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How to upgrade from netbeans directly
Hi,
I installed netbeans 12.1 in linux (don't remember if I used the zip file
or the shell installer).
Anyway I see 12.2 is available but running "Check for updates" in my
Netbeans says that there are no updates available.
Is that supposed to work or do we need to re-install it every time a new
release comes in?
Thanks,
Marco
Re: How to upgrade from netbeans directly
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Also you can go with the Snap package, which will be auto upgrade
whenever the new version is out. When that come out the new version will
report on startup if you would like to import the previous workspace
which is usually safe. If I'll have some time, I'd experiment with Snaps
auto directory update feature, that would theorethicly allow seamless
version upgrades, what would mean you open the IDE 12.2 one day and the
other day it would open with the same settings but 12.3... (Probably
that would happen first as 13.0 though)
On 12/21/20 3:53 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Yes, you need to reinstall whenever a new release is released.
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 10:41 AM Marco Ambu <marco.ambu@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I installed netbeans 12.1 in linux (don't remember if I used the
> zip file or the shell installer).
> Anyway I see 12.2 is available but running "Check for updates" in
> my Netbeans says that there are no updates available.
> Is that supposed to work or do we need to re-install it every time
> a new release comes in?
>
> Thanks,
> Marco
>
Re: How to upgrade from netbeans directly
Posted by Alan <ne...@ambitonline.com>.
On 2020-12-21 16:40, Thomas Kellerer wrote:
>
> Alan schrieb am 21.12.2020 um 20:58:
>> More confusing and more than a bit of a pain. At the risk of being
>> repetitive, does anyone know how to persist window layouts and open
>> files across version updates? Even a clue would help.
>
> I typically just keep the old user dir. I only delete the "var/cache"
> directory before I run the new version
>
> I only wipe it completely, if something doesn't work with the new
> version.
>
> The window layout is stored in the user dir's sub-directory
> config/Windows2Local
> Copying that from the old user dir into the new one should work.
>
Thanks, Thomas. I will give that a try.
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Re: How to upgrade from netbeans directly
Posted by Thomas Kellerer <sh...@gmx.net>.
Alan schrieb am 21.12.2020 um 20:58:
> More confusing and more than a bit of a pain. At the risk of being
> repetitive, does anyone know how to persist window layouts and open
> files across version updates? Even a clue would help.
I typically just keep the old user dir. I only delete the "var/cache" directory before I run the new version
I only wipe it completely, if something doesn't work with the new version.
The window layout is stored in the user dir's sub-directory config/Windows2Local
Copying that from the old user dir into the new one should work.
Thomas
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Re: How to upgrade from netbeans directly
Posted by Alan <ne...@ambitonline.com>.
More confusing and more than a bit of a pain. At the risk of being
repetitive, does anyone know how to persist window layouts and open
files across version updates? Even a clue would help.
Although I'm sure it's idiosyncratic, I've got a really specific setup
typically with 50-100 open files and four editor windows (roughly one
for each layer in the so-called "full stack" development process).
Recreating context after every upgrade is a tedious process. Yet it
seems ridiculous to move to LTS releases just for this reason.
On 2020-12-21 14:22, Neil C Smith wrote:
>
> NetBeans has always behaved like this. But the rapid release schedule
> does seem to have made it more confusing.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
Re: How to upgrade from netbeans directly
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 18:47, Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think a better option would be to have a button to upgrade to a new release when one is available.
Definitely a message or button here would be good, and needs to be LTS aware ...
There is already a notification for new releases - "just" need to
marry the things up. If / when I get some free time I keep meaning to
have a look at this one, if no-one gets there beforehand ..
> It should also be explicitly clear that the existing Upgrade means “Upgrade Plugins” not upgrade the IDE in general.
This isn't strictly true - it also covers general IDE patches.
NetBeans has always behaved like this. But the rapid release schedule
does seem to have made it more confusing.
Best wishes,
Neil
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Re: How to upgrade from netbeans directly
Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
And it has always caused this confusion...
We should at least add a message in the update UI to tell users to do a manual download and install to move to a new release.
I think a better option would be to have a button to upgrade to a new release when one is available.
It should also be explicitly clear that the existing Upgrade means “Upgrade Plugins” not upgrade the IDE in general.
Scott
> On Dec 21, 2020, at 7:39 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> It has always been a requirement to install NetBeans from scratch when you want to use a new release.
>
> Gj
>
>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 13:30, Marco Ambu <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks, is that because of the way I installed netbeans or any other reason like linux or the Check for updates feature is not working and not meant to? In that case is it going to be removed?
>>
>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 11:53, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes, you need to reinstall whenever a new release is released.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 10:41 AM Marco Ambu <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I installed netbeans 12.1 in linux (don't remember if I used the zip file or the shell installer).
>>>> Anyway I see 12.2 is available but running "Check for updates" in my Netbeans says that there are no updates available.
>>>> Is that supposed to work or do we need to re-install it every time a new release comes in?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Marco
>>>>
>>
>>
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>> E-mail: marco.ambu@gmail.com
>> LinkedIn profile: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcoambu>
Re: How to upgrade from netbeans directly
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
It has always been a requirement to install NetBeans from scratch when you
want to use a new release.
Gj
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 13:30, Marco Ambu <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, is that because of the way I installed netbeans or any other
> reason like linux or the Check for updates feature is not working and not
> meant to? In that case is it going to be removed?
>
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 11:53, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, you need to reinstall whenever a new release is released.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 10:41 AM Marco Ambu <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I installed netbeans 12.1 in linux (don't remember if I used the zip
>>> file or the shell installer).
>>> Anyway I see 12.2 is available but running "Check for updates" in my
>>> Netbeans says that there are no updates available.
>>> Is that supposed to work or do we need to re-install it every time a new
>>> release comes in?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Marco
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Marco Ambu
> E-mail: marco.ambu@gmail.com
> LinkedIn profile: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcoambu>
>
Re: How to upgrade from netbeans directly
Posted by Marco Ambu <ma...@gmail.com>.
Thanks, is that because of the way I installed netbeans or any other reason
like linux or the Check for updates feature is not working and not meant
to? In that case is it going to be removed?
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 11:53, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Yes, you need to reinstall whenever a new release is released.
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 10:41 AM Marco Ambu <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I installed netbeans 12.1 in linux (don't remember if I used the zip
>> file or the shell installer).
>> Anyway I see 12.2 is available but running "Check for updates" in my
>> Netbeans says that there are no updates available.
>> Is that supposed to work or do we need to re-install it every time a new
>> release comes in?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marco
>>
>>
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E-mail: marco.ambu@gmail.com
LinkedIn profile: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcoambu>
Re: How to upgrade from netbeans directly
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Yes, you need to reinstall whenever a new release is released.
Gj
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 10:41 AM Marco Ambu <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I installed netbeans 12.1 in linux (don't remember if I used the zip file
> or the shell installer).
> Anyway I see 12.2 is available but running "Check for updates" in my
> Netbeans says that there are no updates available.
> Is that supposed to work or do we need to re-install it every time a new
> release comes in?
>
> Thanks,
> Marco
>
>