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camel-jetty artifact name issue
Hi,
We introduced camel-jetty8 and camel-jetty9 two modules in Camel 2.15-SNAPSHOT and camel-jetty is not exit any more.
When I tried to run the tests of camelinaction, I have to change the pom.xml to choice camel-jetty8 or camel-jetty9 to run the test.
My think we need to rename camel-jetty9 to camel-jetty to give the default choice for the user before cutting the camel 2.15.0.
Any thought?
--
Willem Jiang
Red Hat, Inc.
Web: http://www.redhat.com
Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
Re: camel-jetty artifact name issue
Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.
Hi
Java 6 is NOT supported anymore since Camel 2.14.x.
So if Jetty9 requires JDK7 or 8 then that is fine.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jetty9 requires JDK7, I think that holds the upgrading of other third part libraries.
> It’s may save us some efforts if we just set the default version of camel-jetty to use Jetty8.
>
> We can change the camel-jetty to use Jetty9 in Camel 2.16.0.
>
> --
> Willem Jiang
>
> Red Hat, Inc.
> Web: http://www.redhat.com
> Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
>
>
> On March 5, 2015 at 5:26:51 PM, Claus Ibsen (claus.ibsen@gmail.com) wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Willem Jiang wrote:
>> > I just give it a second thought, as we are in the middle of Jetty upgrading, it’s impossible
>> for the user to use Jetty9 if they still want to use JDK6. How about we just publish the camel-jetty
>> module on the base on camel-jetty8 and we can upgrade camel-jetty9 if it is ready?
>>
>> JDK6 ??? We dont support that. Do you mean JDK7?
>>
>> >
>> > BTW, current camel-jetty feature is using camel-jetty8 bundle.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Willem Jiang
>> >
>> > Red Hat, Inc.
>> > Web: http://www.redhat.com
>> > Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
>> > http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
>> > Twitter: willemjiang
>> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On March 5, 2015 at 3:57:25 PM, Claus Ibsen (claus.ibsen@gmail.com) wrote:
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> Yeah I think that is a good idea.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Willem Jiang wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > We introduced camel-jetty8 and camel-jetty9 two modules in Camel 2.15-SNAPSHOT
>> and
>> >> camel-jetty is not exit any more.
>> >> >
>> >> > When I tried to run the tests of camelinaction, I have to change the pom.xml to choice
>> >> camel-jetty8 or camel-jetty9 to run the test.
>> >> >
>> >> > My think we need to rename camel-jetty9 to camel-jetty to give the default choice
>> for
>> >> the user before cutting the camel 2.15.0.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any thought?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Willem Jiang
>> >> >
>> >> > Red Hat, Inc.
>> >> > Web: http://www.redhat.com
>> >> > Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
>> >> > http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
>> >> > Twitter: willemjiang
>> >> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Claus Ibsen
>> >> -----------------
>> >> Red Hat, Inc.
>> >> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
>> >> Twitter: davsclaus
>> >> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>> >> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>> >> hawtio: http://hawt.io/
>> >> fabric8: http://fabric8.io/
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -----------------
>> Red Hat, Inc.
>> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
>> Twitter: davsclaus
>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>> hawtio: http://hawt.io/
>> fabric8: http://fabric8.io/
>>
>
--
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
Red Hat, Inc.
Email: cibsen@redhat.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
hawtio: http://hawt.io/
fabric8: http://fabric8.io/
Re: camel-jetty artifact name issue
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
Jetty9 requires JDK7, I think that holds the upgrading of other third part libraries.
It’s may save us some efforts if we just set the default version of camel-jetty to use Jetty8.
We can change the camel-jetty to use Jetty9 in Camel 2.16.0.
--
Willem Jiang
Red Hat, Inc.
Web: http://www.redhat.com
Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On March 5, 2015 at 5:26:51 PM, Claus Ibsen (claus.ibsen@gmail.com) wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Willem Jiang wrote:
> > I just give it a second thought, as we are in the middle of Jetty upgrading, it’s impossible
> for the user to use Jetty9 if they still want to use JDK6. How about we just publish the camel-jetty
> module on the base on camel-jetty8 and we can upgrade camel-jetty9 if it is ready?
>
> JDK6 ??? We dont support that. Do you mean JDK7?
>
> >
> > BTW, current camel-jetty feature is using camel-jetty8 bundle.
> >
> > --
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Red Hat, Inc.
> > Web: http://www.redhat.com
> > Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> > http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> >
> >
> > On March 5, 2015 at 3:57:25 PM, Claus Ibsen (claus.ibsen@gmail.com) wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Yeah I think that is a good idea.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Willem Jiang wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > We introduced camel-jetty8 and camel-jetty9 two modules in Camel 2.15-SNAPSHOT
> and
> >> camel-jetty is not exit any more.
> >> >
> >> > When I tried to run the tests of camelinaction, I have to change the pom.xml to choice
> >> camel-jetty8 or camel-jetty9 to run the test.
> >> >
> >> > My think we need to rename camel-jetty9 to camel-jetty to give the default choice
> for
> >> the user before cutting the camel 2.15.0.
> >> >
> >> > Any thought?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Willem Jiang
> >> >
> >> > Red Hat, Inc.
> >> > Web: http://www.redhat.com
> >> > Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> >> > http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
> >> > Twitter: willemjiang
> >> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Claus Ibsen
> >> -----------------
> >> Red Hat, Inc.
> >> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> >> Twitter: davsclaus
> >> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> >> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> >> hawtio: http://hawt.io/
> >> fabric8: http://fabric8.io/
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> Red Hat, Inc.
> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> Twitter: davsclaus
> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> hawtio: http://hawt.io/
> fabric8: http://fabric8.io/
>
Re: camel-jetty artifact name issue
Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just give it a second thought, as we are in the middle of Jetty upgrading, it’s impossible for the user to use Jetty9 if they still want to use JDK6. How about we just publish the camel-jetty module on the base on camel-jetty8 and we can upgrade camel-jetty9 if it is ready?
JDK6 ??? We dont support that. Do you mean JDK7?
>
> BTW, current camel-jetty feature is using camel-jetty8 bundle.
>
> --
> Willem Jiang
>
> Red Hat, Inc.
> Web: http://www.redhat.com
> Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
>
>
> On March 5, 2015 at 3:57:25 PM, Claus Ibsen (claus.ibsen@gmail.com) wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Yeah I think that is a good idea.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Willem Jiang wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > We introduced camel-jetty8 and camel-jetty9 two modules in Camel 2.15-SNAPSHOT and
>> camel-jetty is not exit any more.
>> >
>> > When I tried to run the tests of camelinaction, I have to change the pom.xml to choice
>> camel-jetty8 or camel-jetty9 to run the test.
>> >
>> > My think we need to rename camel-jetty9 to camel-jetty to give the default choice for
>> the user before cutting the camel 2.15.0.
>> >
>> > Any thought?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Willem Jiang
>> >
>> > Red Hat, Inc.
>> > Web: http://www.redhat.com
>> > Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
>> > http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
>> > Twitter: willemjiang
>> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -----------------
>> Red Hat, Inc.
>> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
>> Twitter: davsclaus
>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>> hawtio: http://hawt.io/
>> fabric8: http://fabric8.io/
>>
>
--
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
Red Hat, Inc.
Email: cibsen@redhat.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
hawtio: http://hawt.io/
fabric8: http://fabric8.io/
Re: camel-jetty artifact name issue
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
I just give it a second thought, as we are in the middle of Jetty upgrading, it’s impossible for the user to use Jetty9 if they still want to use JDK6. How about we just publish the camel-jetty module on the base on camel-jetty8 and we can upgrade camel-jetty9 if it is ready?
BTW, current camel-jetty feature is using camel-jetty8 bundle.
--
Willem Jiang
Red Hat, Inc.
Web: http://www.redhat.com
Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On March 5, 2015 at 3:57:25 PM, Claus Ibsen (claus.ibsen@gmail.com) wrote:
> Hi
>
> Yeah I think that is a good idea.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Willem Jiang wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > We introduced camel-jetty8 and camel-jetty9 two modules in Camel 2.15-SNAPSHOT and
> camel-jetty is not exit any more.
> >
> > When I tried to run the tests of camelinaction, I have to change the pom.xml to choice
> camel-jetty8 or camel-jetty9 to run the test.
> >
> > My think we need to rename camel-jetty9 to camel-jetty to give the default choice for
> the user before cutting the camel 2.15.0.
> >
> > Any thought?
> >
> > --
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Red Hat, Inc.
> > Web: http://www.redhat.com
> > Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> > http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> Red Hat, Inc.
> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> Twitter: davsclaus
> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> hawtio: http://hawt.io/
> fabric8: http://fabric8.io/
>
Re: camel-jetty artifact name issue
Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.
Hi
Yeah I think that is a good idea.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We introduced camel-jetty8 and camel-jetty9 two modules in Camel 2.15-SNAPSHOT and camel-jetty is not exit any more.
>
> When I tried to run the tests of camelinaction, I have to change the pom.xml to choice camel-jetty8 or camel-jetty9 to run the test.
>
> My think we need to rename camel-jetty9 to camel-jetty to give the default choice for the user before cutting the camel 2.15.0.
>
> Any thought?
>
> --
> Willem Jiang
>
> Red Hat, Inc.
> Web: http://www.redhat.com
> Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
>
>
--
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
Red Hat, Inc.
Email: cibsen@redhat.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
hawtio: http://hawt.io/
fabric8: http://fabric8.io/
Re: camel-jetty artifact name issue
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
No problem, but it means that it will force the users to use Jetty9 by
default (and so Karaf 4).
As the current stable release of Karaf is K3 (Jetty8), maybe renaming
camel-jetty8 to camel-jetty makes more sense.
Or just a release note to "force" users to use jetty8 or 9 (it's
transparent using the Karaf features afair).
Regards
JB
On 03/05/2015 08:36 AM, Willem Jiang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We introduced camel-jetty8 and camel-jetty9 two modules in Camel 2.15-SNAPSHOT and camel-jetty is not exit any more.
>
> When I tried to run the tests of camelinaction, I have to change the pom.xml to choice camel-jetty8 or camel-jetty9 to run the test.
>
> My think we need to rename camel-jetty9 to camel-jetty to give the default choice for the user before cutting the camel 2.15.0.
>
> Any thought?
>
> --
> Willem Jiang
>
> Red Hat, Inc.
> Web: http://www.redhat.com
> Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: camel-jetty artifact name issue
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Agree, it's what I tried to say in my previous e-mail.
Regards
JB
On 03/06/2015 03:32 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>
> I’d greatly prefer to leave the current setup and document/release note that the user needs to explicitly select which version they need or want to use.
>
> If we have to rename one, rename jetty9. Jetty8 is EOL and I would not want it to be the “default” going forward. (that said, we need to get the jetty 9 up to 9.2.9 level due to a security issue in 9.2.7)
>
> The setting in the Karaf features file can be a bit different as they would depend on what version of Karaf it’s using. Not much we can do about that as it’s whatever the Karaf community decided. Outside Karaf, we can at least provide the more secure alternative as the default.
>
> Dan
>
>
>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 2:36 AM, Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We introduced camel-jetty8 and camel-jetty9 two modules in Camel 2.15-SNAPSHOT and camel-jetty is not exit any more.
>>
>> When I tried to run the tests of camelinaction, I have to change the pom.xml to choice camel-jetty8 or camel-jetty9 to run the test.
>>
>> My think we need to rename camel-jetty9 to camel-jetty to give the default choice for the user before cutting the camel 2.15.0.
>>
>> Any thought?
>>
>> --
>> Willem Jiang
>>
>> Red Hat, Inc.
>> Web: http://www.redhat.com
>> Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
>> http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
>> Twitter: willemjiang
>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>
>>
>>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: camel-jetty artifact name issue
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
Current I didn’t rename the Jetty8 or Jetty9 module, I just added camel-jetty module back to provide the backward support[1]. I think we can move to use Jetty9 by default in Camel 2.16.x and just give the user some time to catch up.
[1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-8447
--
Willem Jiang
Red Hat, Inc.
Web: http://www.redhat.com
Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On March 6, 2015 at 10:32:53 PM, Daniel Kulp (dkulp@apache.org) wrote:
>
> I’d greatly prefer to leave the current setup and document/release note that the user
> needs to explicitly select which version they need or want to use.
>
> If we have to rename one, rename jetty9. Jetty8 is EOL and I would not want it to be the “default”
> going forward. (that said, we need to get the jetty 9 up to 9.2.9 level due to a security
> issue in 9.2.7)
>
> The setting in the Karaf features file can be a bit different as they would depend on what
> version of Karaf it’s using. Not much we can do about that as it’s whatever the Karaf community
> decided. Outside Karaf, we can at least provide the more secure alternative as the default.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Mar 5, 2015, at 2:36 AM, Willem Jiang wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > We introduced camel-jetty8 and camel-jetty9 two modules in Camel 2.15-SNAPSHOT and
> camel-jetty is not exit any more.
> >
> > When I tried to run the tests of camelinaction, I have to change the pom.xml to choice
> camel-jetty8 or camel-jetty9 to run the test.
> >
> > My think we need to rename camel-jetty9 to camel-jetty to give the default choice for
> the user before cutting the camel 2.15.0.
> >
> > Any thought?
> >
> > --
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Red Hat, Inc.
> > Web: http://www.redhat.com
> > Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> > http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>
>
Re: camel-jetty artifact name issue
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
+1 to include the Jetty9 upgrade into Camel 2.15.0.
--
Willem Jiang
Red Hat, Inc.
Web: http://www.redhat.com
Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On March 6, 2015 at 10:53:53 PM, Christian Schneider (chris@die-schneider.net) wrote:
> I agree with Dan and Claus that we should use camel-jetty9 as the
> default. With the short support periods of jetty we should suggest to
> that the new verson is the prefered one.
> I can tackle the version upgrade
> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-8451).
>
> Christian
>
> On 06.03.2015 15:32, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> > I’d greatly prefer to leave the current setup and document/release note that the user
> needs to explicitly select which version they need or want to use.
> >
> > If we have to rename one, rename jetty9. Jetty8 is EOL and I would not want it to be the “default”
> going forward. (that said, we need to get the jetty 9 up to 9.2.9 level due to a security
> issue in 9.2.7)
> >
> > The setting in the Karaf features file can be a bit different as they would depend on what
> version of Karaf it’s using. Not much we can do about that as it’s whatever the Karaf community
> decided. Outside Karaf, we can at least provide the more secure alternative as the default.
> >
> > Dan
> >
>
> --
> Christian Schneider
> http://www.liquid-reality.de
>
> Open Source Architect
> http://www.talend.com
>
>
Re: camel-jetty artifact name issue
Posted by Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net>.
I agree with Dan and Claus that we should use camel-jetty9 as the
default. With the short support periods of jetty we should suggest to
that the new verson is the prefered one.
I can tackle the version upgrade
(https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-8451).
Christian
On 06.03.2015 15:32, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> I’d greatly prefer to leave the current setup and document/release note that the user needs to explicitly select which version they need or want to use.
>
> If we have to rename one, rename jetty9. Jetty8 is EOL and I would not want it to be the “default” going forward. (that said, we need to get the jetty 9 up to 9.2.9 level due to a security issue in 9.2.7)
>
> The setting in the Karaf features file can be a bit different as they would depend on what version of Karaf it’s using. Not much we can do about that as it’s whatever the Karaf community decided. Outside Karaf, we can at least provide the more secure alternative as the default.
>
> Dan
>
--
Christian Schneider
http://www.liquid-reality.de
Open Source Architect
http://www.talend.com
Re: camel-jetty artifact name issue
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
I’d greatly prefer to leave the current setup and document/release note that the user needs to explicitly select which version they need or want to use.
If we have to rename one, rename jetty9. Jetty8 is EOL and I would not want it to be the “default” going forward. (that said, we need to get the jetty 9 up to 9.2.9 level due to a security issue in 9.2.7)
The setting in the Karaf features file can be a bit different as they would depend on what version of Karaf it’s using. Not much we can do about that as it’s whatever the Karaf community decided. Outside Karaf, we can at least provide the more secure alternative as the default.
Dan
> On Mar 5, 2015, at 2:36 AM, Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> We introduced camel-jetty8 and camel-jetty9 two modules in Camel 2.15-SNAPSHOT and camel-jetty is not exit any more.
>
> When I tried to run the tests of camelinaction, I have to change the pom.xml to choice camel-jetty8 or camel-jetty9 to run the test.
>
> My think we need to rename camel-jetty9 to camel-jetty to give the default choice for the user before cutting the camel 2.15.0.
>
> Any thought?
>
> --
> Willem Jiang
>
> Red Hat, Inc.
> Web: http://www.redhat.com
> Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
>
>
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com