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Posted to dev@cxf.apache.org by Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net> on 2010/06/05 22:12:44 UTC
Discussion: Cleanup of Wiki Navigation
Hi all,
I think the Wiki Navigation of CXF has become a bit large. On my
notebook (1600x900) it is not possible to see the whole navigation
without scrolling.
We currently have 38 lines of text (Headers and Links). My proposal
below will only be 29 lines. I could not check if it will then fit the
screen but it will surely help.
So what do you think?
Greetings
Christian
-----
h3. [Apache CXF|Index]
- [Home|Index]
- [Download]
- [People]
- [Project Status]
- [Roadmap]
- [Special Thanks]
h3. Users
- [User's Guide|http://cxf.apache.org/docs/index.html]
- [Support]
- [FAQ]
- [Resources and Articles]
h3. Developers
- [Architecture Guide|http://cxf.apache.org/docs/cxf-architecture.html]
- [Source Repository]
- [Building]
- [Testing-Debugging]
- [Coding Guidelines]
- [Getting Involved]
- [Release Management]
h3. Subprojects
- [Distributed OSGi]
- [XJC Utils]
- [Build Utils]
h3. ASF
- [How Apache Works|http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html]
- [Foundation|http://www.apache.org/foundation/]
- [Sponsor Apache|http://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html]
- [Thanks|http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html]
------
Explanation of Changes:
Reordered developers section to be in the order a new developer will
probably do stuff.
Deleted:
Moved below support:
Mailing lists
Issues
Moved to User´s Guide
- [2.1 Migration Guide]
- [2.2 Migration Guide]
- [2.3 Migration Guide]
Moved to developers or user´s guide:
h3. API Documentation (Javadoc)
- [Latest|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest/]
- [Latest 2.1.x|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest-2.1.x/]
- [Latest 2.0.x|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest-2.0.x/]
Moved to building
- [Setting up Eclipse]
--
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http://www.liquid-reality.de
Re: Discussion: Cleanup of Wiki Navigation
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
Christian,
Did the stuff that is marked "Moved to User´s Guide" ever actually get moved?
I don't see them there.
Thanks!
Dan
On Monday 07 June 2010 12:50:55 pm Daniel Kulp wrote:
> I like all the changes EXCEPT the removal of the Mailing Lists. I really
> don't consider the mailing lists as a "support" thing as, at Apache, the
> mailing lists are a very important part of the entire community and is the
> primary way for people to be involved with the community. I would
> definitely prefer that link stays. I'm +1 for the rest of it though. :-)
>
> Dan
>
> On Saturday 05 June 2010 4:12:44 pm Christian Schneider wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I think the Wiki Navigation of CXF has become a bit large. On my
> > notebook (1600x900) it is not possible to see the whole navigation
> > without scrolling.
> > We currently have 38 lines of text (Headers and Links). My proposal
> > below will only be 29 lines. I could not check if it will then fit the
> > screen but it will surely help.
> >
> > So what do you think?
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Christian
> >
> > -----
> >
> > h3. [Apache CXF|Index]
> >
> > - [Home|Index]
> > - [Download]
> > - [People]
> > - [Project Status]
> > - [Roadmap]
> > - [Special Thanks]
> >
> > h3. Users
> >
> > - [User's Guide|http://cxf.apache.org/docs/index.html]
> > - [Support]
> > - [FAQ]
> > - [Resources and Articles]
> >
> > h3. Developers
> >
> > - [Architecture Guide|http://cxf.apache.org/docs/cxf-architecture.html]
> > - [Source Repository]
> > - [Building]
> > - [Testing-Debugging]
> > - [Coding Guidelines]
> > - [Getting Involved]
> > - [Release Management]
> >
> > h3. Subprojects
> >
> > - [Distributed OSGi]
> > - [XJC Utils]
> > - [Build Utils]
> >
> > h3. ASF
> >
> > - [How Apache Works|http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html]
> > - [Foundation|http://www.apache.org/foundation/]
> > - [Sponsor Apache|http://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html]
> > - [Thanks|http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html]
> >
> > ------
> > Explanation of Changes:
> >
> > Reordered developers section to be in the order a new developer will
> > probably do stuff.
> >
> > Deleted:
> >
> > Moved below support:
> > Mailing lists
> > Issues
> >
> > Moved to User´s Guide
> > - [2.1 Migration Guide]
> > - [2.2 Migration Guide]
> > - [2.3 Migration Guide]
> >
> > Moved to developers or user´s guide:
> > h3. API Documentation (Javadoc)
> >
> > - [Latest|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest/]
> > - [Latest 2.1.x|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest-2.1.x/]
> > - [Latest 2.0.x|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest-2.0.x/]
> >
> > Moved to building
> > - [Setting up Eclipse]
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
Re: Discussion: Cleanup of Wiki Navigation
Posted by Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>.
Well done!
Christian Schneider wrote:
>
> I have now changed the Navigation in the Wiki. Like Dan and you proposed
> I have restored the Mailing List and Jira Links.
>
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Re: Discussion: Cleanup of Wiki Navigation
Posted by Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net>.
I have now changed the Navigation in the Wiki. Like Dan and you proposed
I have restored the Mailing List and Jira Links.
See: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CXF/Navigation
Greetings
Christian
Am 07.06.2010 23:18, schrieb Glen Mazza:
> Perhaps a few items can be removed from Developers (placed under subtopics),
> as a solid majority of CXF users will not be developing CXF so not as many
> top-level links are necessary. Having too many links there may also confuse
> people as they mistake "Developers" as Java coders using CXF instead of Java
> coders coding CXF directly.
>
> Agreed with Dan on the mailing lists, but also with the issues, I think that
> should remain a top-level item as well--it's not something you want people
> hunting for. Projects that keep the issue tracker listed at the top level
> also emphasize that they care very much about bug tracking.
>
> Glen
>
>
> dkulp wrote:
>
>>
>> I like all the changes EXCEPT the removal of the Mailing Lists. I
>> really
>> don't consider the mailing lists as a "support" thing as, at Apache, the
>> mailing lists are a very important part of the entire community and is the
>> primary way for people to be involved with the community. I would
>> definitely prefer that link stays. I'm +1 for the rest of it though.
>> :-)
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday 05 June 2010 4:12:44 pm Christian Schneider wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I think the Wiki Navigation of CXF has become a bit large. On my
>>> notebook (1600x900) it is not possible to see the whole navigation
>>> without scrolling.
>>> We currently have 38 lines of text (Headers and Links). My proposal
>>> below will only be 29 lines. I could not check if it will then fit the
>>> screen but it will surely help.
>>>
>>> So what do you think?
>>>
>>> Greetings
>>>
>>> Christian
>>>
>>> -----
>>>
>>> h3. [Apache CXF|Index]
>>>
>>> - [Home|Index]
>>> - [Download]
>>> - [People]
>>> - [Project Status]
>>> - [Roadmap]
>>> - [Special Thanks]
>>>
>>> h3. Users
>>>
>>> - [User's Guide|http://cxf.apache.org/docs/index.html]
>>> - [Support]
>>> - [FAQ]
>>> - [Resources and Articles]
>>>
>>> h3. Developers
>>>
>>> - [Architecture Guide|http://cxf.apache.org/docs/cxf-architecture.html]
>>> - [Source Repository]
>>> - [Building]
>>> - [Testing-Debugging]
>>> - [Coding Guidelines]
>>> - [Getting Involved]
>>> - [Release Management]
>>>
>>> h3. Subprojects
>>>
>>> - [Distributed OSGi]
>>> - [XJC Utils]
>>> - [Build Utils]
>>>
>>> h3. ASF
>>>
>>> - [How Apache Works|http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html]
>>> - [Foundation|http://www.apache.org/foundation/]
>>> - [Sponsor Apache|http://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html]
>>> - [Thanks|http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html]
>>>
>>> ------
>>> Explanation of Changes:
>>>
>>> Reordered developers section to be in the order a new developer will
>>> probably do stuff.
>>>
>>> Deleted:
>>>
>>> Moved below support:
>>> Mailing lists
>>> Issues
>>>
>>> Moved to User´s Guide
>>> - [2.1 Migration Guide]
>>> - [2.2 Migration Guide]
>>> - [2.3 Migration Guide]
>>>
>>> Moved to developers or user´s guide:
>>> h3. API Documentation (Javadoc)
>>>
>>> - [Latest|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest/]
>>> - [Latest 2.1.x|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest-2.1.x/]
>>> - [Latest 2.0.x|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest-2.0.x/]
>>>
>>> Moved to building
>>> - [Setting up Eclipse]
>>>
>> --
>> Daniel Kulp
>> dkulp@apache.org
>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>>
>>
>>
>
--
----
http://www.liquid-reality.de
Re: Discussion: Cleanup of Wiki Navigation
Posted by Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>.
Perhaps a few items can be removed from Developers (placed under subtopics),
as a solid majority of CXF users will not be developing CXF so not as many
top-level links are necessary. Having too many links there may also confuse
people as they mistake "Developers" as Java coders using CXF instead of Java
coders coding CXF directly.
Agreed with Dan on the mailing lists, but also with the issues, I think that
should remain a top-level item as well--it's not something you want people
hunting for. Projects that keep the issue tracker listed at the top level
also emphasize that they care very much about bug tracking.
Glen
dkulp wrote:
>
>
> I like all the changes EXCEPT the removal of the Mailing Lists. I
> really
> don't consider the mailing lists as a "support" thing as, at Apache, the
> mailing lists are a very important part of the entire community and is the
> primary way for people to be involved with the community. I would
> definitely prefer that link stays. I'm +1 for the rest of it though.
> :-)
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Saturday 05 June 2010 4:12:44 pm Christian Schneider wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I think the Wiki Navigation of CXF has become a bit large. On my
>> notebook (1600x900) it is not possible to see the whole navigation
>> without scrolling.
>> We currently have 38 lines of text (Headers and Links). My proposal
>> below will only be 29 lines. I could not check if it will then fit the
>> screen but it will surely help.
>>
>> So what do you think?
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Christian
>>
>> -----
>>
>> h3. [Apache CXF|Index]
>>
>> - [Home|Index]
>> - [Download]
>> - [People]
>> - [Project Status]
>> - [Roadmap]
>> - [Special Thanks]
>>
>> h3. Users
>>
>> - [User's Guide|http://cxf.apache.org/docs/index.html]
>> - [Support]
>> - [FAQ]
>> - [Resources and Articles]
>>
>> h3. Developers
>>
>> - [Architecture Guide|http://cxf.apache.org/docs/cxf-architecture.html]
>> - [Source Repository]
>> - [Building]
>> - [Testing-Debugging]
>> - [Coding Guidelines]
>> - [Getting Involved]
>> - [Release Management]
>>
>> h3. Subprojects
>>
>> - [Distributed OSGi]
>> - [XJC Utils]
>> - [Build Utils]
>>
>> h3. ASF
>>
>> - [How Apache Works|http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html]
>> - [Foundation|http://www.apache.org/foundation/]
>> - [Sponsor Apache|http://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html]
>> - [Thanks|http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html]
>>
>> ------
>> Explanation of Changes:
>>
>> Reordered developers section to be in the order a new developer will
>> probably do stuff.
>>
>> Deleted:
>>
>> Moved below support:
>> Mailing lists
>> Issues
>>
>> Moved to User´s Guide
>> - [2.1 Migration Guide]
>> - [2.2 Migration Guide]
>> - [2.3 Migration Guide]
>>
>> Moved to developers or user´s guide:
>> h3. API Documentation (Javadoc)
>>
>> - [Latest|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest/]
>> - [Latest 2.1.x|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest-2.1.x/]
>> - [Latest 2.0.x|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest-2.0.x/]
>>
>> Moved to building
>> - [Setting up Eclipse]
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
>
>
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Re: Discussion: Cleanup of Wiki Navigation
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
I like all the changes EXCEPT the removal of the Mailing Lists. I really
don't consider the mailing lists as a "support" thing as, at Apache, the
mailing lists are a very important part of the entire community and is the
primary way for people to be involved with the community. I would
definitely prefer that link stays. I'm +1 for the rest of it though. :-)
Dan
On Saturday 05 June 2010 4:12:44 pm Christian Schneider wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think the Wiki Navigation of CXF has become a bit large. On my
> notebook (1600x900) it is not possible to see the whole navigation
> without scrolling.
> We currently have 38 lines of text (Headers and Links). My proposal
> below will only be 29 lines. I could not check if it will then fit the
> screen but it will surely help.
>
> So what do you think?
>
> Greetings
>
> Christian
>
> -----
>
> h3. [Apache CXF|Index]
>
> - [Home|Index]
> - [Download]
> - [People]
> - [Project Status]
> - [Roadmap]
> - [Special Thanks]
>
> h3. Users
>
> - [User's Guide|http://cxf.apache.org/docs/index.html]
> - [Support]
> - [FAQ]
> - [Resources and Articles]
>
> h3. Developers
>
> - [Architecture Guide|http://cxf.apache.org/docs/cxf-architecture.html]
> - [Source Repository]
> - [Building]
> - [Testing-Debugging]
> - [Coding Guidelines]
> - [Getting Involved]
> - [Release Management]
>
> h3. Subprojects
>
> - [Distributed OSGi]
> - [XJC Utils]
> - [Build Utils]
>
> h3. ASF
>
> - [How Apache Works|http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html]
> - [Foundation|http://www.apache.org/foundation/]
> - [Sponsor Apache|http://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html]
> - [Thanks|http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html]
>
> ------
> Explanation of Changes:
>
> Reordered developers section to be in the order a new developer will
> probably do stuff.
>
> Deleted:
>
> Moved below support:
> Mailing lists
> Issues
>
> Moved to User´s Guide
> - [2.1 Migration Guide]
> - [2.2 Migration Guide]
> - [2.3 Migration Guide]
>
> Moved to developers or user´s guide:
> h3. API Documentation (Javadoc)
>
> - [Latest|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest/]
> - [Latest 2.1.x|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest-2.1.x/]
> - [Latest 2.0.x|http://cxf.apache.org/javadoc/latest-2.0.x/]
>
> Moved to building
> - [Setting up Eclipse]
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog