Do the tomcat developers use bugzilla?

[Josh Rehman <jr...@citysearch.com>]

At first I was shocked that TC5 has only 15 bugs registered. Then I 
looked at the TC4 bugs: only 647, and almost all of them new.

Should I bother filing any more bugs? Are the TC developers using 
another bug system? Are they using any bug system? Speaking of which, 
who *is* developing Tomcat these days?

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Thanks,
Josh Rehman
Citysearch


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Re: Do the tomcat developers use bugzilla?

[David Rees <dr...@greenhydrant.com>]

Josh Rehman wrote, On 2/4/2004 10:21 PM:

> At first I was shocked that TC5 has only 15 bugs registered. Then I 
> looked at the TC4 bugs: only 647, and almost all of them new.
> 
> Should I bother filing any more bugs? Are the TC developers using 
> another bug system? Are they using any bug system? Speaking of which, 
> who *is* developing Tomcat these days?

You really should have a look at the -dev list.  BTW, I found 598 bugs 
in various states for TC5, and 3284 bugs in various states for TC4.

The main reason you see a lot of open bugs for TC4 is because there is a 
LOT more users using TC4, and not many developers working on TC4 
anymore.  It takes a lot of time to wade through those bug reports, 
validate them and do the appropriate thing.

You make it sound like Tomcat developers aren't doing anything, when in 
fact they are working very hard.

-Dave

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Re: Do the tomcat developers use bugzilla?

[Remy Maucherat <re...@jboss.org>]

Josh Rehman wrote:
> At first I was shocked that TC5 has only 15 bugs registered. Then I 
> looked at the TC4 bugs: only 647, and almost all of them new.
> 
> Should I bother filing any more bugs? Are the TC developers using 
> another bug system? Are they using any bug system? Speaking of which, 
> who *is* developing Tomcat these days?

Yes, you can file bugs, no problem. They are looked at. Sometimes, 
developers don't agree something is a bug, though, and it is appreciated 
if reports are of good quality (= not a user error + giving accurate 
ways to reproduce the issue).

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JBoss Group (Europe) SàRL
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RE: Do the tomcat developers use bugzilla?

[Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>]

From: Josh Rehman [mailto:jrehman@citysearch.com] 
> Subject: Do the tomcat developers use bugzilla?
> 
> At first I was shocked that TC5 has only 15 bugs registered. Then I 
> looked at the TC4 bugs: only 647, and almost all of them new.
> 
> Should I bother filing any more bugs? Are the TC developers using 
> another bug system? Are they using any bug system? Speaking of which, 
> who *is* developing Tomcat these days?

I have spent the best part of the last 3 months working my way through the TC4
bugs, fixing those that need fixing.

Ignoring enhancement requests (of which there were 125 at the last count) there
are about 570 unresolved bug reports. I am resolving around 10 a week so around
this time next year...

You, and the others that raise this topic from time to time, might be interested
in the following. Based on the bugs resolved to date I would estimate that the
breakdown of bugs is as follows:

< 1% Significant issues - these get dealt with pretty promptly
10% Invalid bugs from inexperienced users who should have used tomcat-user first
5%  Documentation errors/clarifications/issues
10% Real issues but unusual use cases rarely seen by more than one user
10% Totally useless bug reports with no where near enough info to reproduce
20% Duplicates
25% Issues in old versions that have already been fixed
10% Trivial issues (eg javadoc compilation warnings)
5%  Spec issues that are outside the control of the tomcat team
5%  Things that should actually be enhancement requests

Note: The figures above are based on my impression. I haven't done any detailed
analysis - to busy fixing bugs ;)

Personally, I would love to see the total number of open bugs reduced at an even
faster rate. Any offers of help gratefully received. On that note by far the
most helpful thing anyone reporting a bug in bugzilla can do is attach a simple
war that exhibits the problem. The less time I spend building test apps for
bugs, the more time I can spend fixing them.

Mark



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