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Posted to doc@openoffice.apache.org by RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> on 2013/01/04 02:15:47 UTC
Organizing future discussions
Hello, list
Maybe we can start to discuss how the documentation for AOO 4 will be
organized, going on with a long discussion we had on the dev mailing
list(1).
IMO, there are three main topics that needs to be addressed:
* Bundled help: As previously mentioned on this list by Pedro Giffuni, the
online help system is really useful but it needs a lot of love. I have no
idea how those help pages are build... If someone on the list know how all
this work (how new pages are created, how existing ones are modified...)
please start a new thread with some pointers.
* Web help: Build a full documentation on the wiki that can be used as
reference for any documentation effort. As I mentioned on the DEV list, on
the ES wiki we started an experiment(2), and based on this I wrote a
"proposed TOC" draft(3).
* Books, either printed or as distributable PDFs. Content for this can be
worked from the previous point, but we need to define templates, for
example.
Anything else?
(1) http://markmail.org/message/tnxe66xxmad6njhq
(2) http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO
(3)
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Details+on+Scenario+3#DetailsonScenario3-ProposedTOC
Regards
Ricardo
Re: Organizing future discussions
Posted by Guy Waterval <wa...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ricardo,
2013/1/4 RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>
> Hello, list
>
> Maybe we can start to discuss how the documentation for AOO 4 will be
> organized, going on with a long discussion we had on the dev mailing
> list(1).
>
> IMO, there are three main topics that needs to be addressed:
>
> * Bundled help: As previously mentioned on this list by Pedro Giffuni, the
> online help system is really useful but it needs a lot of love. I have no
> idea how those help pages are build... If someone on the list know how all
> this work (how new pages are created, how existing ones are modified...)
> please start a new thread with some pointers.
>
https://www.google.com/search?q=OOo2HelpAuthoring.pdf&sugexp=chrome,mod=2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Not for me ;-)
>
> * Web help: Build a full documentation on the wiki that can be used as
> reference for any documentation effort. As I mentioned on the DEV list, on
> the ES wiki we started an experiment(2), and based on this I wrote a
> "proposed TOC" draft(3).
>
I think it's the best choice for the main doc. For me it requests to learn
about how to write in a wiki, but this is the life ;-)
>
> * Books, either printed or as distributable PDFs. Content for this can be
> worked from the previous point, but we need to define templates, for
> example.
>
Books and why not multimedia ebooks derivated from the docs on the wiki
would be nice. But before, we need to have a "full" documentation on the
wiki.
>
> Anything else?
>
As I'm involved in the educoo.org doc project and work under ALv2.0, I
could share material with an AOO doc project. But ... my docs are in
french. So, I don't really know if that helps or not. BTW I will install an
AOO english version to can help the english writers. By experience, I know
that it's really boring to control its own work and it takes a lot of time,
so I could help them to spare time.
--
gw
>
> (1) http://markmail.org/message/tnxe66xxmad6njhq
> (2) http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO
> (3)
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Details+on+Scenario+3#DetailsonScenario3-ProposedTOC
>
> Regards
> Ricardo
>
Re: Organizing future discussions
Posted by RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>.
2013/1/4 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:15 PM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello, list
> >
> > Maybe we can start to discuss how the documentation for AOO 4 will be
> > organized, going on with a long discussion we had on the dev mailing
> > list(1).
> >
> > IMO, there are three main topics that needs to be addressed:
> >
> > * Bundled help: As previously mentioned on this list by Pedro Giffuni,
> the
> > online help system is really useful but it needs a lot of love. I have no
> > idea how those help pages are build... If someone on the list know how
> all
> > this work (how new pages are created, how existing ones are modified...)
> > please start a new thread with some pointers.
> >
> > * Web help: Build a full documentation on the wiki that can be used as
> > reference for any documentation effort. As I mentioned on the DEV list,
> on
> > the ES wiki we started an experiment(2), and based on this I wrote a
> > "proposed TOC" draft(3).
> >
> > * Books, either printed or as distributable PDFs. Content for this can be
> > worked from the previous point, but we need to define templates, for
> > example.
> >
>
> Wikipedia has the ability to export MWiki pages to ODF format. It is
> part of their "Book creator" feature. (They can also export to PDF).
> Would something like help? Or do we need more control over layout and
> formatting?
>
That depends on how the odt document is created: if styles are used, there
is no problem, just a bit of work to redefine the styles and everything
will be OK. Maybe cross references between pages could be a bit
problematic... but nothing that a good search&replace cannot sort, IMO.
Regards
Ricardo
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > Anything else?
> >
> > (1) http://markmail.org/message/tnxe66xxmad6njhq
> > (2) http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO
> > (3)
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Details+on+Scenario+3#DetailsonScenario3-ProposedTOC
> >
> > Regards
> > Ricardo
>
Re: Organizing future discussions
Posted by louise forsberg <ri...@yahoo.se>.
--- Den fre 2013-01-04 skrev louise forsberg <ri...@yahoo.se>:
Från: louise forsberg <ri...@yahoo.se>
Ämne: Re: Organizing future discussions
Till: doc@openoffice.apache.org, andrew@pitonyak.org
Datum: fredag 4 januari 2013 16:02
not possible for me
only calling as I have very weak eyes etc
--- Den fre 2013-01-04 skrev Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <an...@pitonyak.org>:
Från: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <an...@pitonyak.org>
Ämne: Re: Organizing future discussions
Till: doc@openoffice.apache.org
Kopia: "louise forsberg" <ri...@yahoo.se>
Datum: fredag 4 januari 2013 15:24
OpenOffice is supported by the community of users, so there is no phone
support.
Sadly, I do not see a native swedish mailing list
http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.html
Or a forum (this link shows supported language forums)
http://forum.openoffice.org/
If there is no swedish forum or mailing list (I did not see one), then
consider posting to the English forum or the English mailing list
users-subscribe@openoffice.apache.org to subscribe
users@openoffice.apache.org to ask questions after you subscribe
users-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org to un-subscribe
Ask your specific question in both English (best you can) and in Swedish
(in the same email or forum post).
On 01/04/2013 08:57 AM, louise forsberg wrote:
> where can I call swedish support which number?
>
> --- Den fre 2013-01-04 skrev Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>:
>
>
> Från: Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
> Ämne: Re: Organizing future discussions
> Till: doc@openoffice.apache.org
> Datum: fredag 4 januari 2013 14:17
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:15 PM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello, list
>>
>> Maybe we can start to discuss how the documentation for AOO 4 will be
>> organized, going on with a long discussion we had on the dev mailing
>> list(1).
>>
>> IMO, there are three main topics that needs to be addressed:
>>
>> * Bundled help: As previously mentioned on this list by Pedro Giffuni, the
>> online help system is really useful but it needs a lot of love. I have no
>> idea how those help pages are build... If someone on the list know how all
>> this work (how new pages are created, how existing ones are modified...)
>> please start a new thread with some pointers.
>>
>> * Web help: Build a full documentation on the wiki that can be used as
>> reference for any documentation effort. As I mentioned on the DEV list, on
>> the ES wiki we started an experiment(2), and based on this I wrote a
>> "proposed TOC" draft(3).
>>
>> * Books, either printed or as distributable PDFs. Content for this can be
>> worked from the previous point, but we need to define templates, for
>> example.
>>
> Wikipedia has the ability to export MWiki pages to ODF format. It is
> part of their "Book creator" feature. (They can also export to PDF).
> Would something like help? Or do we need more control over layout and
> formatting?
>
> -Rob
>
>
>> Anything else?
>>
>> (1) http://markmail.org/message/tnxe66xxmad6njhq
>> (2) http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO
>> (3)
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Details+on+Scenario+3#DetailsonScenario3-ProposedTOC
>>
>> Regards
>> Ricardo
--
Andrew Pitonyak
My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
Re: Organizing future discussions
Posted by louise forsberg <ri...@yahoo.se>.
not possible for me
only calling as I have very weak eyes etc
--- Den fre 2013-01-04 skrev Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <an...@pitonyak.org>:
Från: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <an...@pitonyak.org>
Ämne: Re: Organizing future discussions
Till: doc@openoffice.apache.org
Kopia: "louise forsberg" <ri...@yahoo.se>
Datum: fredag 4 januari 2013 15:24
OpenOffice is supported by the community of users, so there is no phone
support.
Sadly, I do not see a native swedish mailing list
http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.html
Or a forum (this link shows supported language forums)
http://forum.openoffice.org/
If there is no swedish forum or mailing list (I did not see one), then
consider posting to the English forum or the English mailing list
users-subscribe@openoffice.apache.org to subscribe
users@openoffice.apache.org to ask questions after you subscribe
users-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org to un-subscribe
Ask your specific question in both English (best you can) and in Swedish
(in the same email or forum post).
On 01/04/2013 08:57 AM, louise forsberg wrote:
> where can I call swedish support which number?
>
> --- Den fre 2013-01-04 skrev Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>:
>
>
> Från: Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
> Ämne: Re: Organizing future discussions
> Till: doc@openoffice.apache.org
> Datum: fredag 4 januari 2013 14:17
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:15 PM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello, list
>>
>> Maybe we can start to discuss how the documentation for AOO 4 will be
>> organized, going on with a long discussion we had on the dev mailing
>> list(1).
>>
>> IMO, there are three main topics that needs to be addressed:
>>
>> * Bundled help: As previously mentioned on this list by Pedro Giffuni, the
>> online help system is really useful but it needs a lot of love. I have no
>> idea how those help pages are build... If someone on the list know how all
>> this work (how new pages are created, how existing ones are modified...)
>> please start a new thread with some pointers.
>>
>> * Web help: Build a full documentation on the wiki that can be used as
>> reference for any documentation effort. As I mentioned on the DEV list, on
>> the ES wiki we started an experiment(2), and based on this I wrote a
>> "proposed TOC" draft(3).
>>
>> * Books, either printed or as distributable PDFs. Content for this can be
>> worked from the previous point, but we need to define templates, for
>> example.
>>
> Wikipedia has the ability to export MWiki pages to ODF format. It is
> part of their "Book creator" feature. (They can also export to PDF).
> Would something like help? Or do we need more control over layout and
> formatting?
>
> -Rob
>
>
>> Anything else?
>>
>> (1) http://markmail.org/message/tnxe66xxmad6njhq
>> (2) http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO
>> (3)
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Details+on+Scenario+3#DetailsonScenario3-ProposedTOC
>>
>> Regards
>> Ricardo
--
Andrew Pitonyak
My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
Re: Organizing future discussions
Posted by Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <an...@pitonyak.org>.
OpenOffice is supported by the community of users, so there is no phone
support.
Sadly, I do not see a native swedish mailing list
http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.html
Or a forum (this link shows supported language forums)
http://forum.openoffice.org/
If there is no swedish forum or mailing list (I did not see one), then
consider posting to the English forum or the English mailing list
users-subscribe@openoffice.apache.org to subscribe
users@openoffice.apache.org to ask questions after you subscribe
users-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org to un-subscribe
Ask your specific question in both English (best you can) and in Swedish
(in the same email or forum post).
On 01/04/2013 08:57 AM, louise forsberg wrote:
> where can I call swedish support which number?
>
> --- Den fre 2013-01-04 skrev Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>:
>
>
> Från: Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
> Ämne: Re: Organizing future discussions
> Till: doc@openoffice.apache.org
> Datum: fredag 4 januari 2013 14:17
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:15 PM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello, list
>>
>> Maybe we can start to discuss how the documentation for AOO 4 will be
>> organized, going on with a long discussion we had on the dev mailing
>> list(1).
>>
>> IMO, there are three main topics that needs to be addressed:
>>
>> * Bundled help: As previously mentioned on this list by Pedro Giffuni, the
>> online help system is really useful but it needs a lot of love. I have no
>> idea how those help pages are build... If someone on the list know how all
>> this work (how new pages are created, how existing ones are modified...)
>> please start a new thread with some pointers.
>>
>> * Web help: Build a full documentation on the wiki that can be used as
>> reference for any documentation effort. As I mentioned on the DEV list, on
>> the ES wiki we started an experiment(2), and based on this I wrote a
>> "proposed TOC" draft(3).
>>
>> * Books, either printed or as distributable PDFs. Content for this can be
>> worked from the previous point, but we need to define templates, for
>> example.
>>
> Wikipedia has the ability to export MWiki pages to ODF format. It is
> part of their "Book creator" feature. (They can also export to PDF).
> Would something like help? Or do we need more control over layout and
> formatting?
>
> -Rob
>
>
>> Anything else?
>>
>> (1) http://markmail.org/message/tnxe66xxmad6njhq
>> (2) http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO
>> (3)
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Details+on+Scenario+3#DetailsonScenario3-ProposedTOC
>>
>> Regards
>> Ricardo
--
Andrew Pitonyak
My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
Re: Organizing future discussions
Posted by louise forsberg <ri...@yahoo.se>.
where can I call swedish support which number?
--- Den fre 2013-01-04 skrev Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>:
Från: Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
Ämne: Re: Organizing future discussions
Till: doc@openoffice.apache.org
Datum: fredag 4 januari 2013 14:17
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:15 PM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, list
>
> Maybe we can start to discuss how the documentation for AOO 4 will be
> organized, going on with a long discussion we had on the dev mailing
> list(1).
>
> IMO, there are three main topics that needs to be addressed:
>
> * Bundled help: As previously mentioned on this list by Pedro Giffuni, the
> online help system is really useful but it needs a lot of love. I have no
> idea how those help pages are build... If someone on the list know how all
> this work (how new pages are created, how existing ones are modified...)
> please start a new thread with some pointers.
>
> * Web help: Build a full documentation on the wiki that can be used as
> reference for any documentation effort. As I mentioned on the DEV list, on
> the ES wiki we started an experiment(2), and based on this I wrote a
> "proposed TOC" draft(3).
>
> * Books, either printed or as distributable PDFs. Content for this can be
> worked from the previous point, but we need to define templates, for
> example.
>
Wikipedia has the ability to export MWiki pages to ODF format. It is
part of their "Book creator" feature. (They can also export to PDF).
Would something like help? Or do we need more control over layout and
formatting?
-Rob
> Anything else?
>
> (1) http://markmail.org/message/tnxe66xxmad6njhq
> (2) http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO
> (3)
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Details+on+Scenario+3#DetailsonScenario3-ProposedTOC
>
> Regards
> Ricardo
Re: Organizing future discussions
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:15 PM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, list
>
> Maybe we can start to discuss how the documentation for AOO 4 will be
> organized, going on with a long discussion we had on the dev mailing
> list(1).
>
> IMO, there are three main topics that needs to be addressed:
>
> * Bundled help: As previously mentioned on this list by Pedro Giffuni, the
> online help system is really useful but it needs a lot of love. I have no
> idea how those help pages are build... If someone on the list know how all
> this work (how new pages are created, how existing ones are modified...)
> please start a new thread with some pointers.
>
> * Web help: Build a full documentation on the wiki that can be used as
> reference for any documentation effort. As I mentioned on the DEV list, on
> the ES wiki we started an experiment(2), and based on this I wrote a
> "proposed TOC" draft(3).
>
> * Books, either printed or as distributable PDFs. Content for this can be
> worked from the previous point, but we need to define templates, for
> example.
>
Wikipedia has the ability to export MWiki pages to ODF format. It is
part of their "Book creator" feature. (They can also export to PDF).
Would something like help? Or do we need more control over layout and
formatting?
-Rob
> Anything else?
>
> (1) http://markmail.org/message/tnxe66xxmad6njhq
> (2) http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO
> (3)
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Details+on+Scenario+3#DetailsonScenario3-ProposedTOC
>
> Regards
> Ricardo
SV: Organizing future discussions
Posted by louise forsberg <ri...@yahoo.se>.
.. förstår ingenting - v v skriv på svenska ..
som ni skriver på open office att det ska fungera numera men inte har gått att tanka ner
vart kan jag ringa för erhålla vidare support om detta ?
--- Den fre 2013-01-04 skrev RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>:
Från: RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>
Ämne: Organizing future discussions
Till: doc@openoffice.apache.org
Datum: fredag 4 januari 2013 02:15
Hello, list
Maybe we can start to discuss how the documentation for AOO 4 will be
organized, going on with a long discussion we had on the dev mailing
list(1).
IMO, there are three main topics that needs to be addressed:
* Bundled help: As previously mentioned on this list by Pedro Giffuni, the
online help system is really useful but it needs a lot of love. I have no
idea how those help pages are build... If someone on the list know how all
this work (how new pages are created, how existing ones are modified...)
please start a new thread with some pointers.
* Web help: Build a full documentation on the wiki that can be used as
reference for any documentation effort. As I mentioned on the DEV list, on
the ES wiki we started an experiment(2), and based on this I wrote a
"proposed TOC" draft(3).
* Books, either printed or as distributable PDFs. Content for this can be
worked from the previous point, but we need to define templates, for
example.
Anything else?
(1) http://markmail.org/message/tnxe66xxmad6njhq
(2) http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO
(3)
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Details+on+Scenario+3#DetailsonScenario3-ProposedTOC
Regards
Ricardo