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Re: Maven unable to deliver adequate Copyright notices?
My request to upload saxon with all notices files added to the orignal
saxon.jar is rejected by maven-upload's gatekeeper.
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MAVENUPLOAD-2652
should I go ahead to rename the group as org.codehaus.mojo? since
dita-maven-plugin uses it exclusively?
Thoughts?
-Dan
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Dan Tran <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> First sorry for the noise,
>
>
> I have create a maven-upload bundle at
> http://people.apache.org/~dantran/maven-upload
>
> The license files are under main saxon.jar/META-INF/notices
>
> any one interested, please review.
>
> The pom in bundle tell you how i create the bundle
>
> Thanks
>
> -Dan
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Of course it is. Don't pay any attention to that drama queen over there.
>>
>> You can either strip down his jar to just saxon proper with a POM with
>> dependencies for the other stuff or you can add the licenses to the jar.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Dan Tran <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jason, so it is legal for us to inject all required license files into
>>> all jars under this bundle
>>>
>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/saxon/files/Saxon-B/9.1.0.7/saxonb9-1-0-7j.zip/download
>>>
>>> order to upload them into central?
>>>
>>> I am really interested on how to get those files for dita-ot's 1.5
>>> dependencies
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@sonatype.com> wrote:
>>> > On 2009-10-20, at 5:16 AM, Svante Schubert wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> I am a Maven fan and stumbled over a this:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=B4EA6C26949B4127960EE2A00780F643%40Sealion&forum_name=saxon-help
>>> >>
>>> >> Is this true? In any case, thought you might want to know...
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > That post is FUD as far as I'm concerned. The problem is easily solved by
>>> > including any necessary license files or notices by including them in the
>>> > JAR. Then amazingly when the user gets the JAR they get the required
>>> > additions. There is inventional called a JAR file. It's pretty useful for
>>> > packaging things up and delivering them.
>>> >
>>> > The guy who posted this also appears to be from the company responsible
>>> for
>>> > producing Saxon, so unless they plan on suing people who use JARs coming
>>> > from Maven then there is no legal problem. They have to enforce it. Would
>>> be
>>> > easy enough to take the JARs they produce and put the notice files in the
>>> > JARs if their build is deficient in doing this.
>>> >
>>> > Maven is completely able to deliver copyright notices. You package them
>>> up
>>> > in the releases you create which is what we do at Apache.
>>> >
>>> >> Keep up the good work!
>>> >> Svante
>>> >>
>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Jason
>>> >
>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> > Jason van Zyl
>>> > Founder, Apache Maven
>>> > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: Maven unable to deliver adequate Copyright notices?
Posted by Dan Tran <da...@gmail.com>.
Lots of people asking for saxon to maven central, how ever, it seems
there is licensing issue that the saxon's author does not seem eager
to advice on pushing it to maven central ( see early mail of the this
thread )
I may end up to change the groupId per Carlos suggestion if I dont see
any advice from saxon group
-Dan
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Brian Fox <br...@infinity.nu> wrote:
> Noone else uses saxon at all? If that's the case then it probably
> won't hurt you to put it as a module of your plugin. Otherwise, if the
> saxon artifacts already there were uploaded by third parties then I
> could support adding this one to the original groupId.
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Dan Tran <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My request to upload saxon with all notices files added to the orignal
>> saxon.jar is rejected by maven-upload's gatekeeper.
>>
>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MAVENUPLOAD-2652
>>
>> should I go ahead to rename the group as org.codehaus.mojo? since
>> dita-maven-plugin uses it exclusively?
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Dan Tran <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> First sorry for the noise,
>>>
>>>
>>> I have create a maven-upload bundle at
>>> http://people.apache.org/~dantran/maven-upload
>>>
>>> The license files are under main saxon.jar/META-INF/notices
>>>
>>> any one interested, please review.
>>>
>>> The pom in bundle tell you how i create the bundle
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Of course it is. Don't pay any attention to that drama queen over there.
>>>>
>>>> You can either strip down his jar to just saxon proper with a POM with
>>>> dependencies for the other stuff or you can add the licenses to the jar.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Dan Tran <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jason, so it is legal for us to inject all required license files into
>>>>> all jars under this bundle
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/saxon/files/Saxon-B/9.1.0.7/saxonb9-1-0-7j.zip/download
>>>>>
>>>>> order to upload them into central?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am really interested on how to get those files for dita-ot's 1.5
>>>>> dependencies
>>>>>
>>>>> -D
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@sonatype.com> wrote:
>>>>> > On 2009-10-20, at 5:16 AM, Svante Schubert wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I am a Maven fan and stumbled over a this:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=B4EA6C26949B4127960EE2A00780F643%40Sealion&forum_name=saxon-help
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Is this true? In any case, thought you might want to know...
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That post is FUD as far as I'm concerned. The problem is easily solved by
>>>>> > including any necessary license files or notices by including them in the
>>>>> > JAR. Then amazingly when the user gets the JAR they get the required
>>>>> > additions. There is inventional called a JAR file. It's pretty useful for
>>>>> > packaging things up and delivering them.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The guy who posted this also appears to be from the company responsible
>>>>> for
>>>>> > producing Saxon, so unless they plan on suing people who use JARs coming
>>>>> > from Maven then there is no legal problem. They have to enforce it. Would
>>>>> be
>>>>> > easy enough to take the JARs they produce and put the notice files in the
>>>>> > JARs if their build is deficient in doing this.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Maven is completely able to deliver copyright notices. You package them
>>>>> up
>>>>> > in the releases you create which is what we do at Apache.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Keep up the good work!
>>>>> >> Svante
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Jason
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> > Jason van Zyl
>>>>> > Founder, Apache Maven
>>>>> > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Maven unable to deliver adequate Copyright notices?
Posted by Brian Fox <br...@infinity.nu>.
Noone else uses saxon at all? If that's the case then it probably
won't hurt you to put it as a module of your plugin. Otherwise, if the
saxon artifacts already there were uploaded by third parties then I
could support adding this one to the original groupId.
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Dan Tran <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My request to upload saxon with all notices files added to the orignal
> saxon.jar is rejected by maven-upload's gatekeeper.
>
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MAVENUPLOAD-2652
>
> should I go ahead to rename the group as org.codehaus.mojo? since
> dita-maven-plugin uses it exclusively?
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -Dan
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Dan Tran <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> First sorry for the noise,
>>
>>
>> I have create a maven-upload bundle at
>> http://people.apache.org/~dantran/maven-upload
>>
>> The license files are under main saxon.jar/META-INF/notices
>>
>> any one interested, please review.
>>
>> The pom in bundle tell you how i create the bundle
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Of course it is. Don't pay any attention to that drama queen over there.
>>>
>>> You can either strip down his jar to just saxon proper with a POM with
>>> dependencies for the other stuff or you can add the licenses to the jar.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Dan Tran <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jason, so it is legal for us to inject all required license files into
>>>> all jars under this bundle
>>>>
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/saxon/files/Saxon-B/9.1.0.7/saxonb9-1-0-7j.zip/download
>>>>
>>>> order to upload them into central?
>>>>
>>>> I am really interested on how to get those files for dita-ot's 1.5
>>>> dependencies
>>>>
>>>> -D
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@sonatype.com> wrote:
>>>> > On 2009-10-20, at 5:16 AM, Svante Schubert wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I am a Maven fan and stumbled over a this:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=B4EA6C26949B4127960EE2A00780F643%40Sealion&forum_name=saxon-help
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Is this true? In any case, thought you might want to know...
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > That post is FUD as far as I'm concerned. The problem is easily solved by
>>>> > including any necessary license files or notices by including them in the
>>>> > JAR. Then amazingly when the user gets the JAR they get the required
>>>> > additions. There is inventional called a JAR file. It's pretty useful for
>>>> > packaging things up and delivering them.
>>>> >
>>>> > The guy who posted this also appears to be from the company responsible
>>>> for
>>>> > producing Saxon, so unless they plan on suing people who use JARs coming
>>>> > from Maven then there is no legal problem. They have to enforce it. Would
>>>> be
>>>> > easy enough to take the JARs they produce and put the notice files in the
>>>> > JARs if their build is deficient in doing this.
>>>> >
>>>> > Maven is completely able to deliver copyright notices. You package them
>>>> up
>>>> > in the releases you create which is what we do at Apache.
>>>> >
>>>> >> Keep up the good work!
>>>> >> Svante
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> >
>>>> > Jason
>>>> >
>>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> > Jason van Zyl
>>>> > Founder, Apache Maven
>>>> > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Maven unable to deliver adequate Copyright notices?
Posted by Wayne Fay <wa...@gmail.com>.
> should I go ahead to rename the group as org.codehaus.mojo? since
> dita-maven-plugin uses it exclusively?
Sounds reasonable to me.
Or perhaps something like net.sourceforge.saxon.modified ? It seems
like this is an artifact others would like to use, and keeping its
location "close" to the "right" one would probably help them find it.
Otherwise, please document this issue in the pom that you put under
o.c.m.
Wayne
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