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xml compressing
Hello cocoon-users,
I have some questions about C2 environment...
1. Anybody know can i compress my xml/xsp files before publishing it?
I want to use on-the-fly compressing util like XMLPPM
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmlppm). It's can decrease my traffic.
Need i change MIME-type of HTTP header for automatic decompression
files on the user? May be i must change files extension?
2. Can I precompile my site into .class files for speed increasing?
How to do this?
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Re: xml compressing
Posted by Sergio Carvalho <se...@acm.org>.
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:33:33 +0700, Andrew Answer wrote:
From: Andrew Answer <cr...@mail.ru>
--
> Hello cocoon-users,
>
> I have some questions about C2 environment...
>
> 1. Anybody know can i compress my xml/xsp files before publishing it?
> I want to use on-the-fly compressing util like XMLPPM
> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmlppm). It's can decrease my traffic.
> Need i change MIME-type of HTTP header for automatic decompression
> files on the user? May be i must change files extension?
I guess the best way would be with mod_gzip on apache. It does work if you
access cocoon with mod_proxy. I have never used it with mod_jk, so I can't tell
if it works.
>
> 2. Can I precompile my site into .class files for speed increasing?
> How to do this?
You probably don't need this. The compilation occurs only on the first access,
and never again.
Sérgio
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Re: Re[2]: xml compressing
Posted by java guru <ja...@yahoo.co.in>.
Hi.,
I feel sorry for leading this topic off cocoon2.
Hope this will not extend beyond limits.
But., yes, you can do that all., but as already
someone explains you cannot bundle all html+images
together in this method..and this kinda stuff is
highly client dependent...
--- Xavier Renard <xa...@ulg.ac.be> wrote: >
> Excuse-me if this is out-of-subject or if I didn't
> properly understood the
> previous message but the server-side can send a
> compressed page with a
> Response-Header "content-Encoding gzip" for exemple
> indicating that the page
> is compressed and the client-side "can" decompressed
> the page to display it.
>
> But to do that, it is better for the server
> (or a servlet) to check the request-header to see
> if it contains the
> header "accept-encoding gzip" indicating that the
> browser is able to
> decompressed the page with gzip
>
> Xavier
>
> > Hi.,
> > Again., let me if i have mistaken anything..
> >
> > 1. When we are talking about html over internet,
> we
> > are talking about a server and a client(browser).
> You
> > only have control over your side(server side). You
> > DONT have control over the client(browser side).
> >
> > 2. Any compression mechanisms(let it be simple zip
> or
> > xmlppm) requires two operations, compression and
> > de-compression. And when you dont have control
> over
> > the client side., how can u make sure the
> compressed
> > docs gets de-compressed on the other end?. This
> can
> > only be possible when u have control over both
> sides
> > like B2B environment.
> >
> > 3. Now., again., if the kinda technique exists
> that
> > enable one to compress whole html along with
> images
> > and tables and send them over the network and
> there
> > exists a client browser which understands all
> these
> > and de-compress the stuff., then the internet
> world
> > would have been somewhere else...No kidding..
> >
> > Again., correct me if wrong...
> >
> >
> > --- Andrew Answer <cr...@mail.ru> wrote: > Hi
> java
> > guru,
> > >
> > > Tuesday, September 04, 2001, 8:38:37 PM, you
> wrote:
> > >
> > > jg> Hi.,
> > > jg> Correct me if wrong..
> > >
> > > jg> 1. The xml/xsl rendering in c2 is done on
> server
> > > side.
> > > jg> Then why do u need to compress the xml/xsp
> for
> > > client
> > > jg> side?
> > >
> > > But if i even generate HTML-files, anyway i
> want/can
> > > compress theirs for
> > > decrease traffic. I want to learn this aspect,
> > > because it's can be
> > > very useful for me. My pages are too large (many
> > > tables, texts,
> > > images - 50-60k)
> > >
> > > jg> 2. The xsp/sitemap precompilation process is
> in
> > > jg> faq..Please try it...
> > >
> > > Well, i do this.
> > >
> > > jg> --- Andrew Answer <cr...@mail.ru> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello
> > > jg> cocoon-users,
> > > >>
> > > >> I have some questions about C2
> environment...
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Anybody know can i compress my xml/xsp
> files
> > > >> before publishing it?
> > > >> I want to use on-the-fly compressing util
> like
> > > >> XMLPPM
> > > >> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmlppm).
> It's
> > > >> can decrease my traffic.
> > > >> Need i change MIME-type of HTTP header for
> > > >> automatic decompression
> > > >> files on the user? May be i must change
> files
> > > >> extension?
> > > >>
> > > >> 2. Can I precompile my site into .class
> files
> > > for
> > > >> speed increasing?
> > > >> How to do this?
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Best regards,
> > > >> Andrew
> > > >> mailto:creator0@mail.ru
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > jg>
> > >
> >
>
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> > > jg> srini
> > >
> > > jg>
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Re: Re[2]: xml compressing
Posted by Xavier Renard <xa...@ulg.ac.be>.
Excuse-me if this is out-of-subject or if I didn't properly understood the
previous message but the server-side can send a compressed page with a
Response-Header "content-Encoding gzip" for exemple indicating that the page
is compressed and the client-side "can" decompressed the page to display it.
But to do that, it is better for the server
(or a servlet) to check the request-header to see if it contains the
header "accept-encoding gzip" indicating that the browser is able to
decompressed the page with gzip
Xavier
> Hi.,
> Again., let me if i have mistaken anything..
>
> 1. When we are talking about html over internet, we
> are talking about a server and a client(browser). You
> only have control over your side(server side). You
> DONT have control over the client(browser side).
>
> 2. Any compression mechanisms(let it be simple zip or
> xmlppm) requires two operations, compression and
> de-compression. And when you dont have control over
> the client side., how can u make sure the compressed
> docs gets de-compressed on the other end?. This can
> only be possible when u have control over both sides
> like B2B environment.
>
> 3. Now., again., if the kinda technique exists that
> enable one to compress whole html along with images
> and tables and send them over the network and there
> exists a client browser which understands all these
> and de-compress the stuff., then the internet world
> would have been somewhere else...No kidding..
>
> Again., correct me if wrong...
>
>
> --- Andrew Answer <cr...@mail.ru> wrote: > Hi java
> guru,
> >
> > Tuesday, September 04, 2001, 8:38:37 PM, you wrote:
> >
> > jg> Hi.,
> > jg> Correct me if wrong..
> >
> > jg> 1. The xml/xsl rendering in c2 is done on server
> > side.
> > jg> Then why do u need to compress the xml/xsp for
> > client
> > jg> side?
> >
> > But if i even generate HTML-files, anyway i want/can
> > compress theirs for
> > decrease traffic. I want to learn this aspect,
> > because it's can be
> > very useful for me. My pages are too large (many
> > tables, texts,
> > images - 50-60k)
> >
> > jg> 2. The xsp/sitemap precompilation process is in
> > jg> faq..Please try it...
> >
> > Well, i do this.
> >
> > jg> --- Andrew Answer <cr...@mail.ru> wrote: >
> > Hello
> > jg> cocoon-users,
> > >>
> > >> I have some questions about C2 environment...
> > >>
> > >> 1. Anybody know can i compress my xml/xsp files
> > >> before publishing it?
> > >> I want to use on-the-fly compressing util like
> > >> XMLPPM
> > >> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmlppm). It's
> > >> can decrease my traffic.
> > >> Need i change MIME-type of HTTP header for
> > >> automatic decompression
> > >> files on the user? May be i must change files
> > >> extension?
> > >>
> > >> 2. Can I precompile my site into .class files
> > for
> > >> speed increasing?
> > >> How to do this?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Andrew
> > >> mailto:creator0@mail.ru
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > jg>
> >
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> > jg> srini
> >
> > jg>
> >
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> > Andrew
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> >
> >
> >
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Re: Re[2]: xml compressing
Posted by java guru <ja...@yahoo.co.in>.
Hi.,
Again., let me if i have mistaken anything..
1. When we are talking about html over internet, we
are talking about a server and a client(browser). You
only have control over your side(server side). You
DONT have control over the client(browser side).
2. Any compression mechanisms(let it be simple zip or
xmlppm) requires two operations, compression and
de-compression. And when you dont have control over
the client side., how can u make sure the compressed
docs gets de-compressed on the other end?. This can
only be possible when u have control over both sides
like B2B environment.
3. Now., again., if the kinda technique exists that
enable one to compress whole html along with images
and tables and send them over the network and there
exists a client browser which understands all these
and de-compress the stuff., then the internet world
would have been somewhere else...No kidding..
Again., correct me if wrong...
--- Andrew Answer <cr...@mail.ru> wrote: > Hi java
guru,
>
> Tuesday, September 04, 2001, 8:38:37 PM, you wrote:
>
> jg> Hi.,
> jg> Correct me if wrong..
>
> jg> 1. The xml/xsl rendering in c2 is done on server
> side.
> jg> Then why do u need to compress the xml/xsp for
> client
> jg> side?
>
> But if i even generate HTML-files, anyway i want/can
> compress theirs for
> decrease traffic. I want to learn this aspect,
> because it's can be
> very useful for me. My pages are too large (many
> tables, texts,
> images - 50-60k)
>
> jg> 2. The xsp/sitemap precompilation process is in
> jg> faq..Please try it...
>
> Well, i do this.
>
> jg> --- Andrew Answer <cr...@mail.ru> wrote: >
> Hello
> jg> cocoon-users,
> >>
> >> I have some questions about C2 environment...
> >>
> >> 1. Anybody know can i compress my xml/xsp files
> >> before publishing it?
> >> I want to use on-the-fly compressing util like
> >> XMLPPM
> >> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmlppm). It's
> >> can decrease my traffic.
> >> Need i change MIME-type of HTTP header for
> >> automatic decompression
> >> files on the user? May be i must change files
> >> extension?
> >>
> >> 2. Can I precompile my site into .class files
> for
> >> speed increasing?
> >> How to do this?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >> Andrew
> >> mailto:creator0@mail.ru
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> jg>
>
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> jg> =====
> jg> Thanks and have great day
> jg> srini
>
> jg>
>
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>
>
>
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> Andrew
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>
>
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Re[2]: xml compressing
Posted by Andrew Answer <cr...@mail.ru>.
Hi java guru,
Tuesday, September 04, 2001, 8:38:37 PM, you wrote:
jg> Hi.,
jg> Correct me if wrong..
jg> 1. The xml/xsl rendering in c2 is done on server side.
jg> Then why do u need to compress the xml/xsp for client
jg> side?
But if i even generate HTML-files, anyway i want/can compress theirs for
decrease traffic. I want to learn this aspect, because it's can be
very useful for me. My pages are too large (many tables, texts,
images - 50-60k)
jg> 2. The xsp/sitemap precompilation process is in
jg> faq..Please try it...
Well, i do this.
jg> --- Andrew Answer <cr...@mail.ru> wrote: > Hello
jg> cocoon-users,
>>
>> I have some questions about C2 environment...
>>
>> 1. Anybody know can i compress my xml/xsp files
>> before publishing it?
>> I want to use on-the-fly compressing util like
>> XMLPPM
>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmlppm). It's
>> can decrease my traffic.
>> Need i change MIME-type of HTTP header for
>> automatic decompression
>> files on the user? May be i must change files
>> extension?
>>
>> 2. Can I precompile my site into .class files for
>> speed increasing?
>> How to do this?
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Andrew
>> mailto:creator0@mail.ru
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: xml compressing
Posted by java guru <ja...@yahoo.co.in>.
Hi.,
Correct me if wrong..
1. The xml/xsl rendering in c2 is done on server side.
Then why do u need to compress the xml/xsp for client
side?
2. The xsp/sitemap precompilation process is in
faq..Please try it...
--- Andrew Answer <cr...@mail.ru> wrote: > Hello
cocoon-users,
>
> I have some questions about C2 environment...
>
> 1. Anybody know can i compress my xml/xsp files
> before publishing it?
> I want to use on-the-fly compressing util like
> XMLPPM
> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmlppm). It's
> can decrease my traffic.
> Need i change MIME-type of HTTP header for
> automatic decompression
> files on the user? May be i must change files
> extension?
>
> 2. Can I precompile my site into .class files for
> speed increasing?
> How to do this?
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Andrew
> mailto:creator0@mail.ru
>
>
>
>
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