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[PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
I've drafted the first cut on a WebWork 2 Incubator proposal. There are
a couple areas I was not sure what to put (in bold) and several areas
where the WebWork folks will need to fill in.
As I understand it, once the Struts PMC approves this proposal, we can
submit it to the Incubator PMC for acceptance. If accepted, we will get
a space in the Incubator to import the WebWork 2 code and begin the
incubation process. This process might take several months, however,
that should be ok, because we'll need to remove LGPL dependencies and
that will take some time regardless.
Martin and Ted, I have you both down as co-Champions, but only to help
move the proposal through smoothly. I'm prepared to take on any/all
incubator responsibilities. Of course feel free to remove yourselves if
you'd rather not do it.
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator
Don
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Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
Posted by Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com>.
On 1/22/06, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> I just made some revisions, re-organising a bit, adding in some missing
> bits, etc.
Ditto.
-Ted.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
Posted by rcaix <fo...@opensymphony.com>.
HI All,
I am chandra, using struts for some years now;found Webwork 2 interesting and would like to actively participate.
Chandra
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Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
Posted by Alexandru Popescu <fo...@opensymphony.com>.
Hi everybody!
My name is Alexandru Popescu and I am confirming my interest and will to continue to help.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
Posted by Rainer Hermanns <he...@aixcept.de>.
Hey,
as Rene and Ian did before, I would like to introduce myself as well to
everyone.
I would like to confirm my interest to continue the development as well
and look forward to work together with you.
Regards,
Rainer Hermanns
> I would also like to introduce myself to everyone (except for Ted, that
> I met last week in Boston). Like Rene I would like to confirm my
> interest in continuing development.
>
> Pat - is there a way to reference this thread to the WW forums? I was
> not aware of the wiki entry. The other option might be an invitation to
> the other developers to join the struts dev mailing list (perhaps sent
> from Don, Pat, Jason or Ted?).
>
> Regards,
> Ian Roughley
>
>
> Rene Gielen wrote:
>
>>(First time post)
>>
>>Hey guys,
>>
>>reading this list for some time now (since first merger proposals), I am
>>feeling like adding a first (more or less valuable) comment - see
>> below...
>>
>>Ted Husted schrieb:
>>
>>
>>>On 1/22/06, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Yep, looks good to me. Upon confirmation from a WebWork guy, let's do
>>>>an official vote and move it along.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>:) Hmmm, first, can we deprecate the phrase "WebWork guy"? :)
>>>
>>>Classifying people these way is a bad habit that will only cause
>>>trouble in the long run.
>>>
>>>Second, I believe we need for each and every individual cited on this
>>>proposal to affirm his or her own interest. This is not a merger of
>>>corporations, but of individuals. We need each individual to sign-on
>>>and say "Yes, I will help."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>As one of the cited individuals, I hereby affirm my interest to keep on
>>helping.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Perhaps we should open a companion thread to this one on the WebWork
>>>dev list and ask the listed developers to chime in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I think this is a good idea. Patrick reffered the wiki entry two days
>>ago on the WW users list
>>(http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=15286&messageID=29998#29998),
>>but I guess most of the mentioned WW committers are not aware of it yet.
>>I'm not sure how many are already reading struts devel list...
>>
>>Regards,
>>Rene
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
Posted by Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org>.
Done: http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=15452
Don
Ian Roughley wrote:
> I would also like to introduce myself to everyone (except for Ted, that
> I met last week in Boston). Like Rene I would like to confirm my
> interest in continuing development.
> Pat - is there a way to reference this thread to the WW forums? I was
> not aware of the wiki entry. The other option might be an invitation to
> the other developers to join the struts dev mailing list (perhaps sent
> from Don, Pat, Jason or Ted?).
>
> Regards,
> Ian Roughley
>
>
> Rene Gielen wrote:
>
>> (First time post)
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> reading this list for some time now (since first merger proposals), I am
>> feeling like adding a first (more or less valuable) comment - see
>> below...
>>
>> Ted Husted schrieb:
>>
>>
>>> On 1/22/06, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yep, looks good to me. Upon confirmation from a WebWork guy, let's do
>>>> an official vote and move it along.
>>>>
>>>
>>> :) Hmmm, first, can we deprecate the phrase "WebWork guy"? :)
>>>
>>> Classifying people these way is a bad habit that will only cause
>>> trouble in the long run.
>>>
>>> Second, I believe we need for each and every individual cited on this
>>> proposal to affirm his or her own interest. This is not a merger of
>>> corporations, but of individuals. We need each individual to sign-on
>>> and say "Yes, I will help."
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> As one of the cited individuals, I hereby affirm my interest to keep on
>> helping.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Perhaps we should open a companion thread to this one on the WebWork
>>> dev list and ask the listed developers to chime in.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I think this is a good idea. Patrick reffered the wiki entry two days
>> ago on the WW users list
>> (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=15286&messageID=29998#29998),
>>
>> but I guess most of the mentioned WW committers are not aware of it yet.
>> I'm not sure how many are already reading struts devel list...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rene
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
Posted by Ian Roughley <ia...@fdar.com>.
I would also like to introduce myself to everyone (except for Ted, that
I met last week in Boston). Like Rene I would like to confirm my
interest in continuing development.
Pat - is there a way to reference this thread to the WW forums? I was
not aware of the wiki entry. The other option might be an invitation to
the other developers to join the struts dev mailing list (perhaps sent
from Don, Pat, Jason or Ted?).
Regards,
Ian Roughley
Rene Gielen wrote:
>(First time post)
>
>Hey guys,
>
>reading this list for some time now (since first merger proposals), I am
>feeling like adding a first (more or less valuable) comment - see below...
>
>Ted Husted schrieb:
>
>
>>On 1/22/06, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Yep, looks good to me. Upon confirmation from a WebWork guy, let's do
>>>an official vote and move it along.
>>>
>>>
>>:) Hmmm, first, can we deprecate the phrase "WebWork guy"? :)
>>
>>Classifying people these way is a bad habit that will only cause
>>trouble in the long run.
>>
>>Second, I believe we need for each and every individual cited on this
>>proposal to affirm his or her own interest. This is not a merger of
>>corporations, but of individuals. We need each individual to sign-on
>>and say "Yes, I will help."
>>
>>
>>
>
>As one of the cited individuals, I hereby affirm my interest to keep on
>helping.
>
>
>
>>Perhaps we should open a companion thread to this one on the WebWork
>>dev list and ask the listed developers to chime in.
>>
>>
>>
>
>I think this is a good idea. Patrick reffered the wiki entry two days
>ago on the WW users list
>(http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=15286&messageID=29998#29998),
>but I guess most of the mentioned WW committers are not aware of it yet.
>I'm not sure how many are already reading struts devel list...
>
>Regards,
>Rene
>
>
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
Posted by Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net>.
(First time post)
Hey guys,
reading this list for some time now (since first merger proposals), I am
feeling like adding a first (more or less valuable) comment - see below...
Ted Husted schrieb:
> On 1/22/06, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
>
>>Yep, looks good to me. Upon confirmation from a WebWork guy, let's do
>>an official vote and move it along.
>
>
> :) Hmmm, first, can we deprecate the phrase "WebWork guy"? :)
>
> Classifying people these way is a bad habit that will only cause
> trouble in the long run.
>
> Second, I believe we need for each and every individual cited on this
> proposal to affirm his or her own interest. This is not a merger of
> corporations, but of individuals. We need each individual to sign-on
> and say "Yes, I will help."
>
As one of the cited individuals, I hereby affirm my interest to keep on
helping.
> Perhaps we should open a companion thread to this one on the WebWork
> dev list and ask the listed developers to chime in.
>
I think this is a good idea. Patrick reffered the wiki entry two days
ago on the WW users list
(http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=15286&messageID=29998#29998),
but I guess most of the mentioned WW committers are not aware of it yet.
I'm not sure how many are already reading struts devel list...
Regards,
Rene
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Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
Posted by Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com>.
On 1/22/06, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
> Yep, looks good to me. Upon confirmation from a WebWork guy, let's do
> an official vote and move it along.
:) Hmmm, first, can we deprecate the phrase "WebWork guy"? :)
Classifying people these way is a bad habit that will only cause
trouble in the long run.
Second, I believe we need for each and every individual cited on this
proposal to affirm his or her own interest. This is not a merger of
corporations, but of individuals. We need each individual to sign-on
and say "Yes, I will help."
Perhaps we should open a companion thread to this one on the WebWork
dev list and ask the listed developers to chime in.
-Ted.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
I figured as much.
Thanks.
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From: "Martin Cooper" <ma...@apache.org>
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
On 1/22/06, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> The link to: http://cvs.dev.java.net
>
> returns -- "The dev.java.net domain contains no project named cvs."
I believe that's because you have to be signed up (and signed in) to
java.net even for anonymous CVS access. Weird, I know. I changed the link to
go to the instructions page, which says that.
(I also reverted the mystery committer name.)
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--
> James Mitchell
> Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
> Consulting / Mentoring
> 678.910.8017
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Brown" <mr...@twdata.org>
> To: "Struts Developers List" <de...@struts.apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
>
>
> > Yep, looks good to me. Upon confirmation from a WebWork guy, let's do
> an
> > official vote and move it along.
> >
> > Don
> >
> > Martin Cooper wrote:
> >
> >>On 1/21/06, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>I've drafted the first cut on a WebWork 2 Incubator proposal. There
> are
> >>>a couple areas I was not sure what to put (in bold) and several areas
> >>>where the WebWork folks will need to fill in.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>I just made some revisions, re-organising a bit, adding in some missing
> >>bits, etc. I found a Toby Hede involved with WebWork, and put his name
> in
> >>place of tm_jee, but now that I think about it, that may be a different
> >>Toby... Patrick or Jason, can you help here?
> >>
> >>It would be good if someone (Don?) could re-read and make sure I'm not
> >>lying
> >>anywhere. ;-)
> >>
> >>As I understand it, once the Struts PMC approves this proposal, we can
> >>
> >>>submit it to the Incubator PMC for acceptance. If accepted, we will
> get
> >>>a space in the Incubator to import the WebWork 2 code and begin the
> >>>incubation process. This process might take several months, however,
> >>>that should be ok, because we'll need to remove LGPL dependencies and
> >>>that will take some time regardless.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>Yep.
> >>
> >>Martin and Ted, I have you both down as co-Champions, but only to help
> >>
> >>>move the proposal through smoothly. I'm prepared to take on any/all
> >>>incubator responsibilities. Of course feel free to remove yourselves
> if
> >>>you'd rather not do it.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>I split this out into a Champion (Don!) and Mentors (Don, Ted, me).
> There
> >>only needs to be one champion, but more mentors is a good thing.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Martin Cooper
> >>
> >>
> >>http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator
> >>
> >>>Don
> >>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On 1/22/06, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> The link to: http://cvs.dev.java.net
>
> returns -- "The dev.java.net domain contains no project named cvs."
I believe that's because you have to be signed up (and signed in) to
java.net even for anonymous CVS access. Weird, I know. I changed the link to
go to the instructions page, which says that.
(I also reverted the mystery committer name.)
--
Martin Cooper
--
> James Mitchell
> Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
> Consulting / Mentoring
> 678.910.8017
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Brown" <mr...@twdata.org>
> To: "Struts Developers List" <de...@struts.apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
>
>
> > Yep, looks good to me. Upon confirmation from a WebWork guy, let's do
> an
> > official vote and move it along.
> >
> > Don
> >
> > Martin Cooper wrote:
> >
> >>On 1/21/06, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>I've drafted the first cut on a WebWork 2 Incubator proposal. There
> are
> >>>a couple areas I was not sure what to put (in bold) and several areas
> >>>where the WebWork folks will need to fill in.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>I just made some revisions, re-organising a bit, adding in some missing
> >>bits, etc. I found a Toby Hede involved with WebWork, and put his name
> in
> >>place of tm_jee, but now that I think about it, that may be a different
> >>Toby... Patrick or Jason, can you help here?
> >>
> >>It would be good if someone (Don?) could re-read and make sure I'm not
> >>lying
> >>anywhere. ;-)
> >>
> >>As I understand it, once the Struts PMC approves this proposal, we can
> >>
> >>>submit it to the Incubator PMC for acceptance. If accepted, we will
> get
> >>>a space in the Incubator to import the WebWork 2 code and begin the
> >>>incubation process. This process might take several months, however,
> >>>that should be ok, because we'll need to remove LGPL dependencies and
> >>>that will take some time regardless.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>Yep.
> >>
> >>Martin and Ted, I have you both down as co-Champions, but only to help
> >>
> >>>move the proposal through smoothly. I'm prepared to take on any/all
> >>>incubator responsibilities. Of course feel free to remove yourselves
> if
> >>>you'd rather not do it.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>I split this out into a Champion (Don!) and Mentors (Don, Ted, me).
> There
> >>only needs to be one champion, but more mentors is a good thing.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Martin Cooper
> >>
> >>
> >>http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator
> >>
> >>>Don
> >>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
The link to: http://cvs.dev.java.net
returns -- "The dev.java.net domain contains no project named cvs."
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Brown" <mr...@twdata.org>
To: "Struts Developers List" <de...@struts.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
> Yep, looks good to me. Upon confirmation from a WebWork guy, let's do an
> official vote and move it along.
>
> Don
>
> Martin Cooper wrote:
>
>>On 1/21/06, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
>>
>>>I've drafted the first cut on a WebWork 2 Incubator proposal. There are
>>>a couple areas I was not sure what to put (in bold) and several areas
>>>where the WebWork folks will need to fill in.
>>>
>>
>>
>>I just made some revisions, re-organising a bit, adding in some missing
>>bits, etc. I found a Toby Hede involved with WebWork, and put his name in
>>place of tm_jee, but now that I think about it, that may be a different
>>Toby... Patrick or Jason, can you help here?
>>
>>It would be good if someone (Don?) could re-read and make sure I'm not
>>lying
>>anywhere. ;-)
>>
>>As I understand it, once the Struts PMC approves this proposal, we can
>>
>>>submit it to the Incubator PMC for acceptance. If accepted, we will get
>>>a space in the Incubator to import the WebWork 2 code and begin the
>>>incubation process. This process might take several months, however,
>>>that should be ok, because we'll need to remove LGPL dependencies and
>>>that will take some time regardless.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Yep.
>>
>>Martin and Ted, I have you both down as co-Champions, but only to help
>>
>>>move the proposal through smoothly. I'm prepared to take on any/all
>>>incubator responsibilities. Of course feel free to remove yourselves if
>>>you'd rather not do it.
>>>
>>
>>
>>I split this out into a Champion (Don!) and Mentors (Don, Ted, me). There
>>only needs to be one champion, but more mentors is a good thing.
>>
>>--
>>Martin Cooper
>>
>>
>>http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator
>>
>>>Don
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
Posted by Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org>.
Yep, looks good to me. Upon confirmation from a WebWork guy, let's do
an official vote and move it along.
Don
Martin Cooper wrote:
>On 1/21/06, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
>
>
>>I've drafted the first cut on a WebWork 2 Incubator proposal. There are
>>a couple areas I was not sure what to put (in bold) and several areas
>>where the WebWork folks will need to fill in.
>>
>>
>
>
>I just made some revisions, re-organising a bit, adding in some missing
>bits, etc. I found a Toby Hede involved with WebWork, and put his name in
>place of tm_jee, but now that I think about it, that may be a different
>Toby... Patrick or Jason, can you help here?
>
>It would be good if someone (Don?) could re-read and make sure I'm not lying
>anywhere. ;-)
>
>As I understand it, once the Struts PMC approves this proposal, we can
>
>
>>submit it to the Incubator PMC for acceptance. If accepted, we will get
>>a space in the Incubator to import the WebWork 2 code and begin the
>>incubation process. This process might take several months, however,
>>that should be ok, because we'll need to remove LGPL dependencies and
>>that will take some time regardless.
>>
>>
>
>
>Yep.
>
>Martin and Ted, I have you both down as co-Champions, but only to help
>
>
>>move the proposal through smoothly. I'm prepared to take on any/all
>>incubator responsibilities. Of course feel free to remove yourselves if
>>you'd rather not do it.
>>
>>
>
>
>I split this out into a Champion (Don!) and Mentors (Don, Ted, me). There
>only needs to be one champion, but more mentors is a good thing.
>
>--
>Martin Cooper
>
>
>http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator
>
>
>>Don
>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] WebWork 2 Incubator Proposal
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On 1/21/06, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
>
> I've drafted the first cut on a WebWork 2 Incubator proposal. There are
> a couple areas I was not sure what to put (in bold) and several areas
> where the WebWork folks will need to fill in.
I just made some revisions, re-organising a bit, adding in some missing
bits, etc. I found a Toby Hede involved with WebWork, and put his name in
place of tm_jee, but now that I think about it, that may be a different
Toby... Patrick or Jason, can you help here?
It would be good if someone (Don?) could re-read and make sure I'm not lying
anywhere. ;-)
As I understand it, once the Struts PMC approves this proposal, we can
> submit it to the Incubator PMC for acceptance. If accepted, we will get
> a space in the Incubator to import the WebWork 2 code and begin the
> incubation process. This process might take several months, however,
> that should be ok, because we'll need to remove LGPL dependencies and
> that will take some time regardless.
Yep.
Martin and Ted, I have you both down as co-Champions, but only to help
> move the proposal through smoothly. I'm prepared to take on any/all
> incubator responsibilities. Of course feel free to remove yourselves if
> you'd rather not do it.
I split this out into a Champion (Don!) and Mentors (Don, Ted, me). There
only needs to be one champion, but more mentors is a good thing.
--
Martin Cooper
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator
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