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org.osgi.framework.bsnversion=multiple
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to start many instances of the same bundle in one OSGi. I
have noticed that setting org.osgi.framework.bsnversion=multiple doesn't
change anything. The install command returns the ID of the already
installed bundle, no new bundle is installed, as specified in 4.4.3 of
the OSGi Core Release 6 Spec:
"Every bundle is uniquely identified by its location string. If an
installed bundle is using the specified
location, the installBundle methods must return the Bundle object for
that installed bundle and not install a new bundle."
Yet the same section also says:
"If the to be installed bundle has a bundle symbolic name and version
pair that is already installed in
the framework then the installation is only valid when the
org.osgi.framework.bsnversion framework launching property is set to
multiple or managed."
Section 10.1.15.49 (concerning org.osgi.framework.bsnversion=multiple)
actually says this should be possible:
"Specifies the framework will allow multiple bundles to be installed
having the same symbolic name and version."
So, is this a bug in the framework? I actually use my own build of the
framework where I changed the installBundle method of
org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.java to force this option to work. I
still would like to know the better way to achieve this or to have the
bug corrected.
Regards,
Malek.
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Re: org.osgi.framework.bsnversion=multiple
Posted by Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>.
> On 14 Jan 2016, at 12:19, Malek Ben Salem <ma...@aicas.de> wrote:
>
> Yes, I use the same location string. Is there another way to do this?
So this is the problem. As you quoted yourself: "Every bundle is uniquely identified by its location string. If an installed bundle is using the specified location, the installBundle methods must return the Bundle object for that installed bundle and not install a new bundle”. Therefore Felix is behaving correctly.
To pass a different location string, you can use the two-argument variant of installBundle(), i.e. the one that takes an InpuStream as its second arg. Now you can treat the location as an opaque string, as it no longer has to be a URL for the bundle data. I recommend using some kind of URN.
>
> Shouldn't the framework just ignore the existing location if the bsnversion switch is set to multiple? I mean, why bother "allow multiple bundles to be installed having the same symbolic name and version" if the install method will refuse it before checking? This is how I understand the spec, so I changed my build to check the switch before eventually looking for the location and then just do one thing or the other (return the existing bundle or install a new one).
No it shouldn’t. As the spec clearly states, the location string must be unique even when bsnversion=multiple is enabled. In many ways the location string is the ultimate “primary key” of a bundle.
Regards,
Neil
>
> Regards,
> Malek.
>
> On 01/13/2016 03:40 PM, Neil Bartlett wrote:
>> Do you pass a unique location string each time you install?
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>> On 13 Jan 2016, at 12:12, Malek Ben Salem <ma...@aicas.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to start many instances of the same bundle in one OSGi. I have noticed that setting org.osgi.framework.bsnversion=multiple doesn't change anything. The install command returns the ID of the already installed bundle, no new bundle is installed, as specified in 4.4.3 of the OSGi Core Release 6 Spec:
>>>
>>> "Every bundle is uniquely identified by its location string. If an installed bundle is using the specified
>>> location, the installBundle methods must return the Bundle object for that installed bundle and not install a new bundle."
>>>
>>> Yet the same section also says:
>>>
>>> "If the to be installed bundle has a bundle symbolic name and version pair that is already installed in
>>> the framework then the installation is only valid when the org.osgi.framework.bsnversion framework launching property is set to multiple or managed."
>>>
>>> Section 10.1.15.49 (concerning org.osgi.framework.bsnversion=multiple) actually says this should be possible:
>>> "Specifies the framework will allow multiple bundles to be installed having the same symbolic name and version."
>>>
>>> So, is this a bug in the framework? I actually use my own build of the framework where I changed the installBundle method of org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.java to force this option to work. I still would like to know the better way to achieve this or to have the bug corrected.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Malek.
>>>
>>> --
>>> aicas GmbH
>>> Haid-und-Neu-Straße 18 * D-76131 Karlsruhe * Germany
>>> http://www.aicas.com * Tel: +49-721-663 968-0
>>>
>>> USt-Id: DE216375633, Handelsregister HRB 109481, AG Mannheim
>>> Geschäftsführer: Dr. James J. Hunt
>>>
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Re: org.osgi.framework.bsnversion=multiple
Posted by Malek Ben Salem <ma...@aicas.de>.
Yes, I use the same location string. Is there another way to do this?
Shouldn't the framework just ignore the existing location if the
bsnversion switch is set to multiple? I mean, why bother "allow multiple
bundles to be installed having the same symbolic name and version" if
the install method will refuse it before checking? This is how I
understand the spec, so I changed my build to check the switch before
eventually looking for the location and then just do one thing or the
other (return the existing bundle or install a new one).
Regards,
Malek.
On 01/13/2016 03:40 PM, Neil Bartlett wrote:
> Do you pass a unique location string each time you install?
>
> Neil
>
>
>> On 13 Jan 2016, at 12:12, Malek Ben Salem <ma...@aicas.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I'm trying to start many instances of the same bundle in one OSGi. I have noticed that setting org.osgi.framework.bsnversion=multiple doesn't change anything. The install command returns the ID of the already installed bundle, no new bundle is installed, as specified in 4.4.3 of the OSGi Core Release 6 Spec:
>>
>> "Every bundle is uniquely identified by its location string. If an installed bundle is using the specified
>> location, the installBundle methods must return the Bundle object for that installed bundle and not install a new bundle."
>>
>> Yet the same section also says:
>>
>> "If the to be installed bundle has a bundle symbolic name and version pair that is already installed in
>> the framework then the installation is only valid when the org.osgi.framework.bsnversion framework launching property is set to multiple or managed."
>>
>> Section 10.1.15.49 (concerning org.osgi.framework.bsnversion=multiple) actually says this should be possible:
>> "Specifies the framework will allow multiple bundles to be installed having the same symbolic name and version."
>>
>> So, is this a bug in the framework? I actually use my own build of the framework where I changed the installBundle method of org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.java to force this option to work. I still would like to know the better way to achieve this or to have the bug corrected.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Malek.
>>
>> --
>> aicas GmbH
>> Haid-und-Neu-Straße 18 * D-76131 Karlsruhe * Germany
>> http://www.aicas.com * Tel: +49-721-663 968-0
>>
>> USt-Id: DE216375633, Handelsregister HRB 109481, AG Mannheim
>> Geschäftsführer: Dr. James J. Hunt
>>
>
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Re: org.osgi.framework.bsnversion=multiple
Posted by Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>.
Do you pass a unique location string each time you install?
Neil
> On 13 Jan 2016, at 12:12, Malek Ben Salem <ma...@aicas.de> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm trying to start many instances of the same bundle in one OSGi. I have noticed that setting org.osgi.framework.bsnversion=multiple doesn't change anything. The install command returns the ID of the already installed bundle, no new bundle is installed, as specified in 4.4.3 of the OSGi Core Release 6 Spec:
>
> "Every bundle is uniquely identified by its location string. If an installed bundle is using the specified
> location, the installBundle methods must return the Bundle object for that installed bundle and not install a new bundle."
>
> Yet the same section also says:
>
> "If the to be installed bundle has a bundle symbolic name and version pair that is already installed in
> the framework then the installation is only valid when the org.osgi.framework.bsnversion framework launching property is set to multiple or managed."
>
> Section 10.1.15.49 (concerning org.osgi.framework.bsnversion=multiple) actually says this should be possible:
> "Specifies the framework will allow multiple bundles to be installed having the same symbolic name and version."
>
> So, is this a bug in the framework? I actually use my own build of the framework where I changed the installBundle method of org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.java to force this option to work. I still would like to know the better way to achieve this or to have the bug corrected.
>
> Regards,
> Malek.
>
> --
> aicas GmbH
> Haid-und-Neu-Straße 18 * D-76131 Karlsruhe * Germany
> http://www.aicas.com * Tel: +49-721-663 968-0
>
> USt-Id: DE216375633, Handelsregister HRB 109481, AG Mannheim
> Geschäftsführer: Dr. James J. Hunt
>
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