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Posted to dev@fineract.apache.org by Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org> on 2018/10/31 07:57:43 UTC
Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Hello everyone,
I'm following up on this thread because we still haven't made progress with
eliminating Category X dependencies in Fineract CN which Yannick evoked
half a year ago.
@Myrle and @Awasum, I've read through this thread and I second Sendoro's
suggestion that we completely move Fineract CN's dependence on MariaDB to
PosgreSQL instead. Besides MariaDB's license
<https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/licensing-faq/> being an inadmissible
Category X dependency, PostgreSQL is Apache-compliant and is a good
alternative for MariaDB.
I think this will entail writing an equivalent library to
fineract-cn-mariadb <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-mariadb> which
we can name *fineract-cn-postgresql*. It may use the OpenJPA ORM which
replaces Hibernate and use PostgreSQL's PgJDBC driver. I've started
dabbling with this and will share the link to the code base tomorrow.
I want to work on this task and share my thoughts, challenges and progress
here with you too.
What do you think about it ?
Cheers,
Isaac Kamga.
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:13 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> I think that's an excellent suggestion Sendoro. Would you like to
> take the lead on that? I'd be happy to provide you with any help you
> need to make it happen!
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa>
> wrote:
> > Dear Myrle,
> >
> > It may be irrelevant, but let me shoot anyway...!!!... please don't
> through stones onto me.
> >
> > PostgreSQL is believe to have very/most liberal license... as matter of
> facts... it will avoid now and any future license conflict.
> >
> > The question is then, why don't we select PostgreSQL as our default DBMS?
> >
> > - is it related with our skill set? or
> > - it is more just related to smooth transfer from MySQL to MariaDB?
> >
> > Taking into Finaract CN project take a revolution approach from its
> predecessor Finaract; why also not take same approach on database?
> > - after-all Fineract CN Architecture is decoupled from reliance on
> particular database system...
> >
> >
> > Refer
> > https://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/
> > https://www.postgresql.org/list/
> > https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Sendoro
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Myrle Krantz" <my...@apache.org>
> > To: "dev" <de...@fineract.apache.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 9:44:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate
> to OpenJPA Migration.
> >
> > Thank you Sendoro,
> >
> > It's much appreciated.
> >
> > FYI: I've captured the MariaDB work items in 2 new tickets:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-26
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-27
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa>
> wrote:
> >> Hello Myrle,
> >>
> >> I got you.
> >>
> >> Let me know if there is any other component need to be checked!
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Sendoro
>
Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Posted by Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>.
+1.
Someone had contacted me offlist with a ...creative approach to
resolving this problem which would have been much easier. But that
approach won't come to fruition after all in our time frame.
My apologies for blocking on this. It seems clear in retrospect that
I shouldn't have.
Best Regards,
Myrle
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 8:58 AM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm following up on this thread because we still haven't made progress with
> eliminating Category X dependencies in Fineract CN which Yannick evoked
> half a year ago.
>
> @Myrle and @Awasum, I've read through this thread and I second Sendoro's
> suggestion that we completely move Fineract CN's dependence on MariaDB to
> PosgreSQL instead. Besides MariaDB's license
> <https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/licensing-faq/> being an inadmissible
> Category X dependency, PostgreSQL is Apache-compliant and is a good
> alternative for MariaDB.
>
> I think this will entail writing an equivalent library to
> fineract-cn-mariadb <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-mariadb> which
> we can name *fineract-cn-postgresql*. It may use the OpenJPA ORM which
> replaces Hibernate and use PostgreSQL's PgJDBC driver. I've started
> dabbling with this and will share the link to the code base tomorrow.
>
> I want to work on this task and share my thoughts, challenges and progress
> here with you too.
>
> What do you think about it ?
>
> Cheers,
> Isaac Kamga.
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:13 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I think that's an excellent suggestion Sendoro. Would you like to
> > take the lead on that? I'd be happy to provide you with any help you
> > need to make it happen!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa>
> > wrote:
> > > Dear Myrle,
> > >
> > > It may be irrelevant, but let me shoot anyway...!!!... please don't
> > through stones onto me.
> > >
> > > PostgreSQL is believe to have very/most liberal license... as matter of
> > facts... it will avoid now and any future license conflict.
> > >
> > > The question is then, why don't we select PostgreSQL as our default DBMS?
> > >
> > > - is it related with our skill set? or
> > > - it is more just related to smooth transfer from MySQL to MariaDB?
> > >
> > > Taking into Finaract CN project take a revolution approach from its
> > predecessor Finaract; why also not take same approach on database?
> > > - after-all Fineract CN Architecture is decoupled from reliance on
> > particular database system...
> > >
> > >
> > > Refer
> > > https://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/
> > > https://www.postgresql.org/list/
> > > https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Sendoro
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Myrle Krantz" <my...@apache.org>
> > > To: "dev" <de...@fineract.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 9:44:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate
> > to OpenJPA Migration.
> > >
> > > Thank you Sendoro,
> > >
> > > It's much appreciated.
> > >
> > > FYI: I've captured the MariaDB work items in 2 new tickets:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-26
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-27
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Myrle
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa>
> > wrote:
> > >> Hello Myrle,
> > >>
> > >> I got you.
> > >>
> > >> Let me know if there is any other component need to be checked!
> > >>
> > >> Cheers
> > >> Sendoro
> >
Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Posted by Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa>.
+1
As I believe PostgreSQL has been the more open source than their counter part at least....
>
> On October 31, 2018 at 10:57 AM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm following up on this thread because we still haven't made progress with
> eliminating Category X dependencies in Fineract CN which Yannick evoked
> half a year ago.
>
> @Myrle and @Awasum, I've read through this thread and I second Sendoro's
> suggestion that we completely move Fineract CN's dependence on MariaDB to
> PosgreSQL instead. Besides MariaDB's license
> <https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/licensing-faq/> being an inadmissible
> Category X dependency, PostgreSQL is Apache-compliant and is a good
> alternative for MariaDB.
>
> I think this will entail writing an equivalent library to
> fineract-cn-mariadb <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-mariadb> which
> we can name *fineract-cn-postgresql*. It may use the OpenJPA ORM which
> replaces Hibernate and use PostgreSQL's PgJDBC driver. I've started
> dabbling with this and will share the link to the code base tomorrow.
>
> I want to work on this task and share my thoughts, challenges and progress
> here with you too.
>
> What do you think about it ?
>
> Cheers,
> Isaac Kamga.
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:13 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > >
> > I think that's an excellent suggestion Sendoro. Would you like to
> > take the lead on that? I'd be happy to provide you with any help you
> > need to make it happen!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > >
> > > Dear Myrle,
> > >
> > > It may be irrelevant, but let me shoot anyway...!!!... please don't
> > > through stones onto me.
> > >
> > > PostgreSQL is believe to have very/most liberal license... as matter of
> > > facts... it will avoid now and any future license conflict.
> > >
> > > The question is then, why don't we select PostgreSQL as our default DBMS?
> > >
> > > * is it related with our skill set? or
> > > * it is more just related to smooth transfer from MySQL to MariaDB?
> > >
> > > Taking into Finaract CN project take a revolution approach from its
> > > predecessor Finaract; why also not take same approach on database?
> > >
> > > * after-all Fineract CN Architecture is decoupled from reliance on
> > > particular database system...
> > >
> > > Refer
> > > https://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/
> > > https://www.postgresql.org/list/
> > > https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Sendoro
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Myrle Krantz" <my...@apache.org>
> > > To: "dev" <de...@fineract.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 9:44:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate
> > > to OpenJPA Migration.
> > >
> > > Thank you Sendoro,
> > >
> > > It's much appreciated.
> > >
> > > FYI: I've captured the MariaDB work items in 2 new tickets:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-26
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-27
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Myrle
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > Hello Myrle,
> > > >
> > > > I got you.
> > > >
> > > > Let me know if there is any other component need to be checked!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Sendoro
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
With Best Regards
Sendoro Juma
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Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Posted by Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>.
Happy weekend fineracters,
I have created an issue for the MariaDB to PostgreSQL migration [1]
alongside 14 sub-tasks [2] so work continues in this regard.
I hope this helps.
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-113
[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-14 to
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-127
Cheers,
Isaac Kamga.
On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 2:59 AM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org> wrote:
> Thanks for the clarification Markus and Myrle.
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:43 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hey Isaac,
>>
>> Hibernate validator was always Apache licensed. It's Hibernate JPA which
>> is the problem.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Myrle
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 1:55 AM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Happy weekend fineracters,
>> >
>> > It appears the hibernate-validator is Apache licensed as this link[1]
>> > shows ? Their license probably changed sometime this year.
>> > Is there any other hibernate tool which we used to develop Fineract CN ?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Isaac Kamga.
>> >
>> > [1]
>> >
>> https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-validator/blob/master/license.txt
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 1:43 PM Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Indeed Hurray to you!!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> With Best Regards
>> >>
>> >> Sendoro
>> >>
>> >> On November 20, 2018 at 3:06 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hurray !
>> >>
>> >> It took about a dozen hours for the created repo to show option "...or
>> >> push
>> >> existing repo from command line" on my end although it finally did.
>> >>
>> >> So the PostgreSQL repo is now on Apache Infrastructure
>> >> <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and work can
>> continue
>> >> on
>> >> there.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello there,
>> >>
>> >> The INFRA team has created the repo
>> >> <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and I can't push
>> to it
>> >> because I don't have the right karma to do so.
>> >>
>> >> Can anyone on the PMC get the code
>> >> <https://github.com/Izakey/fineract-cn-postgresql> I've worked on and
>> >> push it to the newly created repository ?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Isaac Kamga.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:06 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello there,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your response Myrle.
>> >>
>> >> I tried creating a repo using these instructions
>> >> <
>> >>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Working+with+gitbox+to+contribute+to+Apache+Fineract+CN
>> >
>> >> and
>> >> hit an error, so I created an INFRA ticket
>> >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17273> to address it.
>> >>
>> >> In the meantime, if anyone is able to successfully create the ticket
>> >> using the details in the aforementioned ticket's description, it will
>> be a
>> >> step in the right direction.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Isaac Kamga.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:59 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hey Isaac,
>> >>
>> >> Awesome Isaac. In general it's better to put stuff into Apache Infra
>> >> earlier rather than later. Things don't have to be finished. You're a
>> >> committer, so you have all the karma you need to create that repo. If
>> no
>> >> one else objects, then do it.
>> >>
>> >> : o),
>> >> Myrle
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> With Best Regards
>> >>
>> >> Sendoro Juma
>> >>
>> >> -------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> SingoAfrica Limited
>> >> Mbezi Beach | Bagamoyo Road | 7 Nakawale Str.
>> >>
>> >> P.O BOX 78908 | 14121 Dar es Salaam
>> >>
>> >> info@singo.africa | +255 71 262 8896 | singo.africa | amala.co.tz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Posted by Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>.
Thanks for the clarification Markus and Myrle.
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:43 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey Isaac,
>
> Hibernate validator was always Apache licensed. It's Hibernate JPA which
> is the problem.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
>
> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 1:55 AM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org> wrote:
>
> > Happy weekend fineracters,
> >
> > It appears the hibernate-validator is Apache licensed as this link[1]
> > shows ? Their license probably changed sometime this year.
> > Is there any other hibernate tool which we used to develop Fineract CN ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Isaac Kamga.
> >
> > [1]
> > https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-validator/blob/master/license.txt
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 1:43 PM Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Indeed Hurray to you!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> With Best Regards
> >>
> >> Sendoro
> >>
> >> On November 20, 2018 at 3:06 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hurray !
> >>
> >> It took about a dozen hours for the created repo to show option "...or
> >> push
> >> existing repo from command line" on my end although it finally did.
> >>
> >> So the PostgreSQL repo is now on Apache Infrastructure
> >> <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and work can
> continue
> >> on
> >> there.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello there,
> >>
> >> The INFRA team has created the repo
> >> <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and I can't push to
> it
> >> because I don't have the right karma to do so.
> >>
> >> Can anyone on the PMC get the code
> >> <https://github.com/Izakey/fineract-cn-postgresql> I've worked on and
> >> push it to the newly created repository ?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Isaac Kamga.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:06 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello there,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your response Myrle.
> >>
> >> I tried creating a repo using these instructions
> >> <
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Working+with+gitbox+to+contribute+to+Apache+Fineract+CN
> >
> >> and
> >> hit an error, so I created an INFRA ticket
> >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17273> to address it.
> >>
> >> In the meantime, if anyone is able to successfully create the ticket
> >> using the details in the aforementioned ticket's description, it will
> be a
> >> step in the right direction.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Isaac Kamga.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:59 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey Isaac,
> >>
> >> Awesome Isaac. In general it's better to put stuff into Apache Infra
> >> earlier rather than later. Things don't have to be finished. You're a
> >> committer, so you have all the karma you need to create that repo. If no
> >> one else objects, then do it.
> >>
> >> : o),
> >> Myrle
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> With Best Regards
> >>
> >> Sendoro Juma
> >>
> >> -------------------------------
> >>
> >> SingoAfrica Limited
> >> Mbezi Beach | Bagamoyo Road | 7 Nakawale Str.
> >>
> >> P.O BOX 78908 | 14121 Dar es Salaam
> >>
> >> info@singo.africa | +255 71 262 8896 | singo.africa | amala.co.tz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Posted by Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>.
Hey Isaac,
Hibernate validator was always Apache licensed. It's Hibernate JPA which
is the problem.
Best Regards,
Myrle
On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 1:55 AM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org> wrote:
> Happy weekend fineracters,
>
> It appears the hibernate-validator is Apache licensed as this link[1]
> shows ? Their license probably changed sometime this year.
> Is there any other hibernate tool which we used to develop Fineract CN ?
>
> Cheers,
> Isaac Kamga.
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-validator/blob/master/license.txt
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 1:43 PM Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa> wrote:
>
>> Indeed Hurray to you!!!
>>
>>
>> With Best Regards
>>
>> Sendoro
>>
>> On November 20, 2018 at 3:06 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hurray !
>>
>> It took about a dozen hours for the created repo to show option "...or
>> push
>> existing repo from command line" on my end although it finally did.
>>
>> So the PostgreSQL repo is now on Apache Infrastructure
>> <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and work can continue
>> on
>> there.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> The INFRA team has created the repo
>> <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and I can't push to it
>> because I don't have the right karma to do so.
>>
>> Can anyone on the PMC get the code
>> <https://github.com/Izakey/fineract-cn-postgresql> I've worked on and
>> push it to the newly created repository ?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Isaac Kamga.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:06 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> Thanks for your response Myrle.
>>
>> I tried creating a repo using these instructions
>> <
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Working+with+gitbox+to+contribute+to+Apache+Fineract+CN>
>> and
>> hit an error, so I created an INFRA ticket
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17273> to address it.
>>
>> In the meantime, if anyone is able to successfully create the ticket
>> using the details in the aforementioned ticket's description, it will be a
>> step in the right direction.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Isaac Kamga.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:59 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Isaac,
>>
>> Awesome Isaac. In general it's better to put stuff into Apache Infra
>> earlier rather than later. Things don't have to be finished. You're a
>> committer, so you have all the karma you need to create that repo. If no
>> one else objects, then do it.
>>
>> : o),
>> Myrle
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> With Best Regards
>>
>> Sendoro Juma
>>
>> -------------------------------
>>
>> SingoAfrica Limited
>> Mbezi Beach | Bagamoyo Road | 7 Nakawale Str.
>>
>> P.O BOX 78908 | 14121 Dar es Salaam
>>
>> info@singo.africa | +255 71 262 8896 | singo.africa | amala.co.tz
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Posted by Markus Geiss <ma...@apache.org>.
Hey Isaac,
the maridb core component is using Hibernate as the JPA provider, that's it.
Given Hibernate ORM is not compliant this needs to be adjusted.
Cheers
Markus
On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 01:55 Isaac Kamga <isaac.kamga@mifos.org wrote:
> Happy weekend fineracters,
>
> It appears the hibernate-validator is Apache licensed as this link[1]
> shows ? Their license probably changed sometime this year.
> Is there any other hibernate tool which we used to develop Fineract CN ?
>
> Cheers,
> Isaac Kamga.
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-validator/blob/master/license.txt
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 1:43 PM Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa> wrote:
>
>> Indeed Hurray to you!!!
>>
>>
>> With Best Regards
>>
>> Sendoro
>>
>> On November 20, 2018 at 3:06 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hurray !
>>
>> It took about a dozen hours for the created repo to show option "...or
>> push
>> existing repo from command line" on my end although it finally did.
>>
>> So the PostgreSQL repo is now on Apache Infrastructure
>> <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and work can continue
>> on
>> there.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> The INFRA team has created the repo
>> <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and I can't push to it
>> because I don't have the right karma to do so.
>>
>> Can anyone on the PMC get the code
>> <https://github.com/Izakey/fineract-cn-postgresql> I've worked on and
>> push it to the newly created repository ?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Isaac Kamga.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:06 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> Thanks for your response Myrle.
>>
>> I tried creating a repo using these instructions
>> <
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Working+with+gitbox+to+contribute+to+Apache+Fineract+CN>
>> and
>> hit an error, so I created an INFRA ticket
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17273> to address it.
>>
>> In the meantime, if anyone is able to successfully create the ticket
>> using the details in the aforementioned ticket's description, it will be a
>> step in the right direction.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Isaac Kamga.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:59 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Isaac,
>>
>> Awesome Isaac. In general it's better to put stuff into Apache Infra
>> earlier rather than later. Things don't have to be finished. You're a
>> committer, so you have all the karma you need to create that repo. If no
>> one else objects, then do it.
>>
>> : o),
>> Myrle
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> With Best Regards
>>
>> Sendoro Juma
>>
>> -------------------------------
>>
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>> Mbezi Beach | Bagamoyo Road | 7 Nakawale Str.
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Posted by Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>.
Happy weekend fineracters,
It appears the hibernate-validator is Apache licensed as this link[1] shows
? Their license probably changed sometime this year.
Is there any other hibernate tool which we used to develop Fineract CN ?
Cheers,
Isaac Kamga.
[1] https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-validator/blob/master/license.txt
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 1:43 PM Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa> wrote:
> Indeed Hurray to you!!!
>
>
> With Best Regards
>
> Sendoro
>
> On November 20, 2018 at 3:06 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org> wrote:
>
> Hurray !
>
> It took about a dozen hours for the created repo to show option "...or push
> existing repo from command line" on my end although it finally did.
>
> So the PostgreSQL repo is now on Apache Infrastructure
> <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and work can continue
> on
> there.
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> The INFRA team has created the repo
> <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and I can't push to it
> because I don't have the right karma to do so.
>
> Can anyone on the PMC get the code
> <https://github.com/Izakey/fineract-cn-postgresql> I've worked on and
> push it to the newly created repository ?
>
> Cheers,
> Isaac Kamga.
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:06 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> Thanks for your response Myrle.
>
> I tried creating a repo using these instructions
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Working+with+gitbox+to+contribute+to+Apache+Fineract+CN>
> and
> hit an error, so I created an INFRA ticket
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17273> to address it.
>
> In the meantime, if anyone is able to successfully create the ticket
> using the details in the aforementioned ticket's description, it will be a
> step in the right direction.
>
> Cheers,
> Isaac Kamga.
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:59 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hey Isaac,
>
> Awesome Isaac. In general it's better to put stuff into Apache Infra
> earlier rather than later. Things don't have to be finished. You're a
> committer, so you have all the karma you need to create that repo. If no
> one else objects, then do it.
>
> : o),
> Myrle
>
>
>
>
> With Best Regards
>
> Sendoro Juma
>
> -------------------------------
>
> SingoAfrica Limited
> Mbezi Beach | Bagamoyo Road | 7 Nakawale Str.
>
> P.O BOX 78908 | 14121 Dar es Salaam
>
> info@singo.africa | +255 71 262 8896 | singo.africa | amala.co.tz
>
>
>
Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Posted by Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa>.
Indeed Hurray to you!!!
With Best Regards
Sendoro
>
> On November 20, 2018 at 3:06 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org> wrote:
>
> Hurray !
>
> It took about a dozen hours for the created repo to show option "...or push
> existing repo from command line" on my end although it finally did.
>
> So the PostgreSQL repo is now on Apache Infrastructure
> <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and work can continue on
> there.
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org> wrote:
>
> > >
> > Hello there,
> >
> > The INFRA team has created the repo
> > <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and I can't push to it
> > because I don't have the right karma to do so.
> >
> > Can anyone on the PMC get the code
> > <https://github.com/Izakey/fineract-cn-postgresql> I've worked on and
> > push it to the newly created repository ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Isaac Kamga.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:06 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > >
> > > Hello there,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your response Myrle.
> > >
> > > I tried creating a repo using these instructions
> > > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Working+with+gitbox+to+contribute+to+Apache+Fineract+CN> and
> > > hit an error, so I created an INFRA ticket
> > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17273> to address it.
> > >
> > > In the meantime, if anyone is able to successfully create the ticket
> > > using the details in the aforementioned ticket's description, it will be a
> > > step in the right direction.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Isaac Kamga.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:59 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > Hey Isaac,
> > > >
> > > > Awesome Isaac. In general it's better to put stuff into Apache Infra
> > > > earlier rather than later. Things don't have to be finished. You're a
> > > > committer, so you have all the karma you need to create that repo. If no
> > > > one else objects, then do it.
> > > >
> > > > : o),
> > > > Myrle
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
With Best Regards
Sendoro Juma
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Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Posted by Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>.
Hurray !
It took about a dozen hours for the created repo to show option "...or push
existing repo from command line" on my end although it finally did.
So the PostgreSQL repo is now on Apache Infrastructure
<https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and work can continue on
there.
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org> wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> The INFRA team has created the repo
> <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and I can't push to it
> because I don't have the right karma to do so.
>
> Can anyone on the PMC get the code
> <https://github.com/Izakey/fineract-cn-postgresql> I've worked on and
> push it to the newly created repository ?
>
> Cheers,
> Isaac Kamga.
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:06 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> Thanks for your response Myrle.
>>
>> I tried creating a repo using these instructions
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Working+with+gitbox+to+contribute+to+Apache+Fineract+CN> and
>> hit an error, so I created an INFRA ticket
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17273> to address it.
>>
>> In the meantime, if anyone is able to successfully create the ticket
>> using the details in the aforementioned ticket's description, it will be a
>> step in the right direction.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Isaac Kamga.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:59 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Isaac,
>>>
>>> Awesome Isaac. In general it's better to put stuff into Apache Infra
>>> earlier rather than later. Things don't have to be finished. You're a
>>> committer, so you have all the karma you need to create that repo. If no
>>> one else objects, then do it.
>>>
>>> : o),
>>> Myrle
>>>
>>
Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Posted by Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>.
Hello there,
The INFRA team has created the repo
<https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-postgresql> and I can't push to it
because I don't have the right karma to do so.
Can anyone on the PMC get the code
<https://github.com/Izakey/fineract-cn-postgresql> I've worked on and push
it to the newly created repository ?
Cheers,
Isaac Kamga.
On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:06 PM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org> wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> Thanks for your response Myrle.
>
> I tried creating a repo using these instructions
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Working+with+gitbox+to+contribute+to+Apache+Fineract+CN> and
> hit an error, so I created an INFRA ticket
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17273> to address it.
>
> In the meantime, if anyone is able to successfully create the ticket using
> the details in the aforementioned ticket's description, it will be a
> step in the right direction.
>
> Cheers,
> Isaac Kamga.
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:59 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hey Isaac,
>>
>> Awesome Isaac. In general it's better to put stuff into Apache Infra
>> earlier rather than later. Things don't have to be finished. You're a
>> committer, so you have all the karma you need to create that repo. If no
>> one else objects, then do it.
>>
>> : o),
>> Myrle
>>
>
Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Posted by Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>.
Hello there,
Thanks for your response Myrle.
I tried creating a repo using these instructions
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Working+with+gitbox+to+contribute+to+Apache+Fineract+CN>
and
hit an error, so I created an INFRA ticket
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17273> to address it.
In the meantime, if anyone is able to successfully create the ticket using
the details in the aforementioned ticket's description, it will be a
step in the right direction.
Cheers,
Isaac Kamga.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:59 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey Isaac,
>
> Awesome Isaac. In general it's better to put stuff into Apache Infra
> earlier rather than later. Things don't have to be finished. You're a
> committer, so you have all the karma you need to create that repo. If no
> one else objects, then do it.
>
> : o),
> Myrle
>
Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Posted by Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>.
Hey Isaac,
Awesome Isaac. In general it's better to put stuff into Apache Infra
earlier rather than later. Things don't have to be finished. You're a
committer, so you have all the karma you need to create that repo. If no
one else objects, then do it.
: o),
Myrle
Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Posted by Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org>.
Thanks for the support Myrle, Sendoro and Awasum.
I just created a corresponding issue
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-103> and have pushed the work
done on the PostgreSQL core component to this repository
<https://github.com/Izakey/fineract-cn-postgresql>.
PostgreSQL came along with it's PgJDBC driver, its default port number
being *5432*, default database instance being *postgres* and default host
being *localhost*. The HibernateJpaVendorAdapter was replaced with
OpenJpaVendorAdapter and the Hibernate dialect for MySQL was replaced with
the OpenJPA dictionary for PostgreSQL. I'm still unclear about whether
users need to employ a specific password as was done with MySQL given that
best practice says it shouldn't be so. For now, developers would have to
ensure they're logged into their *postgres* account for connection to
databases to work.
These are just the basics and I'm uncear about the specific workings of
BoneCP with PostgreSQL. Maybe the constants used have to be modified.
@Markus, @Myrle, @Awasum, Please I await your feedback on what needs to be
improved upon here.
@Myrle, if you think it's time to transfer this repository
<https://github.com/Izakey/fineract-cn-postgresql> to Apache infra,
please let me know.
At Your Service,
Isaac Kamga.
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 11:14 PM Awasum Yannick <aw...@apache.org> wrote:
> Brilliant Idea, Isaac.
>
> Maybe it will be a good idea to create an issue on JIRA for this.
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 8:58 AM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I'm following up on this thread because we still haven't made progress
> with
> > eliminating Category X dependencies in Fineract CN which Yannick evoked
> > half a year ago.
> >
> > @Myrle and @Awasum, I've read through this thread and I second Sendoro's
> > suggestion that we completely move Fineract CN's dependence on MariaDB to
> > PosgreSQL instead. Besides MariaDB's license
> > <https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/licensing-faq/> being an inadmissible
> > Category X dependency, PostgreSQL is Apache-compliant and is a good
> > alternative for MariaDB.
> >
> > I think this will entail writing an equivalent library to
> > fineract-cn-mariadb <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-mariadb>
> which
> > we can name *fineract-cn-postgresql*. It may use the OpenJPA ORM which
> > replaces Hibernate and use PostgreSQL's PgJDBC driver. I've started
> > dabbling with this and will share the link to the code base tomorrow.
> >
> > I want to work on this task and share my thoughts, challenges and
> progress
> > here with you too.
> >
> > What do you think about it ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Isaac Kamga.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:13 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I think that's an excellent suggestion Sendoro. Would you like to
> > > take the lead on that? I'd be happy to provide you with any help you
> > > need to make it happen!
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Myrle
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Dear Myrle,
> > > >
> > > > It may be irrelevant, but let me shoot anyway...!!!... please don't
> > > through stones onto me.
> > > >
> > > > PostgreSQL is believe to have very/most liberal license... as matter
> of
> > > facts... it will avoid now and any future license conflict.
> > > >
> > > > The question is then, why don't we select PostgreSQL as our default
> > DBMS?
> > > >
> > > > - is it related with our skill set? or
> > > > - it is more just related to smooth transfer from MySQL to MariaDB?
> > > >
> > > > Taking into Finaract CN project take a revolution approach from its
> > > predecessor Finaract; why also not take same approach on database?
> > > > - after-all Fineract CN Architecture is decoupled from reliance on
> > > particular database system...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Refer
> > > > https://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/
> > > > https://www.postgresql.org/list/
> > > > https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Sendoro
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Myrle Krantz" <my...@apache.org>
> > > > To: "dev" <de...@fineract.apache.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 9:44:13 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN:
> > Hibernate
> > > to OpenJPA Migration.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you Sendoro,
> > > >
> > > > It's much appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > FYI: I've captured the MariaDB work items in 2 new tickets:
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-26
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-27
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Myrle
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> Hello Myrle,
> > > >>
> > > >> I got you.
> > > >>
> > > >> Let me know if there is any other component need to be checked!
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers
> > > >> Sendoro
> > >
> >
>
Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN: Hibernate to
OpenJPA Migration.
Posted by Awasum Yannick <aw...@apache.org>.
Brilliant Idea, Isaac.
Maybe it will be a good idea to create an issue on JIRA for this.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 8:58 AM Isaac Kamga <is...@mifos.org> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm following up on this thread because we still haven't made progress with
> eliminating Category X dependencies in Fineract CN which Yannick evoked
> half a year ago.
>
> @Myrle and @Awasum, I've read through this thread and I second Sendoro's
> suggestion that we completely move Fineract CN's dependence on MariaDB to
> PosgreSQL instead. Besides MariaDB's license
> <https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/licensing-faq/> being an inadmissible
> Category X dependency, PostgreSQL is Apache-compliant and is a good
> alternative for MariaDB.
>
> I think this will entail writing an equivalent library to
> fineract-cn-mariadb <https://github.com/apache/fineract-cn-mariadb> which
> we can name *fineract-cn-postgresql*. It may use the OpenJPA ORM which
> replaces Hibernate and use PostgreSQL's PgJDBC driver. I've started
> dabbling with this and will share the link to the code base tomorrow.
>
> I want to work on this task and share my thoughts, challenges and progress
> here with you too.
>
> What do you think about it ?
>
> Cheers,
> Isaac Kamga.
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:13 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I think that's an excellent suggestion Sendoro. Would you like to
> > take the lead on that? I'd be happy to provide you with any help you
> > need to make it happen!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa>
> > wrote:
> > > Dear Myrle,
> > >
> > > It may be irrelevant, but let me shoot anyway...!!!... please don't
> > through stones onto me.
> > >
> > > PostgreSQL is believe to have very/most liberal license... as matter of
> > facts... it will avoid now and any future license conflict.
> > >
> > > The question is then, why don't we select PostgreSQL as our default
> DBMS?
> > >
> > > - is it related with our skill set? or
> > > - it is more just related to smooth transfer from MySQL to MariaDB?
> > >
> > > Taking into Finaract CN project take a revolution approach from its
> > predecessor Finaract; why also not take same approach on database?
> > > - after-all Fineract CN Architecture is decoupled from reliance on
> > particular database system...
> > >
> > >
> > > Refer
> > > https://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/
> > > https://www.postgresql.org/list/
> > > https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Sendoro
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Myrle Krantz" <my...@apache.org>
> > > To: "dev" <de...@fineract.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 9:44:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Moving Towards Apache Compliance for Fineract CN:
> Hibernate
> > to OpenJPA Migration.
> > >
> > > Thank you Sendoro,
> > >
> > > It's much appreciated.
> > >
> > > FYI: I've captured the MariaDB work items in 2 new tickets:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-26
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-27
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Myrle
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Sendoro Juma <se...@singo.africa>
> > wrote:
> > >> Hello Myrle,
> > >>
> > >> I got you.
> > >>
> > >> Let me know if there is any other component need to be checked!
> > >>
> > >> Cheers
> > >> Sendoro
> >
>