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Posted to issues@openoffice.apache.org by bu...@apache.org on 2013/09/24 08:39:58 UTC

[Bug 123336] New: False wording in the UI

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123336

            Bug ID: 123336
        Issue Type: DEFECT
           Summary: False wording in the UI
           Product: Writer
           Version: 4.0.1-dev
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: ui
          Assignee: issues@openoffice.apache.org
          Reporter: josef.latt@gmx.net
                CC: issues@openoffice.apache.org

The expression 'Horizontal Ruler' in menu 'Insert'  isn't correct as this
allows you to insert different lines.

The correct term should be 'Horizontal Line...'

Datei:
officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI.po

Orte:
WriterCommands.xcu#..WriterCommands.UserInterface.Commands..uno_InsertGraphicRuler.Label.value.text

This concerns also the dialog title, the help and the theme in the gallery.


AOO401m5(Build:9714)  -  Rev. 1524958
2013-09-20 11:54 - Linux x86_64

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[Issue 123336] Inconsistent / false wording in UI and Help

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123336

Edwin Sharp <el...@apache.org> changed:

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             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |CONFIRMED
             Latest|---                         |4.1-dev
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     Ever confirmed|0                           |1
           Severity|normal                      |minor

--- Comment #8 from Edwin Sharp <el...@apache.org> ---
Confirmed with
AOO410m15(Build:9761)  -  Rev. 1583666
2014-04-01 13:50 - Linux x86_64
Debian

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[Bug 123336] False wording in the UI

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123336

Edwin Sharp <el...@mail-page.com> changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Edwin Sharp <el...@mail-page.com> ---
Confirmed with Rev. 1525015 Win 7.

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[Issue 123336] Inconsistent / false wording in UI and Help

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123336

--- Comment #10 from jolatt <jo...@gmx.net> ---
In Comment 9 the first entry under UI must not be considered in this issue.
It's in fact a ruler not a line.

Thanks

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[Bug 123336] Inconsistent / false wording in UI and Help

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123336

Joe Smith <je...@martnet.com> changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Joe Smith <je...@martnet.com> ---
The typesetting term is "rule". A horizontal ruler is a dead king.

Insert > Horizontal line, or even "horizontal border", would be more accurate
and more widely understood.

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[Bug 123336] False wording in the UI

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123336

jolatt <jo...@gmx.net> changed:

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[Bug 123336] Inconsistent / false wording in UI and Help

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123336

--- Comment #4 from jolatt <jo...@gmx.net> ---
These kind of lines are definitely no ruler, as ruler has always to do with
measuring.

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[Bug 123336] Inconsistent / false wording in UI and Help

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123336

Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> changed:

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                 CC|                            |rainerbielefeld_ooo_qa@biel
                   |                            |efeldundbuss.de
            Summary|False wording in the UI     |Inconsistent  / false
                   |                            |wording in UI and Help
     Ever confirmed|1                           |0

--- Comment #3 from Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> ---
Effect already reproducible  with server installation of  " AOO 4.0.0-Dev  –
English UI / German locale [AOO400m1(Build:9700) - Rev. 1457992 - Rev.1457606]"
on German WIN7 Home Premium (64bit)", own separate user profile. But I am not
sure whether this is a bug, to me it seems to be an intended to distinguish
these special "Horizontal Ruler lines" from other (graphic) lines. But also see
"Bug 65673 - [Pt-Br] "Régua Horizontal" should be renamed to "Linha
Horizontal""
But also see "Bug 98473 - Online help about "Insert horizontal rule": Incorrect
wording"

And indeed we have several problems, we will have to discuss any of them.

English UI
----------
Consistent in 3.1.1, Menu Item "Horizontal Ruler ..." has help texts with
"Horizontal Ruler" Headings. Menu Item already in OOo 1.1.5 had this name, but
Help heading you reach from Insert Horizontal Ruler-Dialog was "Insert
Horizontal Line " in 1.1.5
In 3.1.1 I reach Help "Insert Horizontal Ruler" and a related topic "Inserting
a Horizontal Line " for the same is linked at the bottom of the Help page, IMHO
not a good solution.
Starting with OOo 3.3.0, for menu item  'Insert -> Horizontal Ruler ...' Help
heading now is "Horizontal Rule" under Heading "Insert", and link in sub
heading "Horizontal Rule" leads to "Insert Horizontal Rule"
This still is the same with current AOO410m1(Build:9750)  -  Rev. 1523968

German UI
---------
OOo 2.0.2: menu item "Horizontale Linie einfügen" leads to Help "Horizontales
Lineal einfügen", I think that's wrong, and in various Help texts we have some
hodgepodge with "Lineal" and "Linie"

AOO 3.4.0 is consistent, everywhere "Horizontale Linie"
AOO 3.4.1 as 3.4.0

AOO 4.0.1 messed up, now menu item "Horizontale Linie" has changed to
"Horizontale Lineal". Lineal is wrong in German, and even if "Lineal" would be
correct, wording should have to be "Horizontales Lineal". Help still is ok with
"Horizontale Linie einfügen"
AOO400m3(Build:9702)  -  Rev. 1513120 Rev.1513120: Still the same.

>From time to time I see similar mess with 1 English word needs different German
words in different environment 8or vice versa). 

What's to do
------------
1) decision concerning English wording. My English skills are not sufficient.
2) Cleanup in translations.

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[Bug 123336] Inconsistent / false wording in UI and Help

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123336

Casey Doran <cd...@my.fit.edu> changed:

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[Issue 123336] Inconsistent / false wording in UI and Help

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123336

--- Comment #7 from jolatt <jo...@gmx.net> ---
German UI and Help completely changed in Pootle.

Same should be done in the English UI and Help.

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[Issue 123336] Inconsistent / false wording in UI and Help

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123336

jolatt <jo...@gmx.net> changed:

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[Issue 123336] Inconsistent / false wording in UI and Help

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123336

--- Comment #9 from jolatt <jo...@gmx.net> ---
Further locations found with Pootle (File / location) where ruler/rulers should
be replaced by line/lines:

UI:
officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI.po
WriterCommands.xcu#..WriterCommands.UserInterface.Commands..uno_Ruler.Label.value.text

svx/source/gallery2.po
galtheme.src#RID_GALLERYSTR_THEME_RULERS.string.text

sw/source/core/undo.po
undo.src#STR_INSERT_RULER.string.text

sw/source/ui/shells.po
shells.src#MSG_NO_RULER.infobox.text


Help:
helpcontent2/source/text/swriter/01.p
04210000.xhp#par_id3149806.5.help.text

helpcontent2/source/text/swriter/guide.po
insert_line.xhp#par_id3150231.79.help.text
insert_line.xhp#bm_id3151178.help.text
insert_line.xhp#par_id2165898.help.text
insert_line.xhp#hd_id707113.help.text
insert_line.xhp#par_id2582476.help.text

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[Bug 123336] Inconsistent / false wording in UI and Help

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
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sdgilmor@iupui.edu changed:

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--- Comment #6 from sdgilmor@iupui.edu ---
Window 7, AOO 4.0.1, Build: 9714 - Rev. 1524958

Confirmed. jolatt and Joe Smith make valid points, it would be better described
as a line.

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[Bug 123336] False wording in the UI

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123336

--- Comment #1 from jolatt <jo...@gmx.net> ---
The German UI has also the false wording. Is corrected in Pootle.

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