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Posted to dev@struts.apache.org by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> on 2004/09/16 06:25:32 UTC
[VOTE] Struts 1.2.4 Quality
The Struts 1.2.4 test build has been available for a few days now. Once
you have had a chance to form an opinion on the quality of this build,
please respond to the following vote.
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Based on its quality, the Struts 1.2.4 build should be classified as:
[ ] Alpha
[ ] Beta
[ ] General Availability (GA)
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If you are voting for Alpha or Beta, please state your concerns with the
build as it is today.
Only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. However, all opinions
and feedback are welcome.
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Martin Cooper
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Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.4 Quality
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
> -----
> Based on its quality, the Struts 1.2.4 build should be classified as:
>
> [ ] Alpha
> [ ] Beta
> [X] General Availability (GA)
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So far, it's all good.
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From: "Martin Cooper" <ma...@apache.org>
To: <de...@struts.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 12:25 AM
Subject: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.4 Quality
> The Struts 1.2.4 test build has been available for a few days now. Once
> you have had a chance to form an opinion on the quality of this build,
> please respond to the following vote.
>
> -----
> Based on its quality, the Struts 1.2.4 build should be classified as:
>
> [ ] Alpha
> [ ] Beta
> [ ] General Availability (GA)
> -----
>
> If you are voting for Alpha or Beta, please state your concerns with the
> build as it is today.
>
> Only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. However, all opinions
> and feedback are welcome.
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
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Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.4 Quality
Posted by Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org>.
I tested my production application with the 1.2.4 build and everything
checks out which is quite encouraging as I tend to utilize a number of
Struts extension projects. I'm really looking forward to working 1.3.x
though, even if it requires Maven :)
Don
Martin Cooper wrote:
> The Struts 1.2.4 test build has been available for a few days now.
> Once you have had a chance to form an opinion on the quality of this
> build, please respond to the following vote.
>
> -----
> Based on its quality, the Struts 1.2.4 build should be classified as:
>
> [ ] Alpha
> [ ] Beta
> [X] General Availability (GA)
> -----
>
> If you are voting for Alpha or Beta, please state your concerns with
> the build as it is today.
>
> Only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. However, all
> opinions and feedback are welcome.
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
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Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.4 Quality
Posted by Nicolas De Loof <ni...@capgemini.com>.
> Based on its quality, the Struts 1.2.4 build should be classified as:
>
> [ ] Alpha
> [ ] Beta
> [X] General Availability (GA)
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Works for me with no troubles.
Nico.
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Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.4 Quality
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
I'm not using Struts in production myself right now, so I'm going to abstain from voting in favor of them that do. :)
I do still plan to help support the release once it is out.
As to the voting in general ...
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:09:18 -0500, Joe Germuska wrote:
>�I wouldn't veto GA, but I'm not ready to say that I think this
>�release is GA either.
A release is a majority vote. It can't be blocked by a veto. If there are 3 +1s and more (binding) +1s than -1s, the vote passes. (So, as of now, the vote passes. By convention, we wait 72 hours before taking action on a vote, so that people have a chance to weigh in.)
Any PMC Member can unilaterally veto changes to the codebase and documentation on technical grounds (consensus vote), but most everything else is a (political) majority vote. No one person can block a release.
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:09:18 -0500, Joe Germuska wrote:
>�I vote "beta", because I haven't had (and won't have) time to test
>�it, and I see no reason to rush to call it GA. �
:) Then you probably shouldn't vote it beta, either. :)
> I thought the whole
>�point of the new releasing scheme was to allow us to not have to
>�cut a new release if beta testing truly demonstrated release
>�quality.
As I understand it, the point of the new releasing scheme is to
* avoid re-tagging and re-rolling the final beta in a series, if it is otherwise ready to go.
* reduce the need to "freeze" the repository for any longer than absolutely necessary.
Aside from all that, a *huge* problem for Struts is that we keep making GA releases "triggers" for other events.
* We decided not to transfer the repository to SVN until after we had put a 1.2.x GA release to bed.
* Until we have a Struts 1.2.x GA, we're also holding the Struts Chain in abeyance, along with other proposed changes.
* Until we have a Struts under SVN, everyone is reluctant to move forward with reorganizing the project, so we don't have to release *everything* at once. (Ironic, this one, since the reorganization would simplify the releases that are preventing us from reorganizing.)
* Pending the reorganization, we have held off introducing new sub projects, like Struts Scripting.
So, you see, a 1.2.x GA is the first in a long line of dominoes -- bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
Of course, the biggest reason of all to bring out a GA release is that:
*** until we can stamp 1.2.x GA, over a year's worth Struts development is unavailable to thousands of teams that use Struts, but can't use anything but a GA. ***
Sad, but true.
We shouldn't stamp it GA unless it is GA. But, yes, it *is* urgent that we determine whether 1.2.4 is GA or not, so we can fix it and and roll it again, or let it go and move on.
-Ted.
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Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.4 Quality
Posted by Joe Germuska <Jo...@Germuska.com>.
I vote "beta", because I haven't had (and won't have) time to test
it, and I see no reason to rush to call it GA. I thought the whole
point of the new releasing scheme was to allow us to not have to cut
a new release if beta testing truly demonstrated release quality.
I wouldn't veto GA, but I'm not ready to say that I think this
release is GA either.
Joe
>>[ ] Alpha
>>[X] Beta
>>[ ] General Availability (GA)
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Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.4 Quality
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
My own vote...
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
> The Struts 1.2.4 test build has been available for a few days now. Once you
> have had a chance to form an opinion on the quality of this build, please
> respond to the following vote.
>
> -----
> Based on its quality, the Struts 1.2.4 build should be classified as:
>
> [ ] Alpha
> [ ] Beta
> [X] General Availability (GA)
> -----
>
> If you are voting for Alpha or Beta, please state your concerns with the
> build as it is today.
>
> Only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. However, all opinions and
> feedback are welcome.
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
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Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.4 Quality
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
> The Struts 1.2.4 test build has been available for a few days now. Once
> you have had a chance to form an opinion on the quality of this build,
> please respond to the following vote.
>
> -----
> Based on its quality, the Struts 1.2.4 build should be classified as:
>
> [ ] Alpha
> [ ] Beta
> [X ] General Availability (GA)
> -----
>
> If you are voting for Alpha or Beta, please state your concerns with the
> build as it is today.
>
> Only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. However, all opinions
> and feedback are welcome.
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
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Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.4 Quality
Posted by David Graham <gr...@yahoo.com>.
+1 to GA.
David
--- Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> The Struts 1.2.4 test build has been available for a few days now. Once
> you have had a chance to form an opinion on the quality of this build,
> please respond to the following vote.
>
> -----
> Based on its quality, the Struts 1.2.4 build should be classified as:
>
> [ ] Alpha
> [ ] Beta
> [X] General Availability (GA)
> -----
>
> If you are voting for Alpha or Beta, please state your concerns with the
>
> build as it is today.
>
> Only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. However, all opinions
> and feedback are welcome.
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
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