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Re: [HttpComponents] web site (update 5)
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 17:10 +0000, sebb wrote:
> On 08/03/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > I just updated and redeployed the preview of the HttpComponents web
> > site.
> >
> > Changelog:
> > * Link to the project Wiki per Roland's request
> > * HttpCore module now includes javadoc, source cross-reference and
> > clover (test coverage) reports
> >
> > The preview can be found at the usual location
> > http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/
> >
> > Please let me know if you think something major is still missing.
>
Many thanks, Sebastian
> Not major, but:
>
> How about linking the Netscape Cookie spec to the front page?
>
Done.
>
> ==
>
> A few minor layout issues:
>
> There's an unexpected change of font size on the pages:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/charter.html
> http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/goals.html
>
> It looks like the style for bullet points has a larger font size than
> the main text.
>
Fixed
> The link at the bottom of the page:
> http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/http-core/issue-tracking.html
>
> works, but I'm not sure it helps to have it displayed in full...
>
I cant help it. This is the way Maven end up generating the page.
Please review
http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/
Oleg
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Re: [HttpComponents] web site (update 6)
Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 01:03 +0000, sebb wrote:
> On 08/03/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 21:13 +0000, sebb wrote:
> > > On 08/03/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > A little gremlin seems to have attacked the Cookies page:
> > >
> > > Netscate
> > >
> >
> > Fixed
> >
>
> The gremlin seems to have come back ...
>
It's been really fixed in SVN. I just did not regenerate the site prior
to deploying to the remote repository
> > > > http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/
> > > >
> > >
> > > Generally it looks very good, and seems to be easy to navigate.
> > >
> > > Just noticed something a bit strange - the HttpCore and HttpAsynch
> > > module pages have a left navigation bar with a "Home" link, but the
> > > other modules don't. Not sure whether this is intentional or not.
> > >
> >
> > This is because only HttpCore and HttpAsync are full-fledged Maven
> > sub-projects with a corresponding pom.xml. All others are merely
> > placeholders. They will get populated as we go along.
>
> OK
>
> > > The naming of the modules makes their purpose fairly clear, but it
> > > might still be useful to have a brief summary of each on the front
> > > page.
> > >
> >
> > Done
>
> Looks good.
>
> Just thought - people might want to know if HttpURLConnection is supported.
> Might be worth saying whether that is planned or not.
>
I personally do not intend to work on a HttpURLConnection implementation
based on HttpCore. There are way more important things that require a
lot of work: unfinished Cookie2 spec, HttpNIO, Commons HttpClient 3.1.
If someone came forward and contributed this code I believe we would
happily accept it, though
Oleg
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Re: [HttpComponents] web site (update 6)
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 08/03/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 21:13 +0000, sebb wrote:
> > On 08/03/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > A little gremlin seems to have attacked the Cookies page:
> >
> > Netscate
> >
>
> Fixed
>
The gremlin seems to have come back ...
> > > http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/
> > >
> >
> > Generally it looks very good, and seems to be easy to navigate.
> >
> > Just noticed something a bit strange - the HttpCore and HttpAsynch
> > module pages have a left navigation bar with a "Home" link, but the
> > other modules don't. Not sure whether this is intentional or not.
> >
>
> This is because only HttpCore and HttpAsync are full-fledged Maven
> sub-projects with a corresponding pom.xml. All others are merely
> placeholders. They will get populated as we go along.
OK
> > The naming of the modules makes their purpose fairly clear, but it
> > might still be useful to have a brief summary of each on the front
> > page.
> >
>
> Done
Looks good.
Just thought - people might want to know if HttpURLConnection is supported.
Might be worth saying whether that is planned or not.
S.
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Re: [HttpComponents] web site (update 7)
Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 09:26 +0100, Ortwin Glück wrote:
> I think references to HttpClient 3 should be linked to the current website.
>
There's a reference to Commons HttpClient on the front page now. Please
check it out:
http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/
Oleg
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Re: [HttpComponents] web site (update 6)
Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 09:26 +0100, Ortwin Glück wrote:
> I think references to HttpClient 3 should be linked to the current website.
>
Will do
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Re: [HttpComponents] web site (update 6)
Posted by Ortwin Glück <od...@odi.ch>.
I think references to HttpClient 3 should be linked to the current website.
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Re: [HttpComponents] web site (update 6)
Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 21:13 +0000, sebb wrote:
> On 08/03/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
...
> A little gremlin seems to have attacked the Cookies page:
>
> Netscate
>
Fixed
> > http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/
> >
>
> Generally it looks very good, and seems to be easy to navigate.
>
> Just noticed something a bit strange - the HttpCore and HttpAsynch
> module pages have a left navigation bar with a "Home" link, but the
> other modules don't. Not sure whether this is intentional or not.
>
This is because only HttpCore and HttpAsync are full-fledged Maven
sub-projects with a corresponding pom.xml. All others are merely
placeholders. They will get populated as we go along.
> The naming of the modules makes their purpose fairly clear, but it
> might still be useful to have a brief summary of each on the front
> page.
>
Done
> It would be nice if the Wiki link indicated that it was an "external" link.
>
Done
> Sorry if these seem picky ... feel free to ignore!
>
> S.
>
Please review
http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/
Cheers,
Oleg
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Re: [HttpComponents] web site (update 5)
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 08/03/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 17:10 +0000, sebb wrote:
> > On 08/03/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > I just updated and redeployed the preview of the HttpComponents web
> > > site.
> > >
> > > Changelog:
> > > * Link to the project Wiki per Roland's request
> > > * HttpCore module now includes javadoc, source cross-reference and
> > > clover (test coverage) reports
> > >
> > > The preview can be found at the usual location
> > > http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/
> > >
> > > Please let me know if you think something major is still missing.
> >
>
> Many thanks, Sebastian
>
> > Not major, but:
> >
> > How about linking the Netscape Cookie spec to the front page?
> >
>
> Done.
>
> >
> > ==
> >
> > A few minor layout issues:
> >
> > There's an unexpected change of font size on the pages:
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/charter.html
> > http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/goals.html
> >
> > It looks like the style for bullet points has a larger font size than
> > the main text.
> >
>
> Fixed
Looks much better now.
>
> > The link at the bottom of the page:
> > http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/http-core/issue-tracking.html
> >
> > works, but I'm not sure it helps to have it displayed in full...
> >
>
> I cant help it. This is the way Maven end up generating the page.
>
Yuk!
I guess/hope that will be fixed by Maven one day...
> Please review
A little gremlin seems to have attacked the Cookies page:
Netscate
> http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/
>
Generally it looks very good, and seems to be easy to navigate.
Just noticed something a bit strange - the HttpCore and HttpAsynch
module pages have a left navigation bar with a "Home" link, but the
other modules don't. Not sure whether this is intentional or not.
The naming of the modules makes their purpose fairly clear, but it
might still be useful to have a brief summary of each on the front
page.
It would be nice if the Wiki link indicated that it was an "external" link.
Sorry if these seem picky ... feel free to ignore!
S.
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Re: [HttpComponents] web site (update 5)
Posted by Ortwin Glück <od...@odi.ch>.
Bindul Bhowmik wrote:
> Few very very minor cosmetic issues:
> Most Jakarta projects' web site headers have both the Jakarta Logo and
> the Project logo. But the HttpComponents website just has the Jakarta
> Logo.
Don't dispair. The designer is working on the logo. I hope to post it
for review next week.
Odi
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Re: [HttpComponents] web site (update 5)
Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 00:56 +0530, Bindul Bhowmik wrote:
> Hello Oleg,
>
Hello, Bindul
...
> Few very very minor cosmetic issues:
> Most Jakarta projects' web site headers have both the Jakarta Logo and
> the Project logo. But the HttpComponents website just has the Jakarta
> Logo.
>
We simply do not have a logo yet.
> In the main navigation bar, 'Project charter' and 'Project goals'
> might look better as 'Project Charter' and 'Project Goals' keeping in
> line with 'Project Info' (capitalized first character of second word).
>
Done.
> In the Project Charter page, in the fourth bullet of the Project scope
> '(formerly Jakarta Commons HttpClient )' has a space before the
> closing brace. This causes the closing brace to appear in the next
> line in some displays (It does in mine - Firefox, screen resolution
> 1024x768)
>
Fixed.
> In the Project Charter page, under 'Targeted specifications and
> standards', 'http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/norobots-rfc.html' might look
> good hyperlinked.
>
This is a verbatim copy of the project charter as approved by the
Jakarta PMC, so I think we should keep it in sync with the original
> I understand that the different 'modules' are maven projects
> themselves. But do we want to keep separate 'Project Info' pages for
> each of them? Right now each of the 'Project Info' pages (Issue
> Tracking, Mail List, etc.) are actually different pages for each
> module and also the HttpComponent.
>
Some of them do make sense on a per module basis: dependencies, issue
tracking, source repository. Some certainly do not, project team for
instance, but Maven appears really bent on adding them nonetheless
> Related, although 'Project Reports' makes sense when they appear
> separately for each module. As a user, I might want to see some
> consolidated reports such as javadocs, etc.
>
Consolidated javadoc is definitely a good idea. As soon as we have
another module in ALPHA quality (besides HttpCore), I will try to come
up with something like that
> The archives links for the mailing lists points to the mbox archives
> on Apache servers, which might be the official archives. But, would it
> make sense if we pointed the archives links to mail-archive.com or
> marc.theaimsgroup.com or some such else?
>
I added both mail-archive.com and marc.theaimsgroup.com to the project's
pom.xml as additional archives, but this had no effect on the HTML
content generated by Maven. No idea why.
> The Wiki still says HttpClient Wiki. Are we planning to rename it or
> use a new page as the HttpComponents FrontPage?
>
Lots of things need renaming: project name in Bugzilla, mailing lists,
wiki. We'll tackle it as go along.
> > http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/
> >
> > Oleg
>
> I was working on checking some site's user friendliness in my day job,
> so these might have stuck on me. I am still looking at the site and
> will post anything else I find.
>
Any extra cycles spent on HttpComponents will be hugely appreciated.
Cheers,
Oleg
> Hope this helps,
> Bindul
>
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Re: [HttpComponents] web site (update 5)
Posted by Bindul Bhowmik <bi...@gmail.com>.
Hello Oleg,
Was lurking on the list for sometime. Should congratulate you on the
great work with the site.
On 3/8/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 17:10 +0000, sebb wrote:
> > On 08/03/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > I just updated and redeployed the preview of the HttpComponents web
> > > site.
> > >
> > > Changelog:
> > > * Link to the project Wiki per Roland's request
> > > * HttpCore module now includes javadoc, source cross-reference and
> > > clover (test coverage) reports
> > >
> > > The preview can be found at the usual location
> > > http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/
> > >
> > > Please let me know if you think something major is still missing.
> >
>
> Many thanks, Sebastian
>
> > Not major, but:
> >
> > How about linking the Netscape Cookie spec to the front page?
> >
>
> Done.
>
> >
> > ==
> >
> > A few minor layout issues:
> >
> > There's an unexpected change of font size on the pages:
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/charter.html
> > http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/goals.html
> >
> > It looks like the style for bullet points has a larger font size than
> > the main text.
> >
>
> Fixed
>
>
> > The link at the bottom of the page:
> > http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/http-core/issue-tracking.html
> >
> > works, but I'm not sure it helps to have it displayed in full...
> >
>
> I cant help it. This is the way Maven end up generating the page.
>
> Please review
Few very very minor cosmetic issues:
Most Jakarta projects' web site headers have both the Jakarta Logo and
the Project logo. But the HttpComponents website just has the Jakarta
Logo.
In the main navigation bar, 'Project charter' and 'Project goals'
might look better as 'Project Charter' and 'Project Goals' keeping in
line with 'Project Info' (capitalized first character of second word).
In the Project Charter page, in the fourth bullet of the Project scope
'(formerly Jakarta Commons HttpClient )' has a space before the
closing brace. This causes the closing brace to appear in the next
line in some displays (It does in mine - Firefox, screen resolution
1024x768)
In the Project Charter page, under 'Targeted specifications and
standards', 'http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/norobots-rfc.html' might look
good hyperlinked.
I understand that the different 'modules' are maven projects
themselves. But do we want to keep separate 'Project Info' pages for
each of them? Right now each of the 'Project Info' pages (Issue
Tracking, Mail List, etc.) are actually different pages for each
module and also the HttpComponent.
Related, although 'Project Reports' makes sense when they appear
separately for each module. As a user, I might want to see some
consolidated reports such as javadocs, etc.
The archives links for the mailing lists points to the mbox archives
on Apache servers, which might be the official archives. But, would it
make sense if we pointed the archives links to mail-archive.com or
marc.theaimsgroup.com or some such else?
The Wiki still says HttpClient Wiki. Are we planning to rename it or
use a new page as the HttpComponents FrontPage?
> http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpcomponents/
>
> Oleg
I was working on checking some site's user friendliness in my day job,
so these might have stuck on me. I am still looking at the site and
will post anything else I find.
Hope this helps,
Bindul
>
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