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Posted to users@flex.apache.org by mo...@comcast.net on 2014/04/22 18:46:04 UTC
enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file to
user?
My enterprise Flex desktop web app (yet to be released) has a feature allowing users to download a user guide for the application.
Since this file gets stored on a user's hard drive (rather than cache memory), I wonder if anyone ever ran into problems with an enterprise not allowing their employees to download a file from the internet to their hard drive (for example, the IT department blocks this kind of functionality)?
If so, I could change the web app to attaching the file in an e-mail and sending it to them instead.
Wondering if anyone has an opinion one way or the other which way to go here.
Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file
to user?
Posted by mo...@comcast.net.
Thanks for clarifying.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Thayne" <se...@skyseek.com>
To: users@flex.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:05:55 AM
Subject: Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file to user?
If you use navigateToURL(), your basically piggy backing on the browser to
handle the download.
The File.* is only used if your using Flex to handle the download.
-Sean Thayne
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:57 AM, <mo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I'm confused. I'm downloading the file using navigateToURL() that points
> to a java servlet to download the file. The user sees the browser open a
> popup window to either save the file to a specific folder or choose a
> program to open it (in which case the default seems to be to save the file
> in the Download folder, on a mac at least). Is there something additional I
> should do that uses File.documentsDirectory or
> File.applicationStorageDirectory? If so, can you walk me through it?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Sean Thayne" <se...@skyseek.com>
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:51:18 AM
> Subject: Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a
> file to user?
>
> Actually, I would think File.applicationStorageDirectory would work best.
> Especially with the new Apple sand boxing.
>
> -Sean Thayne
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Lee Burrows
> <su...@leeburrows.com>wrote:
>
> > I would guess that saving to File.documentsDirectory offers best chance
> of
> > avoiding any enterprise security restrictions
> >
> >
> > On 22/04/2014 18:35, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Sean. That's fine -- as long as they can originally download it
> to
> >> view it.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >> From: "Sean Thayne" <se...@skyseek.com>
> >> To: users@flex.apache.org
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:27:40 AM
> >> Subject: Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a
> >> file to user?
> >>
> >> I know that schools usually have a temp drives, that get cleared on
> >> reboot.
> >>
> >> -Sean Thayne
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:46 AM, <mo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> My enterprise Flex desktop web app (yet to be released) has a feature
> >>> allowing users to download a user guide for the application.
> >>>
> >>> Since this file gets stored on a user's hard drive (rather than cache
> >>> memory), I wonder if anyone ever ran into problems with an enterprise
> not
> >>> allowing their employees to download a file from the internet to their
> >>> hard
> >>> drive (for example, the IT department blocks this kind of
> functionality)?
> >>>
> >>> If so, I could change the web app to attaching the file in an e-mail
> and
> >>> sending it to them instead.
> >>>
> >>> Wondering if anyone has an opinion one way or the other which way to go
> >>> here.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Lee Burrows
> > ActionScripter
> >
> >
>
>
Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file to user?
Posted by Sean Thayne <se...@skyseek.com>.
If you use navigateToURL(), your basically piggy backing on the browser to
handle the download.
The File.* is only used if your using Flex to handle the download.
-Sean Thayne
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:57 AM, <mo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I'm confused. I'm downloading the file using navigateToURL() that points
> to a java servlet to download the file. The user sees the browser open a
> popup window to either save the file to a specific folder or choose a
> program to open it (in which case the default seems to be to save the file
> in the Download folder, on a mac at least). Is there something additional I
> should do that uses File.documentsDirectory or
> File.applicationStorageDirectory? If so, can you walk me through it?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Sean Thayne" <se...@skyseek.com>
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:51:18 AM
> Subject: Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a
> file to user?
>
> Actually, I would think File.applicationStorageDirectory would work best.
> Especially with the new Apple sand boxing.
>
> -Sean Thayne
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Lee Burrows
> <su...@leeburrows.com>wrote:
>
> > I would guess that saving to File.documentsDirectory offers best chance
> of
> > avoiding any enterprise security restrictions
> >
> >
> > On 22/04/2014 18:35, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Sean. That's fine -- as long as they can originally download it
> to
> >> view it.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >> From: "Sean Thayne" <se...@skyseek.com>
> >> To: users@flex.apache.org
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:27:40 AM
> >> Subject: Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a
> >> file to user?
> >>
> >> I know that schools usually have a temp drives, that get cleared on
> >> reboot.
> >>
> >> -Sean Thayne
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:46 AM, <mo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> My enterprise Flex desktop web app (yet to be released) has a feature
> >>> allowing users to download a user guide for the application.
> >>>
> >>> Since this file gets stored on a user's hard drive (rather than cache
> >>> memory), I wonder if anyone ever ran into problems with an enterprise
> not
> >>> allowing their employees to download a file from the internet to their
> >>> hard
> >>> drive (for example, the IT department blocks this kind of
> functionality)?
> >>>
> >>> If so, I could change the web app to attaching the file in an e-mail
> and
> >>> sending it to them instead.
> >>>
> >>> Wondering if anyone has an opinion one way or the other which way to go
> >>> here.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Lee Burrows
> > ActionScripter
> >
> >
>
>
Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file
to user?
Posted by mo...@comcast.net.
I'm confused. I'm downloading the file using navigateToURL() that points to a java servlet to download the file. The user sees the browser open a popup window to either save the file to a specific folder or choose a program to open it (in which case the default seems to be to save the file in the Download folder, on a mac at least). Is there something additional I should do that uses File.documentsDirectory or File.applicationStorageDirectory? If so, can you walk me through it?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Thayne" <se...@skyseek.com>
To: users@flex.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:51:18 AM
Subject: Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file to user?
Actually, I would think File.applicationStorageDirectory would work best.
Especially with the new Apple sand boxing.
-Sean Thayne
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Lee Burrows
<su...@leeburrows.com>wrote:
> I would guess that saving to File.documentsDirectory offers best chance of
> avoiding any enterprise security restrictions
>
>
> On 22/04/2014 18:35, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Thanks Sean. That's fine -- as long as they can originally download it to
>> view it.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Sean Thayne" <se...@skyseek.com>
>> To: users@flex.apache.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:27:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a
>> file to user?
>>
>> I know that schools usually have a temp drives, that get cleared on
>> reboot.
>>
>> -Sean Thayne
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:46 AM, <mo...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> My enterprise Flex desktop web app (yet to be released) has a feature
>>> allowing users to download a user guide for the application.
>>>
>>> Since this file gets stored on a user's hard drive (rather than cache
>>> memory), I wonder if anyone ever ran into problems with an enterprise not
>>> allowing their employees to download a file from the internet to their
>>> hard
>>> drive (for example, the IT department blocks this kind of functionality)?
>>>
>>> If so, I could change the web app to attaching the file in an e-mail and
>>> sending it to them instead.
>>>
>>> Wondering if anyone has an opinion one way or the other which way to go
>>> here.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Lee Burrows
> ActionScripter
>
>
Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file to user?
Posted by Sean Thayne <se...@skyseek.com>.
Actually, I would think File.applicationStorageDirectory would work best.
Especially with the new Apple sand boxing.
-Sean Thayne
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Lee Burrows
<su...@leeburrows.com>wrote:
> I would guess that saving to File.documentsDirectory offers best chance of
> avoiding any enterprise security restrictions
>
>
> On 22/04/2014 18:35, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Thanks Sean. That's fine -- as long as they can originally download it to
>> view it.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Sean Thayne" <se...@skyseek.com>
>> To: users@flex.apache.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:27:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a
>> file to user?
>>
>> I know that schools usually have a temp drives, that get cleared on
>> reboot.
>>
>> -Sean Thayne
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:46 AM, <mo...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> My enterprise Flex desktop web app (yet to be released) has a feature
>>> allowing users to download a user guide for the application.
>>>
>>> Since this file gets stored on a user's hard drive (rather than cache
>>> memory), I wonder if anyone ever ran into problems with an enterprise not
>>> allowing their employees to download a file from the internet to their
>>> hard
>>> drive (for example, the IT department blocks this kind of functionality)?
>>>
>>> If so, I could change the web app to attaching the file in an e-mail and
>>> sending it to them instead.
>>>
>>> Wondering if anyone has an opinion one way or the other which way to go
>>> here.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Lee Burrows
> ActionScripter
>
>
Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file
to user?
Posted by Lee Burrows <su...@leeburrows.com>.
I would guess that saving to File.documentsDirectory offers best chance
of avoiding any enterprise security restrictions
On 22/04/2014 18:35, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
> Thanks Sean. That's fine -- as long as they can originally download it to view it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Sean Thayne" <se...@skyseek.com>
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:27:40 AM
> Subject: Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file to user?
>
> I know that schools usually have a temp drives, that get cleared on reboot.
>
> -Sean Thayne
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:46 AM, <mo...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> My enterprise Flex desktop web app (yet to be released) has a feature
>> allowing users to download a user guide for the application.
>>
>> Since this file gets stored on a user's hard drive (rather than cache
>> memory), I wonder if anyone ever ran into problems with an enterprise not
>> allowing their employees to download a file from the internet to their hard
>> drive (for example, the IT department blocks this kind of functionality)?
>>
>> If so, I could change the web app to attaching the file in an e-mail and
>> sending it to them instead.
>>
>> Wondering if anyone has an opinion one way or the other which way to go
>> here.
>>
>
--
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter
Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file
to user?
Posted by mo...@comcast.net.
Thanks Sean. That's fine -- as long as they can originally download it to view it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Thayne" <se...@skyseek.com>
To: users@flex.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:27:40 AM
Subject: Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file to user?
I know that schools usually have a temp drives, that get cleared on reboot.
-Sean Thayne
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:46 AM, <mo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> My enterprise Flex desktop web app (yet to be released) has a feature
> allowing users to download a user guide for the application.
>
> Since this file gets stored on a user's hard drive (rather than cache
> memory), I wonder if anyone ever ran into problems with an enterprise not
> allowing their employees to download a file from the internet to their hard
> drive (for example, the IT department blocks this kind of functionality)?
>
> If so, I could change the web app to attaching the file in an e-mail and
> sending it to them instead.
>
> Wondering if anyone has an opinion one way or the other which way to go
> here.
>
Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file to user?
Posted by Sean Thayne <se...@skyseek.com>.
I know that schools usually have a temp drives, that get cleared on reboot.
-Sean Thayne
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:46 AM, <mo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> My enterprise Flex desktop web app (yet to be released) has a feature
> allowing users to download a user guide for the application.
>
> Since this file gets stored on a user's hard drive (rather than cache
> memory), I wonder if anyone ever ran into problems with an enterprise not
> allowing their employees to download a file from the internet to their hard
> drive (for example, the IT department blocks this kind of functionality)?
>
> If so, I could change the web app to attaching the file in an e-mail and
> sending it to them instead.
>
> Wondering if anyone has an opinion one way or the other which way to go
> here.
>
Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file
to user?
Posted by Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com>.
On 23/04/14 12:10, mark.kessler.ctr@usmc.mil wrote:
> Not ours, it creates a secured tunnel in which we can transfer any file.
Well, you can get creative as defender or attacker :)
Tom
RE: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file
to user?
Posted by ma...@usmc.mil.
> Of course they can, anything from a read only temporary files area to a
> content filtering proxy.
Not ours, it creates a secured tunnel in which we can transfer any file. This is due to the nature of PKI with the clients/server certificates. They cannot play man in the middle or the client cannot authenticate with the server.
-Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:tc@extravision.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:57 AM
To: users@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file to user?
On 23/04/14 10:49, mark.kessler.ctr@usmc.mil wrote:
> If your connect is https to a site you are allowed too, they will not be able to block a file download.
Of course they can, anything from a read only temporary files area to a
content filtering proxy.
I'd provide both on (http(s)) and offline (email) options, as long as
you thing this might be an issue for your users, then you are covered.
We've probably spent more time discussing it then adding the button to
the Flex app and server-side support for sending an email :-)
Tom
Re: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file
to user?
Posted by Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com>.
On 23/04/14 10:49, mark.kessler.ctr@usmc.mil wrote:
> If your connect is https to a site you are allowed too, they will not be able to block a file download.
Of course they can, anything from a read only temporary files area to a
content filtering proxy.
I'd provide both on (http(s)) and offline (email) options, as long as
you thing this might be an issue for your users, then you are covered.
We've probably spent more time discussing it then adding the button to
the Flex app and server-side support for sending an email :-)
Tom
RE: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file
to user?
Posted by ma...@usmc.mil.
If your connect is https to a site you are allowed too, they will not be able to block a file download.
-Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: modjklist@comcast.net [mailto:modjklist@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:46 PM
To: apache flex users
Subject: enterprise desktop web app: should it download or email a file to user?
My enterprise Flex desktop web app (yet to be released) has a feature allowing users to download a user guide for the application.
Since this file gets stored on a user's hard drive (rather than cache memory), I wonder if anyone ever ran into problems with an enterprise not allowing their employees to download a file from the internet to their hard drive (for example, the IT department blocks this kind of functionality)?
If so, I could change the web app to attaching the file in an e-mail and sending it to them instead.
Wondering if anyone has an opinion one way or the other which way to go here.