[Issue 128316] New: Confusing extended tip for invoking Navigation toolbar

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https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128316

          Issue ID: 128316
        Issue Type: DEFECT
           Summary: Confusing extended tip for invoking Navigation toolbar
           Product: Writer
           Version: 4.1.7
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: Trivial
          Priority: P5 (lowest)
         Component: ui
          Assignee: issues@openoffice.apache.org
          Reporter: czeslaw.wolanski@gmail.com
  Target Milestone: ---

Created attachment 86875
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Screenshot illustrating issue

AOO Writer - the lower right part of document window, icon between between up
button ("double arrow up") and down button ("double arrow down").

Hover your mouse over that icon.

If "Extended tips" is unchecked (OFF), tip reads: "Navigation". Short and easy
to grasp. Even to me.

However if "Extended tips" is checked (ON), tip reads:
"If you click this icon in the Navigator [...]. So where is THIS icon in
Navigator? Not so easy to grasp. Especially to me.


Please rephrase that part "this icon in the Navigator". In the meantime
(or mean time) I will continue my strenuous quest for THIS icon.

(see attached screenshots, file "Writer")

(Of course this questionable part of extended tip refers to icon I marked in
yellow. One can simply forget that option and use i.a. Navigator icon on
Standard toolbar or <F5> key.

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--- Comment #2 from Czesław Wolański <cz...@gmail.com> ---
(In reply to Matthias Seidel from comment #1)
> Confirmed with AOO 4.1.7 on Ubuntu.
> 
> I would simplify the string:
> "If you click on this icon, a toolbar will appear [...]"

Thanks for accurate solution. Couldn't find anything reasonable on my own for I
am little distracted by playing all the time with "travelling tip". :‑)

Yet I devised something. You may take a look at screenshots I placed in the
attached file "AOO Help". It seems that the entry is missing an icon that would
explain expression "if you click this icon [...]". I added "improved" version
with icon in question. But that is just a makeshift. Your solution is better.

Thanks again.

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Matthias Seidel <ms...@apache.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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                 CC|                            |mseidel@apache.org
     Ever confirmed|0                           |1
             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |CONFIRMED
   Target Milestone|---                         |4.2.0
                 OS|Windows 7                   |All

--- Comment #1 from Matthias Seidel <ms...@apache.org> ---
Confirmed with AOO 4.1.7 on Ubuntu.

I would simplify the string:
"If you click on this icon, a toolbar will appear [...]"

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--- Comment #3 from Czesław Wolański <cz...@gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 86876
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AOO Help excerpt

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Matthias Seidel <ms...@apache.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|CONFIRMED                   |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #4 from Matthias Seidel <ms...@apache.org> ---
Fixed in trunk with:
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/e57ededc559ca995479e0610789bd990738d0364

Cherry-Picked for AOO42X.

Changes will become visible in en-US immediately. All other languages need a
complete "translation cycle"

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