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Omid and Tephra
Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra,
As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are very
low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be
candidates for retirement.
The situation here is somewhat special because Phoenix uses one or both of
these technologies (they are both transaction managers on top of HBase), so
they may have an interest in their continued survival. Tephra briefly
discussed this last June[1], though nothing came of it. My conclusion is
there is not enough momentum left for these podlings to vote themselves
into Phoenix without an external push.
So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the
Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with the
knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok with
this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any action
on this.
Alan.
1.
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/87ace080ef8a967b238781979a8d9a0cb9607ac4a195d5937756ec66@%3Cdev.tephra.apache.org%3E
Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Josh Elser <el...@apache.org>.
I like the idea of opt-in for committership for the current podling
membership (without any "time to respond" limitation). I don't foresee
any concerns doing that, but will shout if that becomes an issue.
On 10/28/19 3:09 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> According to [4] the first step of graduating into a sub-project of an
>> existing TLP is a vote by the podling. Given that both podlings have very
>> low activity I am not sure we will get the necessary votes to make this
>> happen.
>
> I would try and see what happens - the mentors have binding votes so hopefully they will vote. If we don’t get enough votes or if someone raises an objection we’ll decide what to do then.
>
>> One question that I'd like to see resolved as part of this vote
>> is what status Phoenix plans to grant to Tephra and Omid committers and
>> PPMC members.
>
> I would ask all PPMC and committers if they want to be part of Phoenix PMC/committers and grant those who reply. But if the Phoenix PMC has other ideas they could also be considered.
>
> If someone at a later point decides to “opt-in” you may want to consider that as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com>.
Makes sense. I've replied to the discussion in the Phoenix community so we
know what terms Tephra and Omid are voting on. As soon as I hear from them
I'll start votes in both communities.
Alan.
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 3:47 PM Andreas Neumann <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> I agree with Justin, I think we get - at least in the Tephra community - a
> quorum.
> -Andreas
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:09 PM Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > According to [4] the first step of graduating into a sub-project of an
> > > existing TLP is a vote by the podling. Given that both podlings have
> > very
> > > low activity I am not sure we will get the necessary votes to make this
> > > happen.
> >
> > I would try and see what happens - the mentors have binding votes so
> > hopefully they will vote. If we don’t get enough votes or if someone
> raises
> > an objection we’ll decide what to do then.
> >
> > > One question that I'd like to see resolved as part of this vote
> > > is what status Phoenix plans to grant to Tephra and Omid committers and
> > > PPMC members.
> >
> > I would ask all PPMC and committers if they want to be part of Phoenix
> > PMC/committers and grant those who reply. But if the Phoenix PMC has
> other
> > ideas they could also be considered.
> >
> > If someone at a later point decides to “opt-in” you may want to consider
> > that as well.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Andreas Neumann <an...@apache.org>.
I agree with Justin, I think we get - at least in the Tephra community - a
quorum.
-Andreas
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:09 PM Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > According to [4] the first step of graduating into a sub-project of an
> > existing TLP is a vote by the podling. Given that both podlings have
> very
> > low activity I am not sure we will get the necessary votes to make this
> > happen.
>
> I would try and see what happens - the mentors have binding votes so
> hopefully they will vote. If we don’t get enough votes or if someone raises
> an objection we’ll decide what to do then.
>
> > One question that I'd like to see resolved as part of this vote
> > is what status Phoenix plans to grant to Tephra and Omid committers and
> > PPMC members.
>
> I would ask all PPMC and committers if they want to be part of Phoenix
> PMC/committers and grant those who reply. But if the Phoenix PMC has other
> ideas they could also be considered.
>
> If someone at a later point decides to “opt-in” you may want to consider
> that as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> According to [4] the first step of graduating into a sub-project of an
> existing TLP is a vote by the podling. Given that both podlings have very
> low activity I am not sure we will get the necessary votes to make this
> happen.
I would try and see what happens - the mentors have binding votes so hopefully they will vote. If we don’t get enough votes or if someone raises an objection we’ll decide what to do then.
> One question that I'd like to see resolved as part of this vote
> is what status Phoenix plans to grant to Tephra and Omid committers and
> PPMC members.
I would ask all PPMC and committers if they want to be part of Phoenix PMC/committers and grant those who reply. But if the Phoenix PMC has other ideas they could also be considered.
If someone at a later point decides to “opt-in” you may want to consider that as well.
Thanks,
Justin
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com>.
There appears to be consensus on this thread, as well as in the Phoenix
community[1] that it makes sense for Phoenix to adopt both Omid and
Tephra. My mails to the Tephra and Omid communities[2][3] have gone
unanswered, so I assume silence implies consent.
According to [4] the first step of graduating into a sub-project of an
existing TLP is a vote by the podling. Given that both podlings have very
low activity I am not sure we will get the necessary votes to make this
happen. I can start the vote threads in each podling, but I believe we
should be ready to move forward without these votes passing due to lack of
participation.
The next step is for the Phoenix PMC to formally vote to accept the
podlings. One question that I'd like to see resolved as part of this vote
is what status Phoenix plans to grant to Tephra and Omid committers and
PPMC members. Normally I would expect that all podling committers become
TLP committers, but given the low participation it may make sense for
Phoenix to use an opt-in where podling committers need to affirm their
desire to continue on the project before being made committers.
Alan.
1.
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ec00615cbbb4225885e3776f1e8fd071600a9c50f35769f453b8a779@%3Cdev.phoenix.apache.org%3E
2.
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/21deb9e6fe0e929af38b9b712cc0a0779b170f6617b6dee21cfbc356@%3Cdev.tephra.apache.org%3E
3.
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/3fda8fe4517e7d78e4a38b75cce0d77e4514529d50249c190fcb3bda@%3Cdev.omid.apache.org%3E
4.
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_subproject
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 10:35 AM Ohad Shacham
<oh...@verizonmedia.com.invalid> wrote:
> +1, Thanks Alan.
> Just wanted to verify that adopt means Omid and Tephra will sit in the same
> repo as Phoenix but will be able to checkout separately as well. I assume
> this is Phoenix folks decision.
> I know that in Yahoo Omid is used internally.
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 2:36 AM Gary Helmling <gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 this seems like the best option.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:29 PM Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 this would be a good outcome. Both Tephra and OMID are good
> > > technologies, with respective pros and cons, and Phoenix can make good
> > use
> > > of both of them, should they choose to accept ownership of the code.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:26 AM Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra,
> > > >
> > > > As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are
> > very
> > > > low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be
> > > > candidates for retirement.
> > > >
> > > > The situation here is somewhat special because Phoenix uses one or
> both
> > > of
> > > > these technologies (they are both transaction managers on top of
> > HBase),
> > > so
> > > > they may have an interest in their continued survival. Tephra
> briefly
> > > > discussed this last June[1], though nothing came of it. My
> conclusion
> > is
> > > > there is not enough momentum left for these podlings to vote
> themselves
> > > > into Phoenix without an external push.
> > > >
> > > > So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve
> the
> > > > Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these,
> with
> > > the
> > > > knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
> > > > current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok
> with
> > > > this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any
> > > action
> > > > on this.
> > > >
> > > > Alan.
> > > >
> > > > 1.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/87ace080ef8a967b238781979a8d9a0cb9607ac4a195d5937756ec66@%3Cdev.tephra.apache.org%3E
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
> > > decrepit hands
> > > - A23, Crosstalk
> > >
> >
>
Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>.
https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/documents/grants/caskdata-tephra
On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 15:16, Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Regarding SGAs, here's the JIRA for Omid:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OMID-2
> According to
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/foundation/officers/grants.txt Cask
> (original creators of Tephra) submitted a SGA for it and it's one file, but
> I don't know where the referenced file is kept.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 10:32 AM Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Bertand, thanks for bringing this up. I'll chase those down.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:46 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:55 PM Josh Elser <el...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > ...My current expectation is that we'd just rename the existing Git
> >> > repositories and change the LDAP group which are used to determine write
> >> > access...
> >>
> >> From the Incubator's point of view, I think an additional step is to
> >> confirm and document if any Software Grants were needed for these
> >> projects code and if yes if they've been filed as needed.
> >>
> >> This can be just a jira or other ticket documenting the move and
> >> including this info.
> >>
> >> -Bertrand
> >>
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com>.
Regarding SGAs, here's the JIRA for Omid:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OMID-2
According to
https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/foundation/officers/grants.txt Cask
(original creators of Tephra) submitted a SGA for it and it's one file, but
I don't know where the referenced file is kept.
Alan.
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 10:32 AM Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bertand, thanks for bringing this up. I'll chase those down.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:46 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:55 PM Josh Elser <el...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > ...My current expectation is that we'd just rename the existing Git
>> > repositories and change the LDAP group which are used to determine write
>> > access...
>>
>> From the Incubator's point of view, I think an additional step is to
>> confirm and document if any Software Grants were needed for these
>> projects code and if yes if they've been filed as needed.
>>
>> This can be just a jira or other ticket documenting the move and
>> including this info.
>>
>> -Bertrand
>>
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com>.
Bertand, thanks for bringing this up. I'll chase those down.
Alan.
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:46 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:55 PM Josh Elser <el...@apache.org> wrote:
> > ...My current expectation is that we'd just rename the existing Git
> > repositories and change the LDAP group which are used to determine write
> > access...
>
> From the Incubator's point of view, I think an additional step is to
> confirm and document if any Software Grants were needed for these
> projects code and if yes if they've been filed as needed.
>
> This can be just a jira or other ticket documenting the move and
> including this info.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@codeconsult.ch>.
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:55 PM Josh Elser <el...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...My current expectation is that we'd just rename the existing Git
> repositories and change the LDAP group which are used to determine write
> access...
From the Incubator's point of view, I think an additional step is to
confirm and document if any Software Grants were needed for these
projects code and if yes if they've been filed as needed.
This can be just a jira or other ticket documenting the move and
including this info.
-Bertrand
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Josh Elser <el...@apache.org>.
(w/ VP Phoenix hat)
My current expectation is that we'd just rename the existing Git
repositories and change the LDAP group which are used to determine write
access. In other words, your Git repos will exist just as they do now,
but only at different coordinates.
On 10/25/19 12:27 AM, Ohad Shacham wrote:
> +1, Thanks Alan.
> Just wanted to verify that adopt means Omid and Tephra will sit in the same
> repo as Phoenix but will be able to checkout separately as well. I assume
> this is Phoenix folks decision.
> I know that in Yahoo Omid is used internally.
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 2:36 AM Gary Helmling <gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 this seems like the best option.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:29 PM Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 this would be a good outcome. Both Tephra and OMID are good
>>> technologies, with respective pros and cons, and Phoenix can make good
>> use
>>> of both of them, should they choose to accept ownership of the code.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:26 AM Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra,
>>>>
>>>> As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are
>> very
>>>> low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be
>>>> candidates for retirement.
>>>>
>>>> The situation here is somewhat special because Phoenix uses one or both
>>> of
>>>> these technologies (they are both transaction managers on top of
>> HBase),
>>> so
>>>> they may have an interest in their continued survival. Tephra briefly
>>>> discussed this last June[1], though nothing came of it. My conclusion
>> is
>>>> there is not enough momentum left for these podlings to vote themselves
>>>> into Phoenix without an external push.
>>>>
>>>> So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the
>>>> Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with
>>> the
>>>> knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
>>>> current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok with
>>>> this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any
>>> action
>>>> on this.
>>>>
>>>> Alan.
>>>>
>>>> 1.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/87ace080ef8a967b238781979a8d9a0cb9607ac4a195d5937756ec66@%3Cdev.tephra.apache.org%3E
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
>>> decrepit hands
>>> - A23, Crosstalk
>>>
>>
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Ohad Shacham <oh...@verizonmedia.com.INVALID>.
+1, Thanks Alan.
Just wanted to verify that adopt means Omid and Tephra will sit in the same
repo as Phoenix but will be able to checkout separately as well. I assume
this is Phoenix folks decision.
I know that in Yahoo Omid is used internally.
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 2:36 AM Gary Helmling <gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 this seems like the best option.
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:29 PM Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 this would be a good outcome. Both Tephra and OMID are good
> > technologies, with respective pros and cons, and Phoenix can make good
> use
> > of both of them, should they choose to accept ownership of the code.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:26 AM Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra,
> > >
> > > As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are
> very
> > > low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be
> > > candidates for retirement.
> > >
> > > The situation here is somewhat special because Phoenix uses one or both
> > of
> > > these technologies (they are both transaction managers on top of
> HBase),
> > so
> > > they may have an interest in their continued survival. Tephra briefly
> > > discussed this last June[1], though nothing came of it. My conclusion
> is
> > > there is not enough momentum left for these podlings to vote themselves
> > > into Phoenix without an external push.
> > >
> > > So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the
> > > Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with
> > the
> > > knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
> > > current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok with
> > > this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any
> > action
> > > on this.
> > >
> > > Alan.
> > >
> > > 1.
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/87ace080ef8a967b238781979a8d9a0cb9607ac4a195d5937756ec66@%3Cdev.tephra.apache.org%3E
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Andrew
> >
> > Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
> > decrepit hands
> > - A23, Crosstalk
> >
>
Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Gary Helmling <gh...@gmail.com>.
+1 this seems like the best option.
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:29 PM Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 this would be a good outcome. Both Tephra and OMID are good
> technologies, with respective pros and cons, and Phoenix can make good use
> of both of them, should they choose to accept ownership of the code.
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:26 AM Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra,
> >
> > As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are very
> > low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be
> > candidates for retirement.
> >
> > The situation here is somewhat special because Phoenix uses one or both
> of
> > these technologies (they are both transaction managers on top of HBase),
> so
> > they may have an interest in their continued survival. Tephra briefly
> > discussed this last June[1], though nothing came of it. My conclusion is
> > there is not enough momentum left for these podlings to vote themselves
> > into Phoenix without an external push.
> >
> > So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the
> > Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with
> the
> > knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
> > current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok with
> > this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any
> action
> > on this.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > 1.
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/87ace080ef8a967b238781979a8d9a0cb9607ac4a195d5937756ec66@%3Cdev.tephra.apache.org%3E
> >
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Andrew
>
> Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
> decrepit hands
> - A23, Crosstalk
>
Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>.
+1 this would be a good outcome. Both Tephra and OMID are good
technologies, with respective pros and cons, and Phoenix can make good use
of both of them, should they choose to accept ownership of the code.
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:26 AM Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra,
>
> As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are very
> low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be
> candidates for retirement.
>
> The situation here is somewhat special because Phoenix uses one or both of
> these technologies (they are both transaction managers on top of HBase), so
> they may have an interest in their continued survival. Tephra briefly
> discussed this last June[1], though nothing came of it. My conclusion is
> there is not enough momentum left for these podlings to vote themselves
> into Phoenix without an external push.
>
> So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the
> Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with the
> knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
> current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok with
> this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any action
> on this.
>
> Alan.
>
> 1.
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/87ace080ef8a967b238781979a8d9a0cb9607ac4a195d5937756ec66@%3Cdev.tephra.apache.org%3E
>
--
Best regards,
Andrew
Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
decrepit hands
- A23, Crosstalk
Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Andreas Neumann <an...@apache.org>.
+1 It seems to be the best option.
-Andreas
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 6:47 AM Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> +1
>
> Kind Regards,
> Furkan KAMACI
>
> 24 Eki 2019 Per, saat 07:11 tarihinde Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> jb@nanthrax.net>
> şunu yazdı:
>
> > +1, good idea.
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On 23/10/2019 20:16, Alan Gates wrote:
> > > Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra,
> > >
> > > As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are
> very
> > > low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be
> > > candidates for retirement.
> > >
> > > The situation here is somewhat special because Phoenix uses one or both
> > of
> > > these technologies (they are both transaction managers on top of
> HBase),
> > so
> > > they may have an interest in their continued survival. Tephra briefly
> > > discussed this last June[1], though nothing came of it. My conclusion
> is
> > > there is not enough momentum left for these podlings to vote themselves
> > > into Phoenix without an external push.
> > >
> > > So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the
> > > Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with
> > the
> > > knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
> > > current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok with
> > > this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any
> > action
> > > on this.
> > >
> > > Alan.
> > >
> > > 1.
> > >
> >
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
+1
Kind Regards,
Furkan KAMACI
24 Eki 2019 Per, saat 07:11 tarihinde Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
şunu yazdı:
> +1, good idea.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 23/10/2019 20:16, Alan Gates wrote:
> > Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra,
> >
> > As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are very
> > low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be
> > candidates for retirement.
> >
> > The situation here is somewhat special because Phoenix uses one or both
> of
> > these technologies (they are both transaction managers on top of HBase),
> so
> > they may have an interest in their continued survival. Tephra briefly
> > discussed this last June[1], though nothing came of it. My conclusion is
> > there is not enough momentum left for these podlings to vote themselves
> > into Phoenix without an external push.
> >
> > So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the
> > Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with
> the
> > knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
> > current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok with
> > this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any
> action
> > on this.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > 1.
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/87ace080ef8a967b238781979a8d9a0cb9607ac4a195d5937756ec66@%3Cdev.tephra.apache.org%3E
> >
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
+1, good idea.
Regards
JB
On 23/10/2019 20:16, Alan Gates wrote:
> Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra,
>
> As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are very
> low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be
> candidates for retirement.
>
> The situation here is somewhat special because Phoenix uses one or both of
> these technologies (they are both transaction managers on top of HBase), so
> they may have an interest in their continued survival. Tephra briefly
> discussed this last June[1], though nothing came of it. My conclusion is
> there is not enough momentum left for these podlings to vote themselves
> into Phoenix without an external push.
>
> So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the
> Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with the
> knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
> current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok with
> this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any action
> on this.
>
> Alan.
>
> 1.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/87ace080ef8a967b238781979a8d9a0cb9607ac4a195d5937756ec66@%3Cdev.tephra.apache.org%3E
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com>.
Hi,
> So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the
> Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with the
> knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
> current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok with
> this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any action
> on this.
Sounds like an excellent plan. +1
Thanks,
Justin
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Francisco Perez-Sorrosal <fp...@apache.org>.
On 2019/10/23 18:16:31, Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra,
>
> As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are very
> low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be
> candidates for retirement.
>
> The situation here is somewhat special because Phoenix uses one or both of
> these technologies (they are both transaction managers on top of HBase), so
> they may have an interest in their continued survival. Tephra briefly
> discussed this last June[1], though nothing came of it. My conclusion is
> there is not enough momentum left for these podlings to vote themselves
> into Phoenix without an external push.
>
> So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the
> Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with the
> knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
> current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok with
> this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any action
> on this.
>
> Alan.
>
> 1.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/87ace080ef8a967b238781979a8d9a0cb9607ac4a195d5937756ec66@%3Cdev.tephra.apache.org%3E
>
+1 Looks like a good idea to me
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by James Taylor <ja...@apache.org>.
+1. That seems like the best course of action IMHO.
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 12:54 PM Flavio Junqueira <fp...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1
>
> -Flavio
>
> > On 23 Oct 2019, at 21:08, Terence Yim <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > +1 on this
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:36 Dave Fisher <wa...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> +1. That’s a good idea.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra,
> >>>
> >>> As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are
> very
> >>> low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be
> >>> candidates for retirement.
> >>>
> >>> The situation here is somewhat special because Phoenix uses one or both
> >> of
> >>> these technologies (they are both transaction managers on top of
> HBase),
> >> so
> >>> they may have an interest in their continued survival. Tephra briefly
> >>> discussed this last June[1], though nothing came of it. My conclusion
> is
> >>> there is not enough momentum left for these podlings to vote themselves
> >>> into Phoenix without an external push.
> >>>
> >>> So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the
> >>> Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with
> >> the
> >>> knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
> >>> current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok with
> >>> this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any
> >> action
> >>> on this.
> >>>
> >>> Alan.
> >>>
> >>> 1.
> >>>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/87ace080ef8a967b238781979a8d9a0cb9607ac4a195d5937756ec66@%3Cdev.tephra.apache.org%3E
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Flavio Junqueira <fp...@apache.org>.
+1
-Flavio
> On 23 Oct 2019, at 21:08, Terence Yim <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 on this
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:36 Dave Fisher <wa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> +1. That’s a good idea.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra,
>>>
>>> As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are very
>>> low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be
>>> candidates for retirement.
>>>
>>> The situation here is somewhat special because Phoenix uses one or both
>> of
>>> these technologies (they are both transaction managers on top of HBase),
>> so
>>> they may have an interest in their continued survival. Tephra briefly
>>> discussed this last June[1], though nothing came of it. My conclusion is
>>> there is not enough momentum left for these podlings to vote themselves
>>> into Phoenix without an external push.
>>>
>>> So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the
>>> Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with
>> the
>>> knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
>>> current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok with
>>> this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any
>> action
>>> on this.
>>>
>>> Alan.
>>>
>>> 1.
>>>
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Terence Yim <ch...@gmail.com>.
+1 on this
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:36 Dave Fisher <wa...@comcast.net> wrote:
> +1. That’s a good idea.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 23, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra,
> >
> > As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are very
> > low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be
> > candidates for retirement.
> >
> > The situation here is somewhat special because Phoenix uses one or both
> of
> > these technologies (they are both transaction managers on top of HBase),
> so
> > they may have an interest in their continued survival. Tephra briefly
> > discussed this last June[1], though nothing came of it. My conclusion is
> > there is not enough momentum left for these podlings to vote themselves
> > into Phoenix without an external push.
> >
> > So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the
> > Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with
> the
> > knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
> > current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok with
> > this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any
> action
> > on this.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > 1.
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/87ace080ef8a967b238781979a8d9a0cb9607ac4a195d5937756ec66@%3Cdev.tephra.apache.org%3E
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Re: Omid and Tephra
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@comcast.net>.
+1. That’s a good idea.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 23, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra,
>
> As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are very
> low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be
> candidates for retirement.
>
> The situation here is somewhat special because Phoenix uses one or both of
> these technologies (they are both transaction managers on top of HBase), so
> they may have an interest in their continued survival. Tephra briefly
> discussed this last June[1], though nothing came of it. My conclusion is
> there is not enough momentum left for these podlings to vote themselves
> into Phoenix without an external push.
>
> So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the
> Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with the
> knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from
> current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok with
> this I can contact the Phoenix PMC and see if they wish to take any action
> on this.
>
> Alan.
>
> 1.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/87ace080ef8a967b238781979a8d9a0cb9607ac4a195d5937756ec66@%3Cdev.tephra.apache.org%3E
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