Thanks guys:....Re: JSP v. XSP (was Re: performance inquiry)

[java guru <ja...@yahoo.co.in>]

Thanks guys..I really appreciate everyone who
participated in "C2 Performance Issue"..Now i can plan
my project better.. I saw couple of suggestions/query
about precompilation and having c2 to startup on
tomcat.... I am gonna try that and post the results...


Thanks again

--- Frans Thamura <ft...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Are
you ever create a contentn management system
> using XML???
> 
> You will see how great XSP is it? and how powerfull
> is a XML system.
> 
> Frans Thamura
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Mills <py...@yahoo.com>
> To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> <co...@xml.apache.org>
> Date: Thursday, June 21, 2001 2:41 AM
> Subject: JSP v. XSP (was Re: performance inquiry)
> 
> 
> >I am not interested in time right now, atleast not
> ms.  Why else would I
> >want to use XSP?  I used XSPs for awhile, but I
> prefer JSP for a few
> reason,
> >and right now one doesn't work.  I will consider
> migrating, as most of my
> >work is done in classes and XSLT.  The first is:
> ><jsp:useBean id="login"
> class="com.pyramid6.util.WebLogin" scope="session"
> >/>
> ><jsp:setProperty name="login" property="*" />
> >
> >This makes it real easy and nice to support
> sessions and read the request
> >parameters.
> >
> >The second one, which doesn't work in beta 1 is: 
> <jsp:directive.page
> >errorPage="error.html" />
> >
> >This will catch exceptions real easy, and display a
> nice page for me.
> >
> >Now the only benifit I saw with XSP over JSP is
> with databases.  I am not
> >planning on using a database, so this point was
> lost on me.
> >
> >JSP is an industry standard right now.  While I am
> sure XSP is gaining
> >support, I am tring to stick to established
> standards.  I am not real
> >concerned with this, as my files are only about 20
> lines long, and I will
> >have about five of them.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Anthony Mills
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Berin Loritsch" <bl...@apache.org>
> >To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:07 PM
> >Subject: Re: performance inquiry
> >
> >
> >> Anthony Mills wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I am developing a web site using JSP and Cocoon
> 2.  I am running two
> >tomcat
> >> > web servers (3.2 and 4.0beta) on the same box
> at the same time.  I have
> >a
> >> > Pentium III 450 with 192mb ram.  I have noticed
> a few things.  First,
> it
> >> > takes a little while to start, about 20
> seconds.  A page take about 5
> >> > seconds to load the first time.  After that, I
> am more limited by my
> >> > connection (128kbps up) than I am by my web
> pages.  The pages come back
> >> > within seconds.  I have JSPs being run through
> Cocoon 2; I assume that
> >xsp
> >> > would have similar speeds.  Keep in mind this
> is not a scientific
> >> > measurement, just what I "notice".  Also, both
> web server are running
> >about
> >> > 34mb, with little interaction so far.  One
> thing to consider when
> >deploying
> >> > your app.  You can precompiled your jsp/xsp
> pages.  This would speed
> >things
> >> > up considerably.
> >>
> >>
> >> The first access is from the Sitemap compiling. 
> It and the XSP pages can
> >be
> >> precompiled.  Cocoon takes roughly 15-20 seconds
> to start up mainly
> >because of
> >> the number of managed resources it is
> controlling, and because of the
> >compiled
> >> sitemap.  If you make Cocoon load on startup then
> most of the
> >initialization
> >> will have been done before the first request.
> >>
> >> 5 seconds is about right for an XSP page.
> >>
> >> Keep in mind that XSP is a better match than JSP
> for Cocoon--there is
> less
> >> translation and parsing that has to happen.  By
> doing that you will shave
> >off
> >> a few milliseconds per request (10-50ms depending
> on size of
> information).
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Hope this helps,
> >> >
> >> > Anthony Mills
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "java guru" <ja...@yahoo.co.in>
> >> > To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:33 AM
> >> > Subject: performance inquiry
> >> >
> >> > > Hi.,
> >> > >   I am begining of developing a
> >> > > standalone/networked/web application. But
> need to
> >> > > decide what to use. C2 attracted be 'coz of
> many cool
> >> > > features i might use in the future..
> >> > >
> >> > > But performance issues scares me.... I need
> advice..
> >> > >
> >> > > The application need to run standalone or
> networked
> >> > > like web app...Considering this..
> >> > >
> >> > > 1. Is it better to do with servlet and jsp:
> In this
> >> > > case i have problem with connection pooling
> and o/r
> >> > > mapping to database
> >> > >
> >> > > 2. Is it better to use xml stuff with c2: In
> this i
> >> > > fear for performance. I fear it might demand
> high end
> >> > > configuration user systems compared to no1..
> >> > >
> >> > > Please advice
> >> > > thanks
> >> > >
> >> > >
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