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Metadata centralized vs distributed
Hello guys,
First of all, sorry if this post is out there some where I didn't know
or I couldn't find, in this case please point me to the right place. I
have posted this issue on TortoiseSVN mailing list and a guy from
there point me to this place.
Here is the issue:
I have a working dir with tree of working files. Then I upload my
working dir to my web server and the .svn folder in the working dir
and its sub-folder has been uploaded along with the working dir. I
have been told to use the Export feature but I would not like it that
way, what I intended to upload is just my working dir without the
metadata (.svn things).
So I wonder why we don't centralize the metadata to i.e just 1 folder
at the first place of the working dir instead of distributed over the
tree of the working dir?
Any reply would be appreciated.
Regards,
Tuan Nguyen
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Re: Metadata centralized vs distributed
Posted by Dave Lawrence <dl...@ad-holdings.co.uk>.
Tuan Nguyen wrote:
> I mean directly upload my working dir using file explorer without using Export.
Well that's a bit of a contradiction. Have you seen this?
http://tortoisesvn.net/most-forgotten-feature
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RE: Metadata centralized vs distributed
Posted by Bob Archer <Bo...@amsi.com>.
Or you could use Tortoise which lets you do the export command from file
explorer... if it is the command line that you are afraid of.
BOb
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> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:38 AM
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> Cc: JeremyP; Bob Archer; users@subversion.tigris.org
> Subject: Re: Metadata centralized vs distributed
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>
> On 19 Dec 2008, at 04:04, Tuan Nguyen wrote:
>
> > I mean directly upload my working dir using file explorer without
> > using Export.
>
> Why not svn export onto your local PC and then upload that using file
> explorer. Yes, it's one extra step but it imposes good discipline in
> that you'll never accidentally upload changes in your working copy
> that haven't been committed yet.
>
> Other than that, your question doesn't really make a lot of sense.
> You're saying "how do I do svn export without using svn export?"
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Bob Archer <Bo...@amsi.com>
> > wrote:
> >>> have been told to use the Export feature but I would not like it
> >>> that
> >>> way, what I intended to upload is just my working dir without the
> >>> metadata (.svn things).
> >>
> >> I'm confused. Copying a working directory without the .svn "things"
> >> is
> >> exactly what export does.
> >>
> >> BOb
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Re: Metadata centralized vs distributed
Posted by JeremyP <je...@jeremyp.net>.
On 19 Dec 2008, at 04:04, Tuan Nguyen wrote:
> I mean directly upload my working dir using file explorer without
> using Export.
Why not svn export onto your local PC and then upload that using file
explorer. Yes, it's one extra step but it imposes good discipline in
that you'll never accidentally upload changes in your working copy
that haven't been committed yet.
Other than that, your question doesn't really make a lot of sense.
You're saying "how do I do svn export without using svn export?"
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Bob Archer <Bo...@amsi.com>
> wrote:
>>> have been told to use the Export feature but I would not like it
>>> that
>>> way, what I intended to upload is just my working dir without the
>>> metadata (.svn things).
>>
>> I'm confused. Copying a working directory without the .svn "things"
>> is
>> exactly what export does.
>>
>> BOb
>>
>>
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Re: Metadata centralized vs distributed
Posted by JeremyP <je...@jeremyp.net>.
On 19 Dec 2008, at 04:04, Tuan Nguyen wrote:
> I mean directly upload my working dir using file explorer without
> using Export.
Why not svn export onto your local PC and then upload that using file
explorer. Yes, it's one extra step but it imposes good discipline in
that you'll never accidentally upload changes in your working copy
that haven't been committed yet.
Other than that, your question doesn't really make a lot of sense.
You're saying "how do I do svn export without using svn export?"
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Bob Archer <Bo...@amsi.com>
> wrote:
>>> have been told to use the Export feature but I would not like it
>>> that
>>> way, what I intended to upload is just my working dir without the
>>> metadata (.svn things).
>>
>> I'm confused. Copying a working directory without the .svn "things"
>> is
>> exactly what export does.
>>
>> BOb
>>
>>
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Re: Metadata centralized vs distributed
Posted by Tuan Nguyen <tu...@gmail.com>.
I mean directly upload my working dir using file explorer without using Export.
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Bob Archer <Bo...@amsi.com> wrote:
>> have been told to use the Export feature but I would not like it that
>> way, what I intended to upload is just my working dir without the
>> metadata (.svn things).
>
> I'm confused. Copying a working directory without the .svn "things" is
> exactly what export does.
>
> BOb
>
>
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RE: Metadata centralized vs distributed
Posted by Bob Archer <Bo...@amsi.com>.
> have been told to use the Export feature but I would not like it that
> way, what I intended to upload is just my working dir without the
> metadata (.svn things).
I'm confused. Copying a working directory without the .svn "things" is
exactly what export does.
BOb
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Re: Metadata centralized vs distributed
Posted by Tuan Nguyen <tu...@gmail.com>.
Hello eg,
Thanks. The links you pointed are exactly what we got here. I appreciated.
Regards,
Tuan
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 6:06 AM, eg <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...
>>
>> It is planned to be done sometime in the future. A date/version has
>> not been decided yet that I've seen.
>>
>
> It is one of the things that will come about as part of the WC-NG
> development work being done, according to:
>
> http://subversion.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=462&dsMessageId=986056
>
> or the design docs at:
> http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/notes/wc-ng-design
>
>
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Re: Metadata centralized vs distributed
Posted by eg <eg...@gmail.com>.
...
>
> It is planned to be done sometime in the future. A date/version has
> not been decided yet that I've seen.
>
It is one of the things that will come about as part of the WC-NG
development work being done, according to:
http://subversion.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=462&dsMessageId=986056
or the design docs at:
http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/notes/wc-ng-design
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Re: Metadata centralized vs distributed
Posted by Tuan Nguyen <tu...@gmail.com>.
Hello Andy,
Thank you for your reply.
This mean that it could be done. Nice to hear that.
Regards,
Tuan
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Andy Levy <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 09:09, Tuan Nguyen <tu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello guys,
>>
>> First of all, sorry if this post is out there some where I didn't know
>> or I couldn't find, in this case please point me to the right place. I
>> have posted this issue on TortoiseSVN mailing list and a guy from
>> there point me to this place.
>>
>> Here is the issue:
>> I have a working dir with tree of working files. Then I upload my
>> working dir to my web server and the .svn folder in the working dir
>> and its sub-folder has been uploaded along with the working dir. I
>> have been told to use the Export feature but I would not like it that
>> way, what I intended to upload is just my working dir without the
>> metadata (.svn things).
>> So I wonder why we don't centralize the metadata to i.e just 1 folder
>> at the first place of the working dir instead of distributed over the
>> tree of the working dir?
>>
>> Any reply would be appreciated.
>
> It is planned to be done sometime in the future. A date/version has
> not been decided yet that I've seen.
>
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Re: Metadata centralized vs distributed
Posted by Andy Levy <an...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 09:09, Tuan Nguyen <tu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
> First of all, sorry if this post is out there some where I didn't know
> or I couldn't find, in this case please point me to the right place. I
> have posted this issue on TortoiseSVN mailing list and a guy from
> there point me to this place.
>
> Here is the issue:
> I have a working dir with tree of working files. Then I upload my
> working dir to my web server and the .svn folder in the working dir
> and its sub-folder has been uploaded along with the working dir. I
> have been told to use the Export feature but I would not like it that
> way, what I intended to upload is just my working dir without the
> metadata (.svn things).
> So I wonder why we don't centralize the metadata to i.e just 1 folder
> at the first place of the working dir instead of distributed over the
> tree of the working dir?
>
> Any reply would be appreciated.
It is planned to be done sometime in the future. A date/version has
not been decided yet that I've seen.
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Re: Metadata centralized vs distributed
Posted by Tuan Nguyen <tu...@gmail.com>.
Hello Erik,
Thank you for your reply.
> It's a much desired new feature.
That's great! Nice to hear.
> Since you make it sound so easy: wanna have a go at it?
I don't understand what you mean. Please explain more.
Regards,
Tuan
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Erik Huelsmann <eh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Tuan Nguyen <tu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello guys,
>>
>> First of all, sorry if this post is out there some where I didn't know
>> or I couldn't find, in this case please point me to the right place. I
>> have posted this issue on TortoiseSVN mailing list and a guy from
>> there point me to this place.
>>
>> Here is the issue:
>> I have a working dir with tree of working files. Then I upload my
>> working dir to my web server and the .svn folder in the working dir
>> and its sub-folder has been uploaded along with the working dir. I
>> have been told to use the Export feature but I would not like it that
>> way, what I intended to upload is just my working dir without the
>> metadata (.svn things).
>> So I wonder why we don't centralize the metadata to i.e just 1 folder
>> at the first place of the working dir instead of distributed over the
>> tree of the working dir?
>
> It's a much desired new feature.
>
> Since you make it sound so easy: wanna have a go at it?
>
> Bye,
>
> Erik.
>
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Re: Metadata centralized vs distributed
Posted by Erik Huelsmann <eh...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Tuan Nguyen <tu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
> First of all, sorry if this post is out there some where I didn't know
> or I couldn't find, in this case please point me to the right place. I
> have posted this issue on TortoiseSVN mailing list and a guy from
> there point me to this place.
>
> Here is the issue:
> I have a working dir with tree of working files. Then I upload my
> working dir to my web server and the .svn folder in the working dir
> and its sub-folder has been uploaded along with the working dir. I
> have been told to use the Export feature but I would not like it that
> way, what I intended to upload is just my working dir without the
> metadata (.svn things).
> So I wonder why we don't centralize the metadata to i.e just 1 folder
> at the first place of the working dir instead of distributed over the
> tree of the working dir?
It's a much desired new feature.
Since you make it sound so easy: wanna have a go at it?
Bye,
Erik.
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Re: Metadata centralized vs distributed
Posted by Kenneth Goldman <kg...@us.ibm.com>.
Tuan Nguyen <tu...@gmail.com> wrote on 12/17/2008 09:09:58 AM:
> I have a working dir with tree of working files. Then I upload my
> working dir to my web server and the .svn folder in the working dir
> and its sub-folder has been uploaded along with the working dir. I
> have been told to use the Export feature but I would not like it that
> way, what I intended to upload is just my working dir without the
> metadata (.svn things).
I used to do that, but there are a few nice things about export:
1 - You get exactly what you need without temporary files, object
files, logs, and all the other extra data sitting in your working
directory.
2 - When you export and try to build, it will be quickly obvious
if you forgot to add and commit something to the repository.
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