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Posted to users@cocoon.apache.org by Joern Turner <jo...@web.de> on 2005/01/01 02:47:51 UTC

ANN: Chicoon 0.9.9 available - XForms in Cocoon

Hello everybody,

we've just released Chicoon 0.9.9 which builds upon the java-based W3C XForms
implementation 'Chiba' and brings XForms to the Cocoon platform.

Chicoon wraps a thin layer around Chiba to make it work inside Cocoon. It comes
as a Cocoon Action to be used anywhere in your pipelines.

I know Cocoon has its own framework CForms but for those that are looking for
standard conformance and maybe some of the following features are welcome to try
it and give feedback.

Some of the features:
- full XML Schema datatype support
- descriptive validation through XPAth expressions
- calculation module with dependency tracking
- extensible connector API to pull and submit data to arbitrary sources/targets
- easy form-chaining (no scripting required)
- very stable and tested core XForms processor

Note the following:
- we're no Cocoon wizards at all so the integration might still be improved much
- the standard stylesheet generates scriptless html so interaction is poor.
Javascript generation is planned for the next releases of Chiba to improve
user-experience.

you can download Chicoon at
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=20274&package_id=78897

Comments welcome.

Joern Turner
-Chiba project admin-




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Re: ANN: Chicoon 0.9.9 available - XForms in Cocoon

Posted by Joern Turner <jo...@web.de>.
Upayavira <uv <at> upaya.co.uk> writes:

> 

> >  
> >
> I for one would appreciate hearing how you a XForms site would look. 
> Does Chiba fun client side, and Cocoon just do validation and data 
> storage? What would the typical architecture of a Chicoon site be?

Currently Chicoon works pure server-side that is all actions will take place
inside the Chicoon Action (or to be exact the ChibaBean inside): changes of
the UI will be transformed from an internal XForms model into the
representation the requesting client can render. 

Note that this is only the current state and not a basic architectural
constraint; cause XForms is device-independent by nature we've choosen the
dump (scriptless) browser to be our proof-of-concept implementation. As 
such the browser is interchangeable with any other device without noteable
processing power.

As XForms conformance is nearly reached we'll now focus on improving the
user-experience by generating appropriate javascript to reduce round-trips and
give more immediate feedback.

The amount of generated code for a given device will decide on how much the
server will have to do and how much the client can handle by itself. 

Joern



> 
> Regards, Upayavira
> 





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Re: ANN: Chicoon 0.9.9 available - XForms in Cocoon

Posted by Upayavira <uv...@upaya.co.uk>.
Joern Turner wrote:

>Hello everybody,
>
>we've just released Chicoon 0.9.9 which builds upon the java-based W3C XForms
>implementation 'Chiba' and brings XForms to the Cocoon platform.
>
>Chicoon wraps a thin layer around Chiba to make it work inside Cocoon. It comes
>as a Cocoon Action to be used anywhere in your pipelines.
>
>I know Cocoon has its own framework CForms but for those that are looking for
>standard conformance and maybe some of the following features are welcome to try
>it and give feedback.
>
>Some of the features:
>- full XML Schema datatype support
>- descriptive validation through XPAth expressions
>- calculation module with dependency tracking
>- extensible connector API to pull and submit data to arbitrary sources/targets
>- easy form-chaining (no scripting required)
>- very stable and tested core XForms processor
>
>Note the following:
>- we're no Cocoon wizards at all so the integration might still be improved much
>- the standard stylesheet generates scriptless html so interaction is poor.
>Javascript generation is planned for the next releases of Chiba to improve
>user-experience.
>
>you can download Chicoon at
>http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=20274&package_id=78897
>
>Comments welcome.
>
>Joern Turner
>  
>
I for one would appreciate hearing how you a XForms site would look. 
Does Chiba fun client side, and Cocoon just do validation and data 
storage? What would the typical architecture of a Chicoon site be?

Regards, Upayavira


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Re: ANN: Chicoon 0.9.9 available - XForms in Cocoon

Posted by Lars Huttar <la...@sil.org>.
Lars Huttar wrote:

> Hello Joern,
> I've been trying to build Chicoon under Windows. I edited 
> build.properties to set the Cocoon dir, which is "C:\Program 
> Files\Apache Group\cocoon". But whenever I type "ant", I get this error:
>
>    deploy:
>
>    BUILD FAILED
>    C:\temp\extract\CHICOO~1.0-S\chicoon\build.xml:55: Cocoon 
> installation dir not present - Please specify in build.properties
>
> Here are things I've tried for my build.properties cocoon.dir line:
>
>    cocoon.dir=[C:\Program Files\Apache Group\cocoon]
>    cocoon.dir=[C:/Program Files/Apache Group/cocoon]
>    cocoon.dir=[/Program Files/Apache Group/cocoon]
>    cocoon.dir=[/Progra~1/Apache~1/cocoon]
>    cocoon.dir=[../../../../Progra~1/Apache~1/cocoon]
>    cocoon.dir=[../../../../../Progra~1/Apache~1/cocoon]

Never mind...
:-p

I finally figured out that the square brackets in the supplied 
build.properties.xml file were part of the comment saying I was supposed 
to suply the Cocoon dir path.
    cocoon.dir=/Program Files/Apache Group/cocoon
worked fine.

Lars


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Re: ANN: Chicoon 0.9.9 available - XForms in Cocoon

Posted by Lars Huttar <la...@sil.org>.
Hello Joern,
I've been trying to build Chicoon under Windows. I edited 
build.properties to set the Cocoon dir, which is "C:\Program 
Files\Apache Group\cocoon". But whenever I type "ant", I get this error:

    deploy:

    BUILD FAILED
    C:\temp\extract\CHICOO~1.0-S\chicoon\build.xml:55: Cocoon 
installation dir not present - Please specify in build.properties

Here are things I've tried for my build.properties cocoon.dir line:

    cocoon.dir=[C:\Program Files\Apache Group\cocoon]
    cocoon.dir=[C:/Program Files/Apache Group/cocoon]
    cocoon.dir=[/Program Files/Apache Group/cocoon]
    cocoon.dir=[/Progra~1/Apache~1/cocoon]
    cocoon.dir=[../../../../Progra~1/Apache~1/cocoon]
    cocoon.dir=[../../../../../Progra~1/Apache~1/cocoon]

and other similar variations. All give the same result.

The web page 
http://wyona.org/pipermail/wyonacms-dev/2003-March/001152.html seems to 
indicate that I should use forward-slashes, and that spaces are OK. But 
as indicated above, /Program Files/Apache Group/cocoon doesn't work.

Somebody please help...
Lars


Joern Turner wrote:

>Hello everybody,
>
>we've just released Chicoon 0.9.9 which builds upon the java-based W3C XForms
>implementation 'Chiba' and brings XForms to the Cocoon platform.
>
>  
>

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