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[VOTE] 5.0.7 stability rating
<ballot>
[ ] Alpha
[ ] Beta
</ballot>
<plea>Please vote :)</plea>
Add comments if needed.
Note 1: A note will be added about the need to disable smap generation
in case of an error in SmapStratum during compilation. Other than this
problem, I believe this build to be of good overall quality.
Note 2: As far as I am concerned, the 5.0.7 build is feature complete
(ie, my TODO list is empty). I will now focus on tweaks and bugs. This
probably means a slower release cycle (assuming this build is voted as
beta). If anyone has ideas about new items, I think it's safe to say
it's now or never (at least for the initial 5.0.x release) ;-)
Note 3: I'll be away with little internet connectivity between 08/13 and
08/19 (included). If this vote could be wrapped up *before* I leave, it
would be good, but it's not essential, so I don't want people to rush
and skimp on testing (changing 5.0.7 from alpha to beta and making the
necessary announcements should be simple enough).
Note 4: 4.1.x went to beta at 4.1.7 (5.0.x's codebase was then created
from that tag). It is an interesting coincidence. However, I feel like
5.0.x is considerably more stable than 4.1.x was at this stage (not very
surprising, with brand new connectors and rewritten Jasper for 4.1.x),
and I don't feel any particular urge to create a branch either ;-)
Remy
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Re: [VOTE] 5.0.7 stability rating
Posted by Eric Carmichael <ec...@alumni.rice.edu>.
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> Note 2: As far as I am concerned, the 5.0.7 build is feature complete
> (ie, my TODO list is empty).
FYI, there are still a handful of TODOs in the Jasper code, at least one of
which ("need to check for uniqueness of attribute name, variable name-given,
and variable alias") is required for spec compliance.
Eric
Re: [VOTE] 5.0.7 stability rating
Posted by Eric Carmichael <ec...@alumni.rice.edu>.
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> Note 2: As far as I am concerned, the 5.0.7 build is feature complete
> (ie, my TODO list is empty).
FYI, there are still a handful of TODOs in the Jasper code, at least one of
which ("need to check for uniqueness of attribute name, variable name-given,
and variable alias") is required for spec compliance.
Eric
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Re: [VOTE] 5.0.7 stability rating
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Jean-Francois Arcand wrote:
>>> I'm working on (1) ( (2) will be easy once (1) is fixed) now and hope
>>> to have something soon.
>>
>> Great, I don't care about either ;-)
>
> lol :-)
>
>> None of this is critical for a beta (off by default, and it is so slow
>> you'd have to be crazy to enable it).
>
> Then I'm crazy :-) (to debug Xerces yes I'm crazy)
>
>> I don't understand what you mean in (2): TLD validation is not
>> implemented ?
>
> I mean it is impossible to turn on xml validation ( the getter/setter
> are not implemented, so the default value is always set to false ).
> Costin's re-factoring was too agressive :-)
Validation works from the deployer (which is IMO a better place that on
the server side in most cases). Of course, that won't add TLD
validation, if it's indeed missing.
This is not a critical issue as far as I am concerned, however. Given
the timing, I'll push for 5.0.7 to be a first beta unless there's a
showstopper issue. We need as much beta time as we can get to test and
debug Tomcat by the time the spec is released. Otherwise, this is not
going to work, and trying to release a "perfect" beta doesn't make sense
(if you think a first beta is going to be perfect, you can look at the
initial .0 releases of each branch to see how perfect the first stable
releases have been - no matter what, we'll find serious bugs given
enough testers :) ).
Remy
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Re: [VOTE] 5.0.7 stability rating
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Jean-Francois Arcand wrote:
>>> I'm working on (1) ( (2) will be easy once (1) is fixed) now and hope
>>> to have something soon.
>>
>> Great, I don't care about either ;-)
>
> lol :-)
>
>> None of this is critical for a beta (off by default, and it is so slow
>> you'd have to be crazy to enable it).
>
> Then I'm crazy :-) (to debug Xerces yes I'm crazy)
>
>> I don't understand what you mean in (2): TLD validation is not
>> implemented ?
>
> I mean it is impossible to turn on xml validation ( the getter/setter
> are not implemented, so the default value is always set to false ).
> Costin's re-factoring was too agressive :-)
Validation works from the deployer (which is IMO a better place that on
the server side in most cases). Of course, that won't add TLD
validation, if it's indeed missing.
This is not a critical issue as far as I am concerned, however. Given
the timing, I'll push for 5.0.7 to be a first beta unless there's a
showstopper issue. We need as much beta time as we can get to test and
debug Tomcat by the time the spec is released. Otherwise, this is not
going to work, and trying to release a "perfect" beta doesn't make sense
(if you think a first beta is going to be perfect, you can look at the
initial .0 releases of each branch to see how perfect the first stable
releases have been - no matter what, we'll find serious bugs given
enough testers :) ).
Remy
Re: [VOTE] 5.0.7 stability rating
Posted by Jean-Francois Arcand <jf...@apache.org>.
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> Jean-Francois Arcand wrote:
>
>> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>>
>>> <ballot>
>>> [X ] Alpha
>>> [ ] Beta
>>> </ballot>
>>>
>>> <plea>Please vote :)</plea>
>>>
>>> Add comments if needed.
>>
>>
>> (1) Xerces validation doesn't work (seems the way we load the DTD is
>> incorrect, producing the current error...but wait, we never know with
>> Xerces ;-) ). Since validation was by default supported in 4.x, I'm
>> considering this a regression.
>> (2) When ContextConfig was refactored, TldConfig was created but it
>> is impossible right now to turn on xml validation (the implementation
>> is missing). Knowing how it may sometimes create the proper TLD, I
>> think the functionality needs to be implemented.
>>
>> I'm working on (1) ( (2) will be easy once (1) is fixed) now and hope
>> to have something soon.
>
>
> Great, I don't care about either ;-)
lol :-)
> None of this is critical for a beta (off by default, and it is so slow
> you'd have to be crazy to enable it).
Then I'm crazy :-) (to debug Xerces yes I'm crazy)
>
>
> I don't understand what you mean in (2): TLD validation is not
> implemented ?
I mean it is impossible to turn on xml validation ( the getter/setter
are not implemented, so the default value is always set to false ).
Costin's re-factoring was too agressive :-)
-- Jeanfrancois
>
>
> Remy
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] 5.0.7 stability rating
Posted by Jean-Francois Arcand <jf...@apache.org>.
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> Jean-Francois Arcand wrote:
>
>> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>>
>>> <ballot>
>>> [X ] Alpha
>>> [ ] Beta
>>> </ballot>
>>>
>>> <plea>Please vote :)</plea>
>>>
>>> Add comments if needed.
>>
>>
>> (1) Xerces validation doesn't work (seems the way we load the DTD is
>> incorrect, producing the current error...but wait, we never know with
>> Xerces ;-) ). Since validation was by default supported in 4.x, I'm
>> considering this a regression.
>> (2) When ContextConfig was refactored, TldConfig was created but it
>> is impossible right now to turn on xml validation (the implementation
>> is missing). Knowing how it may sometimes create the proper TLD, I
>> think the functionality needs to be implemented.
>>
>> I'm working on (1) ( (2) will be easy once (1) is fixed) now and hope
>> to have something soon.
>
>
> Great, I don't care about either ;-)
lol :-)
> None of this is critical for a beta (off by default, and it is so slow
> you'd have to be crazy to enable it).
Then I'm crazy :-) (to debug Xerces yes I'm crazy)
>
>
> I don't understand what you mean in (2): TLD validation is not
> implemented ?
I mean it is impossible to turn on xml validation ( the getter/setter
are not implemented, so the default value is always set to false ).
Costin's re-factoring was too agressive :-)
-- Jeanfrancois
>
>
> Remy
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] 5.0.7 stability rating
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Jean-Francois Arcand wrote:
> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>
>> <ballot>
>> [X ] Alpha
>> [ ] Beta
>> </ballot>
>>
>> <plea>Please vote :)</plea>
>>
>> Add comments if needed.
>
> (1) Xerces validation doesn't work (seems the way we load the DTD is
> incorrect, producing the current error...but wait, we never know with
> Xerces ;-) ). Since validation was by default supported in 4.x, I'm
> considering this a regression.
> (2) When ContextConfig was refactored, TldConfig was created but it is
> impossible right now to turn on xml validation (the implementation is
> missing). Knowing how it may sometimes create the proper TLD, I think
> the functionality needs to be implemented.
>
> I'm working on (1) ( (2) will be easy once (1) is fixed) now and hope to
> have something soon.
Great, I don't care about either ;-) None of this is critical for a beta
(off by default, and it is so slow you'd have to be crazy to enable it).
I don't understand what you mean in (2): TLD validation is not implemented ?
Remy
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Re: [VOTE] 5.0.7 stability rating
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Jean-Francois Arcand wrote:
> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>
>> <ballot>
>> [X ] Alpha
>> [ ] Beta
>> </ballot>
>>
>> <plea>Please vote :)</plea>
>>
>> Add comments if needed.
>
> (1) Xerces validation doesn't work (seems the way we load the DTD is
> incorrect, producing the current error...but wait, we never know with
> Xerces ;-) ). Since validation was by default supported in 4.x, I'm
> considering this a regression.
> (2) When ContextConfig was refactored, TldConfig was created but it is
> impossible right now to turn on xml validation (the implementation is
> missing). Knowing how it may sometimes create the proper TLD, I think
> the functionality needs to be implemented.
>
> I'm working on (1) ( (2) will be easy once (1) is fixed) now and hope to
> have something soon.
Great, I don't care about either ;-) None of this is critical for a beta
(off by default, and it is so slow you'd have to be crazy to enable it).
I don't understand what you mean in (2): TLD validation is not implemented ?
Remy
Re: [VOTE] 5.0.7 stability rating
Posted by Jean-Francois Arcand <jf...@apache.org>.
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> <ballot>
> [X ] Alpha
> [ ] Beta
> </ballot>
>
> <plea>Please vote :)</plea>
>
> Add comments if needed.
(1) Xerces validation doesn't work (seems the way we load the DTD is
incorrect, producing the current error...but wait, we never know with
Xerces ;-) ). Since validation was by default supported in 4.x, I'm
considering this a regression.
(2) When ContextConfig was refactored, TldConfig was created but it is
impossible right now to turn on xml validation (the implementation is
missing). Knowing how it may sometimes create the proper TLD, I think
the functionality needs to be implemented.
I'm working on (1) ( (2) will be easy once (1) is fixed) now and hope
to have something soon.
-- Jeanfrancois
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Re: [VOTE] 5.0.7 stability rating
Posted by Jean-Francois Arcand <jf...@apache.org>.
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> <ballot>
> [X ] Alpha
> [ ] Beta
> </ballot>
>
> <plea>Please vote :)</plea>
>
> Add comments if needed.
(1) Xerces validation doesn't work (seems the way we load the DTD is
incorrect, producing the current error...but wait, we never know with
Xerces ;-) ). Since validation was by default supported in 4.x, I'm
considering this a regression.
(2) When ContextConfig was refactored, TldConfig was created but it is
impossible right now to turn on xml validation (the implementation is
missing). Knowing how it may sometimes create the proper TLD, I think
the functionality needs to be implemented.
I'm working on (1) ( (2) will be easy once (1) is fixed) now and hope
to have something soon.
-- Jeanfrancois