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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by Sa...@seagate.com on 2002/02/01 05:31:04 UTC
RE: running Apache under non-root
hmmm sudo seems a good idea. wonder why i didnt think of it b4 :)
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"Gilles gros"
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epj.com> cc:
Subject: RE: running Apache under non-root
01/31/2002
10:15 AM
Please
respond to
users
you can try the sudo command.
-----Original Message-----
From: Saqib.N.Ali@seagate.com [mailto:Saqib.N.Ali@seagate.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:14 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: running Apache under non-root
Hi,
I would like to add a user on my solaris servers, that can control the
apache server (restart/start/stop change httpd.conf etc). I have quite a
few servers that are running apache. I dont want to give out the root
passwd to everyone to manage the apache processes. Is there a way I can do
this?
Thanks
Saqib Ali
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Re: running Apache under non-root
Posted by WillyB <wi...@maniawaste.net>.
Webmin is an excellent program.
It will let you assign only certain things to certain users.
They can then just log onto the webmin url and only have access to what you
want them to have access to.
WillyB
At 06:29 AM 2/1/02, you wrote:
>You also might want to look at Webmin, it is a web interface for
>controlling
>almost every aspect of your system. I believe that program will let
>certain users
>change passwords.
>
>
>
>
>Saqib.N.Ali@seagate.com wrote:
> >
> > hmmm sudo seems a good idea. wonder why i didnt think of it b4 :)
> >
> > Saqib Ali
> > =======================
> > Organic Document: Living and evolving document
> > For more information on Organic Documents visit
> > http://gcs.seagate.com/scripts/wiki/
> >
> >
> > "Gilles gros"
> > <gillesg@whit To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> > epj.com> cc:
> > Subject: RE: running
> Apache under non-root
> > 01/31/2002
> > 10:15 AM
> > Please
> > respond to
> > users
> >
> >
> >
> > you can try the sudo command.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Saqib.N.Ali@seagate.com [mailto:Saqib.N.Ali@seagate.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:14 AM
> > To: users@httpd.apache.org
> > Subject: running Apache under non-root
> >
> > Hi,
> > I would like to add a user on my solaris servers, that can control the
> > apache server (restart/start/stop change httpd.conf etc). I have quite a
> > few servers that are running apache. I dont want to give out the root
> > passwd to everyone to manage the apache processes. Is there a way I can do
> > this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Saqib Ali
> > =======================
> > Organic Document: Living and evolving document
> > For more information on Organic Documents visit http://www.stonebeat.org
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Re: running Apache under non-root
Posted by Brian Gibson <bg...@wheatonma.edu>.
You also might want to look at Webmin, it is a web interface for
controlling
almost every aspect of your system. I believe that program will let
certain users
change passwords.
Saqib.N.Ali@seagate.com wrote:
>
> hmmm sudo seems a good idea. wonder why i didnt think of it b4 :)
>
> Saqib Ali
> =======================
> Organic Document: Living and evolving document
> For more information on Organic Documents visit
> http://gcs.seagate.com/scripts/wiki/
>
>
> "Gilles gros"
> <gillesg@whit To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> epj.com> cc:
> Subject: RE: running Apache under non-root
> 01/31/2002
> 10:15 AM
> Please
> respond to
> users
>
>
>
> you can try the sudo command.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Saqib.N.Ali@seagate.com [mailto:Saqib.N.Ali@seagate.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:14 AM
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Subject: running Apache under non-root
>
> Hi,
> I would like to add a user on my solaris servers, that can control the
> apache server (restart/start/stop change httpd.conf etc). I have quite a
> few servers that are running apache. I dont want to give out the root
> passwd to everyone to manage the apache processes. Is there a way I can do
> this?
>
> Thanks
> Saqib Ali
> =======================
> Organic Document: Living and evolving document
> For more information on Organic Documents visit http://www.stonebeat.org
>
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RE: gaining access to my error logs.
Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
> From: justken [mailto:justken@rogers.com]
> 1) is there a method to have apache direct the error logs to the browser,
> instead of a log file?
I don't believe so.
> 2) is there a way to find the line number of the error without the error
> logs? knowing where the error is, is usually sufficient.
I don't believe so.
> 3) is there a way to find out what the error is by checking the
> access logs
As someone else pointed out, the first number is the HTTP response status
code, and the second number is probably the number of bytes in the request.
>
> I dread to ask, is there a way to force error logs to report to my
> directory, without having my host jump all over my head?
No.
> finally, is it common for virtual hosting service providers to have such
> limited access to these log files?
Not a good one. You seem to already know the answer here: get a new
provider. In my opinion, there is no way to debug cgi and other
configuration problems properly without access to the error log.
Joshua.
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gaining access to my error logs.
Posted by justken <ju...@rogers.com>.
hello
I develop perl scrips on my win2k server running apache, these are usually
uploaded to a standard ISP, which uses a modified form of apache and a
win2k/linux hybrid to host our clients web pages.
their perl interpreter is on the linux side of things, and a certain degree
of "conversion" is required before scripts working on my win2k box will
work on their system. secondly, i have recently discovered that perl mods'
they claim are installed, simply do not work, but throw errors when
including them "use this::mod;"
is there a way to determine what mod's our host has installed, without
talking to their juniour tech support for 2 hours, only to get an email
from their seniour tech asking "what mod's do you want? well let you know
if they are installed." and to check for the correct method of calling them
-- case sensitive?
however, they do not have any access to error logs, will not place the
directive into my virtual host to route them to my logs directory,
occasionally i have been able to have them email the contents of the log
file to me during a 24 hour period.
I have tried to use an .htaccess file in my root directory, to override
the logging and direct the error to my log directory, however this has
failed (probably not allowed in the main config file.
1) is there a method to have apache direct the error logs to the browser,
instead of a log file?
2) is there a way to find the line number of the error without the error
logs? knowing where the error is, is usually sufficient.
3) is there a way to find out what the error is by checking the access logs
and comparing the numbers that it spits out... ie:
31/Jan/2002:23:08:18 -0500] "POST
/cgi-bin/EditReady/editPageAct.pl HTTP/1.1" 200 1310 "http://www.gera
01/Feb/2002:00:12:07 -0500] "POST
/cgi-bin/EditReady/editPageAct.pl HTTP/1.1" 200 1310 "http://www.gera
01/Feb/2002:00:13:43 -0500] "POST
/cgi-bin/EditReady/editPageAct.pl HTTP/1.1" 200 1310 "http://www.gera
01/Feb/2002:00:13:55 -0500] "POST
/cgi-bin/EditReady/editPageAct.pl HTTP/1.1" 200 1310 "http://www.gera
01/Feb/2002:00:14:13 -0500] "POST
/cgi-bin/EditReady/editPageAct.pl HTTP/1.1" 500 532 "http://www.geral
01/Feb/2002:00:20:12 -0500] "POST
/cgi-bin/EditReady/editPageAct.pl HTTP/1.1" 500 532 "http://www.geral
the 500 seems to correspond with the "internal server error" but what of
the 200 1310 and the 500 532?
is there some documentation on this?
I dread to ask, is there a way to force error logs to report to my
directory, without having my host jump all over my head? they claim the
reason for not having error logs is that they are "space consuming" and i
argue that the access logs are far more "space consuming" and a simple
script could be created to provide the same wonderful charts and graphs
that they provide us without the weight of the access logs. but without the
error logs, my time to implementation is often horribly exagerated, and
often i'm left guessing and pounding my head against a wall?
recently they have even disabled the command line interpreter, so sitting
on the phone while a techy manually runs the scripts on their server is no
longer possible, they claim...
finally, is it common for virtual hosting service providers to have such
limited access to these log files? i have started looking for a new hosting
company, that will provide us with the "standard" services, and the
backbone that we require, but with more direct access to how our sites are
served, what mod's are installed, and what log files we can see.
I'm tempted to write a bot that scans their system for the httpd file, and
then edit it myself... but that would be bad.
ken easson
justken.net
justken@rogers.com
justken web programming and technical support.
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