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Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this Real
Time deletion to work in OM 5.
Can you please advise how to make the delete functionality work.
Thanks,
Dan
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
You may have missed a moodle confiig to stop teacher from doing
admin tasks.
As I have been saying the Clean WB function does not remove
the files. They reappear . Not the desired outcome.
Should clean the same way it cleans in OM UI.
On 10/16/2019 2:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> You were able to perform OM Admin task as Moodle teacher
> This is Moodle plugin was designed for
> All you do from plugging (except "Clean WB" are ADMIN TASKS)
> All these actions can be done in ADMIN OM UI ONLY!!!!!
>
> Current "Clean WB" button do exactly what you want:
> 1) drop all current white boards
> IF room files were configured
> 2) creates these files and their correspondent white board
>
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 14:08, Daniel Baker
> <info@collisiondetection.biz <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>
> I have been able to edit as teacher the settings. See picture
> below.
>
> As this has been a matter of contention I would be happy
> enough to just delete all WBs. All 20 +
> At a later date when everybody concerned feels willing we
> could arrange to clean by each WB
>
> On 10/16/2019 1:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>> Daniel,
>>
>> Moodle plugin is written to perform Admin actions: prepare the
>> room for the lesson
>> And works as designed
>>
>> Currently there is no APi function to "would allow the teacher
>> to interact with the API and perform the same results as
>> Clean Wb in OM UI."
>>
>> let's imaging such function exists
>> Which WB in room should be cleaned in case there are 20 of them
>> in the particular room?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 10:53, Daniel Baker
>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>
>> The teacher could use the OM UI, but that would not
>> be ideal from an API interaction perspective. Let me
>> show you our interface that hooks into your APIs:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You see that red button. That, we was hoping, would
>> allow the teacher to interact with the API and perform the
>> same results as Clean Wb in OM UI.
>>
>> I personally don't think this is requesting too much from
>> your software.
>>
>>
>> On 10/16/2019 10:44 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>> Np teacher can use regular OM UI after he/she enters the room
>>>
>>> Moodle plugin perform "admin" tasks
>>> Only admin in om can change room type/name
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 10:40 Daniel Baker
>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well the plugin is for the teacher to upload and
>>> delete files to OM . You do not have to be an admin
>>> to do that in moodle with this plugin.
>>>
>>>
>>> The teacher does not want to see a reappearance
>>> of files.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lets take your analogy of a lecture room :
>>>
>>>
>>> Teacher draws on WB . Teacher makes mistake.
>>> Teacher wants to delete mistake. Teacher presses '
>>> clean wb'. Teacher should now see a clean WB -no
>>> objects.
>>>
>>>
>>> The teacher does not want to see the same mistake
>>> reappear. Currently when clicking clean wb nothing
>>> is removed from the WB and the mistake reappears.
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> Surely you can see the benefit of removing the mistake
>>> in real time. Just like how it does in OM currently.
>>> The API should be the same as OM.
>>>
>>>
>>> Currently the teacher would be in an infinite loop
>>> trying to remove the mistake and seeing it reappear. :-(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/16/2019 9:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> No, it shouldn't be designed the same as clean wb
>>>> in OM.
>>>> Because the Moodle plugin is designed for Admins: same
>>>> way as OM->Admin is designed for admins
>>>>
>>>> I'll try to describe this one more time using analog in
>>>> the real world
>>>>
>>>> Imaging following situation
>>>> Early morning in some University (let it be Sorbonne
>>>> for ex.)
>>>> The auditory is clean and empty
>>>> Only some "Initial" materials are being set up
>>>>
>>>> Then the first class ends
>>>> The Black board is all written
>>>> All slides are at some non-initial positions etc.
>>>>
>>>> Then next class should have same lecture ...
>>>>
>>>> And the teacher now have magic button: "rewing the
>>>> auditory status to the initial position" - and it works
>>>> exactly like this
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:25, Daniel Baker
>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Clean wb in moodle plugin should be designed
>>>> the same as clean wb in OM. Yes it should
>>>> remove files and not reappear.
>>>>
>>>> If teacher wants to remove files it should
>>>> be the same as removing files in OM. Moderators
>>>> are able to remove files.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is consistent and clear logic.Can you do
>>>> that or shall I try ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/15/2019 10:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading
>>>>> Add-remove room files has nothing in common with
>>>>> manual add/remove files to the room
>>>>> This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in
>>>>> Admin->Conference rooms->Room->Room files
>>>>>
>>>>> Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in
>>>>> common with Room clean single WB
>>>>> It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all
>>>>> white-boards with all contents is dropped
>>>>> Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room
>>>>> files and its white-board indices ....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker
>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think if the teacher presses the
>>>>> button 'Clear WB' we should honor that
>>>>> request with deleting the files on the WB.
>>>>> The files should not reappear on the WB.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file
>>>>> then it should be removed from the file list.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have included a picture that shows what
>>>>> should be the equivalent logic in OM and
>>>>> the Moodle plugin.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>> It is by design
>>>>>> Room files were designed to be loaded at the
>>>>>> time the room being accessed the first time
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main idea is: the teacher/organizer
>>>>>> should be able to check the room after the
>>>>>> lesson is over ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker
>>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deleting files from the list of room
>>>>>> files does not remove the files from
>>>>>> the WB in real time though , does it ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> No,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> File are deleted from the list of room
>>>>>>> files (can be checked in
>>>>>>> Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After files are deleted they with NOT
>>>>>>> re-appear
>>>>>>> So I see no area of improvement here
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel
>>>>>>> Baker <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You delete files from the WB then
>>>>>>> they reappear. I think this is the
>>>>>>> confusing aspect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you please program it so that
>>>>>>> you click delete then they are
>>>>>>> deleted and do not reappear on the
>>>>>>> WB . Otherwise it is not deleting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim
>>>>>>> Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All objects including manually
>>>>>>>> added files and drawings are being
>>>>>>>> removed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> THEN is there were room files they
>>>>>>>> will be loaded
>>>>>>>> So WB will look like on first enter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12,
>>>>>>>> Daniel Baker
>>>>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The clean WB button does not
>>>>>>>> clean the files Maxim.
>>>>>>>> Nothing is removed from the WB.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim
>>>>>>>> Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Room files" is sort of
>>>>>>>>> "auto-preload" list for the room
>>>>>>>>> So if room is accesses for the
>>>>>>>>> first time: these files will
>>>>>>>>> be loaded to the room
>>>>>>>>> On the second enter all WB
>>>>>>>>> items including files and
>>>>>>>>> drawings will remain "as-is"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can use "Clean WB" button
>>>>>>>>> this way all existing room
>>>>>>>>> items (including drawings and
>>>>>>>>> manually added items) will be
>>>>>>>>> wiped out
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04,
>>>>>>>>> Daniel Baker
>>>>>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the repetition
>>>>>>>>> but the logic is
>>>>>>>>> difficult to grasp.
>>>>>>>>> All I want to do is
>>>>>>>>> delete a file from the
>>>>>>>>> WB in real time. I can
>>>>>>>>> not see how the logic
>>>>>>>>> below achieves that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You say it deletes file
>>>>>>>>> from auto-pre-load. How
>>>>>>>>> does that work?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM,
>>>>>>>>> Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wrote you many, many
>>>>>>>>>> times: delete checkbox
>>>>>>>>>> only deletes files from
>>>>>>>>>> "auto pre-load"
>>>>>>>>>> Same way: you can
>>>>>>>>>> manually draw something
>>>>>>>>>> on WB, manually drop some
>>>>>>>>>> files to WB
>>>>>>>>>> Exit and enter the room
>>>>>>>>>> and you will see same WB
>>>>>>>>>> (with drawing and files)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You need to "wipe out"
>>>>>>>>>> the whole WB
>>>>>>>>>> Then it will be
>>>>>>>>>> re-created with new files
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at
>>>>>>>>>> 10:43, Daniel Baker
>>>>>>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok so it is
>>>>>>>>>> possible to delete
>>>>>>>>>> files but the process
>>>>>>>>>> is rather
>>>>>>>>>> convoluted.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It makes me think
>>>>>>>>>> 'remove' files check
>>>>>>>>>> box should have
>>>>>>>>>> beside it a button
>>>>>>>>>> that says 'delete
>>>>>>>>>> files and clean WB.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I created a video of
>>>>>>>>>> the process of
>>>>>>>>>> deleting files. It
>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>> complicated. You can
>>>>>>>>>> view it in VLC media
>>>>>>>>>> player.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14
>>>>>>>>>> PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > Sorry to be harping
>>>>>>>>>> on about this but I
>>>>>>>>>> can't get this Real
>>>>>>>>>> > Time deletion to
>>>>>>>>>> work in OM 5.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Can you please
>>>>>>>>>> advise how to make
>>>>>>>>>> the delete
>>>>>>>>>> functionality work.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Dan
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
You were able to perform OM Admin task as Moodle teacher
This is Moodle plugin was designed for
All you do from plugging (except "Clean WB" are ADMIN TASKS)
All these actions can be done in ADMIN OM UI ONLY!!!!!
Current "Clean WB" button do exactly what you want:
1) drop all current white boards
IF room files were configured
2) creates these files and their correspondent white board
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 14:08, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
wrote:
> I have been able to edit as teacher the settings. See picture below.
>
> As this has been a matter of contention I would be happy enough to
> just delete all WBs. All 20 +
> At a later date when everybody concerned feels willing we could
> arrange to clean by each WB
>
> On 10/16/2019 1:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> Daniel,
>
> Moodle plugin is written to perform Admin actions: prepare the room for
> the lesson
> And works as designed
>
> Currently there is no APi function to "would allow the teacher to
> interact with the API and perform the same results as Clean Wb in OM
> UI."
>
> let's imaging such function exists
> Which WB in room should be cleaned in case there are 20 of them in the
> particular room?
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 10:53, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
> wrote:
>
>> The teacher could use the OM UI, but that would not be ideal
>> from an API interaction perspective. Let me show you our interface
>> that hooks into your APIs:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You see that red button. That, we was hoping, would allow the
>> teacher to interact with the API and perform the same results as
>> Clean Wb in OM UI.
>>
>> I personally don't think this is requesting too much from your
>> software.
>>
>>
>> On 10/16/2019 10:44 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> Np teacher can use regular OM UI after he/she enters the room
>>
>> Moodle plugin perform "admin" tasks
>> Only admin in om can change room type/name
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 10:40 Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well the plugin is for the teacher to upload and delete files
>>> to OM . You do not have to be an admin to do that in moodle with this
>>> plugin.
>>>
>>>
>>> The teacher does not want to see a reappearance of files.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lets take your analogy of a lecture room :
>>>
>>>
>>> Teacher draws on WB . Teacher makes mistake. Teacher wants
>>> to delete mistake. Teacher presses ' clean wb'. Teacher should now
>>> see a clean WB -no objects.
>>>
>>>
>>> The teacher does not want to see the same mistake reappear.
>>> Currently when clicking clean wb nothing is removed from the WB and
>>> the mistake reappears.
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> Surely you can see the benefit of removing the mistake in real time.
>>> Just like how it does in OM currently. The API should be the same
>>> as OM.
>>>
>>>
>>> Currently the teacher would be in an infinite loop trying to
>>> remove the mistake and seeing it reappear. :-(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/16/2019 9:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>> No, it shouldn't be designed the same as clean wb in OM.
>>> Because the Moodle plugin is designed for Admins: same way as OM->Admin
>>> is designed for admins
>>>
>>> I'll try to describe this one more time using analog in the real world
>>>
>>> Imaging following situation
>>> Early morning in some University (let it be Sorbonne for ex.)
>>> The auditory is clean and empty
>>> Only some "Initial" materials are being set up
>>>
>>> Then the first class ends
>>> The Black board is all written
>>> All slides are at some non-initial positions etc.
>>>
>>> Then next class should have same lecture ...
>>>
>>> And the teacher now have magic button: "rewing the auditory status to
>>> the initial position" - and it works exactly like this
>>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:25, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Clean wb in moodle plugin should be designed the same as
>>>> clean wb in OM. Yes it should remove files and not reappear.
>>>>
>>>> If teacher wants to remove files it should be the same as
>>>> removing files in OM. Moderators are able to remove files.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is consistent and clear logic.Can you do that or shall I
>>>> try ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/15/2019 10:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading
>>>> Add-remove room files has nothing in common with manual add/remove
>>>> files to the room
>>>> This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in Admin->Conference
>>>> rooms->Room->Room files
>>>>
>>>> Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in common with Room clean
>>>> single WB
>>>> It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all white-boards with all
>>>> contents is dropped
>>>> Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room files and its
>>>> white-board indices ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think if the teacher presses the button 'Clear WB' we
>>>>> should honor that request with deleting the files on the WB. The
>>>>> files should not reappear on the WB.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file then it should be
>>>>> removed from the file list.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have included a picture that shows what should be the
>>>>> equivalent logic in OM and the Moodle plugin.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes
>>>>> It is by design
>>>>> Room files were designed to be loaded at the time the room being
>>>>> accessed the first time
>>>>>
>>>>> The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be able to check the
>>>>> room after the lesson is over ....
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker <
>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Deleting files from the list of room files does not remove the
>>>>>> files from the WB in real time though , does it ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> File are deleted from the list of room files (can be checked in
>>>>>> Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
>>>>>> So I see no area of improvement here
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker <
>>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You delete files from the WB then they reappear. I think
>>>>>>> this is the confusing aspect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you please program it so that you click delete then they
>>>>>>> are deleted and do not reappear on the WB . Otherwise it is not
>>>>>>> deleting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All objects including manually added files and drawings are being
>>>>>>> removed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> THEN is there were room files they will be loaded
>>>>>>> So WB will look like on first enter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker <
>>>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The clean WB button does not clean the files Maxim.
>>>>>>>> Nothing is removed from the WB.
>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for the room
>>>>>>>> So if room is accesses for the first time: these files will be
>>>>>>>> loaded to the room
>>>>>>>> On the second enter all WB items including files and drawings will
>>>>>>>> remain "as-is"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all existing room items
>>>>>>>> (including drawings and manually added items) will be wiped out
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker <
>>>>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the repetition but the logic is difficult to
>>>>>>>>> grasp.
>>>>>>>>> All I want to do is delete a file from the WB in real
>>>>>>>>> time. I can not see how the logic below achieves that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load. How does
>>>>>>>>> that work?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only deletes files
>>>>>>>>> from "auto pre-load"
>>>>>>>>> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB, manually drop
>>>>>>>>> some files to WB
>>>>>>>>> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with drawing and
>>>>>>>>> files)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>>>>>>>>> Then it will be re-created with new files
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker <
>>>>>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the process is
>>>>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>>>>> convoluted.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It makes me think 'remove' files check box should
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> beside it a button that says 'delete files and clean WB.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I created a video of the process of deleting files. It seems
>>>>>>>>>> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this
>>>>>>>>>> Real
>>>>>>>>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Can you please advise how to make the delete
>>>>>>>>>> functionality work.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Dan
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
I have been able to edit as teacher the settings. See picture below.
As this has been a matter of contention I would be happy enough to
just delete all WBs. All 20 +
At a later date when everybody concerned feels willing we could
arrange to clean by each WB
On 10/16/2019 1:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> Moodle plugin is written to perform Admin actions: prepare the room
> for the lesson
> And works as designed
>
> Currently there is no APi function to "would allow the teacher to
> interact with the API and perform the same results as Clean Wb in
> OM UI."
>
> let's imaging such function exists
> Which WB in room should be cleaned in case there are 20 of them in the
> particular room?
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 10:53, Daniel Baker
> <info@collisiondetection.biz <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>
> The teacher could use the OM UI, but that would not be
> ideal from an API interaction perspective. Let me show you
> our interface that hooks into your APIs:
>
>
>
>
> You see that red button. That, we was hoping, would allow
> the teacher to interact with the API and perform the same
> results as Clean Wb in OM UI.
>
> I personally don't think this is requesting too much from your
> software.
>
>
> On 10/16/2019 10:44 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>> Np teacher can use regular OM UI after he/she enters the room
>>
>> Moodle plugin perform "admin" tasks
>> Only admin in om can change room type/name
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 10:40 Daniel Baker
>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>
>> Well the plugin is for the teacher to upload and
>> delete files to OM . You do not have to be an admin to
>> do that in moodle with this plugin.
>>
>>
>> The teacher does not want to see a reappearance of
>> files.
>>
>>
>> Lets take your analogy of a lecture room :
>>
>>
>> Teacher draws on WB . Teacher makes mistake.
>> Teacher wants to delete mistake. Teacher presses ' clean
>> wb'. Teacher should now see a clean WB -no objects.
>>
>>
>> The teacher does not want to see the same mistake
>> reappear. Currently when clicking clean wb nothing is
>> removed from the WB and the mistake reappears.
>>
>> .
>>
>> Surely you can see the benefit of removing the mistake in
>> real time. Just like how it does in OM currently. The API
>> should be the same as OM.
>>
>>
>> Currently the teacher would be in an infinite loop trying
>> to remove the mistake and seeing it reappear. :-(
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/16/2019 9:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>> No, it shouldn't be designed the same as clean wb in OM.
>>> Because the Moodle plugin is designed for Admins: same way
>>> as OM->Admin is designed for admins
>>>
>>> I'll try to describe this one more time using analog in the
>>> real world
>>>
>>> Imaging following situation
>>> Early morning in some University (let it be Sorbonne for ex.)
>>> The auditory is clean and empty
>>> Only some "Initial" materials are being set up
>>>
>>> Then the first class ends
>>> The Black board is all written
>>> All slides are at some non-initial positions etc.
>>>
>>> Then next class should have same lecture ...
>>>
>>> And the teacher now have magic button: "rewing the auditory
>>> status to the initial position" - and it works exactly like this
>>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:25, Daniel Baker
>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Clean wb in moodle plugin should be designed the
>>> same as clean wb in OM. Yes it should remove
>>> files and not reappear.
>>>
>>> If teacher wants to remove files it should be the
>>> same as removing files in OM. Moderators are able to
>>> remove files.
>>>
>>>
>>> That is consistent and clear logic.Can you do that
>>> or shall I try ?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/15/2019 10:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>> Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading
>>>> Add-remove room files has nothing in common with manual
>>>> add/remove files to the room
>>>> This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in
>>>> Admin->Conference rooms->Room->Room files
>>>>
>>>> Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in common
>>>> with Room clean single WB
>>>> It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all white-boards
>>>> with all contents is dropped
>>>> Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room files
>>>> and its white-board indices ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker
>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think if the teacher presses the button
>>>> 'Clear WB' we should honor that request with
>>>> deleting the files on the WB. The files
>>>> should not reappear on the WB.
>>>>
>>>> If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file then
>>>> it should be removed from the file list.
>>>>
>>>> I have included a picture that shows what
>>>> should be the equivalent logic in OM and the
>>>> Moodle plugin.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>> Yes
>>>>> It is by design
>>>>> Room files were designed to be loaded at the time
>>>>> the room being accessed the first time
>>>>>
>>>>> The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be
>>>>> able to check the room after the lesson is over ....
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker
>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Deleting files from the list of room files
>>>>> does not remove the files from the WB in
>>>>> real time though , does it ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>> No,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> File are deleted from the list of room files
>>>>>> (can be checked in Admin->Rooms->Room->Room
>>>>>> files)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
>>>>>> So I see no area of improvement here
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker
>>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You delete files from the WB then
>>>>>> they reappear. I think this is the
>>>>>> confusing aspect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you please program it so that you
>>>>>> click delete then they are deleted and
>>>>>> do not reappear on the WB . Otherwise it
>>>>>> is not deleting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All objects including manually added
>>>>>>> files and drawings are being removed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> THEN is there were room files they will
>>>>>>> be loaded
>>>>>>> So WB will look like on first enter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel
>>>>>>> Baker <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The clean WB button does not
>>>>>>> clean the files Maxim. Nothing is
>>>>>>> removed from the WB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim
>>>>>>> Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Room files" is sort of
>>>>>>>> "auto-preload" list for the room
>>>>>>>> So if room is accesses for the
>>>>>>>> first time: these files will be
>>>>>>>> loaded to the room
>>>>>>>> On the second enter all WB items
>>>>>>>> including files and drawings will
>>>>>>>> remain "as-is"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can use "Clean WB" button this
>>>>>>>> way all existing room items
>>>>>>>> (including drawings and manually
>>>>>>>> added items) will be wiped out
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04,
>>>>>>>> Daniel Baker
>>>>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry for the repetition but
>>>>>>>> the logic is difficult to
>>>>>>>> grasp.
>>>>>>>> All I want to do is delete
>>>>>>>> a file from the WB in real
>>>>>>>> time. I can not see how the
>>>>>>>> logic below achieves that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You say it deletes file from
>>>>>>>> auto-pre-load. How does that
>>>>>>>> work?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim
>>>>>>>> Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wrote you many, many times:
>>>>>>>>> delete checkbox only deletes
>>>>>>>>> files from "auto pre-load"
>>>>>>>>> Same way: you can manually
>>>>>>>>> draw something on WB, manually
>>>>>>>>> drop some files to WB
>>>>>>>>> Exit and enter the room and
>>>>>>>>> you will see same WB (with
>>>>>>>>> drawing and files)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You need to "wipe out" the
>>>>>>>>> whole WB
>>>>>>>>> Then it will be re-created
>>>>>>>>> with new files
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43,
>>>>>>>>> Daniel Baker
>>>>>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok so it is possible to
>>>>>>>>> delete files but the
>>>>>>>>> process is rather
>>>>>>>>> convoluted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It makes me think
>>>>>>>>> 'remove' files check
>>>>>>>>> box should have
>>>>>>>>> beside it a button that
>>>>>>>>> says 'delete files and
>>>>>>>>> clean WB.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I created a video of the
>>>>>>>>> process of deleting
>>>>>>>>> files. It seems
>>>>>>>>> complicated. You can view
>>>>>>>>> it in VLC media player.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM,
>>>>>>>>> Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > Sorry to be harping on
>>>>>>>>> about this but I can't
>>>>>>>>> get this Real
>>>>>>>>> > Time deletion to work
>>>>>>>>> in OM 5.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Can you please advise
>>>>>>>>> how to make the delete
>>>>>>>>> functionality work.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Dan
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Daniel,
Moodle plugin is written to perform Admin actions: prepare the room for the
lesson
And works as designed
Currently there is no APi function to "would allow the teacher to
interact with the API and perform the same results as Clean Wb in OM
UI."
let's imaging such function exists
Which WB in room should be cleaned in case there are 20 of them in the
particular room?
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 10:53, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
wrote:
> The teacher could use the OM UI, but that would not be ideal
> from an API interaction perspective. Let me show you our interface
> that hooks into your APIs:
>
>
>
>
> You see that red button. That, we was hoping, would allow the
> teacher to interact with the API and perform the same results as
> Clean Wb in OM UI.
>
> I personally don't think this is requesting too much from your software.
>
>
> On 10/16/2019 10:44 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> Np teacher can use regular OM UI after he/she enters the room
>
> Moodle plugin perform "admin" tasks
> Only admin in om can change room type/name
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 10:40 Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
> wrote:
>
>> Well the plugin is for the teacher to upload and delete files
>> to OM . You do not have to be an admin to do that in moodle with this
>> plugin.
>>
>>
>> The teacher does not want to see a reappearance of files.
>>
>>
>> Lets take your analogy of a lecture room :
>>
>>
>> Teacher draws on WB . Teacher makes mistake. Teacher wants to
>> delete mistake. Teacher presses ' clean wb'. Teacher should now see
>> a clean WB -no objects.
>>
>>
>> The teacher does not want to see the same mistake reappear.
>> Currently when clicking clean wb nothing is removed from the WB and
>> the mistake reappears.
>>
>> .
>>
>> Surely you can see the benefit of removing the mistake in real time.
>> Just like how it does in OM currently. The API should be the same
>> as OM.
>>
>>
>> Currently the teacher would be in an infinite loop trying to remove
>> the mistake and seeing it reappear. :-(
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/16/2019 9:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> No, it shouldn't be designed the same as clean wb in OM.
>> Because the Moodle plugin is designed for Admins: same way as OM->Admin
>> is designed for admins
>>
>> I'll try to describe this one more time using analog in the real world
>>
>> Imaging following situation
>> Early morning in some University (let it be Sorbonne for ex.)
>> The auditory is clean and empty
>> Only some "Initial" materials are being set up
>>
>> Then the first class ends
>> The Black board is all written
>> All slides are at some non-initial positions etc.
>>
>> Then next class should have same lecture ...
>>
>> And the teacher now have magic button: "rewing the auditory status to the
>> initial position" - and it works exactly like this
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:25, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Clean wb in moodle plugin should be designed the same as clean
>>> wb in OM. Yes it should remove files and not reappear.
>>>
>>> If teacher wants to remove files it should be the same as
>>> removing files in OM. Moderators are able to remove files.
>>>
>>>
>>> That is consistent and clear logic.Can you do that or shall I
>>> try ?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/15/2019 10:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> Daniel,
>>>
>>> Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading
>>> Add-remove room files has nothing in common with manual add/remove files
>>> to the room
>>> This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in Admin->Conference
>>> rooms->Room->Room files
>>>
>>> Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in common with Room clean
>>> single WB
>>> It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all white-boards with all contents
>>> is dropped
>>> Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room files and its
>>> white-board indices ....
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think if the teacher presses the button 'Clear WB' we
>>>> should honor that request with deleting the files on the WB. The
>>>> files should not reappear on the WB.
>>>>
>>>> If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file then it should be
>>>> removed from the file list.
>>>>
>>>> I have included a picture that shows what should be the
>>>> equivalent logic in OM and the Moodle plugin.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>> It is by design
>>>> Room files were designed to be loaded at the time the room being
>>>> accessed the first time
>>>>
>>>> The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be able to check the
>>>> room after the lesson is over ....
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Deleting files from the list of room files does not remove the
>>>>> files from the WB in real time though , does it ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No,
>>>>>
>>>>> File are deleted from the list of room files (can be checked in
>>>>> Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
>>>>>
>>>>> After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
>>>>> So I see no area of improvement here
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker <
>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You delete files from the WB then they reappear. I think
>>>>>> this is the confusing aspect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you please program it so that you click delete then they
>>>>>> are deleted and do not reappear on the WB . Otherwise it is not
>>>>>> deleting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All objects including manually added files and drawings are being
>>>>>> removed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> THEN is there were room files they will be loaded
>>>>>> So WB will look like on first enter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker <
>>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The clean WB button does not clean the files Maxim.
>>>>>>> Nothing is removed from the WB.
>>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for the room
>>>>>>> So if room is accesses for the first time: these files will be
>>>>>>> loaded to the room
>>>>>>> On the second enter all WB items including files and drawings will
>>>>>>> remain "as-is"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all existing room items
>>>>>>> (including drawings and manually added items) will be wiped out
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker <
>>>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry for the repetition but the logic is difficult to
>>>>>>>> grasp.
>>>>>>>> All I want to do is delete a file from the WB in real
>>>>>>>> time. I can not see how the logic below achieves that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load. How does
>>>>>>>> that work?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only deletes files
>>>>>>>> from "auto pre-load"
>>>>>>>> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB, manually drop some
>>>>>>>> files to WB
>>>>>>>> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with drawing and
>>>>>>>> files)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>>>>>>>> Then it will be re-created with new files
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker <
>>>>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the process is
>>>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>>>> convoluted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It makes me think 'remove' files check box should
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> beside it a button that says 'delete files and clean WB.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I created a video of the process of deleting files. It seems
>>>>>>>>> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this
>>>>>>>>> Real
>>>>>>>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Can you please advise how to make the delete functionality
>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Dan
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
The teacher could use the OM UI, but that would not be ideal
from an API interaction perspective. Let me show you our interface
that hooks into your APIs:
You see that red button. That, we was hoping, would allow the
teacher to interact with the API and perform the same results as
Clean Wb in OM UI.
I personally don't think this is requesting too much from your software.
On 10/16/2019 10:44 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> Np teacher can use regular OM UI after he/she enters the room
>
> Moodle plugin perform "admin" tasks
> Only admin in om can change room type/name
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 10:40 Daniel Baker <info@collisiondetection.biz
> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>
> Well the plugin is for the teacher to upload and delete
> files to OM . You do not have to be an admin to do that in
> moodle with this plugin.
>
>
> The teacher does not want to see a reappearance of files.
>
>
> Lets take your analogy of a lecture room :
>
>
> Teacher draws on WB . Teacher makes mistake. Teacher
> wants to delete mistake. Teacher presses ' clean wb'.
> Teacher should now see a clean WB -no objects.
>
>
> The teacher does not want to see the same mistake reappear.
> Currently when clicking clean wb nothing is removed from the
> WB and the mistake reappears.
>
> .
>
> Surely you can see the benefit of removing the mistake in real
> time. Just like how it does in OM currently. The API should
> be the same as OM.
>
>
> Currently the teacher would be in an infinite loop trying to
> remove the mistake and seeing it reappear. :-(
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/16/2019 9:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> No, it shouldn't be designed the same as clean wb in OM.
>> Because the Moodle plugin is designed for Admins: same way as
>> OM->Admin is designed for admins
>>
>> I'll try to describe this one more time using analog in the real
>> world
>>
>> Imaging following situation
>> Early morning in some University (let it be Sorbonne for ex.)
>> The auditory is clean and empty
>> Only some "Initial" materials are being set up
>>
>> Then the first class ends
>> The Black board is all written
>> All slides are at some non-initial positions etc.
>>
>> Then next class should have same lecture ...
>>
>> And the teacher now have magic button: "rewing the auditory
>> status to the initial position" - and it works exactly like this
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:25, Daniel Baker
>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>
>> Clean wb in moodle plugin should be designed the same
>> as clean wb in OM. Yes it should remove files and
>> not reappear.
>>
>> If teacher wants to remove files it should be the same
>> as removing files in OM. Moderators are able to remove files.
>>
>>
>> That is consistent and clear logic.Can you do that or
>> shall I try ?
>>
>>
>> On 10/15/2019 10:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>> Daniel,
>>>
>>> Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading
>>> Add-remove room files has nothing in common with manual
>>> add/remove files to the room
>>> This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in
>>> Admin->Conference rooms->Room->Room files
>>>
>>> Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in common with
>>> Room clean single WB
>>> It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all white-boards with
>>> all contents is dropped
>>> Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room files and
>>> its white-board indices ....
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker
>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I think if the teacher presses the button 'Clear
>>> WB' we should honor that request with deleting
>>> the files on the WB. The files should not reappear
>>> on the WB.
>>>
>>> If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file then it
>>> should be removed from the file list.
>>>
>>> I have included a picture that shows what should
>>> be the equivalent logic in OM and the Moodle plugin.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>> Yes
>>>> It is by design
>>>> Room files were designed to be loaded at the time the
>>>> room being accessed the first time
>>>>
>>>> The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be able
>>>> to check the room after the lesson is over ....
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker
>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Deleting files from the list of room files does
>>>> not remove the files from the WB in real time
>>>> though , does it ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>> No,
>>>>>
>>>>> File are deleted from the list of room files (can
>>>>> be checked in Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
>>>>>
>>>>> After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
>>>>> So I see no area of improvement here
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker
>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You delete files from the WB then they
>>>>> reappear. I think this is the confusing
>>>>> aspect.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you please program it so that you click
>>>>> delete then they are deleted and do not
>>>>> reappear on the WB . Otherwise it is not
>>>>> deleting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All objects including manually added files
>>>>>> and drawings are being removed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> THEN is there were room files they will be
>>>>>> loaded
>>>>>> So WB will look like on first enter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker
>>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The clean WB button does not clean the
>>>>>> files Maxim. Nothing is removed from
>>>>>> the WB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload"
>>>>>>> list for the room
>>>>>>> So if room is accesses for the first
>>>>>>> time: these files will be loaded to the room
>>>>>>> On the second enter all WB items
>>>>>>> including files and drawings will remain
>>>>>>> "as-is"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can use "Clean WB" button this way
>>>>>>> all existing room items (including
>>>>>>> drawings and manually added items) will
>>>>>>> be wiped out
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel
>>>>>>> Baker <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry for the repetition but the
>>>>>>> logic is difficult to grasp.
>>>>>>> All I want to do is delete a
>>>>>>> file from the WB in real time. I
>>>>>>> can not see how the logic below
>>>>>>> achieves that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You say it deletes file from
>>>>>>> auto-pre-load. How does that work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim
>>>>>>> Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wrote you many, many times:
>>>>>>>> delete checkbox only deletes files
>>>>>>>> from "auto pre-load"
>>>>>>>> Same way: you can manually draw
>>>>>>>> something on WB, manually drop some
>>>>>>>> files to WB
>>>>>>>> Exit and enter the room and you
>>>>>>>> will see same WB (with drawing and
>>>>>>>> files)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>>>>>>>> Then it will be re-created with new
>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43,
>>>>>>>> Daniel Baker
>>>>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok so it is possible to
>>>>>>>> delete files but the process
>>>>>>>> is rather
>>>>>>>> convoluted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It makes me think 'remove'
>>>>>>>> files check box should have
>>>>>>>> beside it a button that
>>>>>>>> says 'delete files and clean WB.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I created a video of the
>>>>>>>> process of deleting files. It
>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>> complicated. You can view it
>>>>>>>> in VLC media player.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel
>>>>>>>> Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Sorry to be harping on about
>>>>>>>> this but I can't get this Real
>>>>>>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Can you please advise how
>>>>>>>> to make the delete
>>>>>>>> functionality work.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Dan
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Np teacher can use regular OM UI after he/she enters the room
Moodle plugin perform "admin" tasks
Only admin in om can change room type/name
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 10:40 Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
wrote:
> Well the plugin is for the teacher to upload and delete files to
> OM . You do not have to be an admin to do that in moodle with this
> plugin.
>
>
> The teacher does not want to see a reappearance of files.
>
>
> Lets take your analogy of a lecture room :
>
>
> Teacher draws on WB . Teacher makes mistake. Teacher wants to
> delete mistake. Teacher presses ' clean wb'. Teacher should now see
> a clean WB -no objects.
>
>
> The teacher does not want to see the same mistake reappear. Currently
> when clicking clean wb nothing is removed from the WB and the
> mistake reappears.
>
> .
>
> Surely you can see the benefit of removing the mistake in real time.
> Just like how it does in OM currently. The API should be the same
> as OM.
>
>
> Currently the teacher would be in an infinite loop trying to remove
> the mistake and seeing it reappear. :-(
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/16/2019 9:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> No, it shouldn't be designed the same as clean wb in OM.
> Because the Moodle plugin is designed for Admins: same way as OM->Admin is
> designed for admins
>
> I'll try to describe this one more time using analog in the real world
>
> Imaging following situation
> Early morning in some University (let it be Sorbonne for ex.)
> The auditory is clean and empty
> Only some "Initial" materials are being set up
>
> Then the first class ends
> The Black board is all written
> All slides are at some non-initial positions etc.
>
> Then next class should have same lecture ...
>
> And the teacher now have magic button: "rewing the auditory status to the
> initial position" - and it works exactly like this
>
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:25, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
> wrote:
>
>> Clean wb in moodle plugin should be designed the same as clean
>> wb in OM. Yes it should remove files and not reappear.
>>
>> If teacher wants to remove files it should be the same as
>> removing files in OM. Moderators are able to remove files.
>>
>>
>> That is consistent and clear logic.Can you do that or shall I
>> try ?
>>
>>
>> On 10/15/2019 10:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> Daniel,
>>
>> Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading
>> Add-remove room files has nothing in common with manual add/remove files
>> to the room
>> This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in Admin->Conference
>> rooms->Room->Room files
>>
>> Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in common with Room clean
>> single WB
>> It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all white-boards with all contents
>> is dropped
>> Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room files and its
>> white-board indices ....
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think if the teacher presses the button 'Clear WB' we
>>> should honor that request with deleting the files on the WB. The
>>> files should not reappear on the WB.
>>>
>>> If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file then it should be
>>> removed from the file list.
>>>
>>> I have included a picture that shows what should be the
>>> equivalent logic in OM and the Moodle plugin.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes
>>> It is by design
>>> Room files were designed to be loaded at the time the room being
>>> accessed the first time
>>>
>>> The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be able to check the room
>>> after the lesson is over ....
>>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Deleting files from the list of room files does not remove the files
>>>> from the WB in real time though , does it ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No,
>>>>
>>>> File are deleted from the list of room files (can be checked in
>>>> Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
>>>>
>>>> After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
>>>> So I see no area of improvement here
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You delete files from the WB then they reappear. I think this
>>>>> is the confusing aspect.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you please program it so that you click delete then they
>>>>> are deleted and do not reappear on the WB . Otherwise it is not
>>>>> deleting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>>>>>
>>>>> All objects including manually added files and drawings are being
>>>>> removed
>>>>>
>>>>> THEN is there were room files they will be loaded
>>>>> So WB will look like on first enter
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker <
>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The clean WB button does not clean the files Maxim. Nothing
>>>>>> is removed from the WB.
>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for the room
>>>>>> So if room is accesses for the first time: these files will be loaded
>>>>>> to the room
>>>>>> On the second enter all WB items including files and drawings will
>>>>>> remain "as-is"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all existing room items
>>>>>> (including drawings and manually added items) will be wiped out
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker <
>>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry for the repetition but the logic is difficult to
>>>>>>> grasp.
>>>>>>> All I want to do is delete a file from the WB in real
>>>>>>> time. I can not see how the logic below achieves that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load. How does
>>>>>>> that work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only deletes files
>>>>>>> from "auto pre-load"
>>>>>>> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB, manually drop some
>>>>>>> files to WB
>>>>>>> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with drawing and
>>>>>>> files)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>>>>>>> Then it will be re-created with new files
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker <
>>>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the process is
>>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>>> convoluted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It makes me think 'remove' files check box should
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> beside it a button that says 'delete files and clean WB.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I created a video of the process of deleting files. It seems
>>>>>>>> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this
>>>>>>>> Real
>>>>>>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Can you please advise how to make the delete functionality
>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Dan
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
Well the plugin is for the teacher to upload and delete files
to OM . You do not have to be an admin to do that in moodle with
this plugin.
The teacher does not want to see a reappearance of files.
Lets take your analogy of a lecture room :
Teacher draws on WB . Teacher makes mistake. Teacher wants to
delete mistake. Teacher presses ' clean wb'. Teacher should now
see a clean WB -no objects.
The teacher does not want to see the same mistake reappear.
Currently when clicking clean wb nothing is removed from the WB
and the mistake reappears.
.
Surely you can see the benefit of removing the mistake in real time.
Just like how it does in OM currently. The API should be the same
as OM.
Currently the teacher would be in an infinite loop trying to
remove the mistake and seeing it reappear. :-(
On 10/16/2019 9:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> Hello Daniel,
>
> No, it shouldn't be designed the same as clean wb in OM.
> Because the Moodle plugin is designed for Admins: same way as
> OM->Admin is designed for admins
>
> I'll try to describe this one more time using analog in the real world
>
> Imaging following situation
> Early morning in some University (let it be Sorbonne for ex.)
> The auditory is clean and empty
> Only some "Initial" materials are being set up
>
> Then the first class ends
> The Black board is all written
> All slides are at some non-initial positions etc.
>
> Then next class should have same lecture ...
>
> And the teacher now have magic button: "rewing the auditory status to
> the initial position" - and it works exactly like this
>
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:25, Daniel Baker
> <info@collisiondetection.biz <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>
> Clean wb in moodle plugin should be designed the same as
> clean wb in OM. Yes it should remove files and not reappear.
>
> If teacher wants to remove files it should be the same
> as removing files in OM. Moderators are able to remove files.
>
>
> That is consistent and clear logic.Can you do that or shall
> I try ?
>
>
> On 10/15/2019 10:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>> Daniel,
>>
>> Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading
>> Add-remove room files has nothing in common with manual
>> add/remove files to the room
>> This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in
>> Admin->Conference rooms->Room->Room files
>>
>> Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in common with Room
>> clean single WB
>> It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all white-boards with all
>> contents is dropped
>> Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room files and its
>> white-board indices ....
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker
>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I think if the teacher presses the button 'Clear WB'
>> we should honor that request with deleting the files
>> on the WB. The files should not reappear on the WB.
>>
>> If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file then it should
>> be removed from the file list.
>>
>> I have included a picture that shows what should be
>> the equivalent logic in OM and the Moodle plugin.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>> Yes
>>> It is by design
>>> Room files were designed to be loaded at the time the room
>>> being accessed the first time
>>>
>>> The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be able to
>>> check the room after the lesson is over ....
>>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker
>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Deleting files from the list of room files does not
>>> remove the files from the WB in real time though ,
>>> does it ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>> No,
>>>>
>>>> File are deleted from the list of room files (can be
>>>> checked in Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
>>>>
>>>> After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
>>>> So I see no area of improvement here
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker
>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You delete files from the WB then they
>>>> reappear. I think this is the confusing aspect.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you please program it so that you click
>>>> delete then they are deleted and do not
>>>> reappear on the WB . Otherwise it is not deleting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>>>>>
>>>>> All objects including manually added files and
>>>>> drawings are being removed
>>>>>
>>>>> THEN is there were room files they will be loaded
>>>>> So WB will look like on first enter
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker
>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The clean WB button does not clean the
>>>>> files Maxim. Nothing is removed from the WB.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list
>>>>>> for the room
>>>>>> So if room is accesses for the first time:
>>>>>> these files will be loaded to the room
>>>>>> On the second enter all WB items including
>>>>>> files and drawings will remain "as-is"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all
>>>>>> existing room items (including drawings and
>>>>>> manually added items) will be wiped out
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker
>>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for the repetition but the
>>>>>> logic is difficult to grasp.
>>>>>> All I want to do is delete a file
>>>>>> from the WB in real time. I can not
>>>>>> see how the logic below achieves that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You say it deletes file from
>>>>>> auto-pre-load. How does that work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wrote you many, many times: delete
>>>>>>> checkbox only deletes files from "auto
>>>>>>> pre-load"
>>>>>>> Same way: you can manually draw
>>>>>>> something on WB, manually drop some
>>>>>>> files to WB
>>>>>>> Exit and enter the room and you will see
>>>>>>> same WB (with drawing and files)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>>>>>>> Then it will be re-created with new files
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel
>>>>>>> Baker <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok so it is possible to delete
>>>>>>> files but the process is rather
>>>>>>> convoluted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It makes me think 'remove' files
>>>>>>> check box should have
>>>>>>> beside it a button that says
>>>>>>> 'delete files and clean WB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I created a video of the process of
>>>>>>> deleting files. It seems
>>>>>>> complicated. You can view it in VLC
>>>>>>> media player.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Sorry to be harping on about this
>>>>>>> but I can't get this Real
>>>>>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Can you please advise how to
>>>>>>> make the delete functionality work.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Dan
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Daniel,
No, it shouldn't be designed the same as clean wb in OM.
Because the Moodle plugin is designed for Admins: same way as OM->Admin is
designed for admins
I'll try to describe this one more time using analog in the real world
Imaging following situation
Early morning in some University (let it be Sorbonne for ex.)
The auditory is clean and empty
Only some "Initial" materials are being set up
Then the first class ends
The Black board is all written
All slides are at some non-initial positions etc.
Then next class should have same lecture ...
And the teacher now have magic button: "rewing the auditory status to the
initial position" - and it works exactly like this
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:25, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
wrote:
> Clean wb in moodle plugin should be designed the same as clean
> wb in OM. Yes it should remove files and not reappear.
>
> If teacher wants to remove files it should be the same as
> removing files in OM. Moderators are able to remove files.
>
>
> That is consistent and clear logic.Can you do that or shall I try
> ?
>
>
> On 10/15/2019 10:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> Daniel,
>
> Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading
> Add-remove room files has nothing in common with manual add/remove files
> to the room
> This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in Admin->Conference
> rooms->Room->Room files
>
> Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in common with Room clean
> single WB
> It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all white-boards with all contents
> is dropped
> Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room files and its white-board
> indices ....
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I think if the teacher presses the button 'Clear WB' we
>> should honor that request with deleting the files on the WB. The
>> files should not reappear on the WB.
>>
>> If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file then it should be removed
>> from the file list.
>>
>> I have included a picture that shows what should be the
>> equivalent logic in OM and the Moodle plugin.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> Yes
>> It is by design
>> Room files were designed to be loaded at the time the room being accessed
>> the first time
>>
>> The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be able to check the room
>> after the lesson is over ....
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Deleting files from the list of room files does not remove the files
>>> from the WB in real time though , does it ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> No,
>>>
>>> File are deleted from the list of room files (can be checked in
>>> Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
>>>
>>> After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
>>> So I see no area of improvement here
>>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You delete files from the WB then they reappear. I think this
>>>> is the confusing aspect.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you please program it so that you click delete then they are
>>>> deleted and do not reappear on the WB . Otherwise it is not deleting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>>>>
>>>> All objects including manually added files and drawings are being
>>>> removed
>>>>
>>>> THEN is there were room files they will be loaded
>>>> So WB will look like on first enter
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The clean WB button does not clean the files Maxim. Nothing
>>>>> is removed from the WB.
>>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>
>>>>> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for the room
>>>>> So if room is accesses for the first time: these files will be loaded
>>>>> to the room
>>>>> On the second enter all WB items including files and drawings will
>>>>> remain "as-is"
>>>>>
>>>>> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all existing room items
>>>>> (including drawings and manually added items) will be wiped out
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker <
>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for the repetition but the logic is difficult to
>>>>>> grasp.
>>>>>> All I want to do is delete a file from the WB in real
>>>>>> time. I can not see how the logic below achieves that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load. How does that
>>>>>> work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only deletes files from
>>>>>> "auto pre-load"
>>>>>> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB, manually drop some
>>>>>> files to WB
>>>>>> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with drawing and
>>>>>> files)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>>>>>> Then it will be re-created with new files
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker <
>>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the process is
>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>> convoluted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It makes me think 'remove' files check box should
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> beside it a button that says 'delete files and clean WB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I created a video of the process of deleting files. It seems
>>>>>>> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this Real
>>>>>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Can you please advise how to make the delete functionality
>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Dan
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
Clean wb in moodle plugin should be designed the same as clean
wb in OM. Yes it should remove files and not reappear.
If teacher wants to remove files it should be the same as
removing files in OM. Moderators are able to remove files.
That is consistent and clear logic.Can you do that or shall I try ?
On 10/15/2019 10:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading
> Add-remove room files has nothing in common with manual add/remove
> files to the room
> This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in Admin->Conference
> rooms->Room->Room files
>
> Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in common with Room clean
> single WB
> It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all white-boards with all
> contents is dropped
> Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room files and its
> white-board indices ....
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker
> <info@collisiondetection.biz <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>
>
> I think if the teacher presses the button 'Clear WB' we
> should honor that request with deleting the files on the
> WB. The files should not reappear on the WB.
>
> If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file then it should be
> removed from the file list.
>
> I have included a picture that shows what should be the
> equivalent logic in OM and the Moodle plugin.
>
>
>
> On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>> Yes
>> It is by design
>> Room files were designed to be loaded at the time the room being
>> accessed the first time
>>
>> The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be able to check
>> the room after the lesson is over ....
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker
>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>
>> Deleting files from the list of room files does not remove
>> the files from the WB in real time though , does it ?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>> No,
>>>
>>> File are deleted from the list of room files (can be checked
>>> in Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
>>>
>>> After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
>>> So I see no area of improvement here
>>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker
>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You delete files from the WB then they reappear. I
>>> think this is the confusing aspect.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you please program it so that you click delete
>>> then they are deleted and do not reappear on the WB
>>> . Otherwise it is not deleting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>>>>
>>>> All objects including manually added files and drawings
>>>> are being removed
>>>>
>>>> THEN is there were room files they will be loaded
>>>> So WB will look like on first enter
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker
>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The clean WB button does not clean the files
>>>> Maxim. Nothing is removed from the WB.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>
>>>>> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for
>>>>> the room
>>>>> So if room is accesses for the first time: these
>>>>> files will be loaded to the room
>>>>> On the second enter all WB items including files
>>>>> and drawings will remain "as-is"
>>>>>
>>>>> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all
>>>>> existing room items (including drawings and
>>>>> manually added items) will be wiped out
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker
>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for the repetition but the logic
>>>>> is difficult to grasp.
>>>>> All I want to do is delete a file from
>>>>> the WB in real time. I can not see how
>>>>> the logic below achieves that.
>>>>>
>>>>> You say it deletes file from
>>>>> auto-pre-load. How does that work?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox
>>>>>> only deletes files from "auto pre-load"
>>>>>> Same way: you can manually draw something on
>>>>>> WB, manually drop some files to WB
>>>>>> Exit and enter the room and you will see same
>>>>>> WB (with drawing and files)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>>>>>> Then it will be re-created with new files
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker
>>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok so it is possible to delete
>>>>>> files but the process is rather
>>>>>> convoluted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It makes me think 'remove' files
>>>>>> check box should have
>>>>>> beside it a button that says 'delete
>>>>>> files and clean WB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created a video of the process of
>>>>>> deleting files. It seems
>>>>>> complicated. You can view it in VLC
>>>>>> media player.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but
>>>>>> I can't get this Real
>>>>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Can you please advise how to make
>>>>>> the delete functionality work.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Dan
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Daniel,
Unfortunately your screen-shots are misleading
Add-remove room files has nothing in common with manual add/remove files to
the room
This is ADMIN function, in OM UI it is located in Admin->Conference
rooms->Room->Room files
Same way API function "Clean WB" has nothing in common with Room clean
single WB
It wipes all WBs in room (completely) all white-boards with all contents is
dropped
Then new WB(s) is(are) created based on the room files and its white-board
indices ....
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:05, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
wrote:
>
> I think if the teacher presses the button 'Clear WB' we should
> honor that request with deleting the files on the WB. The files
> should not reappear on the WB.
>
> If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file then it should be removed
> from the file list.
>
> I have included a picture that shows what should be the
> equivalent logic in OM and the Moodle plugin.
>
>
>
> On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> Yes
> It is by design
> Room files were designed to be loaded at the time the room being accessed
> the first time
>
> The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be able to check the room
> after the lesson is over ....
>
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
> wrote:
>
>> Deleting files from the list of room files does not remove the files
>> from the WB in real time though , does it ?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> No,
>>
>> File are deleted from the list of room files (can be checked in
>> Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
>>
>> After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
>> So I see no area of improvement here
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You delete files from the WB then they reappear. I think this
>>> is the confusing aspect.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you please program it so that you click delete then they are
>>> deleted and do not reappear on the WB . Otherwise it is not deleting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>>>
>>> All objects including manually added files and drawings are being removed
>>>
>>> THEN is there were room files they will be loaded
>>> So WB will look like on first enter
>>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The clean WB button does not clean the files Maxim. Nothing
>>>> is removed from the WB.
>>>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for the room
>>>> So if room is accesses for the first time: these files will be loaded
>>>> to the room
>>>> On the second enter all WB items including files and drawings will
>>>> remain "as-is"
>>>>
>>>> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all existing room items
>>>> (including drawings and manually added items) will be wiped out
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for the repetition but the logic is difficult to
>>>>> grasp.
>>>>> All I want to do is delete a file from the WB in real time.
>>>>> I can not see how the logic below achieves that.
>>>>>
>>>>> You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load. How does that
>>>>> work?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>
>>>>> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only deletes files from
>>>>> "auto pre-load"
>>>>> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB, manually drop some
>>>>> files to WB
>>>>> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with drawing and
>>>>> files)
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>>>>> Then it will be re-created with new files
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker <
>>>>> info@collisiondetection.biz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the process is rather
>>>>>> convoluted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It makes me think 'remove' files check box should have
>>>>>> beside it a button that says 'delete files and clean WB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created a video of the process of deleting files. It seems
>>>>>> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this Real
>>>>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Can you please advise how to make the delete functionality
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Dan
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
I think if the teacher presses the button 'Clear WB' we
should honor that request with deleting the files on the WB.
The files should not reappear on the WB.
If the teacher clicks 'Remove ' file then it should be removed
from the file list.
I have included a picture that shows what should be the
equivalent logic in OM and the Moodle plugin.
On 10/14/2019 9:49 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> Yes
> It is by design
> Room files were designed to be loaded at the time the room being
> accessed the first time
>
> The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be able to check the
> room after the lesson is over ....
>
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker
> <info@collisiondetection.biz <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>
> Deleting files from the list of room files does not remove the
> files from the WB in real time though , does it ?
>
>
>
> On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>> No,
>>
>> File are deleted from the list of room files (can be checked in
>> Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
>>
>> After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
>> So I see no area of improvement here
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker
>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>
>> You delete files from the WB then they reappear. I
>> think this is the confusing aspect.
>>
>>
>> Can you please program it so that you click delete then
>> they are deleted and do not reappear on the WB .
>> Otherwise it is not deleting.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>>>
>>> All objects including manually added files and drawings are
>>> being removed
>>>
>>> THEN is there were room files they will be loaded
>>> So WB will look like on first enter
>>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker
>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The clean WB button does not clean the files
>>> Maxim. Nothing is removed from the WB.
>>>
>>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>> Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for the room
>>>> So if room is accesses for the first time: these files
>>>> will be loaded to the room
>>>> On the second enter all WB items including files and
>>>> drawings will remain "as-is"
>>>>
>>>> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all existing
>>>> room items (including drawings and manually added
>>>> items) will be wiped out
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker
>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the repetition but the logic is
>>>> difficult to grasp.
>>>> All I want to do is delete a file from the
>>>> WB in real time. I can not see how the logic
>>>> below achieves that.
>>>>
>>>> You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load.
>>>> How does that work?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>
>>>>> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only
>>>>> deletes files from "auto pre-load"
>>>>> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB,
>>>>> manually drop some files to WB
>>>>> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB
>>>>> (with drawing and files)
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>>>>> Then it will be re-created with new files
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker
>>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok so it is possible to delete files but
>>>>> the process is rather
>>>>> convoluted.
>>>>>
>>>>> It makes me think 'remove' files check
>>>>> box should have
>>>>> beside it a button that says 'delete
>>>>> files and clean WB.
>>>>>
>>>>> I created a video of the process of deleting
>>>>> files. It seems
>>>>> complicated. You can view it in VLC media
>>>>> player.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I
>>>>> can't get this Real
>>>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Can you please advise how to make the
>>>>> delete functionality work.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Dan
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Yes
It is by design
Room files were designed to be loaded at the time the room being accessed
the first time
The main idea is: the teacher/organizer should be able to check the room
after the lesson is over ....
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
wrote:
> Deleting files from the list of room files does not remove the files
> from the WB in real time though , does it ?
>
>
>
> On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> No,
>
> File are deleted from the list of room files (can be checked in
> Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
>
> After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
> So I see no area of improvement here
>
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
> wrote:
>
>> You delete files from the WB then they reappear. I think this
>> is the confusing aspect.
>>
>>
>> Can you please program it so that you click delete then they are
>> deleted and do not reappear on the WB . Otherwise it is not deleting.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Dan
>> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>>
>> All objects including manually added files and drawings are being removed
>>
>> THEN is there were room files they will be loaded
>> So WB will look like on first enter
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The clean WB button does not clean the files Maxim. Nothing is
>>> removed from the WB.
>>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> Daniel,
>>>
>>> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for the room
>>> So if room is accesses for the first time: these files will be loaded to
>>> the room
>>> On the second enter all WB items including files and drawings will
>>> remain "as-is"
>>>
>>> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all existing room items
>>> (including drawings and manually added items) will be wiped out
>>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry for the repetition but the logic is difficult to grasp.
>>>> All I want to do is delete a file from the WB in real time.
>>>> I can not see how the logic below achieves that.
>>>>
>>>> You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load. How does that
>>>> work?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only deletes files from
>>>> "auto pre-load"
>>>> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB, manually drop some
>>>> files to WB
>>>> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with drawing and
>>>> files)
>>>>
>>>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>>>> Then it will be re-created with new files
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the process is rather
>>>>> convoluted.
>>>>>
>>>>> It makes me think 'remove' files check box should have
>>>>> beside it a button that says 'delete files and clean WB.
>>>>>
>>>>> I created a video of the process of deleting files. It seems
>>>>> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this Real
>>>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Can you please advise how to make the delete functionality
>>>>> work.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Dan
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
Deleting files from the list of room files does not remove the files
from the WB in real time though , does it ?
On 10/14/2019 3:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> No,
>
> File are deleted from the list of room files (can be checked in
> Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
>
> After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
> So I see no area of improvement here
>
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker
> <info@collisiondetection.biz <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>
> You delete files from the WB then they reappear. I think
> this is the confusing aspect.
>
>
> Can you please program it so that you click delete then they
> are deleted and do not reappear on the WB . Otherwise it is
> not deleting.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Dan
>
> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>>
>> All objects including manually added files and drawings are being
>> removed
>>
>> THEN is there were room files they will be loaded
>> So WB will look like on first enter
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker
>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>
>> The clean WB button does not clean the files Maxim.
>> Nothing is removed from the WB.
>>
>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>> Daniel,
>>>
>>> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for the room
>>> So if room is accesses for the first time: these files will
>>> be loaded to the room
>>> On the second enter all WB items including files and
>>> drawings will remain "as-is"
>>>
>>> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all existing room
>>> items (including drawings and manually added items) will be
>>> wiped out
>>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker
>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry for the repetition but the logic is
>>> difficult to grasp.
>>> All I want to do is delete a file from the WB
>>> in real time. I can not see how the logic below
>>> achieves that.
>>>
>>> You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load. How
>>> does that work?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>> Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only
>>>> deletes files from "auto pre-load"
>>>> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB,
>>>> manually drop some files to WB
>>>> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with
>>>> drawing and files)
>>>>
>>>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>>>> Then it will be re-created with new files
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker
>>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the
>>>> process is rather
>>>> convoluted.
>>>>
>>>> It makes me think 'remove' files check
>>>> box should have
>>>> beside it a button that says 'delete files
>>>> and clean WB.
>>>>
>>>> I created a video of the process of deleting
>>>> files. It seems
>>>> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
>>>>
>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I
>>>> can't get this Real
>>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>>>> >
>>>> > Can you please advise how to make the
>>>> delete functionality work.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> >
>>>> > Dan
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
No,
File are deleted from the list of room files (can be checked in
Admin->Rooms->Room->Room files)
After files are deleted they with NOT re-appear
So I see no area of improvement here
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
wrote:
> You delete files from the WB then they reappear. I think this is
> the confusing aspect.
>
>
> Can you please program it so that you click delete then they are
> deleted and do not reappear on the WB . Otherwise it is not deleting.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Dan
> On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>
> All objects including manually added files and drawings are being removed
>
> THEN is there were room files they will be loaded
> So WB will look like on first enter
>
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
> wrote:
>
>> The clean WB button does not clean the files Maxim. Nothing is
>> removed from the WB.
>> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> Daniel,
>>
>> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for the room
>> So if room is accesses for the first time: these files will be loaded to
>> the room
>> On the second enter all WB items including files and drawings will remain
>> "as-is"
>>
>> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all existing room items (including
>> drawings and manually added items) will be wiped out
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry for the repetition but the logic is difficult to grasp.
>>> All I want to do is delete a file from the WB in real time. I
>>> can not see how the logic below achieves that.
>>>
>>> You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load. How does that
>>> work?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> Daniel,
>>>
>>> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only deletes files from
>>> "auto pre-load"
>>> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB, manually drop some
>>> files to WB
>>> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with drawing and files)
>>>
>>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>>> Then it will be re-created with new files
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the process is rather
>>>> convoluted.
>>>>
>>>> It makes me think 'remove' files check box should have
>>>> beside it a button that says 'delete files and clean WB.
>>>>
>>>> I created a video of the process of deleting files. It seems
>>>> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this Real
>>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>>>> >
>>>> > Can you please advise how to make the delete functionality work.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> >
>>>> > Dan
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
You delete files from the WB then they reappear. I think this
is the confusing aspect.
Can you please program it so that you click delete then they are
deleted and do not reappear on the WB . Otherwise it is not deleting.
Thanks,
Dan
On 10/14/2019 3:30 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> I just have tested (using demo-next)
>
> All objects including manually added files and drawings are being removed
>
> THEN is there were room files they will be loaded
> So WB will look like on first enter
>
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker
> <info@collisiondetection.biz <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>
> The clean WB button does not clean the files Maxim.
> Nothing is removed from the WB.
>
> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>> Daniel,
>>
>> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for the room
>> So if room is accesses for the first time: these files will be
>> loaded to the room
>> On the second enter all WB items including files and drawings
>> will remain "as-is"
>>
>> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all existing room items
>> (including drawings and manually added items) will be wiped out
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker
>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the repetition but the logic is difficult to
>> grasp.
>> All I want to do is delete a file from the WB in
>> real time. I can not see how the logic below achieves
>> that.
>>
>> You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load. How does
>> that work?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>> Daniel,
>>>
>>> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only deletes
>>> files from "auto pre-load"
>>> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB, manually
>>> drop some files to WB
>>> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with
>>> drawing and files)
>>>
>>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>>> Then it will be re-created with new files
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker
>>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the
>>> process is rather
>>> convoluted.
>>>
>>> It makes me think 'remove' files check box
>>> should have
>>> beside it a button that says 'delete files and
>>> clean WB.
>>>
>>> I created a video of the process of deleting files.
>>> It seems
>>> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
>>>
>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't
>>> get this Real
>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>>> >
>>> > Can you please advise how to make the delete
>>> functionality work.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Dan
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I just have tested (using demo-next)
All objects including manually added files and drawings are being removed
THEN is there were room files they will be loaded
So WB will look like on first enter
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
wrote:
> The clean WB button does not clean the files Maxim. Nothing is
> removed from the WB.
> On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> Daniel,
>
> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for the room
> So if room is accesses for the first time: these files will be loaded to
> the room
> On the second enter all WB items including files and drawings will remain
> "as-is"
>
> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all existing room items (including
> drawings and manually added items) will be wiped out
>
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the repetition but the logic is difficult to grasp.
>> All I want to do is delete a file from the WB in real time. I
>> can not see how the logic below achieves that.
>>
>> You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load. How does that
>> work?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> Daniel,
>>
>> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only deletes files from
>> "auto pre-load"
>> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB, manually drop some files
>> to WB
>> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with drawing and files)
>>
>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>> Then it will be re-created with new files
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the process is rather
>>> convoluted.
>>>
>>> It makes me think 'remove' files check box should have
>>> beside it a button that says 'delete files and clean WB.
>>>
>>> I created a video of the process of deleting files. It seems
>>> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this Real
>>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>>> >
>>> > Can you please advise how to make the delete functionality work.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Dan
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
The clean WB button does not clean the files Maxim. Nothing is
removed from the WB.
On 10/14/2019 3:10 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> "Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for the room
> So if room is accesses for the first time: these files will be loaded
> to the room
> On the second enter all WB items including files and drawings will
> remain "as-is"
>
> You can use "Clean WB" button this way all existing room items
> (including drawings and manually added items) will be wiped out
>
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker
> <info@collisiondetection.biz <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>
> Sorry for the repetition but the logic is difficult to
> grasp.
> All I want to do is delete a file from the WB in real
> time. I can not see how the logic below achieves that.
>
> You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load. How does
> that work?
>
>
>
> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>> Daniel,
>>
>> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only deletes files
>> from "auto pre-load"
>> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB, manually drop
>> some files to WB
>> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with drawing
>> and files)
>>
>> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
>> Then it will be re-created with new files
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker
>> <info@collisiondetection.biz
>> <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>>
>> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the process is
>> rather
>> convoluted.
>>
>> It makes me think 'remove' files check box
>> should have
>> beside it a button that says 'delete files and clean WB.
>>
>> I created a video of the process of deleting files. It seems
>> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
>>
>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this
>> Real
>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>> >
>> > Can you please advise how to make the delete
>> functionality work.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Daniel,
"Room files" is sort of "auto-preload" list for the room
So if room is accesses for the first time: these files will be loaded to
the room
On the second enter all WB items including files and drawings will remain
"as-is"
You can use "Clean WB" button this way all existing room items (including
drawings and manually added items) will be wiped out
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:04, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
wrote:
> Sorry for the repetition but the logic is difficult to grasp.
> All I want to do is delete a file from the WB in real time. I
> can not see how the logic below achieves that.
>
> You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load. How does that
> work?
>
>
>
> On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> Daniel,
>
> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only deletes files from
> "auto pre-load"
> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB, manually drop some files
> to WB
> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with drawing and files)
>
> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
> Then it will be re-created with new files
>
>
> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
> wrote:
>
>> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the process is rather
>> convoluted.
>>
>> It makes me think 'remove' files check box should have
>> beside it a button that says 'delete files and clean WB.
>>
>> I created a video of the process of deleting files. It seems
>> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
>>
>>
>> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
>> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this Real
>> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>> >
>> > Can you please advise how to make the delete functionality work.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
Sorry for the repetition but the logic is difficult to grasp.
All I want to do is delete a file from the WB in real time. I
can not see how the logic below achieves that.
You say it deletes file from auto-pre-load. How does that work?
On 10/14/2019 2:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only deletes files from
> "auto pre-load"
> Same way: you can manually draw something on WB, manually drop some
> files to WB
> Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with drawing and files)
>
> You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
> Then it will be re-created with new files
>
>
> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker
> <info@collisiondetection.biz <ma...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:
>
> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the process is rather
> convoluted.
>
> It makes me think 'remove' files check box should have
> beside it a button that says 'delete files and clean WB.
>
> I created a video of the process of deleting files. It seems
> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
>
> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this Real
> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
> >
> > Can you please advise how to make the delete functionality
> work.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Daniel,
I wrote you many, many times: delete checkbox only deletes files from "auto
pre-load"
Same way: you can manually draw something on WB, manually drop some files
to WB
Exit and enter the room and you will see same WB (with drawing and files)
You need to "wipe out" the whole WB
Then it will be re-created with new files
On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>
wrote:
> Ok so it is possible to delete files but the process is rather
> convoluted.
>
> It makes me think 'remove' files check box should have
> beside it a button that says 'delete files and clean WB.
>
> I created a video of the process of deleting files. It seems
> complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
>
>
> https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
> > Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this Real
> > Time deletion to work in OM 5.
> >
> > Can you please advise how to make the delete functionality work.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Openmeetings Moodle Plugin Not able to delete files on WB
Posted by Daniel Baker <in...@collisiondetection.biz>.
Ok so it is possible to delete files but the process is rather
convoluted.
It makes me think 'remove' files check box should have
beside it a button that says 'delete files and clean WB.
I created a video of the process of deleting files. It seems
complicated. You can view it in VLC media player.
https://anonfile.com/Ben0r685nb/How_to_delete_files_from_Moodle_OM_plugin_webm
Thanks
Dan
On 10/11/2019 9:14 PM, Daniel Baker wrote:
> Sorry to be harping on about this but I can't get this Real
> Time deletion to work in OM 5.
>
> Can you please advise how to make the delete functionality work.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
>
>