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[PROPOSAL] Graduate!
Ok, so I think we've done everything we need to do, so I'm proposing we
graduate. I've got a draft for the charter we'd submit to the IPMC and then
the board at https://wiki.apache.org/jclouds/GraduationCharter - note that
I did put myself down as VP, but would be perfectly fine with someone else
taking it. I'm just kinda there by default.
For the initial members, well, I'm assuming that translates directly to PMC
- so I didn't include Zach there. I imagine we might have to do a little
juryrigging of commit rights after the graduation finishes, but I didn't
want to blur lines.
I did include only one of the mentors on the top-level PMC, David Nalley.
If any other mentors would like to be on the PMC, just add your names there
- I didn't want to make any presumptions of who wanted in/who didn't, and
have always found the "mentors end up as top-level PMC by default" thing a
bit silly. =)
I also included all the initial committers/PPMC members on the top-level
PMC, including those who haven't been active for a while - again, if anyone
would like to be removed from that list, just ask.
Thoughts?
A.
Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate!
Posted by Ignasi <ig...@gmail.com>.
The text looks good to me too.
On Monday, 16 September 2013, Andrew Bayer wrote:
> It's up to the project to decide - but if I remember correctly, we put an
> annual rotation in the bylaws - it can repeat, but it has to be explicitly
> decided annually.
>
> A.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Andrew Phillips <aphillips@qrmedia.com<javascript:;>
> >wrote:
>
> > Text looks fine with me. Having seen a few announcements go by on
> general@,
> > what's the normal practice for VPs? Is it common for them to rotate on
> some
> > schedule, e.g. once a year? Is that something for each project to decide.
> >
> > Also, do we have a list of outstanding items (IP clearance?) anywhere?
> >
> > ap
> >
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate!
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
It's up to the project to decide - but if I remember correctly, we put an
annual rotation in the bylaws - it can repeat, but it has to be explicitly
decided annually.
A.
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Andrew Phillips <ap...@qrmedia.com>wrote:
> Text looks fine with me. Having seen a few announcements go by on general@,
> what's the normal practice for VPs? Is it common for them to rotate on some
> schedule, e.g. once a year? Is that something for each project to decide.
>
> Also, do we have a list of outstanding items (IP clearance?) anywhere?
>
> ap
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate!
Posted by Andrew Phillips <ap...@qrmedia.com>.
Text looks fine with me. Having seen a few announcements go by on
general@, what's the normal practice for VPs? Is it common for them to
rotate on some schedule, e.g. once a year? Is that something for each
project to decide.
Also, do we have a list of outstanding items (IP clearance?) anywhere?
ap
Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate!
Posted by Adrian Cole <ad...@gmail.com>.
LGTM.
Nice job.
-A
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Ok, so I think we've done everything we need to do, so I'm proposing we
> graduate. I've got a draft for the charter we'd submit to the IPMC and then
> the board at https://wiki.apache.org/jclouds/GraduationCharter - note that
> I did put myself down as VP, but would be perfectly fine with someone else
> taking it. I'm just kinda there by default.
>
> For the initial members, well, I'm assuming that translates directly to PMC
> - so I didn't include Zach there. I imagine we might have to do a little
> juryrigging of commit rights after the graduation finishes, but I didn't
> want to blur lines.
>
> I did include only one of the mentors on the top-level PMC, David Nalley.
> If any other mentors would like to be on the PMC, just add your names there
> - I didn't want to make any presumptions of who wanted in/who didn't, and
> have always found the "mentors end up as top-level PMC by default" thing a
> bit silly. =)
>
> I also included all the initial committers/PPMC members on the top-level
> PMC, including those who haven't been active for a while - again, if anyone
> would like to be removed from that list, just ask.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> A.
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate!
Posted by Noorul Islam Kamal Malmiyoda <no...@noorul.com>.
On Sep 17, 2013 12:19 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ok, so I think we've done everything we need to do, so I'm proposing we
> graduate. I've got a draft for the charter we'd submit to the IPMC and
then
> the board at https://wiki.apache.org/jclouds/GraduationCharter - note that
> I did put myself down as VP, but would be perfectly fine with someone else
> taking it. I'm just kinda there by default.
>
> For the initial members, well, I'm assuming that translates directly to
PMC
> - so I didn't include Zach there. I imagine we might have to do a little
> juryrigging of commit rights after the graduation finishes, but I didn't
> want to blur lines.
>
> I did include only one of the mentors on the top-level PMC, David Nalley.
> If any other mentors would like to be on the PMC, just add your names
there
> - I didn't want to make any presumptions of who wanted in/who didn't, and
> have always found the "mentors end up as top-level PMC by default" thing a
> bit silly. =)
>
> I also included all the initial committers/PPMC members on the top-level
> PMC, including those who haven't been active for a while - again, if
anyone
> would like to be removed from that list, just ask.
>
> Thoughts?
>
Congratulations!
- Noorul
Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate!
Posted by Andrew Phillips <ap...@qrmedia.com>.
> I'd wait (72 hours is not that much).
After a couple of months now, we can hopefully survive a few more
hours of nervous tension ;-)
ap
Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate!
Posted by Ignasi <ig...@gmail.com>.
I'd wait (72 hours is not that much).
The vote is open for the entire community, not only mentors and PMC, and it
would be good to let everyone express their opinion, even if it is
non-binding.
El 18/09/2013 01:31, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> escribió:
> Maybe not, but that'd mean all the PPMC and mentors voting. =)
>
> A.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Everett Toews
> <ev...@rackspace.com>wrote:
>
> > If we wind up with a 100% vote do we need to wait the 72 hours?
> >
> > Everett
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew Bayer [andrew.bayer@gmail.com]
> > Received: Tuesday, 17 Sep 2013, 3:38PM
> > To: dev@jclouds.incubator.apache.org [dev@jclouds.incubator.apache.org]
> > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate!
> >
> > Alright then, formal vote thread incoming in a bit!
> >
> > A.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Everett Toews <
> > everett.toews@rackspace.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Thanks for starting this abayer.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Everett
> > >
> > > On Sep 16, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok, so I think we've done everything we need to do, so I'm proposing
> we
> > > > graduate. I've got a draft for the charter we'd submit to the IPMC
> and
> > > then
> > > > the board at https://wiki.apache.org/jclouds/GraduationCharter -
> note
> > > that
> > > > I did put myself down as VP, but would be perfectly fine with someone
> > > else
> > > > taking it. I'm just kinda there by default.
> > > >
> > > > For the initial members, well, I'm assuming that translates directly
> to
> > > PMC
> > > > - so I didn't include Zach there. I imagine we might have to do a
> > little
> > > > juryrigging of commit rights after the graduation finishes, but I
> > didn't
> > > > want to blur lines.
> > > >
> > > > I did include only one of the mentors on the top-level PMC, David
> > Nalley.
> > > > If any other mentors would like to be on the PMC, just add your names
> > > there
> > > > - I didn't want to make any presumptions of who wanted in/who didn't,
> > and
> > > > have always found the "mentors end up as top-level PMC by default"
> > thing
> > > a
> > > > bit silly. =)
> > > >
> > > > I also included all the initial committers/PPMC members on the
> > top-level
> > > > PMC, including those who haven't been active for a while - again, if
> > > anyone
> > > > would like to be removed from that list, just ask.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > A.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate!
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
Maybe not, but that'd mean all the PPMC and mentors voting. =)
A.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Everett Toews
<ev...@rackspace.com>wrote:
> If we wind up with a 100% vote do we need to wait the 72 hours?
>
> Everett
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Bayer [andrew.bayer@gmail.com]
> Received: Tuesday, 17 Sep 2013, 3:38PM
> To: dev@jclouds.incubator.apache.org [dev@jclouds.incubator.apache.org]
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate!
>
> Alright then, formal vote thread incoming in a bit!
>
> A.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Everett Toews <
> everett.toews@rackspace.com
> > wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > Thanks for starting this abayer.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Everett
> >
> > On Sep 16, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, so I think we've done everything we need to do, so I'm proposing we
> > > graduate. I've got a draft for the charter we'd submit to the IPMC and
> > then
> > > the board at https://wiki.apache.org/jclouds/GraduationCharter - note
> > that
> > > I did put myself down as VP, but would be perfectly fine with someone
> > else
> > > taking it. I'm just kinda there by default.
> > >
> > > For the initial members, well, I'm assuming that translates directly to
> > PMC
> > > - so I didn't include Zach there. I imagine we might have to do a
> little
> > > juryrigging of commit rights after the graduation finishes, but I
> didn't
> > > want to blur lines.
> > >
> > > I did include only one of the mentors on the top-level PMC, David
> Nalley.
> > > If any other mentors would like to be on the PMC, just add your names
> > there
> > > - I didn't want to make any presumptions of who wanted in/who didn't,
> and
> > > have always found the "mentors end up as top-level PMC by default"
> thing
> > a
> > > bit silly. =)
> > >
> > > I also included all the initial committers/PPMC members on the
> top-level
> > > PMC, including those who haven't been active for a while - again, if
> > anyone
> > > would like to be removed from that list, just ask.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > A.
> >
> >
>
RE: [PROPOSAL] Graduate!
Posted by Everett Toews <ev...@RACKSPACE.COM>.
If we wind up with a 100% vote do we need to wait the 72 hours?
Everett
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Bayer [andrew.bayer@gmail.com]
Received: Tuesday, 17 Sep 2013, 3:38PM
To: dev@jclouds.incubator.apache.org [dev@jclouds.incubator.apache.org]
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate!
Alright then, formal vote thread incoming in a bit!
A.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Everett Toews <everett.toews@rackspace.com
> wrote:
> +1
>
> Thanks for starting this abayer.
>
> Cheers,
> Everett
>
> On Sep 16, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
>
> > Ok, so I think we've done everything we need to do, so I'm proposing we
> > graduate. I've got a draft for the charter we'd submit to the IPMC and
> then
> > the board at https://wiki.apache.org/jclouds/GraduationCharter - note
> that
> > I did put myself down as VP, but would be perfectly fine with someone
> else
> > taking it. I'm just kinda there by default.
> >
> > For the initial members, well, I'm assuming that translates directly to
> PMC
> > - so I didn't include Zach there. I imagine we might have to do a little
> > juryrigging of commit rights after the graduation finishes, but I didn't
> > want to blur lines.
> >
> > I did include only one of the mentors on the top-level PMC, David Nalley.
> > If any other mentors would like to be on the PMC, just add your names
> there
> > - I didn't want to make any presumptions of who wanted in/who didn't, and
> > have always found the "mentors end up as top-level PMC by default" thing
> a
> > bit silly. =)
> >
> > I also included all the initial committers/PPMC members on the top-level
> > PMC, including those who haven't been active for a while - again, if
> anyone
> > would like to be removed from that list, just ask.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > A.
>
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate!
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
Alright then, formal vote thread incoming in a bit!
A.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Everett Toews <everett.toews@rackspace.com
> wrote:
> +1
>
> Thanks for starting this abayer.
>
> Cheers,
> Everett
>
> On Sep 16, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
>
> > Ok, so I think we've done everything we need to do, so I'm proposing we
> > graduate. I've got a draft for the charter we'd submit to the IPMC and
> then
> > the board at https://wiki.apache.org/jclouds/GraduationCharter - note
> that
> > I did put myself down as VP, but would be perfectly fine with someone
> else
> > taking it. I'm just kinda there by default.
> >
> > For the initial members, well, I'm assuming that translates directly to
> PMC
> > - so I didn't include Zach there. I imagine we might have to do a little
> > juryrigging of commit rights after the graduation finishes, but I didn't
> > want to blur lines.
> >
> > I did include only one of the mentors on the top-level PMC, David Nalley.
> > If any other mentors would like to be on the PMC, just add your names
> there
> > - I didn't want to make any presumptions of who wanted in/who didn't, and
> > have always found the "mentors end up as top-level PMC by default" thing
> a
> > bit silly. =)
> >
> > I also included all the initial committers/PPMC members on the top-level
> > PMC, including those who haven't been active for a while - again, if
> anyone
> > would like to be removed from that list, just ask.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > A.
>
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate!
Posted by Everett Toews <ev...@RACKSPACE.COM>.
+1
Thanks for starting this abayer.
Cheers,
Everett
On Sep 16, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
> Ok, so I think we've done everything we need to do, so I'm proposing we
> graduate. I've got a draft for the charter we'd submit to the IPMC and then
> the board at https://wiki.apache.org/jclouds/GraduationCharter - note that
> I did put myself down as VP, but would be perfectly fine with someone else
> taking it. I'm just kinda there by default.
>
> For the initial members, well, I'm assuming that translates directly to PMC
> - so I didn't include Zach there. I imagine we might have to do a little
> juryrigging of commit rights after the graduation finishes, but I didn't
> want to blur lines.
>
> I did include only one of the mentors on the top-level PMC, David Nalley.
> If any other mentors would like to be on the PMC, just add your names there
> - I didn't want to make any presumptions of who wanted in/who didn't, and
> have always found the "mentors end up as top-level PMC by default" thing a
> bit silly. =)
>
> I also included all the initial committers/PPMC members on the top-level
> PMC, including those who haven't been active for a while - again, if anyone
> would like to be removed from that list, just ask.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> A.