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Postmortem 12.3

Hi all,

Now that every 12.3 bit and byte (knock on wood) is out the door, let's
immediately list all our grips and gripes.

What worked well, what didn't, what should be repeated, and what should
never be done again?

Thanks,

Gj

Re: Postmortem 12.3

Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
I just wish to thank you all for stewarding this release!

It was good to see the docs updated! I wish I was more around the 
project this time, but I'm pleased to see the machinery working even 
just from the sideline.

I'd put more pressure on PR reviews and get them in, as they are piling 
up again.

Yeah, Maybe I shall do my part in the review, and stop creating 
work-in-progress PR's and stop complaining...

On 3/11/21 5:18 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Now that every 12.3 bit and byte (knock on wood) is out the door, let's
> immediately list all our grips and gripes.
>
> What worked well, what didn't, what should be repeated, and what should
> never be done again?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>

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Re: Postmortem 12.3

Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 at 12:18, Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
> I hope the multi RMs mode reduce a bit the amount of work per RM :D
>
> Refreshing the docs for release was also nice.

On #1, possibly only a little, because of #2. :-)  And still a bit to
do there, but it needed doing.  I've always thought having two people
is a good idea anyway ..

> I may be wrong but it's the first VC1 to go to release it seems that it was most smooth.

We've had a few more, including one of yours I believe!

Best wishes,

Neil

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RE: Postmortem 12.3

Posted by Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org>.
I hope the multi RMs mode reduce a bit the amount of work per RM :D

Refreshing the docs for release was also nice.

I may be wrong but it's the first VC1 to go to release it seems that it was most smooth.

Eric
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De : Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID> 
Envoyé : jeudi 11 mars 2021 17:49
À : dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
Objet : Re: Postmortem 12.3

I think one thing we should do that I don't remember doing is keeping close track of issues such as this one:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-4950

If I had been aware of it, I would have pushed for that fix to have gone into nb-javac, maybe that can still be done, i.e., we produce a new nb-javac?

We need to keep track at least of these issues marked critical -- and we need to try to involve those reporters in assisting in verifying that fixes for the issues they report work for them.

Gj

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 3:05 PM Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 13:18, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > Now that every 12.3 bit and byte (knock on wood) is out the door, 
> > let's immediately list all our grips and gripes.
> >
> > What worked well, what didn't, what should be repeated, and what 
> > should never be done again?
>
> All I'm going to say is that having two release managers has worked 
> really well.  And thanks for that! :-)
>
> Of course, with two there's always the potential for a little overlap.
> ;-)  I was just planning a similar-ish thread to discuss "making 
> quarterly releases more manageable".  I have a few thoughts / 
> proposals there, some of which the two of us talked about already, but 
> I'll leave that for a few days as this discussion might change that 
> one.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: Postmortem 12.3

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
I think one thing we should do that I don't remember doing is keeping close
track of issues such as this one:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-4950

If I had been aware of it, I would have pushed for that fix to have gone
into nb-javac, maybe that can still be done, i.e., we produce a new
nb-javac?

We need to keep track at least of these issues marked critical -- and we
need to try to involve those reporters in assisting in verifying that fixes
for the issues they report work for them.

Gj

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 3:05 PM Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 13:18, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > Now that every 12.3 bit and byte (knock on wood) is out the door, let's
> > immediately list all our grips and gripes.
> >
> > What worked well, what didn't, what should be repeated, and what should
> > never be done again?
>
> All I'm going to say is that having two release managers has worked
> really well.  And thanks for that! :-)
>
> Of course, with two there's always the potential for a little overlap.
> ;-)  I was just planning a similar-ish thread to discuss "making
> quarterly releases more manageable".  I have a few thoughts /
> proposals there, some of which the two of us talked about already, but
> I'll leave that for a few days as this discussion might change that
> one.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: Postmortem 12.3

Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 13:18, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> Now that every 12.3 bit and byte (knock on wood) is out the door, let's
> immediately list all our grips and gripes.
>
> What worked well, what didn't, what should be repeated, and what should
> never be done again?

All I'm going to say is that having two release managers has worked
really well.  And thanks for that! :-)

Of course, with two there's always the potential for a little overlap.
;-)  I was just planning a similar-ish thread to discuss "making
quarterly releases more manageable".  I have a few thoughts /
proposals there, some of which the two of us talked about already, but
I'll leave that for a few days as this discussion might change that
one.

Best wishes,

Neil

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