You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to photark-dev@incubator.apache.org by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com> on 2010/05/15 08:32:09 UTC
Hangout at irc#photark?
Hi Guys,
With development at photark gaining more momentum, anyone interested to have
like weekly meetup at irc#photark channel to just talk about stuff?
Especially with GSOC projects, it would be awesome to have discussions about
progress and/or issues.
Shouldnt be a formal or required thingy, just people interested in photark
devs to chat and exchange ideas.
Thanks,
- Henry
Re: Hangout at irc#photark?
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
Hi Luciano,
I am in CA too, almost 2am =)
Yes, I agree design discussion and decision has to be in dev list.
I was just thinking using IRC for progress discussion or quick questions
like you mentioned.
- Henry
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > With development at photark gaining more momentum, anyone interested to
> have
> > like weekly meetup at irc#photark channel to just talk about stuff?
> >
> > Especially with GSOC projects, it would be awesome to have discussions
> about
> > progress and/or issues.
> >
> > Shouldnt be a formal or required thingy, just people interested in
> photark
> > devs to chat and exchange ideas.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > - Henry
> >
>
> I'm usually there #photark at irf.freenode.net during the day.... but
> I'll try to be there on other times as well :) it's 2:00 AM right now
> here at CA.
>
> BTW, IRC is fine for progress discussion/issues, etc, but design
> discussion and decisions should always be made on the dev list.
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
Re: Hangout at irc#photark?
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> With development at photark gaining more momentum, anyone interested to have
> like weekly meetup at irc#photark channel to just talk about stuff?
>
> Especially with GSOC projects, it would be awesome to have discussions about
> progress and/or issues.
>
> Shouldnt be a formal or required thingy, just people interested in photark
> devs to chat and exchange ideas.
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Henry
>
I'm usually there #photark at irf.freenode.net during the day.... but
I'll try to be there on other times as well :) it's 2:00 AM right now
here at CA.
BTW, IRC is fine for progress discussion/issues, etc, but design
discussion and decisions should always be made on the dev list.
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Hangout at irc#photark?
Posted by Suhothayan Sriskandarajah <su...@gmail.com>.
On 16 May 2010 23:00, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > You can send a summary report with *suggested* decisions, but as has
> > been said already, all decisions are made on the mailing list. That's
> > not open for negotiation.
> >
> > --
> > Martin Cooper
>
> I'd really prefer that not even suggested decisions to be made on IRC,
> and that we use it really for hanging out purposes and more community
> bound stuff and other minor stuff... and as Martin said, decisions are
> made on the mailing list and that is not open for negotiation.
>
>
> +1
decisions are made on the mailing list.
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende <http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
Re: Hangout at irc#photark?
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> You can send a summary report with *suggested* decisions, but as has
> been said already, all decisions are made on the mailing list. That's
> not open for negotiation.
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
I'd really prefer that not even suggested decisions to be made on IRC,
and that we use it really for hanging out purposes and more community
bound stuff and other minor stuff... and as Martin said, decisions are
made on the mailing list and that is not open for negotiation.
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Hangout at irc#photark?
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Suhothayan Sriskandarajah
<su...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 May 2010 08:47, Gav... <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Henry Saputra [mailto:henry.saputra@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:08 AM
>> > To: photark-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: Hangout at irc#photark?
>> >
>> > Hi Martin,
>> >
>> > You are right, maybe it was not such super idea after all =(
>> >
>> > But like Luciano said, all decisions and discussions still should
>> > happen in
>> > the dev list.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your insight about this.
>> >
>>
>> I think it is fine to go ahead, I know of at least 20+ ASF projects using
>> IRC.
>>
>> The most important thing is decisions are to made on the dev list.
>>
>> I am in the AU timezone, and can still participate on IRC with those in the
>> US
>> and EU with no fear of being left out.
>>
>> Gav...
>>
>> +1 for IRC
>
> I think this will drastically improve the efficiency of decision-making in
> photark.
>
> At least this will be better than private chat :)
>
> Its true someone might not be able to participate in conversations because
> of the time difference,
> but we can overcome this by sending a summery report with the decisions made
> during the conversation.
You can send a summary report with *suggested* decisions, but as has
been said already, all decisions are made on the mailing list. That's
not open for negotiation.
--
Martin Cooper
> If someone has any doubts he also can always read through the IRC archive
> and send his reply to the summery report mail with +1 , -1 etc or can call
> another meeting for further discussions.
>
> Suho
>
>
>> - Henry
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Henry Saputra
>> > <he...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > Hi Guys,
>> > > >
>> > > > With development at photark gaining more momentum, anyone
>> > interested to
>> > > have
>> > > > like weekly meetup at irc#photark channel to just talk about stuff?
>> > >
>> > > I don't object strongly, but I do think it needs to be managed
>> > > carefully. That's especially true when several of the core people are
>> > > in the same time zone, because that leads to the possibility that
>> > > other people, in other time zones, are excluded from the "club",
>> > > perhaps inadvertently.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Martin Cooper
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Especially with GSOC projects, it would be awesome to have
>> > discussions
>> > > about
>> > > > progress and/or issues.
>> > > >
>> > > > Shouldnt be a formal or required thingy, just people interested in
>> > > photark
>> > > > devs to chat and exchange ideas.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > >
>> > > > - Henry
>> > > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Hangout at irc#photark?
Posted by Suhothayan Sriskandarajah <su...@gmail.com>.
On 16 May 2010 08:47, Gav... <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Henry Saputra [mailto:henry.saputra@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:08 AM
> > To: photark-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Hangout at irc#photark?
> >
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > You are right, maybe it was not such super idea after all =(
> >
> > But like Luciano said, all decisions and discussions still should
> > happen in
> > the dev list.
> >
> > Thanks for your insight about this.
> >
>
> I think it is fine to go ahead, I know of at least 20+ ASF projects using
> IRC.
>
> The most important thing is decisions are to made on the dev list.
>
> I am in the AU timezone, and can still participate on IRC with those in the
> US
> and EU with no fear of being left out.
>
> Gav...
>
> +1 for IRC
I think this will drastically improve the efficiency of decision-making in
photark.
At least this will be better than private chat :)
Its true someone might not be able to participate in conversations because
of the time difference,
but we can overcome this by sending a summery report with the decisions made
during the conversation.
If someone has any doubts he also can always read through the IRC archive
and send his reply to the summery report mail with +1 , -1 etc or can call
another meeting for further discussions.
Suho
> - Henry
> >
> > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Henry Saputra
> > <he...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > >
> > > > With development at photark gaining more momentum, anyone
> > interested to
> > > have
> > > > like weekly meetup at irc#photark channel to just talk about stuff?
> > >
> > > I don't object strongly, but I do think it needs to be managed
> > > carefully. That's especially true when several of the core people are
> > > in the same time zone, because that leads to the possibility that
> > > other people, in other time zones, are excluded from the "club",
> > > perhaps inadvertently.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Martin Cooper
> > >
> > >
> > > > Especially with GSOC projects, it would be awesome to have
> > discussions
> > > about
> > > > progress and/or issues.
> > > >
> > > > Shouldnt be a formal or required thingy, just people interested in
> > > photark
> > > > devs to chat and exchange ideas.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > - Henry
> > > >
> > >
>
>
>
RE: Hangout at irc#photark?
Posted by "Gav..." <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henry Saputra [mailto:henry.saputra@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:08 AM
> To: photark-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Hangout at irc#photark?
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> You are right, maybe it was not such super idea after all =(
>
> But like Luciano said, all decisions and discussions still should
> happen in
> the dev list.
>
> Thanks for your insight about this.
>
I think it is fine to go ahead, I know of at least 20+ ASF projects using IRC.
The most important thing is decisions are to made on the dev list.
I am in the AU timezone, and can still participate on IRC with those in the US
and EU with no fear of being left out.
Gav...
> - Henry
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Henry Saputra
> <he...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > With development at photark gaining more momentum, anyone
> interested to
> > have
> > > like weekly meetup at irc#photark channel to just talk about stuff?
> >
> > I don't object strongly, but I do think it needs to be managed
> > carefully. That's especially true when several of the core people are
> > in the same time zone, because that leads to the possibility that
> > other people, in other time zones, are excluded from the "club",
> > perhaps inadvertently.
> >
> > --
> > Martin Cooper
> >
> >
> > > Especially with GSOC projects, it would be awesome to have
> discussions
> > about
> > > progress and/or issues.
> > >
> > > Shouldnt be a formal or required thingy, just people interested in
> > photark
> > > devs to chat and exchange ideas.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > - Henry
> > >
> >
Re: Hangout at irc#photark?
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
Hi Martin,
You are right, maybe it was not such super idea after all =(
But like Luciano said, all decisions and discussions still should happen in
the dev list.
Thanks for your insight about this.
- Henry
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > With development at photark gaining more momentum, anyone interested to
> have
> > like weekly meetup at irc#photark channel to just talk about stuff?
>
> I don't object strongly, but I do think it needs to be managed
> carefully. That's especially true when several of the core people are
> in the same time zone, because that leads to the possibility that
> other people, in other time zones, are excluded from the "club",
> perhaps inadvertently.
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
>
> > Especially with GSOC projects, it would be awesome to have discussions
> about
> > progress and/or issues.
> >
> > Shouldnt be a formal or required thingy, just people interested in
> photark
> > devs to chat and exchange ideas.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > - Henry
> >
>
Re: Hangout at irc#photark?
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> With development at photark gaining more momentum, anyone interested to have
> like weekly meetup at irc#photark channel to just talk about stuff?
I don't object strongly, but I do think it needs to be managed
carefully. That's especially true when several of the core people are
in the same time zone, because that leads to the possibility that
other people, in other time zones, are excluded from the "club",
perhaps inadvertently.
--
Martin Cooper
> Especially with GSOC projects, it would be awesome to have discussions about
> progress and/or issues.
>
> Shouldnt be a formal or required thingy, just people interested in photark
> devs to chat and exchange ideas.
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Henry
>