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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org> on 2006/03/06 00:48:11 UTC
search engine broker
Hi all,
I am working on a new plugin, a search engine broker (output). You can
see it in action on http://www.target-x.de/search.html and
http://www.target-x.de/search-forms.html.
BTW that is my site with a new theme I developed while testing the
dispatcher. :)
Here an extract from the contract description
"search-engines-main will output a select box or a page of installed
search engines. This search definitions are based on firefox search
plugins.
If you use firefox on your local system then you can find the installed
plugins in ~/.mozilla/firefox/{profile}/searchplugins.
Warning: firefox searchplugins are not well formed xml You *cannot* use
~/.mozilla/firefox/{profile}/searchplugins/*.src directly since they are
not valid xml-markup!!!"
Now I wonder whether I can redistribute this refactored search plugins?
E.g.
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!--# Yahoo Search Plug-in for Mozilla
#
# Created by Robert Fernandes <ro...@bovilexics.com>, Matthew A.
McGuigan <webnugget.com>, Rafael Ebron <re...@meer.net>
# Last Edited May 31, 2002
# Last updated August 11, 2004
# converted as forrest search definition by thorsten@apache.org -->
<search
version = "7.1"
name="Yahoo"
description="Yahoo Search"
searchForm="http://www.yahoo.com/r/so"
method="GET"
action="http://search.yahoo.com/search"
category="common"
>
<input name="p" type="text" />
<input name="ei" value="UTF-8"/>
</search>
wdyt?
salu2
--
thorsten
"Together we stand, divided we fall!"
Hey you (Pink Floyd)
Re: search engine broker
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
El lun, 06-03-2006 a las 08:49 +0100, Thorsten Scherler escribió:
...
> > > Here an extract from the contract description
> > > "search-engines-main will output a select box or a page of installed
> > > search engines. This search definitions are based on firefox search
> > > plugins.
> > >
> > > If you use firefox on your local system then you can find the installed
> > > plugins in ~/.mozilla/firefox/{profile}/searchplugins.
> > >
> > > Warning: firefox searchplugins are not well formed xml You *cannot* use
> > > ~/.mozilla/firefox/{profile}/searchplugins/*.src directly since they are
> > > not valid xml-markup!!!"
> > >
> > > Now I wonder whether I can redistribute this refactored search plugins?
> >
> > Is this "search plugin" format an open definition?
>
> What do you mean by open definition?
>
> > We could just add the attributes to the Forrest plugin
> > configuration files and not need to copy the Firefox
> > content.
>
> Well the definition are *based* on the firefox plugins. I extended them
> by a ctegory attribute and before you could use them you have to convert
> them.
>
Actually I started to extend them which can be seen on the google form
on http://www.target-x.de/search-forms.html. Further all the MARC
mailing list search engines I have created from scratch.
The definitions from the searchBroker plugins still work in firefox. :)
Would be nice to talk to the mozilla people and find a xml compatible
search definition format that we can share. :)
Actually I would hope there is something like an open definition for
search engines that would be great. ;) I will do some research.
> I ask because of the comment. Should I keep it?
Actually like said above I am the original author of the marc search
definition and I can first check in the plugin with those definitions
and we can discuss how to do it with the rest.
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<search version="7.1"
name="forrest-dev@marc"
description="marc.theaimsgroup - DejaNews for mailing lists"
method="GET"
action="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/"
searchform="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/"
category="mailing list archive"
>
<input name="l" value="forrest-dev"/>
<input name="w" value="2"/>
<input name="r" value="1"/>
<input name="q" value="b"/>
<input name="s" type="text"/>
</search>
The basic idea is a disassembly of the search string
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&w=2&r=1&q=b&s=mySearchString
salu2
--
thorsten
"Together we stand, divided we fall!"
Hey you (Pink Floyd)
Re: search engine broker
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
El lun, 06-03-2006 a las 10:42 +0100, Cyriaque Dupoirieux escribió:
...
> > Well the definition are *based* on the firefox plugins. I extended them
> > by a ctegory attribute and before you could use them you have to convert
> > them.
> >
> I think that firefox search plugins are just the search URL breakdown
> with the list of parameters, there is not confidentiality in this.
> I will be pleased to use your contract in my own site ! (if you share :-) )
>
:) I am looking forward for your enhancements. ;)
...and yes, you know me (and I have put it on my site) I am all for
sharing. ;
> (The category attribute is a nice idea...)
Yeah, I am now looking on way to limit the engines for certain sites but
even further then in categories. I keen that you (and others) can have a
look.
salu2
--
thorsten
"Together we stand, divided we fall!"
Hey you (Pink Floyd)
Re: search engine broker
Posted by Cyriaque Dupoirieux <Cy...@pcotech.fr>.
Thorsten Scherler a écrit :
> El lun, 06-03-2006 a las 12:27 +1100, David Crossley escribió:
>
>> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am working on a new plugin, a search engine broker (output). You can
>>> see it in action on http://www.target-x.de/search.html and
>>> http://www.target-x.de/search-forms.html.
>>>
>>> BTW that is my site with a new theme I developed while testing the
>>> dispatcher. :)
>>>
>> Congratulations. Excellent. Can you add it to
>> http://forrest.apache.org/live-sites.html#dispatcher
>>
>
> done
> http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=383436&view=rev
>
>
>>> Here an extract from the contract description
>>> "search-engines-main will output a select box or a page of installed
>>> search engines. This search definitions are based on firefox search
>>> plugins.
>>>
>>> If you use firefox on your local system then you can find the installed
>>> plugins in ~/.mozilla/firefox/{profile}/searchplugins.
>>>
>>> Warning: firefox searchplugins are not well formed xml You *cannot* use
>>> ~/.mozilla/firefox/{profile}/searchplugins/*.src directly since they are
>>> not valid xml-markup!!!"
>>>
>>> Now I wonder whether I can redistribute this refactored search plugins?
>>>
>> Is this "search plugin" format an open definition?
>>
>
> What do you mean by open definition?
>
>
>> We could just add the attributes to the Forrest plugin
>> configuration files and not need to copy the Firefox
>> content.
>>
>
> Well the definition are *based* on the firefox plugins. I extended them
> by a ctegory attribute and before you could use them you have to convert
> them.
>
I think that firefox search plugins are just the search URL breakdown
with the list of parameters, there is not confidentiality in this.
I will be pleased to use your contract in my own site ! (if you share :-) )
(The category attribute is a nice idea...)
> I ask because of the comment. Should I keep it?
>
> salu2
>
>
>> -David
>>
>>
>>> E.g.
>>> <?xml version="1.0"?>
>>>
>>> <!--# Yahoo Search Plug-in for Mozilla
>>> #
>>> # Created by Robert Fernandes <ro...@bovilexics.com>, Matthew A.
>>> McGuigan <webnugget.com>, Rafael Ebron <re...@meer.net>
>>> # Last Edited May 31, 2002
>>> # Last updated August 11, 2004
>>> # converted as forrest search definition by thorsten@apache.org -->
>>>
>>> <search
>>> version = "7.1"
>>> name="Yahoo"
>>> description="Yahoo Search"
>>> searchForm="http://www.yahoo.com/r/so"
>>> method="GET"
>>> action="http://search.yahoo.com/search"
>>> category="common"
>>>
>>> <input name="p" type="text" />
>>> <input name="ei" value="UTF-8"/>
>>>
>>>
>>> </search>
>>>
>>> wdyt?
>>>
>>> salu2
>>> --
>>> thorsten
>>>
>>> "Together we stand, divided we fall!"
>>> Hey you (Pink Floyd)
>>>
Re: search engine broker
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
El lun, 06-03-2006 a las 12:27 +1100, David Crossley escribió:
> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am working on a new plugin, a search engine broker (output). You can
> > see it in action on http://www.target-x.de/search.html and
> > http://www.target-x.de/search-forms.html.
> >
> > BTW that is my site with a new theme I developed while testing the
> > dispatcher. :)
>
> Congratulations. Excellent. Can you add it to
> http://forrest.apache.org/live-sites.html#dispatcher
done
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=383436&view=rev
> > Here an extract from the contract description
> > "search-engines-main will output a select box or a page of installed
> > search engines. This search definitions are based on firefox search
> > plugins.
> >
> > If you use firefox on your local system then you can find the installed
> > plugins in ~/.mozilla/firefox/{profile}/searchplugins.
> >
> > Warning: firefox searchplugins are not well formed xml You *cannot* use
> > ~/.mozilla/firefox/{profile}/searchplugins/*.src directly since they are
> > not valid xml-markup!!!"
> >
> > Now I wonder whether I can redistribute this refactored search plugins?
>
> Is this "search plugin" format an open definition?
What do you mean by open definition?
> We could just add the attributes to the Forrest plugin
> configuration files and not need to copy the Firefox
> content.
Well the definition are *based* on the firefox plugins. I extended them
by a ctegory attribute and before you could use them you have to convert
them.
I ask because of the comment. Should I keep it?
salu2
>
> -David
>
> > E.g.
> > <?xml version="1.0"?>
> >
> > <!--# Yahoo Search Plug-in for Mozilla
> > #
> > # Created by Robert Fernandes <ro...@bovilexics.com>, Matthew A.
> > McGuigan <webnugget.com>, Rafael Ebron <re...@meer.net>
> > # Last Edited May 31, 2002
> > # Last updated August 11, 2004
> > # converted as forrest search definition by thorsten@apache.org -->
> >
> > <search
> > version = "7.1"
> > name="Yahoo"
> > description="Yahoo Search"
> > searchForm="http://www.yahoo.com/r/so"
> > method="GET"
> > action="http://search.yahoo.com/search"
> > category="common"
> > >
> >
> > <input name="p" type="text" />
> > <input name="ei" value="UTF-8"/>
> >
> >
> > </search>
> >
> > wdyt?
> >
> > salu2
> > --
> > thorsten
> >
> > "Together we stand, divided we fall!"
> > Hey you (Pink Floyd)
--
thorsten
"Together we stand, divided we fall!"
Hey you (Pink Floyd)
Re: search engine broker
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am working on a new plugin, a search engine broker (output). You can
> see it in action on http://www.target-x.de/search.html and
> http://www.target-x.de/search-forms.html.
>
> BTW that is my site with a new theme I developed while testing the
> dispatcher. :)
Congratulations. Excellent. Can you add it to
http://forrest.apache.org/live-sites.html#dispatcher
> Here an extract from the contract description
> "search-engines-main will output a select box or a page of installed
> search engines. This search definitions are based on firefox search
> plugins.
>
> If you use firefox on your local system then you can find the installed
> plugins in ~/.mozilla/firefox/{profile}/searchplugins.
>
> Warning: firefox searchplugins are not well formed xml You *cannot* use
> ~/.mozilla/firefox/{profile}/searchplugins/*.src directly since they are
> not valid xml-markup!!!"
>
> Now I wonder whether I can redistribute this refactored search plugins?
Is this "search plugin" format an open definition?
We could just add the attributes to the Forrest plugin
configuration files and not need to copy the Firefox
content.
-David
> E.g.
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
>
> <!--# Yahoo Search Plug-in for Mozilla
> #
> # Created by Robert Fernandes <ro...@bovilexics.com>, Matthew A.
> McGuigan <webnugget.com>, Rafael Ebron <re...@meer.net>
> # Last Edited May 31, 2002
> # Last updated August 11, 2004
> # converted as forrest search definition by thorsten@apache.org -->
>
> <search
> version = "7.1"
> name="Yahoo"
> description="Yahoo Search"
> searchForm="http://www.yahoo.com/r/so"
> method="GET"
> action="http://search.yahoo.com/search"
> category="common"
> >
>
> <input name="p" type="text" />
> <input name="ei" value="UTF-8"/>
>
>
> </search>
>
> wdyt?
>
> salu2
> --
> thorsten
>
> "Together we stand, divided we fall!"
> Hey you (Pink Floyd)
Re: search engine broker
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
El mié, 08-03-2006 a las 14:59 +1100, David Crossley escribió:
> Ross Gardler wrote:
> > Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> > >Ross Gardler escribi??:
> > >>
> > >>With respect to reusing the search definition code.
> > >>
> > >>- What license is the definition schema released as?
> > >
> > >Not found any information on it but it seems an internal mozilla format
> > >and mozilla is ASF style license, right?
> >
> > I always thought so, but I have an inkling that it was listed as a
> > non-compatible license in the recent legal FAQ. I've not verified this
> > (possibly incorret) rcollection.
>
> No, MPL is not "ASF-style".
>
> That "FAQ" document is not yet public, though
> Forrest and other committers have had a preliminary
> look at it.
>
> It is coming to the legal-discuss mail list
> soon. ASF committers can join, others can
> read the public mail archives.
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-legal
>
> I am not going to say anything to pre-empt
> that FAQ.
>
> Back to the search definitions ...
>
> Are those definitions actually licensed?
How can I find out?
> You will need to find out if you want to
> propose their direct inclusion in Forrest.
I do *NOT* propose their direct inclusion in Forrest!
original plugin definition:
cat leo.src
#-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------#
# Leo plugin by Kimfella
#
# Translate Eng <->German
#
#
#
# 2003/03/22 convert roy.erez's BabelFish to Leo MK
#
# Known issues: doesn't work with multi-search.
#
# Leo.html included with zip. Contains legal stuff from Leo.org. It
seems to say it is ok to use the #
# ARCHIVE (i.e. the database of german/english?) but not clear
about using the Leo search engine #
# in this manner. They DO provide a Sidebar Tab at
http://www.leo.org/dict/integration_en.html #
#
#
# michael ->AT<- kimballpottery ->DOT<- com
#
# 2005/04/19 modified by Dirk Randhahn
#
# 2005/07/12 edited and cleaned up by Johannes Becker
#
#-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------#
<search version="7.1"
name="Leo Eng<->Ger"
description="Leo-Dictionary - Translate English to German or German
to English"
method="GET"
action="http://dict.leo.org/ende"
searchform="http://dict.leo.org/ende"
>
<input name="search" user>
</search>
<BROWSER
update="http://mycroft.mozdev.org/update.php/id0/leo.src"
updateicon="http://mycroft.mozdev.org/update.php/id0/leo.png"
updateCheckDays="7"
>
My definition:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<search
name="Leo Eng<->Ger"
description="Leo-Dictionary - Translate English to German or German
to English"
method="GET"
action="http://dict.leo.org/ende"
searchform="http://dict.leo.org/ende"
category="dictionary"
>
<input name="search" type="text"/>
</search>
I am using ATM for advanced searching following:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<search
name="Google"
description="Google Search"
method="GET"
action="http://www.google.com/search"
category="common"
>
<input name="q" type="text"/>
<inputnext name="start" factor="10"/>
<inputprev name="start" factor="10"/>
<advanced title="Input encoding">
<input name="ie" value="ISO-8859-1" type="text"/>
</advanced>
<advanced title="Output encoding">
<input name="oe" value="ISO-8859-1" type="text"/>
</advanced>
<advanced title="Dominios">
<select name="as_dt">
<option value="i" selected="selected">Solamente</option>
<option value="e">No</option>
</select>
<input type="text" size="25" value="" name="as_sitesearch"
title="producir resultados del dominio o sitio Web"/>
</advanced>
<advanced title="resultados">
<select name="num">
<option value="10" selected="selected">10 resultados</option>
<option value="20">20 resultados</option>
<option value="30">30 resultados</option>
<option value="50">50 resultados</option>
<option value="100">100 resultados</option>
</select>
</advanced>
</search>
You see that I am not using the exact same scheme like mozilla.
Anyway I still do not really see the need, but is everybody happy if we
rename <search/> to <form/>?
I cannot add the plugins without search definitions, that does not make
sense.
salu2
--
thorsten
"Together we stand, divided we fall!"
Hey you (Pink Floyd)
Re: search engine broker
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Ross Gardler wrote:
> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> >Ross Gardler escribi??:
> >>
> >>With respect to reusing the search definition code.
> >>
> >>- What license is the definition schema released as?
> >
> >Not found any information on it but it seems an internal mozilla format
> >and mozilla is ASF style license, right?
>
> I always thought so, but I have an inkling that it was listed as a
> non-compatible license in the recent legal FAQ. I've not verified this
> (possibly incorret) rcollection.
No, MPL is not "ASF-style".
That "FAQ" document is not yet public, though
Forrest and other committers have had a preliminary
look at it.
It is coming to the legal-discuss mail list
soon. ASF committers can join, others can
read the public mail archives.
http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-legal
I am not going to say anything to pre-empt
that FAQ.
Back to the search definitions ...
Are those definitions actually licensed?
You will need to find out if you want to
propose their direct inclusion in Forrest.
-David
> >>We need to consider
> >>reuse of the schema as well as the individual definitions.
> >
> >I would like to go one step further and try to start a discussion on
> >mozilla to use a xml valid format instead of the halfbaked xml like
> >format that they have right now.
> >
> >To re-use the existing mozilla *out-of-the-box" would be more then
> >awesome. :)
>
> If you ave the time for another list ;-)
>
> Ross
>
Re: search engine broker
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> El mar, 07-03-2006 a las 21:06 +0000, Ross Gardler escribió:
>
>>Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>
>>>El mar, 07-03-2006 a las 09:18 +0000, Ross Gardler escribió:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>El lun, 06-03-2006 a las 10:13 +0000, Ross Gardler escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>I am working on a new plugin, a search engine broker (output). You can
>>>>>>>see it in action on http://www.target-x.de/search.html and
>>>>>>>http://www.target-x.de/search-forms.html.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nice search plugin!
>>
>>...
>>
>>
>>>>I love it. Some feature requests:
>>>>
>>
>>...
>>
>>
>>>>- provide the search results for the last search in the browser page (I
>>>>block popups, maybe an iframe would be the simplest answer)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The problem is that most provider (like google) does not allow this.
>>
>>Even if you provide an iframe, with the full page returned by the search
>>engine?
>
>
> Ah, you mean instead of writing the history in a div to write it in an
> iframe?
It's not the history that is restricted by the search engines is it? I
mean displaying the results from the selected search in an IFrame,
perhaps this is in line with the engines terms. It may not be, but
perhaps worth a look.
Ross
Re: search engine broker
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@wyona.com>.
El mar, 07-03-2006 a las 21:06 +0000, Ross Gardler escribió:
> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> > El mar, 07-03-2006 a las 09:18 +0000, Ross Gardler escribió:
> >
> >>Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> >>
> >>>El lun, 06-03-2006 a las 10:13 +0000, Ross Gardler escribió:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>
> >>>>>I am working on a new plugin, a search engine broker (output). You can
> >>>>>see it in action on http://www.target-x.de/search.html and
> >>>>>http://www.target-x.de/search-forms.html.
> >>>>
> >>>>Nice search plugin!
>
> ...
>
> >>I love it. Some feature requests:
> >>
>
> ...
>
> >>- provide the search results for the last search in the browser page (I
> >>block popups, maybe an iframe would be the simplest answer)
> >>
> >
> >
> > The problem is that most provider (like google) does not allow this.
>
> Even if you provide an iframe, with the full page returned by the search
> engine?
Ah, you mean instead of writing the history in a div to write it in an
iframe?
salu2
--
Thorsten Scherler
COO Spain
Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
http://www.wyona.com http://lenya.apache.org
thorsten.scherler@wyona.com thorsten@apache.org
Re: search engine broker
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> El mar, 07-03-2006 a las 09:18 +0000, Ross Gardler escribió:
>
>>Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>
>>>El lun, 06-03-2006 a las 10:13 +0000, Ross Gardler escribió:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>>>>I am working on a new plugin, a search engine broker (output). You can
>>>>>see it in action on http://www.target-x.de/search.html and
>>>>>http://www.target-x.de/search-forms.html.
>>>>
>>>>Nice search plugin!
...
>>I love it. Some feature requests:
>>
...
>>- provide the search results for the last search in the browser page (I
>>block popups, maybe an iframe would be the simplest answer)
>>
>
>
> The problem is that most provider (like google) does not allow this.
Even if you provide an iframe, with the full page returned by the search
engine?
Ross
Re: search engine broker
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
El mar, 07-03-2006 a las 09:18 +0000, Ross Gardler escribió:
> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> > El lun, 06-03-2006 a las 10:13 +0000, Ross Gardler escribió:
> >
> >>Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi all,
> >>>
> >>>I am working on a new plugin, a search engine broker (output). You can
> >>>see it in action on http://www.target-x.de/search.html and
> >>>http://www.target-x.de/search-forms.html.
> >>>
> >>>BTW that is my site with a new theme I developed while testing the
> >>>dispatcher. :)
> >>
> >>Nice search plugin!
> >
> >
> > :)
> >
> > How do you like the history list?
>
> I love it. Some feature requests:
>
> - persist the history between invocations
will implement it now
>
> - provide the search results for the last search in the browser page (I
> block popups, maybe an iframe would be the simplest answer)
>
The problem is that most provider (like google) does not allow this.
> - allow the setting of "preferred engines" and search them
> simultaneously, i.e. Forrest site, Forrest Dev Arhives, Forrest User
> Archives
jeje, yeah that is the next step. I am planing to write a simple form to
upload new definitions and limit the engines to a subset on structurer
base. The metasearch would be really nice. ;)
> I'm not about to implement any of these, but I would *love* to see them ;-)
;)
> (I can magine using this plugin so no doubt will contribute one day,
> just not right now).
I need to finish the current plugin and add it to the svn that you and
Cyriaque can play with it.
>
> >>With respect to reusing the search definition code.
> >>
> >>- What license is the definition schema released as?
> >
> >
> > Not found any information on it but it seems an internal mozilla format
> > and mozilla is ASF style license, right?
>
> I always thought so, but I have an inkling that it was listed as a
> non-compatible license in the recent legal FAQ. I've not verified this
> (possibly incorret) rcollection.
Anyway, like Cyriaque, yourself and I have said it is dead simple and
the xml schema is actually developed by myself. We should be save to add
it to our rep.
> >>We need to consider
> >>reuse of the schema as well as the individual definitions.
> >
> >
> > I would like to go one step further and try to start a discussion on
> > mozilla to use a xml valid format instead of the halfbaked xml like
> > format that they have right now.
> >
> > To re-use the existing mozilla *out-of-the-box" would be more then
> > awesome. :)
>
> If you ave the time for another list ;-)
lol
yeah that is the bummer. I reckon I am faster to write a mozilla
searchplugin (cleaner) generator. ;)
Thx for the feedback. :)
salu2
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thorsten
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Re: search engine broker
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> El lun, 06-03-2006 a las 10:13 +0000, Ross Gardler escribió:
>
>>Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>I am working on a new plugin, a search engine broker (output). You can
>>>see it in action on http://www.target-x.de/search.html and
>>>http://www.target-x.de/search-forms.html.
>>>
>>>BTW that is my site with a new theme I developed while testing the
>>>dispatcher. :)
>>
>>Nice search plugin!
>
>
> :)
>
> How do you like the history list?
I love it. Some feature requests:
- persist the history between invocations
- provide the search results for the last search in the browser page (I
block popups, maybe an iframe would be the simplest answer)
- allow the setting of "preferred engines" and search them
simultaneously, i.e. Forrest site, Forrest Dev Arhives, Forrest User
Archives
I'm not about to implement any of these, but I would *love* to see them ;-)
(I can magine using this plugin so no doubt will contribute one day,
just not right now).
>>With respect to reusing the search definition code.
>>
>>- What license is the definition schema released as?
>
>
> Not found any information on it but it seems an internal mozilla format
> and mozilla is ASF style license, right?
I always thought so, but I have an inkling that it was listed as a
non-compatible license in the recent legal FAQ. I've not verified this
(possibly incorret) rcollection.
>>We need to consider
>>reuse of the schema as well as the individual definitions.
>
>
> I would like to go one step further and try to start a discussion on
> mozilla to use a xml valid format instead of the halfbaked xml like
> format that they have right now.
>
> To re-use the existing mozilla *out-of-the-box" would be more then
> awesome. :)
If you ave the time for another list ;-)
Ross
Re: search engine broker
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
El lun, 06-03-2006 a las 10:13 +0000, Ross Gardler escribió:
> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am working on a new plugin, a search engine broker (output). You can
> > see it in action on http://www.target-x.de/search.html and
> > http://www.target-x.de/search-forms.html.
> >
> > BTW that is my site with a new theme I developed while testing the
> > dispatcher. :)
>
> Nice search plugin!
:)
How do you like the history list?
I am using the list nearly always (in combination with tab browsing what
I need). ;)
>
> With respect to reusing the search definition code.
>
> - What license is the definition schema released as?
Not found any information on it but it seems an internal mozilla format
and mozilla is ASF style license, right?
> We need to consider
> reuse of the schema as well as the individual definitions.
I would like to go one step further and try to start a discussion on
mozilla to use a xml valid format instead of the halfbaked xml like
format that they have right now.
To re-use the existing mozilla *out-of-the-box" would be more then
awesome. :)
The current solution is alright but I would like to use them directly
without editing. ;)
> - Is it worth sending a mail to the original authors asking them to
> contribute a patch via JIRA? (you could provide them the code and just
> ask them to contribute it to cover the legal aspects of contribution)
>
> - Is it so much trouble t re-write them? As has been observed, they are
> only really a breakdown of the search strings.
Well like said, I re-wrote them all (more or less). At least I needed
valid xml.
To not use the existing mozilla searchplugins - Mycroft project provides
a collection of search plugins (6503 at the last count)
http://mycroft.mozdev.org/ seems kind of silly. ;-)
salu2
--
thorsten
"Together we stand, divided we fall!"
Hey you (Pink Floyd)
Re: search engine broker
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am working on a new plugin, a search engine broker (output). You can
> see it in action on http://www.target-x.de/search.html and
> http://www.target-x.de/search-forms.html.
>
> BTW that is my site with a new theme I developed while testing the
> dispatcher. :)
Nice search plugin!
With respect to reusing the search definition code.
- What license is the definition schema released as? We need to consider
reuse of the schema as well as the individual definitions.
- Is it worth sending a mail to the original authors asking them to
contribute a patch via JIRA? (you could provide them the code and just
ask them to contribute it to cover the legal aspects of contribution)
- Is it so much trouble t re-write them? As has been observed, they are
only really a breakdown of the search strings.
Ross