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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Ross Burton <ro...@mail.com> on 2000/09/06 09:14:53 UTC
[C2] Cocoon with Tomcat
Hi,
Who out there runs Cocoon 2 inside Tomcat? I'm using the latest CVS of C2
and a CVS of Tomcat just after the 3.2 milestone (to fix a nasty bug IIRC).
When I load Tomcat there are approx. 20 JVMs in the process list (probably
most of them are threads) which take up over 100M! Is this usual? Is my
tomcat somehow huge? I've been talking to Pier about this and he reckons
that Tomcat shouldn't be above 25M, so has anybody got any idea what is
going on?
Thanks,
Ross Burton
Re: [C2] Cocoon with Tomcat
Posted by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>.
"Pier P. Fumagalli" wrote:
>
> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> >
> > Ross Burton wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Who out there runs Cocoon 2 inside Tomcat? I'm using the latest CVS of C2
> > > and a CVS of Tomcat just after the 3.2 milestone (to fix a nasty bug IIRC).
> > > When I load Tomcat there are approx. 20 JVMs in the process list (probably
> > > most of them are threads) which take up over 100M! Is this usual? Is my
> > > tomcat somehow huge? I've been talking to Pier about this and he reckons
> > > that Tomcat shouldn't be above 25M, so has anybody got any idea what is
> > > going on?
> >
> > I'm working with Catalina (Tomcat 4.0-dev) and do not have these
> > problems. You might want to switch (cvs checkout jakarta-tomcat-4.0
> > since the module name has changed.
>
> Hmm... How much memory do you see consumed by Catalina+Cocoon???
For sure less than 100Mb otherwise my machine (128Mb of RAM) will choke
big time. I'd estimate no more than usual 10Mb, but I can't really tell
you now since my Cocoon2 doesn't work (trying to chase what they appear
as classloading problems since I've placed everything in WEB-INF/lib and
for something it works for something else it doesn't... very weird...)
But I agree, should be more than 25Mb (on SUN JDK1.3 for Win2k)
--
Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be
able to give birth to a dancing star.
<st...@apache.org> Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: [C2] Cocoon with Tomcat
Posted by "Pier P. Fumagalli" <pi...@eng.sun.com>.
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>
> Ross Burton wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Who out there runs Cocoon 2 inside Tomcat? I'm using the latest CVS of C2
> > and a CVS of Tomcat just after the 3.2 milestone (to fix a nasty bug IIRC).
> > When I load Tomcat there are approx. 20 JVMs in the process list (probably
> > most of them are threads) which take up over 100M! Is this usual? Is my
> > tomcat somehow huge? I've been talking to Pier about this and he reckons
> > that Tomcat shouldn't be above 25M, so has anybody got any idea what is
> > going on?
>
> I'm working with Catalina (Tomcat 4.0-dev) and do not have these
> problems. You might want to switch (cvs checkout jakarta-tomcat-4.0
> since the module name has changed.
Hmm... How much memory do you see consumed by Catalina+Cocoon???
Pier
Re: [C2] Cocoon with Tomcat
Posted by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>.
Ross Burton wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Who out there runs Cocoon 2 inside Tomcat? I'm using the latest CVS of C2
> and a CVS of Tomcat just after the 3.2 milestone (to fix a nasty bug IIRC).
> When I load Tomcat there are approx. 20 JVMs in the process list (probably
> most of them are threads) which take up over 100M! Is this usual? Is my
> tomcat somehow huge? I've been talking to Pier about this and he reckons
> that Tomcat shouldn't be above 25M, so has anybody got any idea what is
> going on?
I'm working with Catalina (Tomcat 4.0-dev) and do not have these
problems. You might want to switch (cvs checkout jakarta-tomcat-4.0
since the module name has changed.
--
Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be
able to give birth to a dancing star.
<st...@apache.org> Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: [C2] Cocoon with Tomcat
Posted by "Pier P. Fumagalli" <pi...@apache.org>.
"Pier P. Fumagalli" wrote:
>
> Ross Burton wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Who out there runs Cocoon 2 inside Tomcat? I'm using the latest CVS of C2
> > and a CVS of Tomcat just after the 3.2 milestone (to fix a nasty bug IIRC).
> > When I load Tomcat there are approx. 20 JVMs in the process list (probably
> > most of them are threads) which take up over 100M! Is this usual? Is my
> > tomcat somehow huge? I've been talking to Pier about this and he reckons
> > that Tomcat shouldn't be above 25M, so has anybody got any idea what is
> > going on?
>
> Ok... Just to point out that the 20 processes on your PS (I've seen
> Ross' output) are just threads... We already cleared up this one, but
> the memory consumption is awfully over 100 Mb (on the overall process,
> and NOT summing each thread memory consumption... Every process/thread
> in PS consumes the same amount 123 Mb of RAM! total 123 Mb allocated by
> the VM...)
>
> Craig said it's approximately 25/30 last time I asked...
By the way... Just to check Craig's accurateness.. Did you try to run it
without Cocoon installed???
Pier
Re: [C2] Cocoon with Tomcat
Posted by "Pier P. Fumagalli" <pi...@apache.org>.
Ross Burton wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Who out there runs Cocoon 2 inside Tomcat? I'm using the latest CVS of C2
> and a CVS of Tomcat just after the 3.2 milestone (to fix a nasty bug IIRC).
> When I load Tomcat there are approx. 20 JVMs in the process list (probably
> most of them are threads) which take up over 100M! Is this usual? Is my
> tomcat somehow huge? I've been talking to Pier about this and he reckons
> that Tomcat shouldn't be above 25M, so has anybody got any idea what is
> going on?
Ok... Just to point out that the 20 processes on your PS (I've seen
Ross' output) are just threads... We already cleared up this one, but
the memory consumption is awfully over 100 Mb (on the overall process,
and NOT summing each thread memory consumption... Every process/thread
in PS consumes the same amount 123 Mb of RAM! total 123 Mb allocated by
the VM...)
Craig said it's approximately 25/30 last time I asked...
Pier
Re: AW: How to get C2 from CVS
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@supereva.it>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefano Mazzocchi" <st...@apache.org>
> Eugen Kimmerstorfer wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry, but when I access anoncvs@xml.apache.org with passwd "anoncvs",
> > the module "xml-cocoon2" doesn't exist. I get the following:
> >
> > cvs server: cannot find module `xml-cocoon2' - ignored
> > cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules
> >
> > Is this my mistake (again)? Or can't I access C2 with anoncvs?
>
> why people don't read the docs?
>
> http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/cocoon2.html
Because IMO the info about using CVS in the Apache web site
is hard to find, and first of all you have to know you have to find
it.
In the Cocoon2 docs it's clear but of course not enough for starting
with cvs... .
If I the info is not enough I ... I ... heck, usually I read docs and
if I don't find them ask where they are, not for the solution!
Yeah, right, why don't people read the docs? ;-)
Maybe yhere is something I'm missing, but why not put the faq
on this list in the site faq regularly?
Like... ok, I answered in the faq, go see there. :-)
Cheers,
nicola_ken
Re: AW: How to get C2 from CVS
Posted by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>.
Eugen Kimmerstorfer wrote:
>
> I'm sorry, but when I access anoncvs@xml.apache.org with passwd "anoncvs",
> the module "xml-cocoon2" doesn't exist. I get the following:
>
> cvs server: cannot find module `xml-cocoon2' - ignored
> cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules
>
> Is this my mistake (again)? Or can't I access C2 with anoncvs?
why people don't read the docs?
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/cocoon2.html
--
Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be
able to give birth to a dancing star.
<st...@apache.org> Friedrich Nietzsche
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AW: How to get C2 from CVS
Posted by Eugen Kimmerstorfer <eu...@jk.uni-linz.ac.at>.
I'm sorry, but when I access anoncvs@xml.apache.org with passwd "anoncvs",
the module "xml-cocoon2" doesn't exist. I get the following:
cvs server: cannot find module `xml-cocoon2' - ignored
cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules
Is this my mistake (again)? Or can't I access C2 with anoncvs?
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Gerogi Danov [mailto:gdanov@comsoft.bg]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. September 2000 09:44
> An: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> Betreff: RE: How to get C2 from CVS
>
>
> >
> >
> > Sorry for this beginner's question, but how do I
> > get the C2 from CVS? When I get the xml-cocoon module
> > from anoncvs@xml.apache.org and compile it using
> > "build" it seems to be version 1.8-dev. Or is this
> > the right version (C2) anyway?
> you should get "xml-cocoon2" , not "xml-cocoon" module, thats the mistake
>
AW: How to get C2 from CVS
Posted by Eugen Kimmerstorfer <eu...@jk.uni-linz.ac.at>.
Ah, OK, thank you very much!
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Gerogi Danov [mailto:gdanov@comsoft.bg]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. September 2000 09:44
> An: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> Betreff: RE: How to get C2 from CVS
>
>
> >
> >
> > Sorry for this beginner's question, but how do I
> > get the C2 from CVS? When I get the xml-cocoon module
> > from anoncvs@xml.apache.org and compile it using
> > "build" it seems to be version 1.8-dev. Or is this
> > the right version (C2) anyway?
> you should get "xml-cocoon2" , not "xml-cocoon" module, thats the mistake
>
RE: How to get C2 from CVS
Posted by Gerogi Danov <gd...@comsoft.bg>.
>
>
> Sorry for this beginner's question, but how do I
> get the C2 from CVS? When I get the xml-cocoon module
> from anoncvs@xml.apache.org and compile it using
> "build" it seems to be version 1.8-dev. Or is this
> the right version (C2) anyway?
you should get "xml-cocoon2" , not "xml-cocoon" module, thats the mistake
How to get C2 from CVS
Posted by Eugen Kimmerstorfer <eu...@jk.uni-linz.ac.at>.
Sorry for this beginner's question, but how do I
get the C2 from CVS? When I get the xml-cocoon module
from anoncvs@xml.apache.org and compile it using
"build" it seems to be version 1.8-dev. Or is this
the right version (C2) anyway?
Thank you!
Eugen