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Malware
Greetings all:
It has been repeated on this list time and time again to only download Open Office from the actual official site. You must make sure you have the correct URL. And asking before you endeavor to strike out on the download may be a good idea if you have the least little doubt. There are many download sites, even from what you would expect would be malware free, but they are not. Please, ask if you have any doubt and think before you press that download to make sure you are getting what you expect to get. I have NEVER had any difficultY with malware of any sort from the official site and I have been using the product for years.
G Frost
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Re: Malware
Posted by Gary Frost <gl...@me.com>.
Things are hind sight after most disasters. The "Open Source" Community should, in general, make it better known about these hijack sites, but responsibility still lies with the user. These risks exist with commercial software too.
Bleeding Heart was not anticipated. Still the disaster had to be dealt with by everyone in one way or another. These things happen and so do self inflicted wounds through downloads. Responsibility rests with the end user to be as aware as possible of risks. Precautions need to be taken in ANY situation when downloading programs from any site. Microsoft has had some hijacks of its own along with big banks and the like.
Be ever vigilant.
GF
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> On May 12, 2014, at 12:40 AM, japples <ja...@europa.com> wrote:
>
> Great advice and, like you, I have never gotten malware from a download whether OO or ?? as I always research first.
>
> Unfortunately, your comments are kind of "hindsight" as these people won't find your wise words until they start searching for someone to blast.
>
> A quest for those of us who understand safe downloading is to help others learn how important it is to ensure downloads are from an official site.
> I am not computer literate enough to know how to spread this type of message. Is there something like Twitter or Facebook or ?? to pass learning thus prevent bad experience?
>
> Thank you for
>> -----
>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3722/6976 - Release Date: 05/11/14
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Malware
Posted by Martin Groenescheij <Ma...@Groenescheij.COM>.
On 13-5-2014 8:47, Julian Thomas wrote:
> On 12 May 2014, at 05:43, japples <ja...@europa.com> wrote:
>
>> Could a download script be smart enough to recognize (via non-editable script section) if it is being downloaded from an authentic site/page and flash a nauseating "Warning - download only from . . . " (blurb similar to your suggestion) if it wasn't?
>> Flashing a warning large enough to fill at least 1/3 of the screen would definitely get some attention and, probably, scare a lot of people!
> You probably should protect against the bad site editing out the warning. jt
Developers have no control over bad sites, but they have control over
their code.
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Re: Malware
Posted by Julian Thomas <jt...@jt-mj.net>.
On 12 May 2014, at 05:43, japples <ja...@europa.com> wrote:
> Could a download script be smart enough to recognize (via non-editable script section) if it is being downloaded from an authentic site/page and flash a nauseating "Warning - download only from . . . " (blurb similar to your suggestion) if it wasn't?
> Flashing a warning large enough to fill at least 1/3 of the screen would definitely get some attention and, probably, scare a lot of people!
You probably should protect against the bad site editing out the warning. jt
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Re: Malware
Posted by japples <ja...@europa.com>.
Martin wrote: "Why not display it to all, no difficult programming is
required. And by the way you only install it once." (Moved your comment
for clarity.)
My thought was to keep dignity and refinement for the authorized
download site / pages but add the tacky flashing warning for those sites
adding malware and/or ?? thus making life miserable for the unaware
(serves the unkind sites right for promoting other than OO written).
I am not sure what "And by the way you only install it once" fits into
our chat about ways to warn newbies to ensure they get the correct
download to start with.
Jack
Martin Groenescheij wrote:
>
> On 12-5-2014 19:43, japples wrote:
>> That sounds great, Martin.
>> Could a download script be smart enough to recognize (via
>> non-editable script section) if it is being downloaded from an
>> authentic site/page and flash a nauseating "Warning - download only
>> from . . . " (blurb similar to your suggestion) if it wasn't?
>> Flashing a warning large enough to fill at least 1/3 of the screen
>> would definitely get some attention and, probably, scare a lot of
>> people!
> Why not display it to all, no difficult programming is required. And
> by the way you only install it once.
>>
>> Thanks for listening
>> Jack
>
>
>
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Re: Malware
Posted by Martin Groenescheij <Ma...@Groenescheij.COM>.
On 12-5-2014 19:43, japples wrote:
> That sounds great, Martin.
> Could a download script be smart enough to recognize (via non-editable
> script section) if it is being downloaded from an authentic site/page
> and flash a nauseating "Warning - download only from . . . " (blurb
> similar to your suggestion) if it wasn't?
> Flashing a warning large enough to fill at least 1/3 of the screen
> would definitely get some attention and, probably, scare a lot of people!
Why not display it to all, no difficult programming is required. And by
the way you only install it once.
>
> Thanks for listening
> Jack
>
>
> Martin Groenescheij wrote:
>> The easiest way to warn novice users is a warning message in the
>> installation script.
>> Maybe something like:
>>
>>
>> "Make sure you have downloaded OpenOffice from one of these
>> sites Apache <http://www.apache.openoffice.org/> or Sourceforge
>> <http://sourceforge.net>"
>>
>>
>
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Re: Malware
Posted by japples <ja...@europa.com>.
That sounds great, Martin.
Could a download script be smart enough to recognize (via non-editable
script section) if it is being downloaded from an authentic site/page
and flash a nauseating "Warning - download only from . . . " (blurb
similar to your suggestion) if it wasn't?
Flashing a warning large enough to fill at least 1/3 of the screen would
definitely get some attention and, probably, scare a lot of people!
Thanks for listening
Jack
Martin Groenescheij wrote:
> The easiest way to warn novice users is a warning message in the
> installation script.
> Maybe something like:
>
>
> "Make sure you have downloaded OpenOffice from one of these
> sites Apache <http://www.apache.openoffice.org/> or Sourceforge
> <http://sourceforge.net>"
>
>
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Re: Malware
Posted by Martin Groenescheij <ma...@groenescheij.com>.
Sent from my mobile device.
> On 12 May 2014, at 11:38 pm, Gary Frost <gl...@me.com> wrote:
>
> I agree and have thought about that too, but the "evildoers" would remove it most likely.
If the "evildoers" change the code without making users aware you "Apache" can sue them.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 12, 2014, at 1:21 AM, Martin Groenescheij <Ma...@Groenescheij.COM> wrote:
>>
>> The easiest way to warn novice users is a warning message in the installation script.
>> Maybe something like:
>>
>>
>> "Make sure you have downloaded OpenOffice from one of these
>> sites Apache <http://www.apache.openoffice.org/> or Sourceforge
>> <http://sourceforge.net>"
>>
>>
>>> On 12-5-2014 16:40, japples wrote:
>>> Great advice and, like you, I have never gotten malware from a download whether OO or ?? as I always research first.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, your comments are kind of "hindsight" as these people won't find your wise words until they start searching for someone to blast.
>>>
>>> A quest for those of us who understand safe downloading is to help others learn how important it is to ensure downloads are from an official site.
>>> I am not computer literate enough to know how to spread this type of message. Is there something like Twitter or Facebook or ?? to pass learning thus prevent bad experience?
>>>
>>> Thank you for listening
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> Gary Frost wrote:
>>>> Greetings all:
>>>>
>>>> It has been repeated on this list time and time again to only download Open Office from the actual official site. You must make sure you have the correct URL. And asking before you endeavor to strike out on the download may be a good idea if you have the least little doubt. There are many download sites, even from what you would expect would be malware free, but they are not. Please, ask if you have any doubt and think before you press that download to make sure you are getting what you expect to get. I have NEVER had any difficultY with malware of any sort from the official site and I have been using the product for years.
>>>>
>>>> G Frost
>>>> ------
>>>> No virus found in this message.
>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>> Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3722/6976 - Release Date: 05/11/14
>
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Re: Malware
Posted by Gary Frost <gl...@me.com>.
I agree and have thought about that too, but the "evildoers" would remove it most likely.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 12, 2014, at 1:21 AM, Martin Groenescheij <Ma...@Groenescheij.COM> wrote:
>
> The easiest way to warn novice users is a warning message in the installation script.
> Maybe something like:
>
>
> "Make sure you have downloaded OpenOffice from one of these
> sites Apache <http://www.apache.openoffice.org/> or Sourceforge
> <http://sourceforge.net>"
>
>
>> On 12-5-2014 16:40, japples wrote:
>> Great advice and, like you, I have never gotten malware from a download whether OO or ?? as I always research first.
>>
>> Unfortunately, your comments are kind of "hindsight" as these people won't find your wise words until they start searching for someone to blast.
>>
>> A quest for those of us who understand safe downloading is to help others learn how important it is to ensure downloads are from an official site.
>> I am not computer literate enough to know how to spread this type of message. Is there something like Twitter or Facebook or ?? to pass learning thus prevent bad experience?
>>
>> Thank you for listening
>> Jack
>>
>> Gary Frost wrote:
>>> Greetings all:
>>>
>>> It has been repeated on this list time and time again to only download Open Office from the actual official site. You must make sure you have the correct URL. And asking before you endeavor to strike out on the download may be a good idea if you have the least little doubt. There are many download sites, even from what you would expect would be malware free, but they are not. Please, ask if you have any doubt and think before you press that download to make sure you are getting what you expect to get. I have NEVER had any difficultY with malware of any sort from the official site and I have been using the product for years.
>>>
>>> G Frost
>>> ------
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3722/6976 - Release Date: 05/11/14
>
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Re: Malware
Posted by Martin Groenescheij <Ma...@Groenescheij.COM>.
The easiest way to warn novice users is a warning message in the
installation script.
Maybe something like:
"Make sure you have downloaded OpenOffice from one of these
sites Apache <http://www.apache.openoffice.org/> or Sourceforge
<http://sourceforge.net>"
On 12-5-2014 16:40, japples wrote:
> Great advice and, like you, I have never gotten malware from a
> download whether OO or ?? as I always research first.
>
> Unfortunately, your comments are kind of "hindsight" as these people
> won't find your wise words until they start searching for someone to
> blast.
>
> A quest for those of us who understand safe downloading is to help
> others learn how important it is to ensure downloads are from an
> official site.
> I am not computer literate enough to know how to spread this type of
> message. Is there something like Twitter or Facebook or ?? to pass
> learning thus prevent bad experience?
>
> Thank you for listening
> Jack
>
> Gary Frost wrote:
>> Greetings all:
>>
>> It has been repeated on this list time and time again to only
>> download Open Office from the actual official site. You must make
>> sure you have the correct URL. And asking before you endeavor to
>> strike out on the download may be a good idea if you have the least
>> little doubt. There are many download sites, even from what you would
>> expect would be malware free, but they are not. Please, ask if you
>> have any doubt and think before you press that download to make sure
>> you are getting what you expect to get. I have NEVER had any
>> difficultY with malware of any sort from the official site and I have
>> been using the product for years.
>>
>> G Frost
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>>
>>
>> -----
>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3722/6976 - Release Date:
>> 05/11/14
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Malware
Posted by japples <ja...@europa.com>.
Great advice and, like you, I have never gotten malware from a download
whether OO or ?? as I always research first.
Unfortunately, your comments are kind of "hindsight" as these people
won't find your wise words until they start searching for someone to blast.
A quest for those of us who understand safe downloading is to help
others learn how important it is to ensure downloads are from an
official site.
I am not computer literate enough to know how to spread this type of
message. Is there something like Twitter or Facebook or ?? to pass
learning thus prevent bad experience?
Thank you for listening
Jack
Gary Frost wrote:
> Greetings all:
>
> It has been repeated on this list time and time again to only download Open Office from the actual official site. You must make sure you have the correct URL. And asking before you endeavor to strike out on the download may be a good idea if you have the least little doubt. There are many download sites, even from what you would expect would be malware free, but they are not. Please, ask if you have any doubt and think before you press that download to make sure you are getting what you expect to get. I have NEVER had any difficultY with malware of any sort from the official site and I have been using the product for years.
>
> G Frost
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>
> -----
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> Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3722/6976 - Release Date: 05/11/14
>
>
>
>
Re: Malware
Posted by Tony Gallas <to...@spin.net.au>.
I agree entirely. If there is an official site, NEVER EVER download from
a third party. This applies not only to Open Office but to all software.
I got caught once, and that was enough to put me off using third party
sources forever.
On 12/05/2014 3:29 PM, Gary Frost wrote:
> Greetings all:
>
> It has been repeated on this list time and time again to only download Open Office from the actual official site. You must make sure you have the correct URL. And asking before you endeavor to strike out on the download may be a good idea if you have the least little doubt. There are many download sites, even from what you would expect would be malware free, but they are not. Please, ask if you have any doubt and think before you press that download to make sure you are getting what you expect to get. I have NEVER had any difficultY with malware of any sort from the official site and I have been using the product for years.
>
> G Frost
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Re: Malware
Posted by TN Patriot <ir...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, 11 May 2014 23:59:31 -0600
Gary Frost <ga...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings all:
>
> It has been repeated on this list time and time again to only download Open Office
> from the actual official site. You must make sure you have the correct URL. And
> asking before you endeavor to strike out on the download may be a good idea if you
> have the least little doubt. There are many download sites, even from what you
> would expect would be malware free, but they are not. Please, ask if you have any
> doubt and think before you press that download to make sure you are getting what
> you expect to get. I have NEVER had any difficultY with malware of any sort from
> the official site and I have been using the product for years.
>
> G Frost
You're trying to get people who shouldn't have a computer in the first place to
'get a little smarter and think before acting'...good luck with that because there
will *always* be those who refuse to think first and *then* put the car in gear.
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