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jsp vs. velocity
Are both the jsp and jetspeed templates kept in sync? I have been
reading in both the documentation and in a couple of posts that velocity
is the default / preferred method of developing or working with the
templates. I have seen some things such as the browser title, not being
updated correctly in the jsp templates where the velocity ones seems to
be working correctly. I just wanted to know if others have been steered
away from using the jsp side of things, because the velocity side is
just kept up to date more or even because one is supported better.
Any thoughts?
My experience with velocity is comprised of looking at the templates in
jetspeed, so I was hoping to stick to jsp's, but if others have had
issues or concerns I was hoping to know earlier and adjust rather than
later and panic.
Jason Trust
___________________________
Corporate Technology Partners, Inc
Emerging Technology Solutions
www.ctpartners.com
877.287.2874 x702
Re: jsp vs. velocity
Posted by Stijn de Witt <St...@chello.nl>.
Thanks Holger, that was exactly what I needed to hear!
I was 'tempted' by Velocity's design from the get go, but because JSP is
more of a standard, we decided internally to start with JSP and move over to
Velocity if we could see some real benefits other than it's
cleaner-and-leaner approach...But everytime I read documentation, people
almost always assumed you were using Velocity and this started to nag on me
a bit. I really needed someone to tell me that it works like a charm and
really should give it a try. Thanks!
-Stijn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Dewes" <h....@insiders.de>
To: "'Jetspeed Users List'" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: jsp vs. velocity
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stijn de Witt [mailto:StijnDeWitt@chello.nl]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 7:25 PM
> > To: Jetspeed Users List
> > Subject: Re: jsp vs. velocity
> >
> >
> > We are using JSP too, actually... :)
> > Is there anyone here who has tried both and can give us some
> > good reasons to choose one over the other?
>
> I don't know JSP too well, and I learned Velocity when I started using
> Jetspeed, but I have really fallen in love with Velocity. It's the only
> templating engine I have seen so far that has a true separation of code
> and display. And it is very easy to learn. I'd suggest to give it a
> shot.
>
> Cheers
> --
> Holger Dewes
>
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RE: jsp vs. velocity
Posted by Holger Dewes <h....@insiders.de>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stijn de Witt [mailto:StijnDeWitt@chello.nl]
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 7:25 PM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: Re: jsp vs. velocity
>
>
> We are using JSP too, actually... :)
> Is there anyone here who has tried both and can give us some
> good reasons to choose one over the other?
I don't know JSP too well, and I learned Velocity when I started using
Jetspeed, but I have really fallen in love with Velocity. It's the only
templating engine I have seen so far that has a true separation of code
and display. And it is very easy to learn. I'd suggest to give it a
shot.
Cheers
--
Holger Dewes
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Re: jsp vs. velocity
Posted by Stijn de Witt <St...@chello.nl>.
We are using JSP too, actually... :)
Is there anyone here who has tried both and can give us some good reasons to
choose one over the other?
-Stijn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Trust" <jt...@ctpartners.com>
To: <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:11 PM
Subject: jsp vs. velocity
Are both the jsp and jetspeed templates kept in sync? I have been
reading in both the documentation and in a couple of posts that velocity
is the default / preferred method of developing or working with the
templates. I have seen some things such as the browser title, not being
updated correctly in the jsp templates where the velocity ones seems to
be working correctly. I just wanted to know if others have been steered
away from using the jsp side of things, because the velocity side is
just kept up to date more or even because one is supported better.
Any thoughts?
My experience with velocity is comprised of looking at the templates in
jetspeed, so I was hoping to stick to jsp's, but if others have had
issues or concerns I was hoping to know earlier and adjust rather than
later and panic.
Jason Trust
___________________________
Corporate Technology Partners, Inc
Emerging Technology Solutions
www.ctpartners.com
877.287.2874 x702
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RE: jsp vs. velocity
Posted by Mark Orciuch <ma...@ngsltd.com>.
JSP templates should be in synch with Velocity in respect to navigations,
layouts and most screens (login, confirm, register, change password, edit
user, etc). Other templates are a matter of developer's personal preference.
If you know of any issues with JSP navigations, screens and layouts, please
log them into Bugzilla.
Best regards,
Mark Orciuch - morciuch@apache.org
Jakarta Jetspeed - Enterprise Portal in Java
http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Trust [mailto:jtrust@ctpartners.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:11 AM
> To: jetspeed-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: jsp vs. velocity
>
>
> Are both the jsp and jetspeed templates kept in sync? I have been
> reading in both the documentation and in a couple of posts that velocity
> is the default / preferred method of developing or working with the
> templates. I have seen some things such as the browser title, not being
> updated correctly in the jsp templates where the velocity ones seems to
> be working correctly. I just wanted to know if others have been steered
> away from using the jsp side of things, because the velocity side is
> just kept up to date more or even because one is supported better.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> My experience with velocity is comprised of looking at the templates in
> jetspeed, so I was hoping to stick to jsp's, but if others have had
> issues or concerns I was hoping to know earlier and adjust rather than
> later and panic.
>
>
>
> Jason Trust
>
> ___________________________
>
> Corporate Technology Partners, Inc
> Emerging Technology Solutions
>
> www.ctpartners.com
>
> 877.287.2874 x702
>
>
>
>
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Re: jsp vs. velocity
Posted by scott <sc...@macrisolutions.com>.
I have heard both good and bad on each. Here is some info that might help you
decide.
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/casestudy1.html
On Saturday 21 February 2004 02:02 pm, matt kampmeier wrote:
> Has anyone done a detailed performance comparison between the jsp and
> velocity worlds? While I use jsp's in the business world, I've stuck
> with velocity templates in the jetspeed world because of their relative
> simplicity. But I'm concerned that I'm paying a noticeable performance
> penalty for that decision. Anyone have any numbers to back this up?
>
> Cheers,
> Matt Kampmeier
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Trust [mailto:jtrust@ctpartners.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:11 AM
> To: jetspeed-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: jsp vs. velocity
>
> Are both the jsp and jetspeed templates kept in sync? I have been
> reading in both the documentation and in a couple of posts that velocity
> is the default / preferred method of developing or working with the
> templates. I have seen some things such as the browser title, not being
> updated correctly in the jsp templates where the velocity ones seems to
> be working correctly. I just wanted to know if others have been steered
> away from using the jsp side of things, because the velocity side is
> just kept up to date more or even because one is supported better.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> My experience with velocity is comprised of looking at the templates in
> jetspeed, so I was hoping to stick to jsp's, but if others have had
> issues or concerns I was hoping to know earlier and adjust rather than
> later and panic.
>
>
>
> Jason Trust
>
> ___________________________
>
> Corporate Technology Partners, Inc
> Emerging Technology Solutions
>
> www.ctpartners.com
>
> 877.287.2874 x702
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: jsp vs. velocity
Posted by matt kampmeier <mk...@wi.rr.com>.
Has anyone done a detailed performance comparison between the jsp and
velocity worlds? While I use jsp's in the business world, I've stuck
with velocity templates in the jetspeed world because of their relative
simplicity. But I'm concerned that I'm paying a noticeable performance
penalty for that decision. Anyone have any numbers to back this up?
Cheers,
Matt Kampmeier
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Trust [mailto:jtrust@ctpartners.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:11 AM
To: jetspeed-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: jsp vs. velocity
Are both the jsp and jetspeed templates kept in sync? I have been
reading in both the documentation and in a couple of posts that velocity
is the default / preferred method of developing or working with the
templates. I have seen some things such as the browser title, not being
updated correctly in the jsp templates where the velocity ones seems to
be working correctly. I just wanted to know if others have been steered
away from using the jsp side of things, because the velocity side is
just kept up to date more or even because one is supported better.
Any thoughts?
My experience with velocity is comprised of looking at the templates in
jetspeed, so I was hoping to stick to jsp's, but if others have had
issues or concerns I was hoping to know earlier and adjust rather than
later and panic.
Jason Trust
___________________________
Corporate Technology Partners, Inc
Emerging Technology Solutions
www.ctpartners.com
877.287.2874 x702
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