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[DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Dear Everyone,
Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community with a
vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that Apache
AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
project community has grown in the following areas:
-
Close to 900 commits
-
68 unique contributors
-
4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different companies/institutions
-
Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
-
4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
-
6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers (mentors
and PPMC members excluded)
-
Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel,
Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines, Russia, South
Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
-
Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
-
Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of AGE.
[5]
-
Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
-
Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6] and
didn't find any issues
[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
[3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
Releases menu.
[4] https://age.apache.org/
[5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
the Documentation menu.
[6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
<https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
think.
The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
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Establish the Apache AGE Project
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open technology
with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most advanced
relational database system software.; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
* Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
* Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
* Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
* Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
* John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
* Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
* Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
* Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
* Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
* Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
* Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
* Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
be it further
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
Thank you for your time and consideration,
Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>.
Thanks everyone for your valuable input.
Unless there's anything else that needs to be discussed, I expect we can close this [DISCUSS] thread and start the [VOTE] to graduate Apache AGE to a Top Level Project.
Best regards,
Eya
On 2021/12/13 21:04:30 Eya Badal wrote:
> Dear Everyone,
>
>
> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community with a
> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that Apache
> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
>
> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
>
> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
> project community has grown in the following areas:
>
>
> -
>
> Close to 900 commits
> -
>
> 68 unique contributors
> -
>
> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different companies/institutions
> -
>
> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> -
>
> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> -
>
> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers (mentors
> and PPMC members excluded)
>
>
> -
>
> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel,
> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines, Russia, South
> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> -
>
> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> -
>
> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of AGE.
> [5]
> -
>
> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> -
>
> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6] and
> didn't find any issues
>
>
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
>
> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
>
> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
> Releases menu.
>
> [4] https://age.apache.org/
>
> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
> the Documentation menu.
>
> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
>
> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> think.
>
> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Establish the Apache AGE Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>
> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>
> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>
> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open technology
>
> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
>
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
>
> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
>
> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most advanced
>
> relational database system software.; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
>
> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
>
> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
>
> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
>
> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
>
> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
>
> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
>
> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
>
> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
>
> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
>
> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
>
> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
>
> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
>
> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
>
> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
>
> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
>
> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
>
> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
>
> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
>
> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>
> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
>
> be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>
> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>
>
>
> Thank you for your time and consideration,
>
> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@comcast.net>.
No one has had time to review.
I would like to hear from the AGE mentors.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 16, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I am closing this [DISCUSS] thread now and will start the VOTE shortly to graduate Apache AGE (incubating) as a top level project.
>
> Best regards,
> Eya
>
>> On 2021/12/13 21:04:30 Eya Badal wrote:
>> Dear Everyone,
>>
>>
>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community with a
>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that Apache
>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
>>
>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
>>
>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
>> project community has grown in the following areas:
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>> Close to 900 commits
>> -
>>
>> 68 unique contributors
>> -
>>
>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different companies/institutions
>> -
>>
>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
>> -
>>
>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
>> -
>>
>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers (mentors
>> and PPMC members excluded)
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel,
>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines, Russia, South
>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
>> -
>>
>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
>> -
>>
>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of AGE.
>> [5]
>> -
>>
>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
>> -
>>
>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6] and
>> didn't find any issues
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
>>
>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
>>
>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
>> Releases menu.
>>
>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
>>
>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
>> the Documentation menu.
>>
>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
>>
>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
>> think.
>>
>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>>
>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>>
>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>>
>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>
>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open technology
>>
>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>
>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
>>
>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
>>
>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
>>
>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most advanced
>>
>> relational database system software.; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
>>
>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
>>
>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
>>
>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
>>
>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>>
>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
>>
>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
>>
>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
>>
>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
>>
>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
>>
>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
>>
>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
>>
>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
>>
>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
>>
>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
>>
>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
>>
>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
>>
>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
>>
>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
>>
>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
>>
>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>>
>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>>
>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
>>
>> be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>>
>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
>>
>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
>>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>.
I am closing this [DISCUSS] thread now and will start the VOTE shortly to graduate Apache AGE (incubating) as a top level project.
Best regards,
Eya
On 2021/12/13 21:04:30 Eya Badal wrote:
> Dear Everyone,
>
>
> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community with a
> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that Apache
> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
>
> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
>
> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
> project community has grown in the following areas:
>
>
> -
>
> Close to 900 commits
> -
>
> 68 unique contributors
> -
>
> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different companies/institutions
> -
>
> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> -
>
> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> -
>
> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers (mentors
> and PPMC members excluded)
>
>
> -
>
> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel,
> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines, Russia, South
> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> -
>
> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> -
>
> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of AGE.
> [5]
> -
>
> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> -
>
> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6] and
> didn't find any issues
>
>
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
>
> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
>
> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
> Releases menu.
>
> [4] https://age.apache.org/
>
> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
> the Documentation menu.
>
> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
>
> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> think.
>
> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Establish the Apache AGE Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>
> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>
> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>
> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open technology
>
> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
>
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
>
> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
>
> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most advanced
>
> relational database system software.; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
>
> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
>
> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
>
> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
>
> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
>
> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
>
> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
>
> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
>
> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
>
> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
>
> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
>
> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
>
> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
>
> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
>
> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
>
> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
>
> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
>
> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
>
> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
>
> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>
> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
>
> be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>
> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>
>
>
> Thank you for your time and consideration,
>
> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> Personally I thought code contributions were mandatory to be considered as being added to the PPMC team.
I would say not, the responsibilities of being a PPMC member includes a lot of things other than code and being good at just the code part doesn’t alway make you a good PPMC candidate. Anyone who has a wider community view should be considered as a candidate.
Kind Regards,
Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>.
> Non-code contributors are also candidates to be committers. They can do the many non-code activities.
>
> That is how I was able to join my first PMC over 13 years ago. Answering questions.
Personally I thought code contributions were mandatory to be considered as being added to the PPMC team. If that is not the case there are some contributors that are worth considering to make PPMC members. They have consistently reported issues, asked about future development, answering issues that others raise and being a very active member of the project.
> It seems like they should be invited as a committer.
We are considering adding the author as a committer. His contributions have been somewhat recent and we haven't had time to add him yet.
On 2021/12/17 23:32:12 Dave Fisher wrote:
>
>
> > On Dec 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Andrew Ko <an...@agedb.io> wrote:
> >
> > Hello John,
> >
> > The number 68 includes
> >
> > -
> >
> > 28 code contributors who submitted pull requests that were merged.
> > -
> >
> > 40+ who identified bugs, influenced the project with strong and informed
> > opinion, answered AGE users’ questions, helped with code snippets to
> > clarify how to use AGE.
>
> Non-code contributors are also candidates to be committers. They can do the many non-code activities.
>
> That is how I was able to join my first PMC over 13 years ago. Answering questions.
>
> >
> > Because of the nature of the project, committers require a broad range of
> > expertise in several areas including: Database (Postgres and SQL), Graph
> > Technology and Cyper, C language. While many contributors demonstrated
> > expertise in some areas, few had expertise in all disciplines. In addition
> > we restricted committer status to those who demonstrated consistent
> > contribution to the project over many months and across multiple and
> > diverse challenges. We felt this was the most prudent way to build a strong
> > and tight community.
>
> IMO - You are setting the committer bar too high. If the contributor has some expertise that’s good. Remember you want this project to survive for a long time. If you set it too high then people will lose interest.
>
> Many months is good.
>
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Andrew Ko
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 11:12 AM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> >> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are the
> >> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Willem,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> >>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a
> >>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will
> >> start
> >>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Eya
> >>>
> >>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> >>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> >>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> >>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> >>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> >>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> >>>> policies during the incubation process.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> >>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> >>>> [3]
> >>>
> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> >>>>
> >>>> Willem Jiang
> >>>>
> >>>> Twitter: willemjiang
> >>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> >>> with a
> >>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> >>> Apache
> >>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the
> >> AGE
> >>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Close to 900 commits
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 68 unique contributors
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> >>> companies/institutions
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> >>> (mentors
> >>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe
> >> including
> >>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> >>> Israel,
> >>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> >>> Russia, South
> >>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions
> >> of
> >>> AGE.
> >>>>> [5]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> >>> and
> >>>>> didn't find any issues
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
> >> the
> >>>>> Releases menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> >>> under
> >>>>> the Documentation menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> >>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what
> >> you
> >>>>> think.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
> >> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >>> establish
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> >>> maintenance
> >>>>>
> >>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> >>> technology
> >>>>>
> >>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> >>>>>
> >>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible
> >> for
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the
> >> most
> >>>>>
> >>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> >>> advanced
> >>>>>
> >>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and
> >> hereby
> >>>>>
> >>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
> >> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >>>>>
> >>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed
> >> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> >>> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >>>>>
> >>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> >> further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with
> >> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling;
> >> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>> be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> >> Incubator
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Young Seung (Andrew) Ko*
> > Chief Global Business Officer, AGEDB INC
> > Open Source Community for Graph on PostgreSQL, Apache AGE
> > <https://github.com/apache/incubator-age>
> > - *E* andrew.ko@agedb.io
> > - *M *+82-10-9465-1975
> > - My LinkedIn Profile <http://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-y-ko-17b546159>
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>.
Hello,
This is Trista, one of the AGE mentors from July this year. I didn't join this community from day one but like to share something about it.
After joining, Andrew, one committer of the community, contacted me that they wanted to have a meeting with me to talk about the community's developing and goals. So, I gave them many inputs and suggestions.
I have to say they really listened to my voice and made many efforts in this community. From the news [1], we can learn this community has a quick grow-up from August this year. More new committers joined, more releases launched. Here, thanks to the help from Craig, Justin, and Willem since I could see their guiding in private@age ml and this ml.
They looked lost at our first meeting, but I could see progress and willingness to create an active community these days. Also, they really took their actions. As one of their mentors, at least I could look at their feedback on my opinions, and they became familiar with the release process, knew the importance of people involved in the community.
However, the subproject is a surprising issue, so I'd like to listen to other IPMCs voices about it. Furthermore, thanks to IPMCs suggestions to AGE. @PPMC of AGE, please have closed eyes on them, some of which need to be settled down from my view.
[1] https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/age.html
2020-04-30 Project enters incubation.
2021/03/19 New Committer, Dehowe Feng
2021-02-19 First Apache AGE release v0.3.0.
2021-05-03 Apache AGE release v0.4.0.
2021/08/03 Apache AGE release v0.5.0.
2021/09/13 New Committer, Alex Kwak
2021/10/15 New Committer, Andrew Ko
2021/11/08 New Committer, Pieterjan De Potter
2021/11/15 New Committer, Nick Sorrell
2021/11/23 Apache AGE release v0.6.0 (New)
2021/12/07 New PMC, Dehowe Feng (New)
Best,
Trista
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Juan Pan(Trista), Twitter: @tristaZero
---- Replied Message ----
| From | Andrew Ko<an...@agedb.io> |
| Date | 12/18/2021 08:44 |
| To | general<ge...@incubator.apache.org> |
| Subject | Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project |
> IMO - You are setting the committer bar too high. If the contributor has
some expertise that’s good. Remember you want this project to survive for a
long time. If you set it too high then people will lose interest.
First of all, I didn't know non-code contributors can also become a
committer. :)
I believe AGE would not have come this far had it not been for non-code
contributors, especially users.
Graph technologies are still relatively new from a developer perspective
even though there are many hypes around for data insights and AI.
But I see many graph enthusiasts? in the community really wanting to help
others experience the benefit of graph.
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 8:32 AM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Dec 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Andrew Ko <an...@agedb.io> wrote:
> >
> > Hello John,
> >
> > The number 68 includes
> >
> > -
> >
> > 28 code contributors who submitted pull requests that were merged.
> > -
> >
> > 40+ who identified bugs, influenced the project with strong and
> informed
> > opinion, answered AGE users’ questions, helped with code snippets to
> > clarify how to use AGE.
>
> Non-code contributors are also candidates to be committers. They can do
> the many non-code activities.
>
> That is how I was able to join my first PMC over 13 years ago. Answering
> questions.
>
> >
> > Because of the nature of the project, committers require a broad range of
> > expertise in several areas including: Database (Postgres and SQL), Graph
> > Technology and Cyper, C language. While many contributors demonstrated
> > expertise in some areas, few had expertise in all disciplines. In
> addition
> > we restricted committer status to those who demonstrated consistent
> > contribution to the project over many months and across multiple and
> > diverse challenges. We felt this was the most prudent way to build a
> strong
> > and tight community.
>
> IMO - You are setting the committer bar too high. If the contributor has
> some expertise that’s good. Remember you want this project to survive for a
> long time. If you set it too high then people will lose interest.
>
> Many months is good.
>
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Andrew Ko
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 11:12 AM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> >> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are
> the
> >> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Willem,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> >>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is
> a
> >>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will
> >> start
> >>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Eya
> >>>
> >>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> >>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> >>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> >>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> >>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> >>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> >>>> policies during the incubation process.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> >>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> >>>> [3]
> >>>
> >>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> >>>>
> >>>> Willem Jiang
> >>>>
> >>>> Twitter: willemjiang
> >>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> >>> with a
> >>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> >>> Apache
> >>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the
> >> AGE
> >>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Close to 900 commits
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 68 unique contributors
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> >>> companies/institutions
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> >>> (mentors
> >>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe
> >> including
> >>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> >>> Israel,
> >>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> >>> Russia, South
> >>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions
> >> of
> >>> AGE.
> >>>>> [5]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> >>> and
> >>>>> didn't find any issues
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
> >> the
> >>>>> Releases menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> >>> under
> >>>>> the Documentation menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> >>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what
> >> you
> >>>>> think.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
> >> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >>> establish
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> >>> maintenance
> >>>>>
> >>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> >>> technology
> >>>>>
> >>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> >>>>>
> >>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible
> >> for
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the
> >> most
> >>>>>
> >>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> >>> advanced
> >>>>>
> >>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and
> >> hereby
> >>>>>
> >>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
> >> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >>>>>
> >>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed
> >> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> >>> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >>>>>
> >>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> >> further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with
> >> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling;
> >> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>> be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> >> Incubator
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Young Seung (Andrew) Ko*
> > Chief Global Business Officer, AGEDB INC
> > Open Source Community for Graph on PostgreSQL, Apache AGE
> > <https://github.com/apache/incubator-age>
> > - *E* andrew.ko@agedb.io
> > - *M *+82-10-9465-1975
> > - My LinkedIn Profile <http://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-y-ko-17b546159>
>
>
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>
--
*Young Seung (Andrew) Ko*
Chief Global Business Officer, AGEDB INC
Open Source Community for Graph on PostgreSQL, Apache AGE
<https://github.com/apache/incubator-age>
- *E* andrew.ko@agedb.io
- *M *+82-10-9465-1975
- My LinkedIn Profile <http://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-y-ko-17b546159>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Andrew Ko <an...@agedb.io>.
> IMO - You are setting the committer bar too high. If the contributor has
some expertise that’s good. Remember you want this project to survive for a
long time. If you set it too high then people will lose interest.
First of all, I didn't know non-code contributors can also become a
committer. :)
I believe AGE would not have come this far had it not been for non-code
contributors, especially users.
Graph technologies are still relatively new from a developer perspective
even though there are many hypes around for data insights and AI.
But I see many graph enthusiasts? in the community really wanting to help
others experience the benefit of graph.
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 8:32 AM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Dec 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Andrew Ko <an...@agedb.io> wrote:
> >
> > Hello John,
> >
> > The number 68 includes
> >
> > -
> >
> > 28 code contributors who submitted pull requests that were merged.
> > -
> >
> > 40+ who identified bugs, influenced the project with strong and
> informed
> > opinion, answered AGE users’ questions, helped with code snippets to
> > clarify how to use AGE.
>
> Non-code contributors are also candidates to be committers. They can do
> the many non-code activities.
>
> That is how I was able to join my first PMC over 13 years ago. Answering
> questions.
>
> >
> > Because of the nature of the project, committers require a broad range of
> > expertise in several areas including: Database (Postgres and SQL), Graph
> > Technology and Cyper, C language. While many contributors demonstrated
> > expertise in some areas, few had expertise in all disciplines. In
> addition
> > we restricted committer status to those who demonstrated consistent
> > contribution to the project over many months and across multiple and
> > diverse challenges. We felt this was the most prudent way to build a
> strong
> > and tight community.
>
> IMO - You are setting the committer bar too high. If the contributor has
> some expertise that’s good. Remember you want this project to survive for a
> long time. If you set it too high then people will lose interest.
>
> Many months is good.
>
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Andrew Ko
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 11:12 AM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> >> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are
> the
> >> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Willem,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> >>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is
> a
> >>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will
> >> start
> >>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Eya
> >>>
> >>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> >>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> >>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> >>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> >>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> >>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> >>>> policies during the incubation process.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> >>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> >>>> [3]
> >>>
> >>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> >>>>
> >>>> Willem Jiang
> >>>>
> >>>> Twitter: willemjiang
> >>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> >>> with a
> >>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> >>> Apache
> >>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the
> >> AGE
> >>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Close to 900 commits
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 68 unique contributors
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> >>> companies/institutions
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> >>> (mentors
> >>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe
> >> including
> >>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> >>> Israel,
> >>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> >>> Russia, South
> >>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions
> >> of
> >>> AGE.
> >>>>> [5]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> >>> and
> >>>>> didn't find any issues
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
> >> the
> >>>>> Releases menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> >>> under
> >>>>> the Documentation menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> >>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what
> >> you
> >>>>> think.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
> >> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >>> establish
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> >>> maintenance
> >>>>>
> >>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> >>> technology
> >>>>>
> >>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> >>>>>
> >>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible
> >> for
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the
> >> most
> >>>>>
> >>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> >>> advanced
> >>>>>
> >>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and
> >> hereby
> >>>>>
> >>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
> >> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >>>>>
> >>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed
> >> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> >>> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >>>>>
> >>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> >> further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with
> >> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling;
> >> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>> be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> >> Incubator
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> >>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
> On Dec 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Andrew Ko <an...@agedb.io> wrote:
>
> Hello John,
>
> The number 68 includes
>
> -
>
> 28 code contributors who submitted pull requests that were merged.
> -
>
> 40+ who identified bugs, influenced the project with strong and informed
> opinion, answered AGE users’ questions, helped with code snippets to
> clarify how to use AGE.
Non-code contributors are also candidates to be committers. They can do the many non-code activities.
That is how I was able to join my first PMC over 13 years ago. Answering questions.
>
> Because of the nature of the project, committers require a broad range of
> expertise in several areas including: Database (Postgres and SQL), Graph
> Technology and Cyper, C language. While many contributors demonstrated
> expertise in some areas, few had expertise in all disciplines. In addition
> we restricted committer status to those who demonstrated consistent
> contribution to the project over many months and across multiple and
> diverse challenges. We felt this was the most prudent way to build a strong
> and tight community.
IMO - You are setting the committer bar too high. If the contributor has some expertise that’s good. Remember you want this project to survive for a long time. If you set it too high then people will lose interest.
Many months is good.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew Ko
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 11:12 AM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
>> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are the
>> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Willem,
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
>>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a
>>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will
>> start
>>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Eya
>>>
>>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
>>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
>>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
>>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
>>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
>>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
>>>>
>>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
>>>> policies during the incubation process.
>>>>
>>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
>>>>
>>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
>>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
>>>> [3]
>>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
>>> with a
>>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
>>> Apache
>>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
>>>>>
>>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the
>> AGE
>>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Close to 900 commits
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> 68 unique contributors
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
>>> companies/institutions
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
>>> (mentors
>>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe
>> including
>>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
>>> Israel,
>>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
>>> Russia, South
>>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions
>> of
>>> AGE.
>>>>> [5]
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
>>> and
>>>>> didn't find any issues
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
>>>>>
>>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
>>>>>
>>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
>> the
>>>>> Releases menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
>>> under
>>>>> the Documentation menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
>>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what
>> you
>>>>> think.
>>>>>
>>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
>>>>>
>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
>> of
>>>>>
>>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>>> establish
>>>>>
>>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
>>> maintenance
>>>>>
>>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>>>>
>>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
>>> technology
>>>>>
>>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
>>>>>
>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
>>>>>
>>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible
>> for
>>>>>
>>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the
>> most
>>>>>
>>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
>>> advanced
>>>>>
>>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and
>> hereby
>>>>>
>>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
>> of
>>>>>
>>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
>>>>>
>>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
>>>>>
>>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>>>>>
>>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed
>> to
>>>>>
>>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
>>>>>
>>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>>>>>
>>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>> further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with
>> the
>>>>>
>>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling;
>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>> Incubator
>>>>>
>>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
>>>>>
>>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>.
> It best if the project documents this, so the expectations are clear to newcomers and potential committers.
Hello Justin,
As you advised and requested, the Apache AGE community discussed the AGE committer requirements and finalized the following.
Committer Requirements:
1-Continuous contributions to AGE:
Committers should have a decent amount of continuous engagements and contributions (fixing bugs, writing documentation, or answering community questions) to AGE either by contributing on GitHub Repos, documentation and mailing list, etc
+3 months with light activity and engagement.
+2 months of medium activity and engagement.
+1 month with solid activity and engagement.
2-Quality of contributions:
Well tested, well-designed, following Apache AGE coding standards, and simple patches.
3-Community involvement:
Committers should support the development and advancement of AGE in different areas. They should also be active on the dev and user list and help mentor newer contributors and users. They should also be active in the design road map discussions with a professional and diplomatic approach, even if there is a disagreement.
Please let us know if you have any questions.
Eya
On 2021/12/26 22:35:34 Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Could you clarify what would be considered too low of a bar for a committer?
>
> There isn’t one. Some projects allow you to be a committer by asking and some will vote you in after a couple of PRs. However each project can decide where this is.
>
> > I feel that we need good upper and lower bounds for this so that we are all on the same page on who qualifies to be a committer.
>
> It best if the project documents this, so the expectations are clear to newcomers and potential committers.
>
> > I would rather we don't bounce back and forth between, too high and too low.
>
> I don't think anyone would object if the bar was “too low”.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> Could you clarify what would be considered too low of a bar for a committer?
There isn’t one. Some projects allow you to be a committer by asking and some will vote you in after a couple of PRs. However each project can decide where this is.
> I feel that we need good upper and lower bounds for this so that we are all on the same page on who qualifies to be a committer.
It best if the project documents this, so the expectations are clear to newcomers and potential committers.
> I would rather we don't bounce back and forth between, too high and too low.
I don't think anyone would object if the bar was “too low”.
Kind Regards,
Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>.
Hi Justin, Felix, and others,
I keep hearing that the bar for a committer is too high for our project.
Could you clarify what would be considered too low of a bar for a committer? Or, if there is some document that I am not aware of that explains this, that would be great too.
I feel that we need good upper and lower bounds for this so that we are all on the same page on who qualifies to be a committer. Additionally, this way, when we submit a new committer, we can state the milestones that they have reached that makes us confident with them as a new committer and most would agree.
I would rather we don't bounce back and forth between, too high and too low.
Thanks!
John
On 2021/12/18 11:55:12 Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Because of the nature of the project, committers require a broad range of
> > expertise in several areas including: Database (Postgres and SQL), Graph
> > Technology and Cyper, C language. While many contributors demonstrated
> > expertise in some areas, few had expertise in all disciplines. In addition
> > we restricted committer status to those who demonstrated consistent
> > contribution to the project over many months and across multiple and
> > diverse challenges. We felt this was the most prudent way to build a strong
> > and tight community.
>
> IMO that bar is far too high, and I suggest the project needs to lower its bar. No one should have to be an expert in all areas to become a committer in a project. It would also be best to consider committers than contribute things other than code.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>.
> Then as per the Infra comment on that JIRA you should discuss it onlist and make sure you have consensus that the community wants that.
It has been discussed in the dev mailing list and with guidance from our mentor, Felix Cheung, it is being looked at by Apache infra at Jira.
The AGE docker has been pulled more than 1100 times from our contributor's docker hub repos.
On 2021/12/29 08:00:55 Justin Mclean wrote:
> HI,
>
> > The community would like to use Apache Dockerhub.
>
> Then as per the Infra comment on that JIRA you should discuss it onlist and make sure you have consensus that the community wants that.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@comcast.net>.
A slight correction in line.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 29, 2021, at 6:32 AM, Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
> After going through all the updates of this thread, here are some inputs from me,
>
>
> 1. PPMC voting, a NOTICE to board is needed.
While incubating the NOTICE is to the IPMC’s private@ mailing list.
> 2. Apache Dockerhub, a conclusion or voting result from the community is the prerequisite to ask for helps from Apache infra next.
> 3. It's necessary to keep Apache community independent from business.
This is critical and difficult.
> 4. The committer bar is primarily up to the community itself. The purpose of committer bar is to activate the community and encourage contributors. High bar discourages people, while sloppy one will cause the lowest motivation for the community.
> 5. Contributor or committer is not required to be the professional geeks. Any effort, time, or activities that help the community sustain or develop are counted. However, please present these contributions in public or onlist as much as possible.
> 6. It's firmly suggested to invite your mentors for this worthwhile but hard incubator process.
I wonder, the mentors should be following podling email. Is enough happening on the mailing lists?
All the Best,
Dave
>
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> HI,
>
> The community would like to use Apache Dockerhub.
>
> Then as per the Infra comment on that JIRA you should discuss it onlist and make sure you have consensus that the community wants that.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>.
Thank you Juan for your valuable feedback.
> 1. PPMC voting, a NOTICE to board is needed.
The NOTICE has been sent.
> 2. Apache Dockerhub, a conclusion or voting result from the community is the prerequisite to ask for helps from Apache infra next.
The DISCUSSION has been open since September and today I requested mentors again to take a look at it.
> 3. It's necessary to keep Apache community independent from business.
It is independent of business. The committers and PPMC members will be more diverse with a few more PPMC members and committers to hopefully join by accepting our invitation in a few days.
> 4. The committer bar is primarily up to the community itself. The purpose of committer bar is to activate the community and encourage contributors. High bar discourages people, while sloppy one will cause the lowest motivation for the community.
Agreed.
> 5. Contributor or committer is not required to be the professional geeks. Any effort, time, or activities that help the community sustain or develop are counted. However, please present these contributions in public or onlist as much as possible.
Agreed, we will continue to do so.
Best regards,
Eya
On 2021/12/29 14:31:45 Juan Pan wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> After going through all the updates of this thread, here are some inputs from me,
>
>
> 1. PPMC voting, a NOTICE to board is needed.
> 2. Apache Dockerhub, a conclusion or voting result from the community is the prerequisite to ask for helps from Apache infra next.
> 3. It's necessary to keep Apache community independent from business.
> 4. The committer bar is primarily up to the community itself. The purpose of committer bar is to activate the community and encourage contributors. High bar discourages people, while sloppy one will cause the lowest motivation for the community.
> 5. Contributor or committer is not required to be the professional geeks. Any effort, time, or activities that help the community sustain or develop are counted. However, please present these contributions in public or onlist as much as possible.
> 6. It's firmly suggested to invite your mentors for this worthwhile but hard incubator process.
>
>
> Best,
> Trista
>
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>
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> On 12/29/2021 16:00，Justin Mclean<ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote：
> HI,
>
> The community would like to use Apache Dockerhub.
>
> Then as per the Infra comment on that JIRA you should discuss it onlist and make sure you have consensus that the community wants that.
>
> Kind Regards,
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>.
Hello Craig,
Thanks for your feedback, which made us feel welcomed, encouraged, and more willing to interact in different communities. ;-)
Regards,
Trista
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Hi Trista,
I appreciate the time and energy you personally put into your role here.
Warm regards,
Craig
On Dec 29, 2021, at 6:31 AM, Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org> wrote:
Hello,
After going through all the updates of this thread, here are some inputs from me,
1. PPMC voting, a NOTICE to board is needed.
2. Apache Dockerhub, a conclusion or voting result from the community is the prerequisite to ask for helps from Apache infra next.
3. It's necessary to keep Apache community independent from business.
4. The committer bar is primarily up to the community itself. The purpose of committer bar is to activate the community and encourage contributors. High bar discourages people, while sloppy one will cause the lowest motivation for the community.
5. Contributor or committer is not required to be the professional geeks. Any effort, time, or activities that help the community sustain or develop are counted. However, please present these contributions in public or onlist as much as possible.
6. It's firmly suggested to invite your mentors for this worthwhile but hard incubator process.
Best,
Trista
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HI,
The community would like to use Apache Dockerhub.
Then as per the Infra comment on that JIRA you should discuss it onlist and make sure you have consensus that the community wants that.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>.
Hi Trista,
I appreciate the time and energy you personally put into your role here.
Warm regards,
Craig
> On Dec 29, 2021, at 6:31 AM, Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
> After going through all the updates of this thread, here are some inputs from me,
>
>
> 1. PPMC voting, a NOTICE to board is needed.
> 2. Apache Dockerhub, a conclusion or voting result from the community is the prerequisite to ask for helps from Apache infra next.
> 3. It's necessary to keep Apache community independent from business.
> 4. The committer bar is primarily up to the community itself. The purpose of committer bar is to activate the community and encourage contributors. High bar discourages people, while sloppy one will cause the lowest motivation for the community.
> 5. Contributor or committer is not required to be the professional geeks. Any effort, time, or activities that help the community sustain or develop are counted. However, please present these contributions in public or onlist as much as possible.
> 6. It's firmly suggested to invite your mentors for this worthwhile but hard incubator process.
>
>
> Best,
> Trista
>
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>
>
> On 12/29/2021 16:00，Justin Mclean<ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote：
> HI,
>
> The community would like to use Apache Dockerhub.
>
> Then as per the Infra comment on that JIRA you should discuss it onlist and make sure you have consensus that the community wants that.
>
> Kind Regards,
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>.
Hello,
After going through all the updates of this thread, here are some inputs from me,
1. PPMC voting, a NOTICE to board is needed.
2. Apache Dockerhub, a conclusion or voting result from the community is the prerequisite to ask for helps from Apache infra next.
3. It's necessary to keep Apache community independent from business.
4. The committer bar is primarily up to the community itself. The purpose of committer bar is to activate the community and encourage contributors. High bar discourages people, while sloppy one will cause the lowest motivation for the community.
5. Contributor or committer is not required to be the professional geeks. Any effort, time, or activities that help the community sustain or develop are counted. However, please present these contributions in public or onlist as much as possible.
6. It's firmly suggested to invite your mentors for this worthwhile but hard incubator process.
Best,
Trista
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
HI,
> The community would like to use Apache Dockerhub.
Then as per the Infra comment on that JIRA you should discuss it onlist and make sure you have consensus that the community wants that.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>.
Hi Justin,
The community would like to use Apache Dockerhub.
In June, I opened a Jira ticket to have AGE available at the Apache Dockerhub and the ticket was closed by Apache Infra without a resolution.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22024
https://hub.docker.com/u/apache
Best regards,
Eya
On 2021/12/26 22:42:46 Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > - A new PPMC member is not being added in the correct way → Are there any
> > additional steps that need to be taken to complete this process?
>
> A NOTICE needs to be sent before adding any new PPMC/PMC member to the roster. [1]
>
> > The docker image is available at
> > https://hub.docker.com/repository/docker/joefagan/incubator-age and a link
> > is provided on the website on the Releases page.
>
> Is there any reason you are not using https://hub.docker.com/u/apache?
>
> > Agedb is a US startup (incorporated in California May this year) and is
> > affiliated with Bitnine Global, who contributed the original AGE source
> > codes to the Apache Software Foundation.
>
> This may be an issue trademark and naming wise as it is similar to the Apache project name.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html#voting_in_a_new_ppmc_member
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>.
On 2021/12/26 22:42:46 Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > - A new PPMC member is not being added in the correct way → Are there any
> > additional steps that need to be taken to complete this process?
>
> A NOTICE needs to be sent before adding any new PPMC/PMC member to the roster. [1]
>
> > The docker image is available at
> > https://hub.docker.com/repository/docker/joefagan/incubator-age and a link
> > is provided on the website on the Releases page.
>
> Is there any reason you are not using https://hub.docker.com/u/apache?
>
>Hi Justin,
>
>The community would like to use it.
>In June, I opened a Jira ticket to have AGE available at the Apache Dockerhub and the ticket >was closed by Apache Infra without a resolution.
>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22024
>https://hub.docker.com/u/apache
>Best regards,
>Eya
> > Agedb is a US startup (incorporated in California May this year) and is
> > affiliated with Bitnine Global, who contributed the original AGE source
> > codes to the Apache Software Foundation.
>
> This may be an issue trademark and naming wise as it is similar to the Apache project name.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html#voting_in_a_new_ppmc_member
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>.
Hi Andrew,
> On Dec 27, 2021, at 9:09 PM, Andrew Ko <an...@agedb.io> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
> Please guide if the ICLA form needs to be resubmitted to the secretary to
> update the existing (@agedb.io) email address.
New ICLAs are not often needed, even when their email addresses change.
Users with Apache ids can change their forwarding email address themselves via id.apache.org . If they fail to change and their agedb.io addresses become invalid, they will need to file new ICLAs.
I only found one reference to agedb.io in our ICLA records...
Warm regards,
Craig
>
> Thank you
> Andrew Ko
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Andrew Ko <an...@agedb.io>.
Hello,
> Agedb is a US startup (incorporated in California May this year) and is
> affiliated with Bitnine Global, who contributed the original AGE source
> codes to the Apache Software Foundation.
> This may be an issue trademark and naming wise as it is similar to the
Apache project name.
Discussed internally with the AgeDB and Bitnine managements and they have
decided to change the name of the company from AgeDB to something
distinctively different from the Apache project name to avoid potential
trademark and other legal issues.
The name change process has started and the name AgeDB will not be used in
any operation alongside the @agedb.io email addresses before the current
week ends.
Please guide if the ICLA form needs to be resubmitted to the secretary to
update the existing (@agedb.io) email address.
Thank you
Andrew Ko
On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 7:43 AM Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > - A new PPMC member is not being added in the correct way → Are there any
> > additional steps that need to be taken to complete this process?
>
> A NOTICE needs to be sent before adding any new PPMC/PMC member to the
> roster. [1]
>
> > The docker image is available at
> > https://hub.docker.com/repository/docker/joefagan/incubator-age and a
> link
> > is provided on the website on the Releases page.
>
> Is there any reason you are not using https://hub.docker.com/u/apache?
>
> > Agedb is a US startup (incorporated in California May this year) and is
> > affiliated with Bitnine Global, who contributed the original AGE source
> > codes to the Apache Software Foundation.
>
> This may be an issue trademark and naming wise as it is similar to the
> Apache project name.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
>
> 1.
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html#voting_in_a_new_ppmc_member
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> - A new PPMC member is not being added in the correct way → Are there any
> additional steps that need to be taken to complete this process?
A NOTICE needs to be sent before adding any new PPMC/PMC member to the roster. [1]
> The docker image is available at
> https://hub.docker.com/repository/docker/joefagan/incubator-age and a link
> is provided on the website on the Releases page.
Is there any reason you are not using https://hub.docker.com/u/apache?
> Agedb is a US startup (incorporated in California May this year) and is
> affiliated with Bitnine Global, who contributed the original AGE source
> codes to the Apache Software Foundation.
This may be an issue trademark and naming wise as it is similar to the Apache project name.
Kind Regards,
Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Eya Badal Abdisho <ey...@bitnine.net>.
Hello Justin,
Thank you for your feedback. Please find more information following:
- Indications that the committer/PPMC bar may be too high and not all forms
of contribution recognized → Comment noted. We will no longer insist that
committers are code contributors.
- A new PPMC member is not being added in the correct way → Are there any
additional steps that need to be taken to complete this process?
- Other than that recent addition no other PPMC members added → The voting
process for Pieterjan De Potter (Ghent University) and Nick Sorrell (Cintio
Ltd) to become PPMC members will begin immediately.
- May be some concern about the employment diversity of the PPMC members.
The proposed new PPMC members above are not affiliated with any other PPMC
in any way.
-
John Gemignani [Bitnine] → Initial member of the project at the time of
donation
-
Josh Innis [Bitnine] → Initial member of the project at the time of
donation
-
Eya Badal [Bitnine] → Initial member of the project at the time of
donation
-
Mason Sharp [Immuta] → Initial member of the project at the time of
donation
-
Jasper Blues [Libration Data] → Initial member of the project at the
time of donation
-
Dehowe Feng [Bitnine]
-
Pieterjan De Potter [Ghent university] → Soon to be PPMC
-
Nick Sorrell [Cintio] → Soon to be PPMC
- Issues with headers and licensing a few months back → All were fixed at
the time when 0.6.0 was released.
-People not signed up to the right mailing lists → All the active people
did. Jasper (initial member) and Mason (initial member) have been mainly
following and supporting the project and will sign up to the mailing lists.
Raphael (mentor) and Suneel (mentor) have not been active at all.
- I see in the maturity guide under releases it mentions docker files but
these don’t seem to be documented on the website? Where are these located?
This related JIRA is a little concerning [1].
The docker image is available at
https://hub.docker.com/repository/docker/joefagan/incubator-age and a link
is provided on the website on the Releases page. The image (>800MB) cannot
reside on age.apache.org because it exceeds the file size limit of 25MB.
- There are some minor trademark issues on the Bitnine site e.g [2] → All
will be fixed in a day.
- Releases of Age-viewer not following ASF policy → The first official
Apache release for the Age-viewer is in the voting process and it follows
the ASF policy.
- Links to download 0.5.0 and 0.6.0 on the download page are not correct
[3] They are fixed now
- I notice one person who replied to this thread had a agedb.io email
address - what is it relationship with the project?
Agedb is a US startup (incorporated in California May this year) and is
affiliated with Bitnine Global, who contributed the original AGE source
codes to the Apache Software Foundation. The purpose of Agedb is not yet
clearly defined but it is expected to be to provide graph database
solutions and related services.
The agedb.io email address belongs to Andrew Ko (also a consultant to
Bitnine) who is one of the committers. He has been helping the project,
consulting on the roadmap and website, and nurturing technical
collaboration with other Big Data related Apache projects.
Thank you very much again for your time and support.
Eya
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 3:55 AM Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Because of the nature of the project, committers require a broad range of
> > expertise in several areas including: Database (Postgres and SQL), Graph
> > Technology and Cyper, C language. While many contributors demonstrated
> > expertise in some areas, few had expertise in all disciplines. In
> addition
> > we restricted committer status to those who demonstrated consistent
> > contribution to the project over many months and across multiple and
> > diverse challenges. We felt this was the most prudent way to build a
> strong
> > and tight community.
>
> IMO that bar is far too high, and I suggest the project needs to lower its
> bar. No one should have to be an expert in all areas to become a committer
> in a project. It would also be best to consider committers than contribute
> things other than code.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> Because of the nature of the project, committers require a broad range of
> expertise in several areas including: Database (Postgres and SQL), Graph
> Technology and Cyper, C language. While many contributors demonstrated
> expertise in some areas, few had expertise in all disciplines. In addition
> we restricted committer status to those who demonstrated consistent
> contribution to the project over many months and across multiple and
> diverse challenges. We felt this was the most prudent way to build a strong
> and tight community.
IMO that bar is far too high, and I suggest the project needs to lower its bar. No one should have to be an expert in all areas to become a committer in a project. It would also be best to consider committers than contribute things other than code.
Kind Regards,
Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Andrew Ko <an...@agedb.io>.
Hello John,
The number 68 includes
-
28 code contributors who submitted pull requests that were merged.
-
40+ who identified bugs, influenced the project with strong and informed
opinion, answered AGE users’ questions, helped with code snippets to
clarify how to use AGE.
Because of the nature of the project, committers require a broad range of
expertise in several areas including: Database (Postgres and SQL), Graph
Technology and Cyper, C language. While many contributors demonstrated
expertise in some areas, few had expertise in all disciplines. In addition
we restricted committer status to those who demonstrated consistent
contribution to the project over many months and across multiple and
diverse challenges. We felt this was the most prudent way to build a strong
and tight community.
Regards
Andrew Ko
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 11:12 AM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi
>
> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are the
> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
>
> John
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello Willem,
> >
> > Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> > Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a
> > sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will
> start
> > the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Eya
> >
> > On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> > > even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> > > I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> > > addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> > > The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> > > of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> > >
> > > It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> > > policies during the incubation process.
> > >
> > > Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> > >
> > > [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> > > [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> > > [3]
> >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang
> > >
> > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Everyone,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> > with a
> > > > vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> > Apache
> > > > AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> > > >
> > > > We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> > > >
> > > > In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the
> AGE
> > > > project community has grown in the following areas:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > >
> > > > Close to 900 commits
> > > > -
> > > >
> > > > 68 unique contributors
> > > > -
> > > >
> > > > 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> > companies/institutions
> > > > -
> > > >
> > > > Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> > > > -
> > > >
> > > > 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> > > > -
> > > >
> > > > 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> > (mentors
> > > > and PPMC members excluded)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > >
> > > > Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe
> including
> > > > Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> > Israel,
> > > > Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> > Russia, South
> > > > Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> > > > -
> > > >
> > > > Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> > > > -
> > > >
> > > > Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions
> of
> > AGE.
> > > > [5]
> > > > -
> > > >
> > > > Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> > > > -
> > > >
> > > > Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> > and
> > > > didn't find any issues
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> > > >
> > > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> > > >
> > > > [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
> the
> > > > Releases menu.
> > > >
> > > > [4] https://age.apache.org/
> > > >
> > > > [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> > under
> > > > the Documentation menu.
> > > >
> > > > [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> > > > <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> > > >
> > > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what
> you
> > > > think.
> > > >
> > > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Establish the Apache AGE Project
> > > >
> > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
> of
> > > >
> > > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> > establish
> > > >
> > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> > maintenance
> > > >
> > > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > > >
> > > > related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> > technology
> > > >
> > > > with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> > > >
> > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > > >
> > > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> > > >
> > > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > > >
> > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible
> for
> > > >
> > > > the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the
> most
> > > >
> > > > widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> > advanced
> > > >
> > > > relational database system software.; and be it further
> > > >
> > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and
> hereby
> > > >
> > > > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
> of
> > > >
> > > > the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> > > >
> > > > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> > > >
> > > > scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> > > >
> > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > > >
> > > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> > > >
> > > > * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> > > >
> > > > * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> > > >
> > > > * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> > > >
> > > > * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> > > >
> > > > * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> > > >
> > > > * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> > > >
> > > > * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> > > >
> > > > * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> > > >
> > > > * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> > > >
> > > > * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> > > >
> > > > * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> > > >
> > > > * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> > > >
> > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed
> to
> > > >
> > > > the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> > > >
> > > > and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> > of
> > > >
> > > > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > > >
> > > > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> further
> > > >
> > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with
> the
> > > >
> > > > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling;
> and
> > > >
> > > > be it further
> > > >
> > > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator
> > > >
> > > > AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your time and consideration,
> > > >
> > > > Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>.
> >> (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list.
> > All the PPMC members should now be subscribed to the private mailing list.
> This is still not the case.
I believe the only members that are not subscribed are removed from the resolution due to their inactivity.
> >> (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
>
> There are still issues here.
The only PPMC member that has not mapped the apache id to their GitHub id is the inactive member and has been removed from the resolution.
On 2022/01/06 06:31:08 Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> >> (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list.
> > All the PPMC members should now be subscribed to the private mailing list.
>
> This is still not the case.
>
> >> (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
> > We have just added two new PPMC members
>
> However they were not added in the correct way.
>
> >> (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
>
> There are still issues here.
>
> >> (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that indicates they are not. [1]
>
> This is still an issue as far as I can see.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>.
Hi Justin,
> >> (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that indicates they are not. [1]
>
> This is still an issue as far as I can see.
The PR that fixes the licenses for the Python and Go drivers has been reviewed and merged into master. The original license issue was resolved during the previous release. This PR was resolving a new license issue that we were trying to fix before the next release.
On 2022/01/06 06:31:08 Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> >> (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list.
> > All the PPMC members should now be subscribed to the private mailing list.
>
> This is still not the case.
>
> >> (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
> > We have just added two new PPMC members
>
> However they were not added in the correct way.
>
> >> (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
>
> There are still issues here.
>
> >> (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that indicates they are not. [1]
>
> This is still an issue as far as I can see.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by ju...@classsoftware.com.
H,
>>> (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
>> We have just added two new PPMC members
>
> However they were not added in the correct way.
My apologies, I made a mistake, they were added in the correct way.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
>> (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list.
> All the PPMC members should now be subscribed to the private mailing list.
This is still not the case.
>> (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
> We have just added two new PPMC members
However they were not added in the correct way.
>> (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
There are still issues here.
>> (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that indicates they are not. [1]
This is still an issue as far as I can see.
Kind Regards,
Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>.
> (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list.
All the PPMC members should now be subscribed to the private mailing list.
> (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
We have just added two new PPMC members (Nick Sorrell from Cintio and Pieterjan De Potter from Ghent University ) in addition to Dehowe Feng who became a PPMC member a few months ago.
On 2021/12/17 18:28:51 Dave Fisher wrote:
> Four more concerns:
>
> (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list.
>
> (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
>
> (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
>
> (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that indicates they are not. [1]
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/150
>
> > On Dec 16, 2021, at 6:11 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> > contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are the
> > numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Willem,
> >>
> >> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> >> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a
> >> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will start
> >> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Eya
> >>
> >> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> >>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> >>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> >>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> >>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> >>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> >>>
> >>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> >>> policies during the incubation process.
> >>>
> >>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> >>>
> >>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> >>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> >>> [3]
> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> >>>
> >>> Willem Jiang
> >>>
> >>> Twitter: willemjiang
> >>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> >> with a
> >>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> >> Apache
> >>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> >>>>
> >>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> >>>>
> >>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
> >>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Close to 900 commits
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> 68 unique contributors
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> >> companies/institutions
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> >> (mentors
> >>>> and PPMC members excluded)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> >>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> >> Israel,
> >>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> >> Russia, South
> >>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
> >> AGE.
> >>>> [5]
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> >> and
> >>>> didn't find any issues
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> >>>>
> >>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> >>>>
> >>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
> >>>> Releases menu.
> >>>>
> >>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
> >>>>
> >>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> >> under
> >>>> the Documentation menu.
> >>>>
> >>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> >>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> >>>> think.
> >>>>
> >>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
> >>>>
> >>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> >>>>
> >>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >> establish
> >>>>
> >>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> >> maintenance
> >>>>
> >>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >>>>
> >>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> >> technology
> >>>>
> >>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> >>>>
> >>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >>>>
> >>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> >>>>
> >>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>
> >>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
> >>>>
> >>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
> >>>>
> >>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> >> advanced
> >>>>
> >>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
> >>>>
> >>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
> >>>>
> >>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
> >>>>
> >>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> >>>>
> >>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> >>>>
> >>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> >>>>
> >>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >>>>
> >>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> >>>>
> >>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
> >>>>
> >>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> >>>>
> >>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> >> of
> >>>>
> >>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >>>>
> >>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>>
> >>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> >>>>
> >>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
> >>>>
> >>>> be it further
> >>>>
> >>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> >>>>
> >>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
> >>>>
> >>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> >>>
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> >>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>.
The community should definitely fix/address these.
As for Committer bar, the community should review the contributors to look
for sustained contributors that should be voted in. PPMC should discuss
this.
I couldn’t find anything about @agedb.io - can Andrew explain the
connection? At least, this might be a branding / trademark issue that the
PPMC should sort out.
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 12:39 AM Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I’m seeing some issues here:
> - Indications that the committer/PPMC bar may be too high and not all
> forms of contribution recognised.
> - A new PPMC member not being added in the correct way
> - Other than that recent addition no other PPMC members added
> - May be some concern about employment diversity of the PPMC members
> - Issues with headers and licensing a few months back
> - People not signed up to the right mailing lists
> - I see in the maturity guide under releases it mentions docker files but
> these don’t seem to be documented on the website? Where are these located?
> This related JIRA is a little concerning [1].
> - There are some minor trademark issues on the bitnine site e.g [2]
> - Releases of Age-viewer not following ASF policy
> - Links to download 0.5.0 and 0.6.0 on the download page are not correct
> [3]
> - I notice one person replied to this thread had a agedb.io email address
> - what is it relationship with the project?
>
> It would be great if I could get some mentor feedback here t see if these
> are just just minor issues or if some more work needs o be done before the
> project should consider graduation.
>
> Kind Regards.
> Justin
>
> 1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22024
> 2. https://bitnine.net/blog-postgresql/thestack-apache-age/
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
I’m seeing some issues here:
- Indications that the committer/PPMC bar may be too high and not all forms of contribution recognised.
- A new PPMC member not being added in the correct way
- Other than that recent addition no other PPMC members added
- May be some concern about employment diversity of the PPMC members
- Issues with headers and licensing a few months back
- People not signed up to the right mailing lists
- I see in the maturity guide under releases it mentions docker files but these don’t seem to be documented on the website? Where are these located? This related JIRA is a little concerning [1].
- There are some minor trademark issues on the bitnine site e.g [2]
- Releases of Age-viewer not following ASF policy
- Links to download 0.5.0 and 0.6.0 on the download page are not correct [3]
- I notice one person replied to this thread had a agedb.io email address - what is it relationship with the project?
It would be great if I could get some mentor feedback here t see if these are just just minor issues or if some more work needs o be done before the project should consider graduation.
Kind Regards.
Justin
1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22024
2. https://bitnine.net/blog-postgresql/thestack-apache-age/
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
>> Regarding (3), Dehowe Feng was added to the PPMC on 12/6/2021 [1].
>
> Oh I see, but he is a BitNine employee. Add increases the concern that AGE is not a diverse community.
He was also added without sending NOTICE to the IPMC. It seems he was added based only on code commits, I would expect the vote and discussion to include mention of wider community involvement.
Kind Regards,
Justin
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
> On Dec 17, 2021, at 3:11 PM, Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Regarding (3), Dehowe Feng was added to the PPMC on 12/6/2021 [1].
Oh I see, but he is a BitNine employee. Add increases the concern that AGE is not a diverse community.
>
> Regarding (4), all the files involved in the issue we had in the last release have the correct headers. The open pull request is not about the original license issue. Since the previous release, a Python and Go driver were added to the project. The original pull request did not include the license and the author of the drivers has added the licenses. None of the files involved in that PR have been involved in a release. The PR with the licenses has not been merged to the repository yet because it also includes logic changes that must be reviewed.
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/7428n0p4hwf6lv4v3n9fldqt4wjp6omd
It seems like they should be invited as a committer.
>
>
> On 2021/12/17 18:28:51 Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Four more concerns:
>>
>> (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list.
>>
>> (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
>>
>> (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
>>
>> (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that indicates they are not. [1]
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/150
>>
>>> On Dec 16, 2021, at 6:11 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
>>> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are the
>>> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Willem,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
>>>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a
>>>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will start
>>>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Eya
>>>>
>>>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
>>>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
>>>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
>>>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
>>>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
>>>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
>>>>> policies during the incubation process.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
>>>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
>>>>> [3]
>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
>>>> with a
>>>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
>>>> Apache
>>>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
>>>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Close to 900 commits
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 68 unique contributors
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
>>>> companies/institutions
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
>>>> (mentors
>>>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
>>>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
>>>> Israel,
>>>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
>>>> Russia, South
>>>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
>>>> AGE.
>>>>>> [5]
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
>>>> and
>>>>>> didn't find any issues
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
>>>>>> Releases menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
>>>> under
>>>>>> the Documentation menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
>>>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
>>>>>> think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>>>> establish
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
>>>> maintenance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
>>>> technology
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
>>>>>>
>>>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
>>>> advanced
>>>>>>
>>>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>>>>>>
>>>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
>>>> of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>.
Hi Dave,
Regarding (3), Dehowe Feng was added to the PPMC on 12/6/2021 [1].
Regarding (4), all the files involved in the issue we had in the last release have the correct headers. The open pull request is not about the original license issue. Since the previous release, a Python and Go driver were added to the project. The original pull request did not include the license and the author of the drivers has added the licenses. None of the files involved in that PR have been involved in a release. The PR with the licenses has not been merged to the repository yet because it also includes logic changes that must be reviewed.
[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/7428n0p4hwf6lv4v3n9fldqt4wjp6omd
On 2021/12/17 18:28:51 Dave Fisher wrote:
> Four more concerns:
>
> (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list.
>
> (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
>
> (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
>
> (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that indicates they are not. [1]
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/150
>
> > On Dec 16, 2021, at 6:11 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> > contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are the
> > numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Willem,
> >>
> >> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> >> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a
> >> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will start
> >> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Eya
> >>
> >> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> >>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> >>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> >>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> >>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> >>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> >>>
> >>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> >>> policies during the incubation process.
> >>>
> >>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> >>>
> >>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> >>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> >>> [3]
> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> >>>
> >>> Willem Jiang
> >>>
> >>> Twitter: willemjiang
> >>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> >> with a
> >>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> >> Apache
> >>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> >>>>
> >>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> >>>>
> >>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
> >>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Close to 900 commits
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> 68 unique contributors
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> >> companies/institutions
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> >> (mentors
> >>>> and PPMC members excluded)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> >>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> >> Israel,
> >>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> >> Russia, South
> >>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
> >> AGE.
> >>>> [5]
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> >> and
> >>>> didn't find any issues
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> >>>>
> >>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> >>>>
> >>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
> >>>> Releases menu.
> >>>>
> >>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
> >>>>
> >>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> >> under
> >>>> the Documentation menu.
> >>>>
> >>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> >>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> >>>> think.
> >>>>
> >>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
> >>>>
> >>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> >>>>
> >>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >> establish
> >>>>
> >>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> >> maintenance
> >>>>
> >>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >>>>
> >>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> >> technology
> >>>>
> >>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> >>>>
> >>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >>>>
> >>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> >>>>
> >>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>
> >>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
> >>>>
> >>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
> >>>>
> >>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> >> advanced
> >>>>
> >>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
> >>>>
> >>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
> >>>>
> >>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
> >>>>
> >>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> >>>>
> >>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> >>>>
> >>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> >>>>
> >>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >>>>
> >>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> >>>>
> >>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
> >>>>
> >>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> >>>>
> >>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> >> of
> >>>>
> >>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >>>>
> >>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>>
> >>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> >>>>
> >>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
> >>>>
> >>>> be it further
> >>>>
> >>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> >>>>
> >>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
> >>>>
> >>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>.
Hello Craig,
Jasper Blues and Nick Sorrell have subscribed to the private mailing list. John Gemignani and I also fixed the issues mentioned earlier.
As I mentioned before, Mason Sharp and Raphael Bircher have been inactive and not replying. We removed Mason Sharp and Raphael Bircher from the resolution and would like to remove them from the project as well.
Best regards,
Eya
On 2022/01/08 04:17:26 Craig Russell wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It looks like the project whimsy page shows some concerns highlighted below.
> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/age
>
> > On Dec 17, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Four more concerns:
> >
> > (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list.
> >
> Jasper Blues?
> Mason Sharp?
> Raphael Bircher?
>
>
> > (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
> >
> • eya.abdisho@bitnine.net (not recognised)
> • john.gemignani@bitnine.net (not recognised)
>
> > (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
> >
> > (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that indicates they are not. [1]
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/150
> >
> >> On Dec 16, 2021, at 6:11 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> >> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are the
> >> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Willem,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> >>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a
> >>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will start
> >>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Eya
> >>>
> >>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> >>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> >>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> >>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> >>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> >>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> >>>> policies during the incubation process.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> >>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> >>>> [3]
> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> >>>>
> >>>> Willem Jiang
> >>>>
> >>>> Twitter: willemjiang
> >>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> >>> with a
> >>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> >>> Apache
> >>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
> >>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Close to 900 commits
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 68 unique contributors
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> >>> companies/institutions
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> >>> (mentors
> >>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> >>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> >>> Israel,
> >>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> >>> Russia, South
> >>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
> >>> AGE.
> >>>>> [5]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> >>> and
> >>>>> didn't find any issues
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
> >>>>> Releases menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> >>> under
> >>>>> the Documentation menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> >>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> >>>>> think.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >>> establish
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> >>> maintenance
> >>>>>
> >>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> >>> technology
> >>>>>
> >>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> >>>>>
> >>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
> >>>>>
> >>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> >>> advanced
> >>>>>
> >>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
> >>>>>
> >>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >>>>>
> >>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> >>> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >>>>>
> >>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
> >>>>>
> >>>>> be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
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> >
>
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> clr@apache.org
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>.
Hi Folks,
I'm subscribed to the public and private mailing lists. I've been a long time supported of the project and collaborate with BitNine on both AgensGraph and Apache AGE.
More generally am a graph database expert having run my own company (Liberation Data), worked with GraphAware, and as a developer on eg Neo4j OGM and related open-source graph projects.
I'm now becoming more exclusively aligned with Bitnine and Apache AGE.
On 2022/01/08 04:17:26 Craig Russell wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It looks like the project whimsy page shows some concerns highlighted below.
> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/age
>
> > On Dec 17, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Four more concerns:
> >
> > (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list.
> >
> Jasper Blues?
> Mason Sharp?
> Raphael Bircher?
>
>
> > (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
> >
> • eya.abdisho@bitnine.net (not recognised)
> • john.gemignani@bitnine.net (not recognised)
>
> > (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
> >
> > (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that indicates they are not. [1]
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/150
> >
> >> On Dec 16, 2021, at 6:11 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> >> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are the
> >> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Willem,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> >>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a
> >>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will start
> >>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Eya
> >>>
> >>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> >>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> >>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> >>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> >>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> >>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> >>>> policies during the incubation process.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> >>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> >>>> [3]
> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> >>>>
> >>>> Willem Jiang
> >>>>
> >>>> Twitter: willemjiang
> >>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> >>> with a
> >>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> >>> Apache
> >>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
> >>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Close to 900 commits
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 68 unique contributors
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> >>> companies/institutions
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> >>> (mentors
> >>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> >>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> >>> Israel,
> >>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> >>> Russia, South
> >>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
> >>> AGE.
> >>>>> [5]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> >>> and
> >>>>> didn't find any issues
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
> >>>>> Releases menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> >>> under
> >>>>> the Documentation menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> >>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> >>>>> think.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >>> establish
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> >>> maintenance
> >>>>>
> >>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> >>> technology
> >>>>>
> >>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> >>>>>
> >>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
> >>>>>
> >>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> >>> advanced
> >>>>>
> >>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
> >>>>>
> >>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >>>>>
> >>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> >>> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >>>>>
> >>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
> >>>>>
> >>>>> be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >
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> >
>
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> clr@apache.org
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>.
I have added my bitnine.net email address.
John
On 2022/01/09 16:58:38 Eya Badal wrote:
> > John needs to add his address and Eya needs to correct the typo.
> I still do not understand how Bitnine email can cause an issue. The primary email address that I used to subscribe to @private is badaleya@gmail and eya@apacge.org, and I used badaleya@gmail from day one. I added the bitnine email recently to be safe. Anyhow, I just fixed the typo.
>
> On 2022/01/08 22:52:59 sebb wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 20:46, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Josh,
> > >
> > > > On Jan 8, 2022, at 7:45 AM, Josh Innis <jo...@bitnine.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Craig,
> > > >
> > > > John Gemingnani (john.gemignani@bitnine.net) is mapped to the github
> > > > address jrgemignani. If John isn't getting credit for his work: we need to
> > > > fix this immediately.
> > >
> > > The problem here is that John is subscribed to the private list as john.gemignani@bitnine.net but his profile at id.apache.org only shows his gmail email address.
> > > He can fix this at id.apache.org.
> >
> > Or using Whimsy
> >
> > > > Same with Eya (Eya is mapped to: eyab
> > > > eya.abdisho@bitnine.net).
> > >
> > > It looks like Eya's profile at id.apache.org has a typo in her email "btinine" address.
> > >
> > > > I don't understand how they are not mapped. John
> > > > and Eya have been here from the beginning and if they are not getting
> > > > credit for their years of work on Apache AGE: please let us know. I am
> > > > confused to see their names on the list of PPMC members who have not linked
> > > > their apache id to their Github id, because I remember all of us doing so
> > > > and all of us have had a multi-year long influence on the project.
> > >
> > > The problem is not that they are not getting credit for their contributions but that the email addresses subscribed to the private list are not in their profile at id.apache.org.
> >
> > AFAICT they are both subscribed twice - once with an address that is
> > in their LDAP record, and once with an address that is not registered.
> >
> > > This is trivial for them to fix.
> >
> > Indeed, using id.apache.org or Whimsy.
> >
> > John needs to add his address and Eya needs to correct the typo.
> >
> > > Warm regards,
> > > Craig
> > > >
> > > > Everyone else: please subscribe to the private mailing list. Otherwise I
> > > > will create an email discussion to have you removed from the project.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 12:17 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> It looks like the project whimsy page shows some concerns highlighted
> > > >> below.
> > > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/age
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Dec 17, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Four more concerns:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing
> > > >> list.
> > > >>>
> > > >> Jasper Blues?
> > > >> Mason Sharp?
> > > >> Raphael Bircher?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not
> > > >> mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
> > > >>>
> > > >> • eya.abdisho@bitnine.net (not recognised)
> > > >> • john.gemignani@bitnine.net (not recognised)
> > > >>
> > > >>> (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that
> > > >> indicates they are not. [1]
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards,
> > > >>> Dave
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/150
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Dec 16, 2021, at 6:11 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Hi
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> > > >>>> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are
> > > >> the
> > > >>>> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> John
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Hello Willem,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> > > >>>>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is
> > > >> a
> > > >>>>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will
> > > >> start
> > > >>>>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Best regards,
> > > >>>>> Eya
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> > > >>>>>> Hi,
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> > > >>>>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> > > >>>>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> > > >>>>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> > > >>>>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> > > >>>>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> > > >>>>>> policies during the incubation process.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> > > >>>>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> > > >>>>>> [3]
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Willem Jiang
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
> > > >>>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Dear Everyone,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> > > >>>>> with a
> > > >>>>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> > > >>>>> Apache
> > > >>>>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the
> > > >> AGE
> > > >>>>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> -
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Close to 900 commits
> > > >>>>>>> -
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> 68 unique contributors
> > > >>>>>>> -
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> > > >>>>> companies/institutions
> > > >>>>>>> -
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> > > >>>>>>> -
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> > > >>>>>>> -
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> > > >>>>> (mentors
> > > >>>>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> -
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> > > >>>>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> > > >>>>> Israel,
> > > >>>>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> > > >>>>> Russia, South
> > > >>>>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> > > >>>>>>> -
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> > > >>>>>>> -
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
> > > >>>>> AGE.
> > > >>>>>>> [5]
> > > >>>>>>> -
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> > > >>>>>>> -
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> > > >>>>> and
> > > >>>>>>> didn't find any issues
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
> > > >> the
> > > >>>>>>> Releases menu.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> > > >>>>> under
> > > >>>>>>> the Documentation menu.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> > > >>>>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what
> > > >> you
> > > >>>>>>> think.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
> > > >> of
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> > > >>>>> establish
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> > > >>>>> maintenance
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> > > >>>>> technology
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible
> > > >> for
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the
> > > >> most
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> > > >>>>> advanced
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and
> > > >> hereby
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
> > > >> of
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed
> > > >> to
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> > > >>>>> of
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> > > >> further
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with
> > > >> the
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling;
> > > >> and
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> be it further
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> > > >> Incubator
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Craig L Russell
> > > >> clr@apache.org
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > > >>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>.
> John needs to add his address and Eya needs to correct the typo.
I still do not understand how Bitnine email can cause an issue. The primary email address that I used to subscribe to @private is badaleya@gmail and eya@apacge.org, and I used badaleya@gmail from day one. I added the bitnine email recently to be safe. Anyhow, I just fixed the typo.
On 2022/01/08 22:52:59 sebb wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 20:46, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Josh,
> >
> > > On Jan 8, 2022, at 7:45 AM, Josh Innis <jo...@bitnine.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Craig,
> > >
> > > John Gemingnani (john.gemignani@bitnine.net) is mapped to the github
> > > address jrgemignani. If John isn't getting credit for his work: we need to
> > > fix this immediately.
> >
> > The problem here is that John is subscribed to the private list as john.gemignani@bitnine.net but his profile at id.apache.org only shows his gmail email address.
> > He can fix this at id.apache.org.
>
> Or using Whimsy
>
> > > Same with Eya (Eya is mapped to: eyab
> > > eya.abdisho@bitnine.net).
> >
> > It looks like Eya's profile at id.apache.org has a typo in her email "btinine" address.
> >
> > > I don't understand how they are not mapped. John
> > > and Eya have been here from the beginning and if they are not getting
> > > credit for their years of work on Apache AGE: please let us know. I am
> > > confused to see their names on the list of PPMC members who have not linked
> > > their apache id to their Github id, because I remember all of us doing so
> > > and all of us have had a multi-year long influence on the project.
> >
> > The problem is not that they are not getting credit for their contributions but that the email addresses subscribed to the private list are not in their profile at id.apache.org.
>
> AFAICT they are both subscribed twice - once with an address that is
> in their LDAP record, and once with an address that is not registered.
>
> > This is trivial for them to fix.
>
> Indeed, using id.apache.org or Whimsy.
>
> John needs to add his address and Eya needs to correct the typo.
>
> > Warm regards,
> > Craig
> > >
> > > Everyone else: please subscribe to the private mailing list. Otherwise I
> > > will create an email discussion to have you removed from the project.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 12:17 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> It looks like the project whimsy page shows some concerns highlighted
> > >> below.
> > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/age
> > >>
> > >>> On Dec 17, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Four more concerns:
> > >>>
> > >>> (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing
> > >> list.
> > >>>
> > >> Jasper Blues?
> > >> Mason Sharp?
> > >> Raphael Bircher?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not
> > >> mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
> > >>>
> > >> • eya.abdisho@bitnine.net (not recognised)
> > >> • john.gemignani@bitnine.net (not recognised)
> > >>
> > >>> (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
> > >>>
> > >>> (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that
> > >> indicates they are not. [1]
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> Dave
> > >>>
> > >>> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/150
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Dec 16, 2021, at 6:11 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> > >>>> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are
> > >> the
> > >>>> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> John
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hello Willem,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> > >>>>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is
> > >> a
> > >>>>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will
> > >> start
> > >>>>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>> Eya
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> > >>>>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> > >>>>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> > >>>>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> > >>>>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> > >>>>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> > >>>>>> policies during the incubation process.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> > >>>>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> > >>>>>> [3]
> > >>>>>
> > >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Willem Jiang
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
> > >>>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Dear Everyone,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> > >>>>> with a
> > >>>>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> > >>>>> Apache
> > >>>>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the
> > >> AGE
> > >>>>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Close to 900 commits
> > >>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 68 unique contributors
> > >>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> > >>>>> companies/institutions
> > >>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> > >>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> > >>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> > >>>>> (mentors
> > >>>>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> > >>>>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> > >>>>> Israel,
> > >>>>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> > >>>>> Russia, South
> > >>>>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> > >>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> > >>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
> > >>>>> AGE.
> > >>>>>>> [5]
> > >>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> > >>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>>>> didn't find any issues
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
> > >> the
> > >>>>>>> Releases menu.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> > >>>>> under
> > >>>>>>> the Documentation menu.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> > >>>>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what
> > >> you
> > >>>>>>> think.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
> > >> of
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> > >>>>> establish
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> > >>>>> maintenance
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> > >>>>> technology
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible
> > >> for
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the
> > >> most
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> > >>>>> advanced
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and
> > >> hereby
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
> > >> of
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed
> > >> to
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> > >> further
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with
> > >> the
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling;
> > >> and
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> be it further
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> > >> Incubator
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Craig L Russell
> > >> clr@apache.org
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > Craig L Russell
> > clr@apache.org
> >
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 20:46, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Josh,
>
> > On Jan 8, 2022, at 7:45 AM, Josh Innis <jo...@bitnine.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Craig,
> >
> > John Gemingnani (john.gemignani@bitnine.net) is mapped to the github
> > address jrgemignani. If John isn't getting credit for his work: we need to
> > fix this immediately.
>
> The problem here is that John is subscribed to the private list as john.gemignani@bitnine.net but his profile at id.apache.org only shows his gmail email address.
> He can fix this at id.apache.org.
Or using Whimsy
> > Same with Eya (Eya is mapped to: eyab
> > eya.abdisho@bitnine.net).
>
> It looks like Eya's profile at id.apache.org has a typo in her email "btinine" address.
>
> > I don't understand how they are not mapped. John
> > and Eya have been here from the beginning and if they are not getting
> > credit for their years of work on Apache AGE: please let us know. I am
> > confused to see their names on the list of PPMC members who have not linked
> > their apache id to their Github id, because I remember all of us doing so
> > and all of us have had a multi-year long influence on the project.
>
> The problem is not that they are not getting credit for their contributions but that the email addresses subscribed to the private list are not in their profile at id.apache.org.
AFAICT they are both subscribed twice - once with an address that is
in their LDAP record, and once with an address that is not registered.
> This is trivial for them to fix.
Indeed, using id.apache.org or Whimsy.
John needs to add his address and Eya needs to correct the typo.
> Warm regards,
> Craig
> >
> > Everyone else: please subscribe to the private mailing list. Otherwise I
> > will create an email discussion to have you removed from the project.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 12:17 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> It looks like the project whimsy page shows some concerns highlighted
> >> below.
> >> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/age
> >>
> >>> On Dec 17, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Four more concerns:
> >>>
> >>> (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing
> >> list.
> >>>
> >> Jasper Blues?
> >> Mason Sharp?
> >> Raphael Bircher?
> >>
> >>
> >>> (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not
> >> mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
> >>>
> >> • eya.abdisho@bitnine.net (not recognised)
> >> • john.gemignani@bitnine.net (not recognised)
> >>
> >>> (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
> >>>
> >>> (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that
> >> indicates they are not. [1]
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/150
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 16, 2021, at 6:11 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi
> >>>>
> >>>> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> >>>> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are
> >> the
> >>>> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
> >>>>
> >>>> John
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello Willem,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> >>>>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is
> >> a
> >>>>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will
> >> start
> >>>>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>> Eya
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> >>>>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> >>>>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> >>>>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> >>>>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> >>>>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> >>>>>> policies during the incubation process.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> >>>>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> >>>>>> [3]
> >>>>>
> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Willem Jiang
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
> >>>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dear Everyone,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> >>>>> with a
> >>>>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> >>>>> Apache
> >>>>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the
> >> AGE
> >>>>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Close to 900 commits
> >>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 68 unique contributors
> >>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> >>>>> companies/institutions
> >>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> >>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> >>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> >>>>> (mentors
> >>>>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> >>>>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> >>>>> Israel,
> >>>>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> >>>>> Russia, South
> >>>>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> >>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> >>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
> >>>>> AGE.
> >>>>>>> [5]
> >>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> >>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>> didn't find any issues
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
> >> the
> >>>>>>> Releases menu.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> >>>>> under
> >>>>>>> the Documentation menu.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> >>>>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what
> >> you
> >>>>>>> think.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
> >> of
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >>>>> establish
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> >>>>> maintenance
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> >>>>> technology
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible
> >> for
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the
> >> most
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> >>>>> advanced
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and
> >> hereby
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
> >> of
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed
> >> to
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> >> further
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with
> >> the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling;
> >> and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> be it further
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> >> Incubator
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>
> >>
> >> Craig L Russell
> >> clr@apache.org
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
>
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>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>.
Hi Josh,
> On Jan 8, 2022, at 7:45 AM, Josh Innis <jo...@bitnine.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Craig,
>
> John Gemingnani (john.gemignani@bitnine.net) is mapped to the github
> address jrgemignani. If John isn't getting credit for his work: we need to
> fix this immediately.
The problem here is that John is subscribed to the private list as john.gemignani@bitnine.net but his profile at id.apache.org only shows his gmail email address.
He can fix this at id.apache.org.
> Same with Eya (Eya is mapped to: eyab
> eya.abdisho@bitnine.net).
It looks like Eya's profile at id.apache.org has a typo in her email "btinine" address.
> I don't understand how they are not mapped. John
> and Eya have been here from the beginning and if they are not getting
> credit for their years of work on Apache AGE: please let us know. I am
> confused to see their names on the list of PPMC members who have not linked
> their apache id to their Github id, because I remember all of us doing so
> and all of us have had a multi-year long influence on the project.
The problem is not that they are not getting credit for their contributions but that the email addresses subscribed to the private list are not in their profile at id.apache.org.
This is trivial for them to fix.
Warm regards,
Craig
>
> Everyone else: please subscribe to the private mailing list. Otherwise I
> will create an email discussion to have you removed from the project.
>
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 12:17 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It looks like the project whimsy page shows some concerns highlighted
>> below.
>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/age
>>
>>> On Dec 17, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Four more concerns:
>>>
>>> (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing
>> list.
>>>
>> Jasper Blues?
>> Mason Sharp?
>> Raphael Bircher?
>>
>>
>>> (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not
>> mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
>>>
>> • eya.abdisho@bitnine.net (not recognised)
>> • john.gemignani@bitnine.net (not recognised)
>>
>>> (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
>>>
>>> (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that
>> indicates they are not. [1]
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/150
>>>
>>>> On Dec 16, 2021, at 6:11 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
>>>> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are
>> the
>>>> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Willem,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
>>>>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is
>> a
>>>>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will
>> start
>>>>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Eya
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
>>>>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
>>>>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
>>>>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
>>>>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
>>>>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
>>>>>> policies during the incubation process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
>>>>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
>>>>> with a
>>>>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the
>> AGE
>>>>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Close to 900 commits
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 68 unique contributors
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
>>>>> companies/institutions
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
>>>>> (mentors
>>>>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
>>>>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
>>>>> Israel,
>>>>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
>>>>> Russia, South
>>>>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
>>>>> AGE.
>>>>>>> [5]
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> didn't find any issues
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
>> the
>>>>>>> Releases menu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
>>>>> under
>>>>>>> the Documentation menu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
>>>>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what
>> you
>>>>>>> think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>>>>> establish
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
>>>>> maintenance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
>>>>> technology
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible
>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the
>> most
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
>>>>> advanced
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and
>> hereby
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed
>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>> further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with
>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling;
>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>> Incubator
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>
>>
>> Craig L Russell
>> clr@apache.org
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Josh Innis <jo...@bitnine.net>.
Hi Craig,
John Gemingnani (john.gemignani@bitnine.net) is mapped to the github
address jrgemignani. If John isn't getting credit for his work: we need to
fix this immediately. Same with Eya (Eya is mapped to: eyab
eya.abdisho@bitnine.net). I don't understand how they are not mapped. John
and Eya have been here from the beginning and if they are not getting
credit for their years of work on Apache AGE: please let us know. I am
confused to see their names on the list of PPMC members who have not linked
their apache id to their Github id, because I remember all of us doing so
and all of us have had a multi-year long influence on the project.
Everyone else: please subscribe to the private mailing list. Otherwise I
will create an email discussion to have you removed from the project.
On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 12:17 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It looks like the project whimsy page shows some concerns highlighted
> below.
> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/age
>
> > On Dec 17, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Four more concerns:
> >
> > (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing
> list.
> >
> Jasper Blues?
> Mason Sharp?
> Raphael Bircher?
>
>
> > (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not
> mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
> >
> • eya.abdisho@bitnine.net (not recognised)
> • john.gemignani@bitnine.net (not recognised)
>
> > (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
> >
> > (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that
> indicates they are not. [1]
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/150
> >
> >> On Dec 16, 2021, at 6:11 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> >> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are
> the
> >> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Willem,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> >>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is
> a
> >>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will
> start
> >>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Eya
> >>>
> >>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> >>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> >>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> >>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> >>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> >>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> >>>> policies during the incubation process.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> >>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> >>>> [3]
> >>>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> >>>>
> >>>> Willem Jiang
> >>>>
> >>>> Twitter: willemjiang
> >>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> >>> with a
> >>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> >>> Apache
> >>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the
> AGE
> >>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Close to 900 commits
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 68 unique contributors
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> >>> companies/institutions
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> >>> (mentors
> >>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> >>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> >>> Israel,
> >>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> >>> Russia, South
> >>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
> >>> AGE.
> >>>>> [5]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> >>> and
> >>>>> didn't find any issues
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
> the
> >>>>> Releases menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> >>> under
> >>>>> the Documentation menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> >>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what
> you
> >>>>> think.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >>> establish
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> >>> maintenance
> >>>>>
> >>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> >>> technology
> >>>>>
> >>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> >>>>>
> >>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible
> for
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the
> most
> >>>>>
> >>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> >>> advanced
> >>>>>
> >>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and
> hereby
> >>>>>
> >>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >>>>>
> >>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed
> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> >>> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >>>>>
> >>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with
> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling;
> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>> be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >
>
> Craig L Russell
> clr@apache.org
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Nick Sorrell <so...@apache.org>.
I have subscribed with both sorrell@apache.org and nick@cint.io.
On 2022/01/09 20:44:08 sebb wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 04:17, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > It looks like the project whimsy page shows some concerns highlighted below.
> > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/age
> >
> > > On Dec 17, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Four more concerns:
> > >
> > > (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list.
> > >
> > Jasper Blues?
> > Mason Sharp?
> > Raphael Bircher?
>
> Also Nick Sorrell does not appear to be subscribed.
>
> >
> > > (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
> > >
> > • eya.abdisho@bitnine.net (not recognised)
> > • john.gemignani@bitnine.net (not recognised)
> >
> > > (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
> > >
> > > (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that indicates they are not. [1]
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/150
> > >
> > >> On Dec 16, 2021, at 6:11 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi
> > >>
> > >> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> > >> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are the
> > >> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
> > >>
> > >> John
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello Willem,
> > >>>
> > >>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> > >>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a
> > >>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will start
> > >>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best regards,
> > >>> Eya
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> > >>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> > >>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> > >>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> > >>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> > >>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> > >>>> policies during the incubation process.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> > >>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> > >>>> [3]
> > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Willem Jiang
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Twitter: willemjiang
> > >>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Dear Everyone,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> > >>> with a
> > >>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> > >>> Apache
> > >>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
> > >>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Close to 900 commits
> > >>>>> -
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 68 unique contributors
> > >>>>> -
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> > >>> companies/institutions
> > >>>>> -
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> > >>>>> -
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> > >>>>> -
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> > >>> (mentors
> > >>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> > >>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> > >>> Israel,
> > >>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> > >>> Russia, South
> > >>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> > >>>>> -
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> > >>>>> -
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
> > >>> AGE.
> > >>>>> [5]
> > >>>>> -
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> > >>>>> -
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> > >>> and
> > >>>>> didn't find any issues
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
> > >>>>> Releases menu.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> > >>> under
> > >>>>> the Documentation menu.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> > >>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> > >>>>> think.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> > >>> establish
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> > >>> maintenance
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> > >>> technology
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> > >>> advanced
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> > >>> of
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> be it further
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
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> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >
> >
> > Craig L Russell
> > clr@apache.org
> >
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 04:17, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> It looks like the project whimsy page shows some concerns highlighted below.
> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/age
>
> > On Dec 17, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Four more concerns:
> >
> > (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list.
> >
> Jasper Blues?
> Mason Sharp?
> Raphael Bircher?
Also Nick Sorrell does not appear to be subscribed.
>
> > (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
> >
> • eya.abdisho@bitnine.net (not recognised)
> • john.gemignani@bitnine.net (not recognised)
>
> > (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
> >
> > (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that indicates they are not. [1]
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/150
> >
> >> On Dec 16, 2021, at 6:11 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> >> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are the
> >> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Willem,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> >>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a
> >>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will start
> >>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Eya
> >>>
> >>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> >>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> >>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> >>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> >>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> >>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> >>>> policies during the incubation process.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> >>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> >>>> [3]
> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> >>>>
> >>>> Willem Jiang
> >>>>
> >>>> Twitter: willemjiang
> >>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> >>> with a
> >>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> >>> Apache
> >>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
> >>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Close to 900 commits
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 68 unique contributors
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> >>> companies/institutions
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> >>> (mentors
> >>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> >>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> >>> Israel,
> >>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> >>> Russia, South
> >>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
> >>> AGE.
> >>>>> [5]
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> >>> and
> >>>>> didn't find any issues
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
> >>>>> Releases menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> >>> under
> >>>>> the Documentation menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> >>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> >>>>> think.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >>> establish
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> >>> maintenance
> >>>>>
> >>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> >>> technology
> >>>>>
> >>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> >>>>>
> >>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
> >>>>>
> >>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> >>> advanced
> >>>>>
> >>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
> >>>>>
> >>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >>>>>
> >>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> >>> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >>>>>
> >>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
> >>>>>
> >>>>> be it further
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
It looks like the project whimsy page shows some concerns highlighted below.
https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/age
> On Dec 17, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Four more concerns:
>
> (1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list.
>
Jasper Blues?
Mason Sharp?
Raphael Bircher?
> (2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
>
• eya.abdisho@bitnine.net (not recognised)
• john.gemignani@bitnine.net (not recognised)
> (3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
>
> (4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that indicates they are not. [1]
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/150
>
>> On Dec 16, 2021, at 6:11 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
>> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are the
>> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Willem,
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
>>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a
>>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will start
>>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Eya
>>>
>>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
>>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
>>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
>>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
>>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
>>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
>>>>
>>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
>>>> policies during the incubation process.
>>>>
>>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
>>>>
>>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
>>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
>>>> [3]
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
>>> with a
>>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
>>> Apache
>>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
>>>>>
>>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
>>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Close to 900 commits
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> 68 unique contributors
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
>>> companies/institutions
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
>>> (mentors
>>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
>>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
>>> Israel,
>>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
>>> Russia, South
>>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
>>> AGE.
>>>>> [5]
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
>>> and
>>>>> didn't find any issues
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
>>>>>
>>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
>>>>>
>>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
>>>>> Releases menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
>>> under
>>>>> the Documentation menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
>>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
>>>>> think.
>>>>>
>>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
>>>>>
>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>>>>>
>>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>>> establish
>>>>>
>>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
>>> maintenance
>>>>>
>>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>>>>
>>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
>>> technology
>>>>>
>>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
>>>>>
>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
>>>>>
>>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
>>>>>
>>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
>>>>>
>>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
>>> advanced
>>>>>
>>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
>>>>>
>>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
>>>>>
>>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
>>>>>
>>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
>>>>>
>>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>>>>>
>>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
>>>>>
>>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
>>>>>
>>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>>>>>
>>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>>>>>
>>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
>>>>>
>>>>> be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>>>>>
>>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
>>>>>
>>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
Four more concerns:
(1) Three of the PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list.
(2) Four of the Committers including some of the PPMC members have not mapped their apache id to their GitHub id. How can they contribute?
(3) No one has been added to the PPMC.
(4) Are all of the License Headers taken care of? I’m seeing a PR that indicates they are not. [1]
Regards,
Dave
[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/150
> On Dec 16, 2021, at 6:11 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are the
> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
>
> John
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello Willem,
>>
>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a
>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will start
>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Eya
>>
>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
>>>
>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
>>> policies during the incubation process.
>>>
>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
>>>
>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
>>> [3]
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Willem Jiang
>>>
>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Everyone,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
>> with a
>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
>> Apache
>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
>>>>
>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
>>>>
>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> Close to 900 commits
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> 68 unique contributors
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
>> companies/institutions
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
>> (mentors
>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
>> Israel,
>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
>> Russia, South
>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
>> AGE.
>>>> [5]
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
>> and
>>>> didn't find any issues
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
>>>>
>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
>>>>
>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
>>>> Releases menu.
>>>>
>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
>>>>
>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
>> under
>>>> the Documentation menu.
>>>>
>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
>>>>
>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
>>>> think.
>>>>
>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>>>>
>>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
>>>>
>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>>>>
>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>> establish
>>>>
>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
>> maintenance
>>>>
>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>>>
>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
>> technology
>>>>
>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
>>>>
>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>>>
>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
>>>>
>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
>>>>
>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
>>>>
>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
>> advanced
>>>>
>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
>>>>
>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
>>>>
>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
>>>>
>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
>>>>
>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>>>>
>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
>>>>
>>>> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
>>>>
>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
>>>>
>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
>> of
>>>>
>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>>>>
>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>>>>
>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
>>>>
>>>> be it further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>>>>
>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
>>>>
>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Hi
Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are the
numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
John
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hello Willem,
>
> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a
> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will start
> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
>
> Best regards,
> Eya
>
> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> > even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> > I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> > addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> > The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> > of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
> >
> > It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> > policies during the incubation process.
> >
> > Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
> >
> > [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> > [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> > [3]
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Everyone,
> > >
> > >
> > > Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
> with a
> > > vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
> Apache
> > > AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> > >
> > > We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> > >
> > > In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
> > > project community has grown in the following areas:
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > >
> > > Close to 900 commits
> > > -
> > >
> > > 68 unique contributors
> > > -
> > >
> > > 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
> companies/institutions
> > > -
> > >
> > > Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> > > -
> > >
> > > 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> > > -
> > >
> > > 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
> (mentors
> > > and PPMC members excluded)
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > >
> > > Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> > > Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
> Israel,
> > > Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
> Russia, South
> > > Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> > > -
> > >
> > > Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> > > -
> > >
> > > Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of
> AGE.
> > > [5]
> > > -
> > >
> > > Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> > > -
> > >
> > > Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
> and
> > > didn't find any issues
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> > >
> > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> > >
> > > [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
> > > Releases menu.
> > >
> > > [4] https://age.apache.org/
> > >
> > > [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
> under
> > > the Documentation menu.
> > >
> > > [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> > > <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> > >
> > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> > > think.
> > >
> > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Establish the Apache AGE Project
> > >
> > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > >
> > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> establish
> > >
> > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> maintenance
> > >
> > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > >
> > > related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
> technology
> > >
> > > with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> > >
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > >
> > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> > >
> > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
> > >
> > > the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
> > >
> > > widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
> advanced
> > >
> > > relational database system software.; and be it further
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
> > >
> > > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
> > >
> > > the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> > >
> > > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> > >
> > > scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > >
> > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> > >
> > > * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
> > >
> > > the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> > >
> > > and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> of
> > >
> > > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > >
> > > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> > >
> > > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
> > >
> > > be it further
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> > >
> > > AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you for your time and consideration,
> > >
> > > Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>.
Hello Willem,
Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will start the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
Best regards,
Eya
On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
>
> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
> policies during the incubation process.
>
> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
>
> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
> [3]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Everyone,
> >
> >
> > Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community with a
> > vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that Apache
> > AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
> >
> > We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
> >
> > In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
> > project community has grown in the following areas:
> >
> >
> > -
> >
> > Close to 900 commits
> > -
> >
> > 68 unique contributors
> > -
> >
> > 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different companies/institutions
> > -
> >
> > Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> > -
> >
> > 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> > -
> >
> > 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers (mentors
> > and PPMC members excluded)
> >
> >
> > -
> >
> > Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> > Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel,
> > Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines, Russia, South
> > Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> > -
> >
> > Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> > -
> >
> > Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of AGE.
> > [5]
> > -
> >
> > Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> > -
> >
> > Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6] and
> > didn't find any issues
> >
> >
> >
> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
> >
> > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
> >
> > [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
> > Releases menu.
> >
> > [4] https://age.apache.org/
> >
> > [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
> > the Documentation menu.
> >
> > [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> > <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
> >
> > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> > think.
> >
> > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Establish the Apache AGE Project
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> >
> > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> >
> > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> >
> > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >
> > related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open technology
> >
> > with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >
> > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
> >
> > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
> >
> > the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
> >
> > widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most advanced
> >
> > relational database system software.; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
> >
> > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
> >
> > the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
> >
> > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> >
> > scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >
> > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
> >
> > * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
> >
> > * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
> >
> > * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
> >
> > * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
> >
> > * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
> >
> > * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
> >
> > * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
> >
> > * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
> >
> > * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
> >
> > * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
> >
> > * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
> >
> > * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
> >
> > the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
> >
> > and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
> >
> > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >
> > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> >
> > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
> >
> > be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> >
> > AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your time and consideration,
> >
> > Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache AGE Incubating as a Top Level Project
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
policies during the incubation process.
Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
[1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
[2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
[3]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
Willem Jiang
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Everyone,
>
>
> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community with a
> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that Apache
> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
>
> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
>
> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the AGE
> project community has grown in the following areas:
>
>
> -
>
> Close to 900 commits
> -
>
> 68 unique contributors
> -
>
> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different companies/institutions
> -
>
> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
> -
>
> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
> -
>
> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers (mentors
> and PPMC members excluded)
>
>
> -
>
> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe including
> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel,
> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines, Russia, South
> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
> -
>
> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
> -
>
> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions of AGE.
> [5]
> -
>
> Developer conversations at dev@age.apache.org
> -
>
> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6] and
> didn't find any issues
>
>
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
>
> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
>
> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under the
> Releases menu.
>
> [4] https://age.apache.org/
>
> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
> the Documentation menu.
>
> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
>
> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> think.
>
> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Establish the Apache AGE Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>
> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>
> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>
> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open technology
>
> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
>
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible for
>
> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the most
>
> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most advanced
>
> relational database system software.; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and hereby
>
> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
>
> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
>
> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
>
> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
>
> * Dehowe Feng <de...@apache.org>
>
> * Eya Badal <ey...@apache.org>
>
> * Felix Cheung <fe...@apache.org>
>
> * Jasper Blues <ja...@apache.org>
>
> * John Gemignani <jg...@apache.org>
>
> * Josh Innis <jo...@apache.org>
>
> * Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>
>
> * Kevin Ratnasekera <dj...@apache.org>
>
> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
>
> * Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>
>
> * Suneel Marthi <sm...@apache.org>
>
> * Von Gosling <vo...@apache.org>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed to
>
> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
>
> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
>
> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>
> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling; and
>
> be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>
> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>
>
>
> Thank you for your time and consideration,
>
> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
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