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[jira] [Created] (PIG-2948) Add multimedia support to Pig: types for images, audio, video common document formats and accompanying internal-UDFs

Russell Jurney created PIG-2948:
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             Summary: Add multimedia support to Pig: types for images, audio, video common document formats and accompanying internal-UDFs
                 Key: PIG-2948
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-2948
             Project: Pig
          Issue Type: New Feature
          Components: data, documentation, e2e harness, grunt, impl, internal-udfs, parser, piggybank, tools
         Environment: Pie in the Sky.

Inside my head. Someone mentioned this last evening and I decided to JIRA it.
            Reporter: Russell Jurney
            Assignee: Russell Jurney
            Priority: Minor


Pig should have support for multimedia: images, audio, video, common document formats. By continuing to add additional types, Pig can outpace other tools.

Ideally a java-based library that can already handle these formats would be used to transform them to Pig relations.


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[jira] [Commented] (PIG-2948) Add multimedia support to Pig: types for images, audio, video common document formats and accompanying internal-UDFs

Posted by "Jonathan Coveney (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-2948?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13470663#comment-13470663 ] 

Jonathan Coveney commented on PIG-2948:
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Russell,

I'm curious what you have in mind here. What is gained from having a specific type for these things that you couldn't do by passing around bytearrays (besides the cost of serialization)?
                
> Add multimedia support to Pig: types for images, audio, video common document formats and accompanying internal-UDFs
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: PIG-2948
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-2948
>             Project: Pig
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: data, documentation, e2e harness, grunt, impl, internal-udfs, parser, piggybank, tools
>         Environment: Pie in the Sky.
> Inside my head. Someone mentioned this last evening and I decided to JIRA it.
>            Reporter: Russell Jurney
>            Assignee: Russell Jurney
>            Priority: Minor
>
> Pig should have support for multimedia: images, audio, video, common document formats. By continuing to add additional types, Pig can outpace other tools.
> Ideally a java-based library that can already handle these formats would be used to transform them to Pig relations.

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[jira] [Commented] (PIG-2948) Add multimedia support to Pig: types for images, audio, video common document formats and accompanying internal-UDFs

Posted by "Russell Jurney (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-2948?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13470684#comment-13470684 ] 

Russell Jurney commented on PIG-2948:
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You make a good point: the benefit of a type only comes once there are sufficient UDFs supporting image/audio/video/document load/store/modify operations that you want to pull them into builtins and add a type. We've seen this with boolean and datetime types. 

Once there are assets for Pig/images in contrib, the benefit of having operations as pig builtins is that you can specify pipelines for multimedia processing when there are large numbers of multimedia assets. I get the feeling that Pig might do well in certain circles as a way to process multimedia inputs, and a cohesive, organized syntax would facilitate ease of use and productivity.

But the way to start isn't to being a new type. It is to explore working with some type of one of these types and go from there. I'm going to do that. I put this ticket here as a long-term goal, because I believe there is demand. I will link appropriate tickets, knowledge and tools here as I edit the wiki.
                
> Add multimedia support to Pig: types for images, audio, video common document formats and accompanying internal-UDFs
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: PIG-2948
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-2948
>             Project: Pig
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: data, documentation, e2e harness, grunt, impl, internal-udfs, parser, piggybank, tools
>         Environment: Pie in the Sky.
> Inside my head. Someone mentioned this last evening and I decided to JIRA it.
>            Reporter: Russell Jurney
>            Assignee: Russell Jurney
>            Priority: Minor
>
> Pig should have support for multimedia: images, audio, video, common document formats. By continuing to add additional types, Pig can outpace other tools.
> Ideally a java-based library that can already handle these formats would be used to transform them to Pig relations.

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[jira] [Commented] (PIG-2948) Add multimedia support to Pig: types for images, audio, video common document formats and accompanying internal-UDFs

Posted by "Russell Jurney (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Russell Jurney commented on PIG-2948:
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I just found this: http://hipi.cs.virginia.edu/

There is an existing inputformat, and lots there to work with. This could be the basis for creating an image loader in Pig.
                
> Add multimedia support to Pig: types for images, audio, video common document formats and accompanying internal-UDFs
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: PIG-2948
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-2948
>             Project: Pig
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: data, documentation, e2e harness, grunt, impl, internal-udfs, parser, piggybank, tools
>         Environment: Pie in the Sky.
> Inside my head. Someone mentioned this last evening and I decided to JIRA it.
>            Reporter: Russell Jurney
>            Assignee: Russell Jurney
>            Priority: Minor
>
> Pig should have support for multimedia: images, audio, video, common document formats. By continuing to add additional types, Pig can outpace other tools.
> Ideally a java-based library that can already handle these formats would be used to transform them to Pig relations.

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