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Posted to dev@hc.apache.org by Andrea Selva <se...@gmail.com> on 2009/05/21 17:18:18 UTC
[HttpCore]Real http server with httpcore
Hi ML,
is there anybody that use http-core as base for a http server?
I think the design of this libraries is very good, and create yet another
http server could be good idea for two reason:
1) http-core is small, and a http server for embedded devices could take
this advantage in size and performance. Android use http-core but doesn't
have a usefull small web server.
2) the good device of http-core could influence also the design of this
small server.
With http-server i means a Servlet implementation.
Andrea Selva
Re: [HttpCore]Real http server with httpcore
Posted by Jörg Bullmann <jb...@heilancoo.net>.
Oops. Hadn't read the thread when I replied earlier -- sorry!
J.
On 22 May 2009, at 9:00 AM, Andrea Selva wrote:
> Hi Oleg,
> thankyou for the complete reply. I'm searching for a fun project,
> and i
> thinked of yet another http server. You gave me very good pointers
> on this
> to experiment with http-core. If i find something interesting i will
> inform
> you.
> Many thanks Oleg
> Andrea Selva
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski
> <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Andrea Selva wrote:
>>
>>> Hi ML,
>>> is there anybody that use http-core as base for a http server?
>>>
>>
>> Welcome back, Andrea!
>>
>> There are several projects I am aware of that use HttpCore for
>> their server
>> side HTTP transport implementations: Apache Axis2, Apache Synapse,
>> Limewire,
>> Little Portal Gizmo. I am sure there must be others. While Synapse
>> and
>> Limewire represent some sort of a hybrid solution, Simple HTTP
>> server of
>> Axis2 and Little Portal Gizmo can be considered 'real' HTTP
>> servers. By
>> hybrid I mean something that serves as both client and server.
>>
>> I do believe HttpCore makes a reasonable platform for custom hybrid
>> solutions like HTTP proxies, gateways, peer-to-peer agents. At the
>> same time
>> I doubt it can (should) compete with Jetty in the lightweight HTTP
>> server
>> space.
>>
>>
>> I think the design of this libraries is very good, and create yet
>> another
>>> http server could be good idea for two reason:
>>> 1) http-core is small, and a http server for embedded devices
>>> could take
>>> this advantage in size and performance. Android use http-core but
>>> doesn't
>>> have a usefull small web server.
>>> 2) the good device of http-core could influence also the design of
>>> this
>>> small server.
>>>
>>> With http-server i means a Servlet implementation.
>>>
>>>
>> Development of a servlet engine would be a _major_ undertaking. I
>> am also
>> not entirely convinced this world needs another servlet engine
>> given how
>> good Tomcat and Jetty are. However I am sure it would a fun project
>> to work
>> on. Another possibility for a fun project _might_ be taking a popular
>> framework such as Wicket or Tapestry 5 that abstract away servlet
>> API behind
>> a higher level API and trying to put it on top of HttpCore.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Oleg
>>
>>
>> Andrea Selva
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [HttpCore]Real http server with httpcore
Posted by Andrea Selva <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi Oleg,
thankyou for the complete reply. I'm searching for a fun project, and i
thinked of yet another http server. You gave me very good pointers on this
to experiment with http-core. If i find something interesting i will inform
you.
Many thanks Oleg
Andrea Selva
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> Andrea Selva wrote:
>
>> Hi ML,
>> is there anybody that use http-core as base for a http server?
>>
>
> Welcome back, Andrea!
>
> There are several projects I am aware of that use HttpCore for their server
> side HTTP transport implementations: Apache Axis2, Apache Synapse, Limewire,
> Little Portal Gizmo. I am sure there must be others. While Synapse and
> Limewire represent some sort of a hybrid solution, Simple HTTP server of
> Axis2 and Little Portal Gizmo can be considered 'real' HTTP servers. By
> hybrid I mean something that serves as both client and server.
>
> I do believe HttpCore makes a reasonable platform for custom hybrid
> solutions like HTTP proxies, gateways, peer-to-peer agents. At the same time
> I doubt it can (should) compete with Jetty in the lightweight HTTP server
> space.
>
>
> I think the design of this libraries is very good, and create yet another
>> http server could be good idea for two reason:
>> 1) http-core is small, and a http server for embedded devices could take
>> this advantage in size and performance. Android use http-core but doesn't
>> have a usefull small web server.
>> 2) the good device of http-core could influence also the design of this
>> small server.
>>
>> With http-server i means a Servlet implementation.
>>
>>
> Development of a servlet engine would be a _major_ undertaking. I am also
> not entirely convinced this world needs another servlet engine given how
> good Tomcat and Jetty are. However I am sure it would a fun project to work
> on. Another possibility for a fun project _might_ be taking a popular
> framework such as Wicket or Tapestry 5 that abstract away servlet API behind
> a higher level API and trying to put it on top of HttpCore.
>
> Cheers
>
> Oleg
>
>
> Andrea Selva
>>
>>
>
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Re: [HttpCore]Real http server with httpcore
Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
Andrea Selva wrote:
> Hi ML,
> is there anybody that use http-core as base for a http server?
Welcome back, Andrea!
There are several projects I am aware of that use HttpCore for their
server side HTTP transport implementations: Apache Axis2, Apache
Synapse, Limewire, Little Portal Gizmo. I am sure there must be others.
While Synapse and Limewire represent some sort of a hybrid solution,
Simple HTTP server of Axis2 and Little Portal Gizmo can be considered
'real' HTTP servers. By hybrid I mean something that serves as both
client and server.
I do believe HttpCore makes a reasonable platform for custom hybrid
solutions like HTTP proxies, gateways, peer-to-peer agents. At the same
time I doubt it can (should) compete with Jetty in the lightweight HTTP
server space.
> I think the design of this libraries is very good, and create yet another
> http server could be good idea for two reason:
> 1) http-core is small, and a http server for embedded devices could take
> this advantage in size and performance. Android use http-core but doesn't
> have a usefull small web server.
> 2) the good device of http-core could influence also the design of this
> small server.
>
> With http-server i means a Servlet implementation.
>
Development of a servlet engine would be a _major_ undertaking. I am
also not entirely convinced this world needs another servlet engine
given how good Tomcat and Jetty are. However I am sure it would a fun
project to work on. Another possibility for a fun project _might_ be
taking a popular framework such as Wicket or Tapestry 5 that abstract
away servlet API behind a higher level API and trying to put it on top
of HttpCore.
Cheers
Oleg
> Andrea Selva
>
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Re: [HttpCore]Real http server with httpcore
Posted by Jörg Bullmann <jb...@heilancoo.net>.
<http://lipog.sourceforge.net> is a little server. It is does not
implement Servlets, but takes a different approach instead.
Cheers,
Joerg
On 21 May 2009, at 5:18 PM, Andrea Selva wrote:
> Hi ML,
> is there anybody that use http-core as base for a http server?
> I think the design of this libraries is very good, and create yet
> another
> http server could be good idea for two reason:
> 1) http-core is small, and a http server for embedded devices could
> take
> this advantage in size and performance. Android use http-core but
> doesn't
> have a usefull small web server.
> 2) the good device of http-core could influence also the design of
> this
> small server.
>
> With http-server i means a Servlet implementation.
>
> Andrea Selva
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