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Posted to dev@maven.apache.org by Benjamin Bentmann <be...@udo.edu> on 2009/11/13 00:59:05 UTC
Site Update for Maven 3.0-alpha-3
Hi,
I noticed that we didn't mention previous alphas of 3.0 on the Maven
site. How do we want to go about that with alpha-3?
To attract more testers, I think we should have this alpha listed in the
download section. E.g. some structure like
* Stable Releases
2.2.1
2.1.0
2.0.10
* Alpha/Beta Releases
3.0-alpha-3
* Previous Releases
WDYT?
Benjamin
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Re: Site Update for Maven 3.0-alpha-3
Posted by Brian Fox <br...@infinity.nu>.
The stable versions are 2.0.10 and 2.2.1, 2.1.0 is not considered stable.
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Stevo Slavić <ss...@gmail.com> wrote:
> IMO 2.1.0 should stay as it is, if I'm not mistaken, most recent stable
> release of maven which is compatible with Java 1.4. When maven 2.2.1 is
> configured as default external maven installation m2eclipse 0.9.9 refuses to
> build projects (like maven core plugins) which still require Java 1.4. Maybe
> 2.0.10 could be removed instead.
>
> Regards,
> Stevo.
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 13/11/2009, at 11:28 AM, Brett Porter wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On 13/11/2009, at 10:59 AM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I noticed that we didn't mention previous alphas of 3.0 on the Maven
>> site. How do we want to go about that with alpha-3?
>> >>
>> >> To attract more testers, I think we should have this alpha listed in the
>> download section. E.g. some structure like
>> >>
>> >> * Stable Releases
>> >> 2.2.1
>> >> 2.1.0
>> >> 2.0.10
>> >> * Alpha/Beta Releases
>> >> 3.0-alpha-3
>> >> * Previous Releases
>> >>
>> >> WDYT?
>> >
>> > +1, though I think we can remove 2.1.0 from the list as it is superceded
>> by 2.2.1.
>> >
>> > When I started trying to automate more of the release process for 2.0.11,
>> I already did this (moved to a branch now):
>> >
>> >
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/pom.xml?r1=792808&r2=792807&pathrev=792808
>> >
>> > There was general support, but I also split the release notes which
>> raised some concerns. And then I ran out of spare time with my holiday, etc.
>> :)
>> >
>> > I believe consensus was:
>> > - use JIRA as the authoritative source for release notes
>> > - support the split structure provided above for posting online (later
>> moving to pull information from JIRA)
>> > - also produce an aggregated release notes (I believe for a series, not
>> all releases), which can be done automatically
>> >
>> > So, options:
>> > - merge down just the bits that split into stable / preview versions
>> > - fix the aggregated release notes and merge the lot
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
>> >
>> > I'll update the branch for current versions.
>>
>> I've updated the branch here:
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/branches/release-presentation
>>
>> What would be required to add a new release is illustrated here:
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/branches/release-presentation/README.txt
>>
>> I've staged a sample site here:
>> http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/<http://people.apache.org/%7Ebrett/staged-maven-site/>
>>
>> Alpha 3 is on the download page only, and release notes are drafted:
>> http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/docs/3.0-alpha-3/release-notes.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Ebrett/staged-maven-site/docs/3.0-alpha-3/release-notes.html>
>>
>> The aggregated release notes are here:
>> http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/release-notes-all.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Ebrett/staged-maven-site/release-notes-all.html>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brett
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Site Update for Maven 3.0-alpha-3
Posted by Stevo Slavić <ss...@gmail.com>.
IMO 2.1.0 should stay as it is, if I'm not mistaken, most recent stable
release of maven which is compatible with Java 1.4. When maven 2.2.1 is
configured as default external maven installation m2eclipse 0.9.9 refuses to
build projects (like maven core plugins) which still require Java 1.4. Maybe
2.0.10 could be removed instead.
Regards,
Stevo.
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 13/11/2009, at 11:28 AM, Brett Porter wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 13/11/2009, at 10:59 AM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I noticed that we didn't mention previous alphas of 3.0 on the Maven
> site. How do we want to go about that with alpha-3?
> >>
> >> To attract more testers, I think we should have this alpha listed in the
> download section. E.g. some structure like
> >>
> >> * Stable Releases
> >> 2.2.1
> >> 2.1.0
> >> 2.0.10
> >> * Alpha/Beta Releases
> >> 3.0-alpha-3
> >> * Previous Releases
> >>
> >> WDYT?
> >
> > +1, though I think we can remove 2.1.0 from the list as it is superceded
> by 2.2.1.
> >
> > When I started trying to automate more of the release process for 2.0.11,
> I already did this (moved to a branch now):
> >
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/pom.xml?r1=792808&r2=792807&pathrev=792808
> >
> > There was general support, but I also split the release notes which
> raised some concerns. And then I ran out of spare time with my holiday, etc.
> :)
> >
> > I believe consensus was:
> > - use JIRA as the authoritative source for release notes
> > - support the split structure provided above for posting online (later
> moving to pull information from JIRA)
> > - also produce an aggregated release notes (I believe for a series, not
> all releases), which can be done automatically
> >
> > So, options:
> > - merge down just the bits that split into stable / preview versions
> > - fix the aggregated release notes and merge the lot
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > I'll update the branch for current versions.
>
> I've updated the branch here:
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/branches/release-presentation
>
> What would be required to add a new release is illustrated here:
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/branches/release-presentation/README.txt
>
> I've staged a sample site here:
> http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/<http://people.apache.org/%7Ebrett/staged-maven-site/>
>
> Alpha 3 is on the download page only, and release notes are drafted:
> http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/docs/3.0-alpha-3/release-notes.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Ebrett/staged-maven-site/docs/3.0-alpha-3/release-notes.html>
>
> The aggregated release notes are here:
> http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/release-notes-all.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Ebrett/staged-maven-site/release-notes-all.html>
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
>
>
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Re: Site Update for Maven 3.0-alpha-3
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
On 16/11/2009, at 11:38 PM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
> Can't we keep 2.0.10 only in archives ?
> I don't think it is necessary to do some advertisement for it.
> Latest stable is 2.2.1 and latest Alpha/Beta is 3.0-alpha-3
There are apparently some who haven't upgraded to 2.2.x, either due to a build incompat. or being stuck on JDK 1.4.
- Brett
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Re: Site Update for Maven 3.0-alpha-3
Posted by Arnaud HERITIER <ah...@gmail.com>.
Can't we keep 2.0.10 only in archives ?
I don't think it is necessary to do some advertisement for it.
Latest stable is 2.2.1 and latest Alpha/Beta is 3.0-alpha-3
Arnaud Héritier
Software Factory Manager
eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com
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On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 13/11/2009, at 11:50 PM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:
>
> > Brett Porter wrote:
> >
> >> I've staged a sample site here:
> http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/
> >
> > +1, I like the proposed structure.
> >
> > Just one minor thing: I believe the JAR/PDF of the site should be listed
> separately as currently and not be part of the table listing the 2.2.1
> downloads. The site is meant to cover various Maven versions so I consider
> the structure at
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/download.html
> >
> > irritating as it suggests the docs are meant specifically for 2.2.1.
>
> Done that, thanks.
>
> >
> >> Alpha 3 is on the download page only, and release notes are drafted:
> http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/docs/3.0-alpha-3/release-notes.html
> >
> > Thanks, I happily grabbed that and copied it over to the trunk.
> >
> > Before we completely merge the branch to trunk, we should look into
> releasing the updated plexus-velocity component. There are already enough
> snapshot things involved in the site for my taste.
>
> Agreed. I'll start that process now and merge it once it's released.
>
> - Brett
>
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Re: Site Update for Maven 3.0-alpha-3
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
Ok, I've merged this over. I haven't deployed the site - I assume Benjamin will be doing so shortly after adding the 3.0-alpha-4 release notes. The aggregated release notes for 3.0-alpha-3+ is there too.
Let me know whether there is anything else I can do to help.
Cheers,
Brett
On 16/11/2009, at 11:17 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
>
> On 13/11/2009, at 11:50 PM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:
>
>> Brett Porter wrote:
>>
>>> I've staged a sample site here: http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/
>>
>> +1, I like the proposed structure.
>>
>> Just one minor thing: I believe the JAR/PDF of the site should be listed separately as currently and not be part of the table listing the 2.2.1 downloads. The site is meant to cover various Maven versions so I consider the structure at
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/download.html
>>
>> irritating as it suggests the docs are meant specifically for 2.2.1.
>
> Done that, thanks.
>
>>
>>> Alpha 3 is on the download page only, and release notes are drafted: http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/docs/3.0-alpha-3/release-notes.html
>>
>> Thanks, I happily grabbed that and copied it over to the trunk.
>>
>> Before we completely merge the branch to trunk, we should look into releasing the updated plexus-velocity component. There are already enough snapshot things involved in the site for my taste.
>
> Agreed. I'll start that process now and merge it once it's released.
>
> - Brett
>
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Re: Site Update for Maven 3.0-alpha-3
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
On 13/11/2009, at 11:50 PM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:
> Brett Porter wrote:
>
>> I've staged a sample site here: http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/
>
> +1, I like the proposed structure.
>
> Just one minor thing: I believe the JAR/PDF of the site should be listed separately as currently and not be part of the table listing the 2.2.1 downloads. The site is meant to cover various Maven versions so I consider the structure at
>
> http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/download.html
>
> irritating as it suggests the docs are meant specifically for 2.2.1.
Done that, thanks.
>
>> Alpha 3 is on the download page only, and release notes are drafted: http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/docs/3.0-alpha-3/release-notes.html
>
> Thanks, I happily grabbed that and copied it over to the trunk.
>
> Before we completely merge the branch to trunk, we should look into releasing the updated plexus-velocity component. There are already enough snapshot things involved in the site for my taste.
Agreed. I'll start that process now and merge it once it's released.
- Brett
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Re: Site Update for Maven 3.0-alpha-3
Posted by Benjamin Bentmann <be...@udo.edu>.
Brett Porter wrote:
> I've staged a sample site here: http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/
+1, I like the proposed structure.
Just one minor thing: I believe the JAR/PDF of the site should be listed
separately as currently and not be part of the table listing the 2.2.1
downloads. The site is meant to cover various Maven versions so I
consider the structure at
http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/download.html
irritating as it suggests the docs are meant specifically for 2.2.1.
> Alpha 3 is on the download page only, and release notes are drafted: http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/docs/3.0-alpha-3/release-notes.html
Thanks, I happily grabbed that and copied it over to the trunk.
Before we completely merge the branch to trunk, we should look into
releasing the updated plexus-velocity component. There are already
enough snapshot things involved in the site for my taste.
Benjamin
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Re: Site Update for Maven 3.0-alpha-3
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
On 13/11/2009, at 11:28 AM, Brett Porter wrote:
>
>
> On 13/11/2009, at 10:59 AM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I noticed that we didn't mention previous alphas of 3.0 on the Maven site. How do we want to go about that with alpha-3?
>>
>> To attract more testers, I think we should have this alpha listed in the download section. E.g. some structure like
>>
>> * Stable Releases
>> 2.2.1
>> 2.1.0
>> 2.0.10
>> * Alpha/Beta Releases
>> 3.0-alpha-3
>> * Previous Releases
>>
>> WDYT?
>
> +1, though I think we can remove 2.1.0 from the list as it is superceded by 2.2.1.
>
> When I started trying to automate more of the release process for 2.0.11, I already did this (moved to a branch now):
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/pom.xml?r1=792808&r2=792807&pathrev=792808
>
> There was general support, but I also split the release notes which raised some concerns. And then I ran out of spare time with my holiday, etc. :)
>
> I believe consensus was:
> - use JIRA as the authoritative source for release notes
> - support the split structure provided above for posting online (later moving to pull information from JIRA)
> - also produce an aggregated release notes (I believe for a series, not all releases), which can be done automatically
>
> So, options:
> - merge down just the bits that split into stable / preview versions
> - fix the aggregated release notes and merge the lot
>
> Thoughts?
>
> I'll update the branch for current versions.
I've updated the branch here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/branches/release-presentation
What would be required to add a new release is illustrated here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/branches/release-presentation/README.txt
I've staged a sample site here: http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/
Alpha 3 is on the download page only, and release notes are drafted: http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/docs/3.0-alpha-3/release-notes.html
The aggregated release notes are here: http://people.apache.org/~brett/staged-maven-site/release-notes-all.html
Cheers,
Brett
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Re: Site Update for Maven 3.0-alpha-3
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
On 13/11/2009, at 10:59 AM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I noticed that we didn't mention previous alphas of 3.0 on the Maven site. How do we want to go about that with alpha-3?
>
> To attract more testers, I think we should have this alpha listed in the download section. E.g. some structure like
>
> * Stable Releases
> 2.2.1
> 2.1.0
> 2.0.10
> * Alpha/Beta Releases
> 3.0-alpha-3
> * Previous Releases
>
> WDYT?
+1, though I think we can remove 2.1.0 from the list as it is superceded by 2.2.1.
When I started trying to automate more of the release process for 2.0.11, I already did this (moved to a branch now):
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/pom.xml?r1=792808&r2=792807&pathrev=792808
There was general support, but I also split the release notes which raised some concerns. And then I ran out of spare time with my holiday, etc. :)
I believe consensus was:
- use JIRA as the authoritative source for release notes
- support the split structure provided above for posting online (later moving to pull information from JIRA)
- also produce an aggregated release notes (I believe for a series, not all releases), which can be done automatically
So, options:
- merge down just the bits that split into stable / preview versions
- fix the aggregated release notes and merge the lot
Thoughts?
I'll update the branch for current versions.
- Brett
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Re: Site Update for Maven 3.0-alpha-3
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>.
Can't hurt. I have no problem promoting alpha-3. It's the best Maven
that's existed. I say go for it.
On 2009-11-13, at 12:59 AM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I noticed that we didn't mention previous alphas of 3.0 on the Maven
> site. How do we want to go about that with alpha-3?
>
> To attract more testers, I think we should have this alpha listed in
> the download section. E.g. some structure like
>
> * Stable Releases
> 2.2.1
> 2.1.0
> 2.0.10
> * Alpha/Beta Releases
> 3.0-alpha-3
> * Previous Releases
>
> WDYT?
>
>
> Benjamin
>
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Thanks,
Jason
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