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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by "R. Scholz" <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de> on 2019/10/24 17:44:48 UTC
Re: sharing programs/desktop
Hello Maxim,
JIRA told me that you had a look to my problem with the "sharing-button".
It looks good, when I press the button it stay correctly.
Good work!
Best regards,
René
> Am 11.09.2019 um 11:30 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>> Hello Rene,
>>
>> build 2930 doesn't have this this (you can check it here
>> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/2930/)
>> you need build 2931+ ....
>> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/2931
>>
>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 14:56, René Scholz
>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hm, I had download:
>> wget
>> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/2930/artifact/openmeetings-server/target/apache-openmeetings-5.0.0-M3-SNAPSHOT.tar.gz
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 11.09.2019 um 09:45 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>> Works for me on demo-next
>>> Are you sure you are using correct build?
>>>
>>> btw no need to restart OM after changing config value :)
>>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 14:00, René Scholz
>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>
>>> I insert a new bool with name "auto.open.sharing" and set it
>>> true.
>>> I reboot my OM-Server.
>>>
>>> I share a screen and only the btutton appears at the
>>> viewer-browser - same result as ever.
>>>
>>> Have you any idea?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>> Am 11.09.2019 um 08:08 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>> The parameter will "auto-appear" only in case of new DB (or
>>>> after import/export)
>>>> If you are using existing DB you have to create this
>>>> parameter of type `boolean`
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 12:58, René Scholz
>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>
>>>> I have install the Build 2931 of M3.
>>>> I can't find the Parameter "auto.open.sharing'" in the
>>>> admin/config.
>>>>
>>>> What I forget?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> René
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 10.09.2019 um 11:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>> In Russia we say: "Small kids - small problems ..." :)))
>>>>>
>>>>> Build server checks every hour if there were commits
>>>>> and starts the build
>>>>> Every build has "Changes" section which can be
>>>>> examined (for ex. [1])
>>>>> new build with this new feature will be available in
>>>>> ~1hour
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/2930/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 16:14, Peter Dähn
>>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> btw 14 could also be worst... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 10.09.19 um 11:08 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>>>> > I stiil try to forget it... ;-)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Am 10.09.19 um 10:56 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>> >> Thanks :)
>>>>> >> My elder daughter is almost 14 so I do remember
>>>>> all those sleepless nights
>>>>> >> :)))
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 15:20, Peter Dähn
>>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> and after birth even less time... ;-)
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Congratulations!
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Am 10.09.19 um 09:45 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>> >>>> Hello All,
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> I'm expecting a daughter in upcoming days, so
>>>>> I have even less free time
>>>>> >>>> than usual :)
>>>>> >>>> I'll try to implement this configurable
>>>>> behavior before M3 release
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Thanks for the JIRA :)
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 14:12, René Scholz <
>>>>> >>> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>>
>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> whats do you mean about our suggestions?
>>>>> >>>>> If you want I make an insert in JIRA.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> René
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Am 07.09.2019 um 14:29 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> thank you very much, Ed and Hemant for your
>>>>> sight.
>>>>> >>>>> I think it's a good idea if Maxim can
>>>>> implement this as a feature into
>>>>> >>> the
>>>>> >>>>> admin-configuration.
>>>>> >>>>> @Maxim: What do you mean?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> René
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Am 07.09.2019 um 12:51 schrieb BBS Technik:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hi,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I think, Hermant's thought is a good
>>>>> concept. OM is used in different
>>>>> >>> use
>>>>> >>>>> cases and if om can cover this scenarios, we
>>>>> have more potential users.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Best regards
>>>>> >>>>> Ed
>>>>> >>>>> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 07. September 2019 um
>>>>> 10:24 Uhr
>>>>> >>>>> *Von:* "Coscend@OM"
>>>>> <OM...@Coscend.com>
>>>>> <ma...@Coscend.com>
>>>>> <OM...@Coscend.com>
>>>>> <ma...@Coscend.com>
>>>>> >>>>> *An:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>> >>>>> *Betreff:* RE: sharing programs/desktop
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello Friends,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Here is a thought. Perhaps it can be
>>>>> offered as an option in admin ->
>>>>> >>>>> configuration
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Automatic
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Manual (default)
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Both are useful in different contexts.
>>>>> Automatic is good for users that
>>>>> >>>>> use it only for screen sharing such as
>>>>> troubleshooting / IT training.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Manual (default) is for audience that use
>>>>> other features in addition to
>>>>> >>>>> screen sharing. Screen sharing will consume
>>>>> bandwidth and will slow
>>>>> >>> down
>>>>> >>>>> the other features.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> www.Coscend.com <http://www.Coscend.com>
>>>>> <http://www.coscend.com/>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> *Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration,
>>>>> Tele-healthcare,
>>>>> >>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on
>>>>> the fly…*
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality
>>>>> Notice Regarding E-mail
>>>>> >>>>> Messages from Coscend Communications
>>>>> Solutions' posted at:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> http://www.Coscend.com/Anchor/Common/Terms_and_Conditions.html
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.coscend.com/Anchor/Common/Terms_and_Conditions.html>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> *From:* Maxim Solodovnik
>>>>> [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>]
>>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 7, 2019 3:18 AM
>>>>> >>>>> *To:* Openmeetings user-list
>>>>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>
>>>>> >>>>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>
>>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: sharing programs/desktop
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> We can change current behaviour if there
>>>>> will be no objections ....
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019, 14:48 R. Scholz
>>>>> <rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I can't believe that nobody is interesting
>>>>> in that feature.
>>>>> >>>>> For me its important .
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hm, but on the other side I have to accept
>>>>> it, if nobody write
>>>>> >>> something.
>>>>> >>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> René
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Am 06.09.2019 um 07:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> It is definitely possible
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I just would like to get input from other
>>>>> users: would it be OK to make
>>>>> >>>>> this change?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 12:44, René Scholz <
>>>>> >>>>> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I will be very happy if you are able to
>>>>> raise my hope: Is it possible to
>>>>> >>>>> bring the shared program on screen without
>>>>> mouse-click?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> With best regards,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> René
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Am 04.09.2019 um 07:21 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> with the "black screen" we supposed that.
>>>>> But, I say that, in sharing
>>>>> >>> the
>>>>> >>>>> whole screen is OK.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> With the "sharing-icon" its a bigger problem
>>>>> (for me). The most users of
>>>>> >>>>> present are so sensitized that they not click.
>>>>> >>>>> In the past I spent a lot of time to explain
>>>>> when I want a remote-access
>>>>> >>>>> with TeamViewer. The remote-access is not the
>>>>> >>>>> problem, they need help, its the question
>>>>> (under windows) at the start
>>>>> >>>>> from TeamViewer ("UAC") to allow the access.
>>>>> >>>>> This global UAV-warnings are so miserable.
>>>>> Some of users refuse to
>>>>> >>> click
>>>>> >>>>> on "Yes".
>>>>> >>>>> (OK, it is clear that TeamViewer want
>>>>> Admin-rights.)
>>>>> >>>>> I hear from a lot of people that the
>>>>> IT-Department of their
>>>>> >>> organisations
>>>>> >>>>> give directives to not-click in a browser on
>>>>> anything
>>>>> >>>>> which is not well known.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> When it is possible it will be very nice to
>>>>> open the sharing-screen
>>>>> >>>>> automatically when the moderator give it
>>>>> free. In my opinion
>>>>> >>>>> the moderator featured his presentation
>>>>> himself, and the user looking
>>>>> >>>>> without interaction.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Whats the meaning of the other?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> René
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Am 04.09.2019 um 05:30 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I'll try to answer point by point :)
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> *"older Delphi-program its not possible, the
>>>>> client only receive a black
>>>>> >>>>> screen"* - actually browser performs
>>>>> screen-sharing
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> So i guess there are some limitation on
>>>>> Windows (most probably something
>>>>> >>>>> with graphics/overlay)
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> *"when I transfer the screen in the
>>>>> client-browser only the sharing-icon
>>>>> >>>>> appears"* - right now this icon blinks to
>>>>> attract user's attention
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Screen-sharing window is usually huge this
>>>>> is why user can close it any
>>>>> >>>>> time and re-open by clicking same icon
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Maybe sort of "text info popup" can help?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 20:54, René Scholz <
>>>>> >>>>> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>> <ma...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I try to share a program.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> With an older Delphi-program its not
>>>>> possible, the client only receive a
>>>>> >>>>> black screen. We have this one year ago and
>>>>> >>>>> you said that came from Kurento. But thats
>>>>> no problem, when I select the
>>>>> >>>>> whole screen it works. Its not the best
>>>>> solution, but it works.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> One thing that bother is when I transfer the
>>>>> screen in the
>>>>> >>>>> client-browser only the sharing-icon appears.
>>>>> >>>>> I (moderator) have to communicate that the
>>>>> person who view the
>>>>> >>>>> presentation have to click on it and allow
>>>>> the question.
>>>>> >>>>> In germany no user click on an question to
>>>>> allow anything - I have a big
>>>>> >>>>> problem with it.
>>>>> >>>>> Many persons not find the icon (right top
>>>>> corner is difficult to find)
>>>>> >>>>> or they dont allow and switch off.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Please, can you find a solution that the
>>>>> sharing-window appears without
>>>>> >>>>> click on the icon? I mean, the moderator
>>>>> show what he want.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> René
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> WBR
>>>>> >>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> WBR
>>>>> >>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> <
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>
>>>>> >>> Virus-free.
>>>>> >>>>> www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
>>>>> >>>>> <
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: sharing programs/desktop
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Great,
thanks for verification!
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 00:45, R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
wrote:
> Hello Maxim,
>
> JIRA told me that you had a look to my problem with the "sharing-button".
>
> It looks good, when I press the button it stay correctly.
> Good work!
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
>
> Am 11.09.2019 um 11:30 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Rene,
>
> build 2930 doesn't have this this (you can check it here
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/2930/
> )
> you need build 2931+ ....
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/2931
>
> On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 14:56, René Scholz <
> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>
>> Hm, I had download:
>> wget
>> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/2930/artifact/openmeetings-server/target/apache-openmeetings-5.0.0-M3-SNAPSHOT.tar.gz
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 11.09.2019 um 09:45 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Works for me on demo-next
>> Are you sure you are using correct build?
>>
>> btw no need to restart OM after changing config value :)
>>
>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 14:00, René Scholz <
>> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>
>>> I insert a new bool with name "auto.open.sharing" and set it true.
>>> I reboot my OM-Server.
>>>
>>> I share a screen and only the btutton appears at the viewer-browser -
>>> same result as ever.
>>>
>>> Have you any idea?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>> Am 11.09.2019 um 08:08 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> The parameter will "auto-appear" only in case of new DB (or after
>>> import/export)
>>> If you are using existing DB you have to create this parameter of type
>>> `boolean`
>>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 12:58, René Scholz <
>>> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>
>>>> I have install the Build 2931 of M3.
>>>> I can't find the Parameter "auto.open.sharing'" in the admin/config.
>>>>
>>>> What I forget?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> René
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 10.09.2019 um 11:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>> In Russia we say: "Small kids - small problems ..." :)))
>>>>
>>>> Build server checks every hour if there were commits and starts the
>>>> build
>>>> Every build has "Changes" section which can be examined (for ex. [1])
>>>> new build with this new feature will be available in ~1hour
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/2930/
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 16:14, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> btw 14 could also be worst... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 10.09.19 um 11:08 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>>>> > I stiil try to forget it... ;-)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Am 10.09.19 um 10:56 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>> >> Thanks :)
>>>>> >> My elder daughter is almost 14 so I do remember all those sleepless
>>>>> nights
>>>>> >> :)))
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 15:20, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> and after birth even less time... ;-)
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Congratulations!
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Am 10.09.19 um 09:45 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>> >>>> Hello All,
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> I'm expecting a daughter in upcoming days, so I have even less
>>>>> free time
>>>>> >>>> than usual :)
>>>>> >>>> I'll try to implement this configurable behavior before M3 release
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Thanks for the JIRA :)
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 14:12, René Scholz <
>>>>> >>> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de>
>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> whats do you mean about our suggestions?
>>>>> >>>>> If you want I make an insert in JIRA.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> René
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Am 07.09.2019 um 14:29 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> thank you very much, Ed and Hemant for your sight.
>>>>> >>>>> I think it's a good idea if Maxim can implement this as a
>>>>> feature into
>>>>> >>> the
>>>>> >>>>> admin-configuration.
>>>>> >>>>> @Maxim: What do you mean?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> René
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Am 07.09.2019 um 12:51 schrieb BBS Technik:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hi,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I think, Hermant's thought is a good concept. OM is used in
>>>>> different
>>>>> >>> use
>>>>> >>>>> cases and if om can cover this scenarios, we have more potential
>>>>> users.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Best regards
>>>>> >>>>> Ed
>>>>> >>>>> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 07. September 2019 um 10:24 Uhr
>>>>> >>>>> *Von:* "Coscend@OM" <OM...@Coscend.com>
>>>>> <OM...@Coscend.com> <OM...@Coscend.com>
>>>>> <OM...@Coscend.com>
>>>>> >>>>> *An:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>> >>>>> *Betreff:* RE: sharing programs/desktop
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello Friends,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Here is a thought. Perhaps it can be offered as an option in
>>>>> admin ->
>>>>> >>>>> configuration
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Automatic
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Manual (default)
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Both are useful in different contexts. Automatic is good for
>>>>> users that
>>>>> >>>>> use it only for screen sharing such as troubleshooting / IT
>>>>> training.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Manual (default) is for audience that use other features in
>>>>> addition to
>>>>> >>>>> screen sharing. Screen sharing will consume bandwidth and will
>>>>> slow
>>>>> >>> down
>>>>> >>>>> the other features.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> www.Coscend.com <http://www.coscend.com/>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> *Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>>>>> >>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…*
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding
>>>>> E-mail
>>>>> >>>>> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
>>>>> >>>>> http://www.Coscend.com/Anchor/Common/Terms_and_Conditions.html
>>>>> >>>>> <http://www.coscend.com/Anchor/Common/Terms_and_Conditions.html>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> *From:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>> >>>>> <so...@gmail.com>]
>>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 7, 2019 3:18 AM
>>>>> >>>>> *To:* Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>> >>>>> <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: sharing programs/desktop
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> We can change current behaviour if there will be no objections
>>>>> ....
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019, 14:48 R. Scholz <
>>>>> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de
>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I can't believe that nobody is interesting in that feature.
>>>>> >>>>> For me its important .
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hm, but on the other side I have to accept it, if nobody write
>>>>> >>> something.
>>>>> >>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> René
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Am 06.09.2019 um 07:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> It is definitely possible
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I just would like to get input from other users: would it be OK
>>>>> to make
>>>>> >>>>> this change?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 12:44, René Scholz <
>>>>> >>>>> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I will be very happy if you are able to raise my hope: Is it
>>>>> possible to
>>>>> >>>>> bring the shared program on screen without mouse-click?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> With best regards,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> René
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Am 04.09.2019 um 07:21 schrieb R. Scholz:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> with the "black screen" we supposed that. But, I say that, in
>>>>> sharing
>>>>> >>> the
>>>>> >>>>> whole screen is OK.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> With the "sharing-icon" its a bigger problem (for me). The most
>>>>> users of
>>>>> >>>>> present are so sensitized that they not click.
>>>>> >>>>> In the past I spent a lot of time to explain when I want a
>>>>> remote-access
>>>>> >>>>> with TeamViewer. The remote-access is not the
>>>>> >>>>> problem, they need help, its the question (under windows) at the
>>>>> start
>>>>> >>>>> from TeamViewer ("UAC") to allow the access.
>>>>> >>>>> This global UAV-warnings are so miserable. Some of users refuse
>>>>> to
>>>>> >>> click
>>>>> >>>>> on "Yes".
>>>>> >>>>> (OK, it is clear that TeamViewer want Admin-rights.)
>>>>> >>>>> I hear from a lot of people that the IT-Department of their
>>>>> >>> organisations
>>>>> >>>>> give directives to not-click in a browser on anything
>>>>> >>>>> which is not well known.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> When it is possible it will be very nice to open the
>>>>> sharing-screen
>>>>> >>>>> automatically when the moderator give it free. In my opinion
>>>>> >>>>> the moderator featured his presentation himself, and the user
>>>>> looking
>>>>> >>>>> without interaction.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Whats the meaning of the other?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> René
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Am 04.09.2019 um 05:30 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello Rene,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I'll try to answer point by point :)
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> *"older Delphi-program its not possible, the client only receive
>>>>> a black
>>>>> >>>>> screen"* - actually browser performs screen-sharing
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> So i guess there are some limitation on Windows (most probably
>>>>> something
>>>>> >>>>> with graphics/overlay)
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> *"when I transfer the screen in the client-browser only the
>>>>> sharing-icon
>>>>> >>>>> appears"* - right now this icon blinks to attract user's
>>>>> attention
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Screen-sharing window is usually huge this is why user can close
>>>>> it any
>>>>> >>>>> time and re-open by clicking same icon
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Maybe sort of "text info popup" can help?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 20:54, René Scholz <
>>>>> >>>>> rene.scholz@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I try to share a program.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> With an older Delphi-program its not possible, the client only
>>>>> receive a
>>>>> >>>>> black screen. We have this one year ago and
>>>>> >>>>> you said that came from Kurento. But thats no problem, when I
>>>>> select the
>>>>> >>>>> whole screen it works. Its not the best solution, but it works.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> One thing that bother is when I transfer the screen in the
>>>>> >>>>> client-browser only the sharing-icon appears.
>>>>> >>>>> I (moderator) have to communicate that the person who view the
>>>>> >>>>> presentation have to click on it and allow the question.
>>>>> >>>>> In germany no user click on an question to allow anything - I
>>>>> have a big
>>>>> >>>>> problem with it.
>>>>> >>>>> Many persons not find the icon (right top corner is difficult to
>>>>> find)
>>>>> >>>>> or they dont allow and switch off.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Please, can you find a solution that the sharing-window appears
>>>>> without
>>>>> >>>>> click on the icon? I mean, the moderator show what he want.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> René
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> WBR
>>>>> >>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>> >>>>>
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>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
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>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> --
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>>>>> >>>>> WBR
>>>>> >>>>> Maxim aka solomax
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