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Posted to users@cloudstack.apache.org by Warren Nicholson <wa...@nfinausa.com> on 2013/04/24 23:12:10 UTC
VM management
Is it permissible to manage VM's using XenCenter
while Cloud-Management is running?
Warren
RE: VM management
Posted by Warren Nicholson <wa...@nfinausa.com>.
It seems obtuse to do it this way.
And the advantage is?
Warren
-----Original Message-----
From: creategui@gmail.com [mailto:creategui@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Carlos
Reategui
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:41 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: VM management
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Warren Nicholson <
warren.nicholson@nfinausa.com> wrote:
> Not what I meant at all.
>
That is exactly what he meant. You can add the xenserver tools iso to
cloudstack (in the templates tab) and attach it to the running VMs you
already have running just like you would from XenCenter.
Re: VM management
Posted by Ahmad Emneina <ae...@gmail.com>.
Xenserver tools and VMware tools are available automatically. When one goes
to attach an iso it should be available as an option without having to add
it manually.
On Apr 24, 2013 5:41 PM, "Carlos Reategui" <ca...@reategui.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Warren Nicholson <
> warren.nicholson@nfinausa.com> wrote:
>
> > Not what I meant at all.
> >
>
> That is exactly what he meant. You can add the xenserver tools iso to
> cloudstack (in the templates tab) and attach it to the running VMs you
> already have running just like you would from XenCenter.
>
Re: VM management
Posted by Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>.
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Warren Nicholson <
warren.nicholson@nfinausa.com> wrote:
> Not what I meant at all.
>
That is exactly what he meant. You can add the xenserver tools iso to
cloudstack (in the templates tab) and attach it to the running VMs you
already have running just like you would from XenCenter.
RE: VM management
Posted by Warren Nicholson <wa...@nfinausa.com>.
OK, thanks Nikita.
How do I configure/troubleshoot the router.
Warren
-----Original Message-----
From: Nikita Gubenko [mailto:nikita.gubenko@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:08 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: VM management
You can install xs tools directly and save them to the template, but all
other things like stop/start/destroy/etc you better do via CS UI
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Warren Nicholson <
warren.nicholson@nfinausa.com> wrote:
> Not what I meant at all.
>
> I'm not talking about OS ISO URL download Image you create the
> instance from.
>
> I talking about xenserver iso tools for optimizing Virtualization on
> the OS after it becomes a running VM, and before you make it a
> template. This needs to be mounted and installed from the DVD in the
> console of the newly created VM. This optimizes the VM to run under
> Xenserver.
>
> As I understand it, OS's typically need their drivers updated to
> Optimize them for virtualization, since they are not running on bare
> metal. Xencenter will highlight each VM created flagging it is not
> optimized for virtualization, and give you a hotlink that takes you
> directly to console with the DVD with the iso tools selected to apply
> them.
>
> This is all per the Xenserver Administration course offered by Citrix.....
>
> Warren
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:32 PM
> To: <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: VM management
>
> Typically you would upload the ISO in CloudStack. Attach it to the VM
> and and then load it via the OS. All of that can be done via
> CloudStack rather than going through Xen.
>
> On Apr 24, 2013, at 3:14 PM, "Warren Nicholson"
> <wa...@nfinausa.com> wrote:
>
> > What about applying the xenserver iso tools for optimization?
> >
> > Warren
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:57 PM
> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: VM management
> >
> > If your going to do work on the local OS and manage it through the
> > console, that's fine. That won't do any harm.
> >
> > It's recommended that any Managing of the VM itself (Start, Stop,
> > Restart, Move, Service Change) be done through the CloudStack UI.
> > CloudStack is the authority of the Cloud and should be responsible
> > for properly allocating resources and managing them. That's the best
> practice.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/24/13 2:47 PM, "Warren Nicholson"
> > <wa...@nfinausa.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Do command line stuff.
> >> Reboot it.
> >> Apply Xen iso tools
> >> Etc.
> >>
> >> What are the limits/rules for this?
> >>
> >> Warren
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:38 PM
> >> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: VM management
> >>
> >> What do you mean by Manging it Warren?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Matt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/24/13 2:12 PM, "Warren Nicholson"
> >> <wa...@nfinausa.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is it permissible to manage VM's using XenCenter
> >>>
> >>> while Cloud-Management is running?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Warren
> >
> >
>
>
--
Best Regards, Nikita Gubenko
Re: VM management
Posted by Nikita Gubenko <ni...@gmail.com>.
You can install xs tools directly and save them to the template, but all
other things like stop/start/destroy/etc you better do via CS UI
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Warren Nicholson <
warren.nicholson@nfinausa.com> wrote:
> Not what I meant at all.
>
> I'm not talking about OS ISO URL download
> Image you create the instance from.
>
> I talking about xenserver iso tools for optimizing
> Virtualization on the OS after it becomes a running
> VM, and before you make it a template. This needs to
> be mounted and installed from the DVD in the console
> of the newly created VM. This optimizes the VM to run
> under Xenserver.
>
> As I understand it, OS's typically need their drivers updated to
> Optimize them for virtualization, since they are not running on
> bare metal. Xencenter will highlight each VM created flagging
> it is not optimized for virtualization, and give you a hotlink that
> takes you directly to console with the DVD with the iso tools
> selected to apply them.
>
> This is all per the Xenserver Administration course offered by Citrix.....
>
> Warren
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:32 PM
> To: <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: VM management
>
> Typically you would upload the ISO in CloudStack. Attach it to the VM and
> and then load it via the OS. All of that can be done via CloudStack rather
> than going through Xen.
>
> On Apr 24, 2013, at 3:14 PM, "Warren Nicholson"
> <wa...@nfinausa.com> wrote:
>
> > What about applying the xenserver iso tools for optimization?
> >
> > Warren
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:57 PM
> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: VM management
> >
> > If your going to do work on the local OS and manage it through the
> > console, that's fine. That won't do any harm.
> >
> > It's recommended that any Managing of the VM itself (Start, Stop,
> > Restart, Move, Service Change) be done through the CloudStack UI.
> > CloudStack is the authority of the Cloud and should be responsible for
> > properly allocating resources and managing them. That's the best
> practice.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/24/13 2:47 PM, "Warren Nicholson" <wa...@nfinausa.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Do command line stuff.
> >> Reboot it.
> >> Apply Xen iso tools
> >> Etc.
> >>
> >> What are the limits/rules for this?
> >>
> >> Warren
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:38 PM
> >> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: VM management
> >>
> >> What do you mean by Manging it Warren?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Matt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/24/13 2:12 PM, "Warren Nicholson"
> >> <wa...@nfinausa.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is it permissible to manage VM's using XenCenter
> >>>
> >>> while Cloud-Management is running?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Warren
> >
> >
>
>
--
Best Regards, Nikita Gubenko
RE: VM management
Posted by Warren Nicholson <wa...@nfinausa.com>.
Not what I meant at all.
I'm not talking about OS ISO URL download
Image you create the instance from.
I talking about xenserver iso tools for optimizing
Virtualization on the OS after it becomes a running
VM, and before you make it a template. This needs to
be mounted and installed from the DVD in the console
of the newly created VM. This optimizes the VM to run
under Xenserver.
As I understand it, OS's typically need their drivers updated to
Optimize them for virtualization, since they are not running on
bare metal. Xencenter will highlight each VM created flagging
it is not optimized for virtualization, and give you a hotlink that
takes you directly to console with the DVD with the iso tools
selected to apply them.
This is all per the Xenserver Administration course offered by Citrix.....
Warren
-----Original Message-----
From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:32 PM
To: <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: VM management
Typically you would upload the ISO in CloudStack. Attach it to the VM and
and then load it via the OS. All of that can be done via CloudStack rather
than going through Xen.
On Apr 24, 2013, at 3:14 PM, "Warren Nicholson"
<wa...@nfinausa.com> wrote:
> What about applying the xenserver iso tools for optimization?
>
> Warren
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:57 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: VM management
>
> If your going to do work on the local OS and manage it through the
> console, that's fine. That won't do any harm.
>
> It's recommended that any Managing of the VM itself (Start, Stop,
> Restart, Move, Service Change) be done through the CloudStack UI.
> CloudStack is the authority of the Cloud and should be responsible for
> properly allocating resources and managing them. That's the best practice.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
>
>
> On 4/24/13 2:47 PM, "Warren Nicholson" <wa...@nfinausa.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Do command line stuff.
>> Reboot it.
>> Apply Xen iso tools
>> Etc.
>>
>> What are the limits/rules for this?
>>
>> Warren
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:38 PM
>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: VM management
>>
>> What do you mean by Manging it Warren?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/24/13 2:12 PM, "Warren Nicholson"
>> <wa...@nfinausa.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it permissible to manage VM's using XenCenter
>>>
>>> while Cloud-Management is running?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Warren
>
>
Re: VM management
Posted by Mathias Mullins <ma...@citrix.com>.
Typically you would upload the ISO in CloudStack. Attach it to the VM and and then load it via the OS. All of that can be done via CloudStack rather than going through Xen.
On Apr 24, 2013, at 3:14 PM, "Warren Nicholson" <wa...@nfinausa.com> wrote:
> What about applying the xenserver iso tools for optimization?
>
> Warren
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:57 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: VM management
>
> If your going to do work on the local OS and manage it through the console,
> that's fine. That won't do any harm.
>
> It's recommended that any Managing of the VM itself (Start, Stop, Restart,
> Move, Service Change) be done through the CloudStack UI. CloudStack is the
> authority of the Cloud and should be responsible for properly allocating
> resources and managing them. That's the best practice.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
>
>
> On 4/24/13 2:47 PM, "Warren Nicholson" <wa...@nfinausa.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Do command line stuff.
>> Reboot it.
>> Apply Xen iso tools
>> Etc.
>>
>> What are the limits/rules for this?
>>
>> Warren
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:38 PM
>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: VM management
>>
>> What do you mean by Manging it Warren?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/24/13 2:12 PM, "Warren Nicholson" <wa...@nfinausa.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it permissible to manage VM's using XenCenter
>>>
>>> while Cloud-Management is running?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Warren
>
>
RE: VM management
Posted by Warren Nicholson <wa...@nfinausa.com>.
What about applying the xenserver iso tools for optimization?
Warren
-----Original Message-----
From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:57 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: VM management
If your going to do work on the local OS and manage it through the console,
that's fine. That won't do any harm.
It's recommended that any Managing of the VM itself (Start, Stop, Restart,
Move, Service Change) be done through the CloudStack UI. CloudStack is the
authority of the Cloud and should be responsible for properly allocating
resources and managing them. That's the best practice.
Thanks,
Matt
On 4/24/13 2:47 PM, "Warren Nicholson" <wa...@nfinausa.com>
wrote:
>Do command line stuff.
>Reboot it.
>Apply Xen iso tools
>Etc.
>
>What are the limits/rules for this?
>
>Warren
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:38 PM
>To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>Subject: Re: VM management
>
>What do you mean by Manging it Warren?
>
>Thanks,
>Matt
>
>
>
>On 4/24/13 2:12 PM, "Warren Nicholson" <wa...@nfinausa.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Is it permissible to manage VM's using XenCenter
>>
>>while Cloud-Management is running?
>>
>>
>>
>>Warren
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: VM management
Posted by Mathias Mullins <ma...@citrix.com>.
If your going to do work on the local OS and manage it through the
console, that's fine. That won't do any harm.
It's recommended that any Managing of the VM itself (Start, Stop, Restart,
Move, Service Change) be done through the CloudStack UI. CloudStack is the
authority of the Cloud and should be responsible for properly allocating
resources and managing them. That's the best practice.
Thanks,
Matt
On 4/24/13 2:47 PM, "Warren Nicholson" <wa...@nfinausa.com>
wrote:
>Do command line stuff.
>Reboot it.
>Apply Xen iso tools
>Etc.
>
>What are the limits/rules for this?
>
>Warren
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:38 PM
>To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>Subject: Re: VM management
>
>What do you mean by Manging it Warren?
>
>Thanks,
>Matt
>
>
>
>On 4/24/13 2:12 PM, "Warren Nicholson" <wa...@nfinausa.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Is it permissible to manage VM's using XenCenter
>>
>>while Cloud-Management is running?
>>
>>
>>
>>Warren
>>
>>
>>
>
>
RE: VM management
Posted by Warren Nicholson <wa...@nfinausa.com>.
Do command line stuff.
Reboot it.
Apply Xen iso tools
Etc.
What are the limits/rules for this?
Warren
-----Original Message-----
From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mullins@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:38 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: VM management
What do you mean by Manging it Warren?
Thanks,
Matt
On 4/24/13 2:12 PM, "Warren Nicholson" <wa...@nfinausa.com>
wrote:
>Is it permissible to manage VM's using XenCenter
>
>while Cloud-Management is running?
>
>
>
>Warren
>
>
>
Re: VM management
Posted by Mathias Mullins <ma...@citrix.com>.
What do you mean by Manging it Warren?
Thanks,
Matt
On 4/24/13 2:12 PM, "Warren Nicholson" <wa...@nfinausa.com>
wrote:
>Is it permissible to manage VM's using XenCenter
>
>while Cloud-Management is running?
>
>
>
>Warren
>
>
>