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Posted to jetspeed-user@portals.apache.org by Christoph Steinbeck <st...@ice.mpg.de> on 2001/12/13 15:12:53 UTC
Performance of latest release of Jetspeed-1.3a2
Hi everybody,
I must say that this latest release of Jetspeed-1.3a2 is a great
achievement. I was able to run and configure it (including email
confirmation, etc.) within a few minutes.
Now, since we are planning to use this for a scientific database
front-end, I was wondering whether the relatively slow response times
that I get here, are
- due to a problem on my side, or
- a known problem, or
- a feature, not a bug :-)
and whether one can do anything about it.
I understand that if you have all these news feed portlets switched on,
the response can be slowed down due to non reachable sites somewhere
else.
Indeed, when I switched off all these feed-portlets, I could reduce the
time for a page to appear from several minutes to less then ten seconds.
But of course, that's still too slow. Are there some caching features,
that need to switched on, or anything else I can do about it?
Cheers,
Chris
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Jena, Germany
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Re: Performance of latest release of Jetspeed-1.3a2
Posted by Christoph Steinbeck <st...@ice.mpg.de>.
Paul Spencer wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> Jetspeed uses files in the <jetspeed-home>/WEB-INF/templates/...
> directory to generate a page. So you should be able to convert from
> nested frames to frames/iframes by editing those files. I have seen
> some traffic on this list about using frames/iframes, but no one has
> contributed files that support frames/iframes.
>
> By the way, some sites use nested frames go encourage customer to use IE :(
I certainly never will.
But if the missing roaming access is no issue, the problems in 4.7x
might finally convince every user to switch to either Mozilla or the
gecko-based NS 6.x.
Cheers,
Chris
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Re: .vm and psml
Posted by Frans Thamura <ft...@yahoo.com>.
I think you want to implement the .vm that will read several psml right??
I think in the mail-archive you can find how to implement role and
group...just it..
but, there is several bug, if you implement more than 1 pane in group or
role pane.
so, my tips is still make a convetional development, you must implement the
session user, so you can implement single sign-on (email if you success this
step also, i still stack...)
For this phase, Jetspeed is ideal only for main page development, and the
rest you must create it like develop portal..
But, if you can create a code that can read the psmls and put in you web
site, please post to this mail, esp from me, i am very thanks full...
Frans
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From: "Paul Spencer" <pa...@apache.org>
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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: .vm and psml
> Lionel,
> In a general sense, their is no relationship between PSML files and
> default.vm. If your intent is to display a page that is defined by a
> specific PSML file, then see
>
http://www.mail-archive.com/jetspeed-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg00751.html
>
> Paul Spencer
>
> lionelfarr@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Im creating an Intralink portal for my company. My
> > question is how do I get my default.vm to point to
> > different psml files depending on the link that they
> > clicked.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Lionel
> >
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Re: .vm and psml
Posted by Paul Spencer <pa...@apache.org>.
Lionel,
In a general sense, their is no relationship between PSML files and
default.vm. If your intent is to display a page that is defined by a
specific PSML file, then see
http://www.mail-archive.com/jetspeed-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg00751.html
Paul Spencer
lionelfarr@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Im creating an Intralink portal for my company. My
> question is how do I get my default.vm to point to
> different psml files depending on the link that they
> clicked.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lionel
>
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.vm and psml
Posted by li...@yahoo.com.
Hello,
Im creating an Intralink portal for my company. My
question is how do I get my default.vm to point to
different psml files depending on the link that they
clicked.
Thanks.
Lionel
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Re: Performance of latest release of Jetspeed-1.3a2
Posted by Paul Spencer <pa...@apache.org>.
Chris,
Jetspeed uses files in the <jetspeed-home>/WEB-INF/templates/...
directory to generate a page. So you should be able to convert from
nested frames to frames/iframes by editing those files. I have seen
some traffic on this list about using frames/iframes, but no one has
contributed files that support frames/iframes.
By the way, some sites use nested frames go encourage customer to use IE :(
Paul Spencer
Christoph Steinbeck wrote:
> Paul,
>
> thanks for the quick answer. And you solved the mystery. The problem is
> Netscape 4.7x. D**n!
> Internet Explorer and Mozilla show the pages instantaneously.
> The effect is dramatic. 15 sec for showing the entry sceen on Netscape
> 4.78.. The logo and everything above the thin line (login form, etc.)
> was there immediately but the rest of the portlets (jetspeed, apache
> jetspeed, welcome) takes those 15 sec to appear.
>
> I don't want any "This page is worst viewed with NS 4.7x" logos on my
> site. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> --
> Dr. Christoph Steinbeck (http://www.ice.mpg.de/departments/ChemInf)
> MPI of Chemical Ecology, Winzerlaer Str. 10, Beutenberg Campus, 07745
> Jena, Germany
> Tel: +49(0)3641 571263 - Fax: +49(0)3641 571202
>
> What is man but that lofty spirit - that sense of enterprise.
> ... Kirk, "I, Mudd," stardate 4513.3..
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul Spencer wrote:
>
>>Chris,
>>As you pointed out, performance is based in many factors. The retrieval
>>portlet content is one. Another is related to how fast the browser can
>>render the returned page. Netscape 4.7x has a known performance problem
>>with nested tables. Jetspeed uses nested tables :(
>>
>>10 second is a long time to display the Jetspeed home page. I am not
>>seeing this. Most of the time Jetspeed's home page is displayed in <1
>>second. By the way, thank you for quantifying "slow performance" !!
>>
>>Places to look:
>>o Log files! Including Jetspeed's, Tomcat's, and the web server's.
>>o General performance on the server machine(s), i.e. if server is
>> low on memory it will spend a lot of time swapping pages instead
>> of running applications.
>>o Load and configuration on the client machine, i.e. is the client
>> a 100 MHz PII with 16 MB of memory?
>>o Proxies, the lurk on corporate networks and can cause caching and
>> performance problems :(
>>o Firewalls can prevent prevent content retrieval and cause jetspeed
>> to wait for the request to time-out.
>>o General network performance
>>
>>Paul Spencer
>>
>>Christoph Steinbeck wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi everybody,
>>>
>>>I must say that this latest release of Jetspeed-1.3a2 is a great
>>>achievement. I was able to run and configure it (including email
>>>confirmation, etc.) within a few minutes.
>>>Now, since we are planning to use this for a scientific database
>>>front-end, I was wondering whether the relatively slow response times
>>>that I get here, are
>>>
>>>- due to a problem on my side, or
>>>- a known problem, or
>>>- a feature, not a bug :-)
>>>
>>>and whether one can do anything about it.
>>>
>>>I understand that if you have all these news feed portlets switched on,
>>>the response can be slowed down due to non reachable sites somewhere
>>>else.
>>>Indeed, when I switched off all these feed-portlets, I could reduce the
>>>time for a page to appear from several minutes to less then ten seconds.
>>>But of course, that's still too slow. Are there some caching features,
>>>that need to switched on, or anything else I can do about it?
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>--
>>>Dr. Christoph Steinbeck (http://www.ice.mpg.de/departments/ChemInf)
>>>MPI of Chemical Ecology, Winzerlaer Str. 10, Beutenberg Campus, 07745
>>>Jena, Germany
>>>Tel: +49(0)3641 571263 - Fax: +49(0)3641 571202
>>>
>>>What is man but that lofty spirit - that sense of enterprise.
>>>... Kirk, "I, Mudd," stardate 4513.3..
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Re: Performance of latest release of Jetspeed-1.3a2
Posted by Paul Spencer <pa...@apache.org>.
Chris,
Netscape fixed the nested table problem in v6.2, which is the browser I use.
Paul Spencer
Christoph Steinbeck wrote:
> Paul,
>
> thanks for the quick answer. And you solved the mystery. The problem is
> Netscape 4.7x. D**n!
> Internet Explorer and Mozilla show the pages instantaneously.
> The effect is dramatic. 15 sec for showing the entry sceen on Netscape
> 4.78.. The logo and everything above the thin line (login form, etc.)
> was there immediately but the rest of the portlets (jetspeed, apache
> jetspeed, welcome) takes those 15 sec to appear.
>
> I don't want any "This page is worst viewed with NS 4.7x" logos on my
> site. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> --
> Dr. Christoph Steinbeck (http://www.ice.mpg.de/departments/ChemInf)
> MPI of Chemical Ecology, Winzerlaer Str. 10, Beutenberg Campus, 07745
> Jena, Germany
> Tel: +49(0)3641 571263 - Fax: +49(0)3641 571202
>
> What is man but that lofty spirit - that sense of enterprise.
> ... Kirk, "I, Mudd," stardate 4513.3..
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul Spencer wrote:
>
>>Chris,
>>As you pointed out, performance is based in many factors. The retrieval
>>portlet content is one. Another is related to how fast the browser can
>>render the returned page. Netscape 4.7x has a known performance problem
>>with nested tables. Jetspeed uses nested tables :(
>>
>>10 second is a long time to display the Jetspeed home page. I am not
>>seeing this. Most of the time Jetspeed's home page is displayed in <1
>>second. By the way, thank you for quantifying "slow performance" !!
>>
>>Places to look:
>>o Log files! Including Jetspeed's, Tomcat's, and the web server's.
>>o General performance on the server machine(s), i.e. if server is
>> low on memory it will spend a lot of time swapping pages instead
>> of running applications.
>>o Load and configuration on the client machine, i.e. is the client
>> a 100 MHz PII with 16 MB of memory?
>>o Proxies, the lurk on corporate networks and can cause caching and
>> performance problems :(
>>o Firewalls can prevent prevent content retrieval and cause jetspeed
>> to wait for the request to time-out.
>>o General network performance
>>
>>Paul Spencer
>>
>>Christoph Steinbeck wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi everybody,
>>>
>>>I must say that this latest release of Jetspeed-1.3a2 is a great
>>>achievement. I was able to run and configure it (including email
>>>confirmation, etc.) within a few minutes.
>>>Now, since we are planning to use this for a scientific database
>>>front-end, I was wondering whether the relatively slow response times
>>>that I get here, are
>>>
>>>- due to a problem on my side, or
>>>- a known problem, or
>>>- a feature, not a bug :-)
>>>
>>>and whether one can do anything about it.
>>>
>>>I understand that if you have all these news feed portlets switched on,
>>>the response can be slowed down due to non reachable sites somewhere
>>>else.
>>>Indeed, when I switched off all these feed-portlets, I could reduce the
>>>time for a page to appear from several minutes to less then ten seconds.
>>>But of course, that's still too slow. Are there some caching features,
>>>that need to switched on, or anything else I can do about it?
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>--
>>>Dr. Christoph Steinbeck (http://www.ice.mpg.de/departments/ChemInf)
>>>MPI of Chemical Ecology, Winzerlaer Str. 10, Beutenberg Campus, 07745
>>>Jena, Germany
>>>Tel: +49(0)3641 571263 - Fax: +49(0)3641 571202
>>>
>>>What is man but that lofty spirit - that sense of enterprise.
>>>... Kirk, "I, Mudd," stardate 4513.3..
>>>
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Re: Performance of latest release of Jetspeed-1.3a2
Posted by Christoph Steinbeck <st...@ice.mpg.de>.
Paul,
thanks for the quick answer. And you solved the mystery. The problem is
Netscape 4.7x. D**n!
Internet Explorer and Mozilla show the pages instantaneously.
The effect is dramatic. 15 sec for showing the entry sceen on Netscape
4.78.. The logo and everything above the thin line (login form, etc.)
was there immediately but the rest of the portlets (jetspeed, apache
jetspeed, welcome) takes those 15 sec to appear.
I don't want any "This page is worst viewed with NS 4.7x" logos on my
site. :-)
Cheers,
Chris
--
Dr. Christoph Steinbeck (http://www.ice.mpg.de/departments/ChemInf)
MPI of Chemical Ecology, Winzerlaer Str. 10, Beutenberg Campus, 07745
Jena, Germany
Tel: +49(0)3641 571263 - Fax: +49(0)3641 571202
What is man but that lofty spirit - that sense of enterprise.
... Kirk, "I, Mudd," stardate 4513.3..
Paul Spencer wrote:
>
> Chris,
> As you pointed out, performance is based in many factors. The retrieval
> portlet content is one. Another is related to how fast the browser can
> render the returned page. Netscape 4.7x has a known performance problem
> with nested tables. Jetspeed uses nested tables :(
>
> 10 second is a long time to display the Jetspeed home page. I am not
> seeing this. Most of the time Jetspeed's home page is displayed in <1
> second. By the way, thank you for quantifying "slow performance" !!
>
> Places to look:
> o Log files! Including Jetspeed's, Tomcat's, and the web server's.
> o General performance on the server machine(s), i.e. if server is
> low on memory it will spend a lot of time swapping pages instead
> of running applications.
> o Load and configuration on the client machine, i.e. is the client
> a 100 MHz PII with 16 MB of memory?
> o Proxies, the lurk on corporate networks and can cause caching and
> performance problems :(
> o Firewalls can prevent prevent content retrieval and cause jetspeed
> to wait for the request to time-out.
> o General network performance
>
> Paul Spencer
>
> Christoph Steinbeck wrote:
>
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > I must say that this latest release of Jetspeed-1.3a2 is a great
> > achievement. I was able to run and configure it (including email
> > confirmation, etc.) within a few minutes.
> > Now, since we are planning to use this for a scientific database
> > front-end, I was wondering whether the relatively slow response times
> > that I get here, are
> >
> > - due to a problem on my side, or
> > - a known problem, or
> > - a feature, not a bug :-)
> >
> > and whether one can do anything about it.
> >
> > I understand that if you have all these news feed portlets switched on,
> > the response can be slowed down due to non reachable sites somewhere
> > else.
> > Indeed, when I switched off all these feed-portlets, I could reduce the
> > time for a page to appear from several minutes to less then ten seconds.
> > But of course, that's still too slow. Are there some caching features,
> > that need to switched on, or anything else I can do about it?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Christoph Steinbeck (http://www.ice.mpg.de/departments/ChemInf)
> > MPI of Chemical Ecology, Winzerlaer Str. 10, Beutenberg Campus, 07745
> > Jena, Germany
> > Tel: +49(0)3641 571263 - Fax: +49(0)3641 571202
> >
> > What is man but that lofty spirit - that sense of enterprise.
> > ... Kirk, "I, Mudd," stardate 4513.3..
> >
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Re: Performance of latest release of Jetspeed-1.3a2
Posted by Paul Spencer <pa...@apache.org>.
Chris,
As you pointed out, performance is based in many factors. The retrieval
portlet content is one. Another is related to how fast the browser can
render the returned page. Netscape 4.7x has a known performance problem
with nested tables. Jetspeed uses nested tables :(
10 second is a long time to display the Jetspeed home page. I am not
seeing this. Most of the time Jetspeed's home page is displayed in <1
second. By the way, thank you for quantifying "slow performance" !!
Places to look:
o Log files! Including Jetspeed's, Tomcat's, and the web server's.
o General performance on the server machine(s), i.e. if server is
low on memory it will spend a lot of time swapping pages instead
of running applications.
o Load and configuration on the client machine, i.e. is the client
a 100 MHz PII with 16 MB of memory?
o Proxies, the lurk on corporate networks and can cause caching and
performance problems :(
o Firewalls can prevent prevent content retrieval and cause jetspeed
to wait for the request to time-out.
o General network performance
Paul Spencer
Christoph Steinbeck wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I must say that this latest release of Jetspeed-1.3a2 is a great
> achievement. I was able to run and configure it (including email
> confirmation, etc.) within a few minutes.
> Now, since we are planning to use this for a scientific database
> front-end, I was wondering whether the relatively slow response times
> that I get here, are
>
> - due to a problem on my side, or
> - a known problem, or
> - a feature, not a bug :-)
>
> and whether one can do anything about it.
>
> I understand that if you have all these news feed portlets switched on,
> the response can be slowed down due to non reachable sites somewhere
> else.
> Indeed, when I switched off all these feed-portlets, I could reduce the
> time for a page to appear from several minutes to less then ten seconds.
> But of course, that's still too slow. Are there some caching features,
> that need to switched on, or anything else I can do about it?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> --
> Dr. Christoph Steinbeck (http://www.ice.mpg.de/departments/ChemInf)
> MPI of Chemical Ecology, Winzerlaer Str. 10, Beutenberg Campus, 07745
> Jena, Germany
> Tel: +49(0)3641 571263 - Fax: +49(0)3641 571202
>
> What is man but that lofty spirit - that sense of enterprise.
> ... Kirk, "I, Mudd," stardate 4513.3..
>
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