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Posted to c-user@axis.apache.org by Samisa Abeysinghe <sa...@yahoo.com> on 2004/09/27 07:08:23 UTC
Re: [Choices for ant build server side] C++ Web Services article
Hi Adrian,
Out of the 3 choices for the server side, Stand-alone Axis C Server is almost non functional,
with the simple Axis server code not being updated in line with the changes to the parser
abstraction etc. So that is out.
When selecting between Apache 1.3 vs. Apache 2, why not go for the latest?
Thanks,
Samisa...
--- Adrian Dick <ad...@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Currently, the ANT script we'll be using for the daily builds compile the
> Client, Transport and XML Parser libraries. Obviously, we'll also need to
> build the server-side libraries.
>
> Looking at the documentation it appears there are 3 choices for the
> server-side:
> Stand-alone Axis C Server
> Web server module for Apache 1.3
> Web server module for Apache 2
>
> Does anyone have an opinion on an obvious first choice for the daily
> builds? What do most people use out there?
>
> Adrian
>
> _______________________________________
> Adrian Dick (adrian.dick@uk.ibm.com)
>
>
>
> John
> Hawkins/UK/IBM@IB
> MGB To
> "Apache AXIS C Developers List"
> 24-09-04 13:01 <ax...@ws.apache.org>,
> axis-c-user@ws.apache.org
> cc
> Please respond to
> "Apache AXIS C Subject
> User List" Re: C++ Web Services article
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I put this up yesterday, Is everyone OK about the choice of parser &
> transport ? Initially It will be Samisas new transport until Libwww gets
> working.
>
>
> John Hawkins
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cool :-)
>
> We are in the middle of getting regular daily builds put up to the apache
> site. If you can tell us how to create the mage then we can get it put into
> this process :-) If it's easy then we can put it into the ANT scripts for
> you.
>
> Our builds are going to be built on
>
> Xerces as parser,
> libwww as transport (providing Samisa can make it work in next few wks)
>
>
> Intel redhat Adv svr 3.0 (linux kernel 2.4.21-15.EL smp)Update 2 - gcc
>
> 3.2.3 (built into OS)
>
> Win 2003 - MS Dev 6.0
>
> AIX 5.1 ML4 - Visual Age C++ 6.0.0.0
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> John Hawkins
>
>
>
>
>
> Valentine
> Kouznetsov
> <vkuznet@yahoo.co To
> m> Apache AXIS C Developers List
> <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> 23/09/2004 15:07 cc
>
> Subject
> Please respond to Re: C++ Web Services article
> "Apache AXIS C
> Developers List"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If project is interesting of making Linux RPMs.
> I had quite a bit of experience with them and can
> try to make one(s) for axis.
>
> If so, I need to know some preferences:
> - which XML parser to use (I used expat on Linux)
> - which release to use (so far I used 1.2 with success
> for my business project)
> - which Linux distribution to use (so far I used
> Fedora and RedHat 9), I can make spec files which can
> be tested and used for other Linux distributions
>
> One comment though, I can start only in mid-October,
> since I'm going to conference and need to prepare a
> lot of stuff.
>
> Valentin.
>
> --- John Hawkins <HA...@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hmm, well I see what they're saying ->
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Apache Axis is rudimentary and lacks good
> > documentation. CRN Test Center
> > engineers used the installation procedures posted
> > on Apache's Web site but
> > found the instructions to be mostly incorrect. With
> > no way to get the
> > product up and running easily, customers and
> > solution providers are forced
> > to compile the product from scratch, which is a
> > time-consuming process and
> > would require changes to hard-coded references in
> > header and configuration
> > files. This product is not recommended for VARs
> > that have not worked with
> > open-source products.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We do need to improve the distribution of the code
> > such that people can
> > pick up a pre-compiiled build. We are looking into
> > this ! There are also
> > documentation issues outlined here - I can't argue
> > with them - we do need
> > to keep the docs up to date !
> >
> > I think the most striking thing about this is that
> > Axis C comes out as a
> > developers product. We need to think more about the
> > fact that most people
> > do not want to build code they want to just run with
> > code. Providing clear
> > concise instructions from a users point of view.
> > Developing code with good
> > trace mechanisms, providing code that handles
> > exceptions easily and allows
> > a user to understand how to handle problems - These
> > are things that we need
> > to bear in mind at all times as we go forward. The
> > addition of entry and
> > exit trace in the last few days will help us debug
> > user problems (and thus
>
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Re: [Choices for ant build server side] C++ Web Services article
Posted by Samisa Abeysinghe <sa...@yahoo.com>.
John,
Personally I believe it is worth putting effort into, as this could be used very effectivel
for testing etc. Additionally, it would help more users try out Axis C++ with miimal effort
(without having to install Apache etc.)
The effort:
According to my understanding, the task of updating and getting the Simple Axis server working
requires a developer with some good understanding of the serializer, deserializer, parser layer
and transport layer. Ideally we need someone who has a very good understanding of the apache
modules.
The time required for suc a person would be two full weeks. (If I am to do this, however, I would
need at least three to four weeks, as I have to study the apache modules in more depth)
Thanks,
Samisa...
--- John Hawkins <HA...@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Can we judge whether this is worth putting effort into?
> How many people etc?
>
>
> John Hawkins
>
>
>
>
>
> Samisa Abeysinghe
> <samisa_abeysingh
> e@yahoo.com> To
> Apache AXIS C Developers List
> 27/09/2004 10:48 <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> cc
>
> Please respond to Subject
> "Apache AXIS C Re: [Choices for ant build server
> Developers List" side] C++ Web Services article
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi John,
> Yes people try the Simple Axis Server, but it does not work.
> (It would be good if we could make it work, because that is the only
> way that a user could try
> Axis C++ without installing apache server)
>
> Samisa...
>
> --- John Hawkins <HA...@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Samisa,
> >
> > C server is almost non-functional - pardon?
> > Do you mean it doesn't work? I keep seeing people on the mailing list
> > attempting to use it?
> >
> >
> >
> > John Hawkins
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> > Samisa Abeysinghe
>
> > <samisa_abeysingh
>
> > e@yahoo.com>
> To
> > Apache AXIS C User List
>
> > 27/09/2004 06:08 <ax...@ws.apache.org>,
>
> > axis-c-dev@ws.apache.org
>
> >
> cc
> > Please respond to
>
> > "Apache AXIS C
> Subject
> > Developers List" Re: [Choices for ant build server
>
> > side] C++ Web Services article
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Adrian,
> > Out of the 3 choices for the server side, Stand-alone Axis C Server
> is
> > almost non functional,
> > with the simple Axis server code not being updated in line with the
> changes
> > to the parser
> > abstraction etc. So that is out.
> >
> > When selecting between Apache 1.3 vs. Apache 2, why not go for the
> > latest?
> > Thanks,
> > Samisa...
> >
> > --- Adrian Dick <ad...@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Currently, the ANT script we'll be using for the daily builds compile
> the
> > > Client, Transport and XML Parser libraries. Obviously, we'll also need
> > to
> > > build the server-side libraries.
> > >
> > > Looking at the documentation it appears there are 3 choices for the
> > > server-side:
> > > Stand-alone Axis C Server
> > > Web server module for Apache 1.3
> > > Web server module for Apache 2
> > >
> > > Does anyone have an opinion on an obvious first choice for the daily
> > > builds? What do most people use out there?
> > >
> > > Adrian
> > >
> > > _______________________________________
> > > Adrian Dick (adrian.dick@uk.ibm.com)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > > John
> >
> > > Hawkins/UK/IBM@IB
> >
> > > MGB
> > To
> > > "Apache AXIS C Developers List"
> >
> > > 24-09-04 13:01 <ax...@ws.apache.org>,
> >
> > > axis-c-user@ws.apache.org
> >
> > >
> > cc
> > > Please respond to
> >
> > > "Apache AXIS C
> > Subject
> > > User List" Re: C++ Web Services article
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Folks,
> > >
> > > I put this up yesterday, Is everyone OK about the choice of parser &
> > > transport ? Initially It will be Samisas new transport until Libwww
> gets
> > > working.
> > >
> > >
> > > John Hawkins
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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Re: [Choices for ant build server side] C++ Web Services article
Posted by John Hawkins <HA...@uk.ibm.com>.
Can we judge whether this is worth putting effort into?
How many people etc?
John Hawkins
Samisa Abeysinghe
<samisa_abeysingh
e@yahoo.com> To
Apache AXIS C Developers List
27/09/2004 10:48 <ax...@ws.apache.org>
cc
Please respond to Subject
"Apache AXIS C Re: [Choices for ant build server
Developers List" side] C++ Web Services article
Hi John,
Yes people try the Simple Axis Server, but it does not work.
(It would be good if we could make it work, because that is the only
way that a user could try
Axis C++ without installing apache server)
Samisa...
--- John Hawkins <HA...@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Samisa,
>
> C server is almost non-functional - pardon?
> Do you mean it doesn't work? I keep seeing people on the mailing list
> attempting to use it?
>
>
>
> John Hawkins
>
>
>
>
>
> Samisa Abeysinghe
> <samisa_abeysingh
> e@yahoo.com>
To
> Apache AXIS C User List
> 27/09/2004 06:08 <ax...@ws.apache.org>,
> axis-c-dev@ws.apache.org
>
cc
> Please respond to
> "Apache AXIS C
Subject
> Developers List" Re: [Choices for ant build server
> side] C++ Web Services article
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Adrian,
> Out of the 3 choices for the server side, Stand-alone Axis C Server
is
> almost non functional,
> with the simple Axis server code not being updated in line with the
changes
> to the parser
> abstraction etc. So that is out.
>
> When selecting between Apache 1.3 vs. Apache 2, why not go for the
> latest?
> Thanks,
> Samisa...
>
> --- Adrian Dick <ad...@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Currently, the ANT script we'll be using for the daily builds compile
the
> > Client, Transport and XML Parser libraries. Obviously, we'll also need
> to
> > build the server-side libraries.
> >
> > Looking at the documentation it appears there are 3 choices for the
> > server-side:
> > Stand-alone Axis C Server
> > Web server module for Apache 1.3
> > Web server module for Apache 2
> >
> > Does anyone have an opinion on an obvious first choice for the daily
> > builds? What do most people use out there?
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> > _______________________________________
> > Adrian Dick (adrian.dick@uk.ibm.com)
> >
> >
> >
>
> > John
>
> > Hawkins/UK/IBM@IB
>
> > MGB
> To
> > "Apache AXIS C Developers List"
>
> > 24-09-04 13:01 <ax...@ws.apache.org>,
>
> > axis-c-user@ws.apache.org
>
> >
> cc
> > Please respond to
>
> > "Apache AXIS C
> Subject
> > User List" Re: C++ Web Services article
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I put this up yesterday, Is everyone OK about the choice of parser &
> > transport ? Initially It will be Samisas new transport until Libwww
gets
> > working.
> >
> >
> > John Hawkins
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cool :-)
> >
> > We are in the middle of getting regular daily builds put up to the
apache
> > site. If you can tell us how to create the mage then we can get it put
> into
> > this process :-) If it's easy then we can put it into the ANT scripts
for
> > you.
> >
> > Our builds are going to be built on
> >
> > Xerces as parser,
> > libwww as transport (providing Samisa can make it work in next few
wks)
> >
> >
> > Intel redhat Adv svr 3.0 (linux kernel 2.4.21-15.EL smp)Update 2 -
> gcc
> >
> > 3.2.3 (built into OS)
> >
> > Win 2003 - MS Dev 6.0
> >
> > AIX 5.1 ML4 - Visual Age C++ 6.0.0.0
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Hawkins
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Valentine
> > Kouznetsov
> > <vkuznet@yahoo.co
> To
> > m> Apache AXIS C Developers List
> > <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > 23/09/2004 15:07
> cc
> >
> >
> Subject
> > Please respond to Re: C++ Web Services article
> > "Apache AXIS C
> > Developers List"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If project is interesting of making Linux RPMs.
> > I had quite a bit of experience with them and can
> > try to make one(s) for axis.
> >
>
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Re: [Choices for ant build server side] C++ Web Services article
Posted by Samisa Abeysinghe <sa...@yahoo.com>.
Hi John,
Yes people try the Simple Axis Server, but it does not work.
(It would be good if we could make it work, because that is the only way that a user could try
Axis C++ without installing apache server)
Samisa...
--- John Hawkins <HA...@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Samisa,
>
> C server is almost non-functional - pardon?
> Do you mean it doesn't work? I keep seeing people on the mailing list
> attempting to use it?
>
>
>
> John Hawkins
>
>
>
>
>
> Samisa Abeysinghe
> <samisa_abeysingh
> e@yahoo.com> To
> Apache AXIS C User List
> 27/09/2004 06:08 <ax...@ws.apache.org>,
> axis-c-dev@ws.apache.org
> cc
> Please respond to
> "Apache AXIS C Subject
> Developers List" Re: [Choices for ant build server
> side] C++ Web Services article
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Adrian,
> Out of the 3 choices for the server side, Stand-alone Axis C Server is
> almost non functional,
> with the simple Axis server code not being updated in line with the changes
> to the parser
> abstraction etc. So that is out.
>
> When selecting between Apache 1.3 vs. Apache 2, why not go for the
> latest?
> Thanks,
> Samisa...
>
> --- Adrian Dick <ad...@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Currently, the ANT script we'll be using for the daily builds compile the
> > Client, Transport and XML Parser libraries. Obviously, we'll also need
> to
> > build the server-side libraries.
> >
> > Looking at the documentation it appears there are 3 choices for the
> > server-side:
> > Stand-alone Axis C Server
> > Web server module for Apache 1.3
> > Web server module for Apache 2
> >
> > Does anyone have an opinion on an obvious first choice for the daily
> > builds? What do most people use out there?
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> > _______________________________________
> > Adrian Dick (adrian.dick@uk.ibm.com)
> >
> >
> >
>
> > John
>
> > Hawkins/UK/IBM@IB
>
> > MGB
> To
> > "Apache AXIS C Developers List"
>
> > 24-09-04 13:01 <ax...@ws.apache.org>,
>
> > axis-c-user@ws.apache.org
>
> >
> cc
> > Please respond to
>
> > "Apache AXIS C
> Subject
> > User List" Re: C++ Web Services article
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I put this up yesterday, Is everyone OK about the choice of parser &
> > transport ? Initially It will be Samisas new transport until Libwww gets
> > working.
> >
> >
> > John Hawkins
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cool :-)
> >
> > We are in the middle of getting regular daily builds put up to the apache
> > site. If you can tell us how to create the mage then we can get it put
> into
> > this process :-) If it's easy then we can put it into the ANT scripts for
> > you.
> >
> > Our builds are going to be built on
> >
> > Xerces as parser,
> > libwww as transport (providing Samisa can make it work in next few wks)
> >
> >
> > Intel redhat Adv svr 3.0 (linux kernel 2.4.21-15.EL smp)Update 2 -
> gcc
> >
> > 3.2.3 (built into OS)
> >
> > Win 2003 - MS Dev 6.0
> >
> > AIX 5.1 ML4 - Visual Age C++ 6.0.0.0
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Hawkins
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Valentine
> > Kouznetsov
> > <vkuznet@yahoo.co
> To
> > m> Apache AXIS C Developers List
> > <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > 23/09/2004 15:07
> cc
> >
> >
> Subject
> > Please respond to Re: C++ Web Services article
> > "Apache AXIS C
> > Developers List"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If project is interesting of making Linux RPMs.
> > I had quite a bit of experience with them and can
> > try to make one(s) for axis.
> >
>
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Re: [Choices for ant build server side] C++ Web Services article
Posted by John Hawkins <HA...@uk.ibm.com>.
Hi Samisa,
C server is almost non-functional - pardon?
Do you mean it doesn't work? I keep seeing people on the mailing list
attempting to use it?
John Hawkins
Samisa Abeysinghe
<samisa_abeysingh
e@yahoo.com> To
Apache AXIS C User List
27/09/2004 06:08 <ax...@ws.apache.org>,
axis-c-dev@ws.apache.org
cc
Please respond to
"Apache AXIS C Subject
Developers List" Re: [Choices for ant build server
side] C++ Web Services article
Hi Adrian,
Out of the 3 choices for the server side, Stand-alone Axis C Server is
almost non functional,
with the simple Axis server code not being updated in line with the changes
to the parser
abstraction etc. So that is out.
When selecting between Apache 1.3 vs. Apache 2, why not go for the
latest?
Thanks,
Samisa...
--- Adrian Dick <ad...@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Currently, the ANT script we'll be using for the daily builds compile the
> Client, Transport and XML Parser libraries. Obviously, we'll also need
to
> build the server-side libraries.
>
> Looking at the documentation it appears there are 3 choices for the
> server-side:
> Stand-alone Axis C Server
> Web server module for Apache 1.3
> Web server module for Apache 2
>
> Does anyone have an opinion on an obvious first choice for the daily
> builds? What do most people use out there?
>
> Adrian
>
> _______________________________________
> Adrian Dick (adrian.dick@uk.ibm.com)
>
>
>
> John
> Hawkins/UK/IBM@IB
> MGB
To
> "Apache AXIS C Developers List"
> 24-09-04 13:01 <ax...@ws.apache.org>,
> axis-c-user@ws.apache.org
>
cc
> Please respond to
> "Apache AXIS C
Subject
> User List" Re: C++ Web Services article
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I put this up yesterday, Is everyone OK about the choice of parser &
> transport ? Initially It will be Samisas new transport until Libwww gets
> working.
>
>
> John Hawkins
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cool :-)
>
> We are in the middle of getting regular daily builds put up to the apache
> site. If you can tell us how to create the mage then we can get it put
into
> this process :-) If it's easy then we can put it into the ANT scripts for
> you.
>
> Our builds are going to be built on
>
> Xerces as parser,
> libwww as transport (providing Samisa can make it work in next few wks)
>
>
> Intel redhat Adv svr 3.0 (linux kernel 2.4.21-15.EL smp)Update 2 -
gcc
>
> 3.2.3 (built into OS)
>
> Win 2003 - MS Dev 6.0
>
> AIX 5.1 ML4 - Visual Age C++ 6.0.0.0
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> John Hawkins
>
>
>
>
>
> Valentine
> Kouznetsov
> <vkuznet@yahoo.co
To
> m> Apache AXIS C Developers List
> <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> 23/09/2004 15:07
cc
>
>
Subject
> Please respond to Re: C++ Web Services article
> "Apache AXIS C
> Developers List"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If project is interesting of making Linux RPMs.
> I had quite a bit of experience with them and can
> try to make one(s) for axis.
>
> If so, I need to know some preferences:
> - which XML parser to use (I used expat on Linux)
> - which release to use (so far I used 1.2 with success
> for my business project)
> - which Linux distribution to use (so far I used
> Fedora and RedHat 9), I can make spec files which can
> be tested and used for other Linux distributions
>
> One comment though, I can start only in mid-October,
> since I'm going to conference and need to prepare a
> lot of stuff.
>
> Valentin.
>
> --- John Hawkins <HA...@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hmm, well I see what they're saying ->
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Apache Axis is rudimentary and lacks good
> > documentation. CRN Test Center
> > engineers used the installation procedures posted
> > on Apache's Web site but
> > found the instructions to be mostly incorrect. With
> > no way to get the
> > product up and running easily, customers and
> > solution providers are forced
> > to compile the product from scratch, which is a
> > time-consuming process and
> > would require changes to hard-coded references in
> > header and configuration
> > files. This product is not recommended for VARs
> > that have not worked with
> > open-source products.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We do need to improve the distribution of the code
> > such that people can
> > pick up a pre-compiiled build. We are looking into
> > this ! There are also
> > documentation issues outlined here - I can't argue
> > with them - we do need
> > to keep the docs up to date !
> >
> > I think the most striking thing about this is that
> > Axis C comes out as a
> > developers product. We need to think more about the
> > fact that most people
> > do not want to build code they want to just run with
> > code. Providing clear
> > concise instructions from a users point of view.
> > Developing code with good
> > trace mechanisms, providing code that handles
> > exceptions easily and allows
> > a user to understand how to handle problems - These
> > are things that we need
> > to bear in mind at all times as we go forward. The
> > addition of entry and
> > exit trace in the last few days will help us debug
> > user problems (and thus
>
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