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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> on 2011/09/14 03:44:46 UTC
What do Chukwa, Droids, Hama, Hise, Lucene.Net have in common?
None of them has a useful description on this page:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
Podling mentors, have at it, please! People (even ones not me) really
do look at this page and wonder what the next big thing at the ASF will be.
- Shane
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Re: What do Chukwa, Droids, Hama, Hise, Lucene.Net have in common?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 15 September 2011 02:26, Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
> Hmmm, if we're going to build something, why not build it right and ensure
> podlings have DOAP files before they graduate to boot?
>
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/projects/$podling.doap
> (or some such)
>
> WDYT?
Good idea, but it would still be useful to have a summary csv or XML
file containing details of ALL podlings, past and present.
The Incubator needs to keep track of graduated podlings too.
> We should be able to generate plenty of stuff on the incubator site from
> normal DOAP with maybe(?) one more extension; and then when projects
> graduate they just move the DOAP to projects.a.o
Perhaps copy, rather than move, so Incubator still has the data it needs.
> - Shane, an old XML guy, long on ideas but short on code
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Re: What do Chukwa, Droids, Hama, Hise, Lucene.Net have in common?
Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
Hmmm, if we're going to build something, why not build it right and
ensure podlings have DOAP files before they graduate to boot?
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/projects/$podling.doap
(or some such)
WDYT?
We should be able to generate plenty of stuff on the incubator site from
normal DOAP with maybe(?) one more extension; and then when projects
graduate they just move the DOAP to projects.a.o
- Shane, an old XML guy, long on ideas but short on code
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Re: What do Chukwa, Droids, Hama, Hise, Lucene.Net have in common?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 14 September 2011 19:18, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> It would be nice to have one canonical location for some of the information
>> that needs to be updated. It seems that podlings have several different
>> locations that need to be updated when one thing changes.
I don't think that's a big problem with the description because it
should rarely change.
>>
>
> In the olden days there was a single status.txt file in the root of
> the podlings svn, i quite liked that as it did make it easy to keep
> things in sync. Could we do something like that again, perhaps using
> xml or doap to capture everything we need?
The description is not really status information and should not change
often; also I don't think it would be possible to propagate it to all
the places that need it.
Most of the status information is held in the podling status pages
[1]; in theory the information therein could be used to create the
Incubated (sic) Projects page [2] and the RHS Projects menu [3].
Failing that, it would be nice to be able to maintain [2] and [3] from
a single file that listed all Incubator projects in an easy-to-use
format.
i.e. rather than update [2], one could update an alphabetical list of
projects containing the basic status fields.
In fact the project summary would be useful anyway, so perhaps one
could start with it, and then work out how to maintain it from the
podling status pages.
S.
P.S. Anyone fancy creating an index podling?!
[1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/<podling>.html
[2] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html
[3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/stylesheets/project.xml
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Re: What do Chukwa, Droids, Hama, Hise, Lucene.Net have in common?
Posted by ant elder <an...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org> wrote:
> It would be nice to have one canonical location for some of the information
> that needs to be updated. It seems that podlings have several different
> locations that need to be updated when one thing changes.
>
In the olden days there was a single status.txt file in the root of
the podlings svn, i quite liked that as it did make it easy to keep
things in sync. Could we do something like that again, perhaps using
xml or doap to capture everything we need?
...ant
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Re: What do Chukwa, Droids, Hama, Hise, Lucene.Net have in common?
Posted by Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>.
On 09/14/2011 06:38 AM, sebb wrote:
> On 14 September 2011 03:08, David Crossley<cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Shane Curcuru wrote:
>>>
>>> None of them has a useful description on this page:
>>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
>>>
>>> Podling mentors, have at it, please! People (even ones not me) really
>>> do look at this page and wonder what the next big thing at the ASF will be.
>>
>> Thanks for bumping this issue. It is so important to
>> encourage potential contributors to find projects
>> to get involved with, and so that the Board/IPMC/ASF
>> knows what these projects are about.
>>
>> The podlings themselves should be editing this page.
>> All should develop and fine-tune their own concise description,
>> and use it here and as the preface to their Board report.
>
> Should also match the "Description" on the podling status page (e.g.
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/droids.html) and the summary
> description on the website (e.g. http://incubator.apache.org/droids/)
>
> Remember that trademarks must be used as adjectives, not nouns [1]
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html#markdesc
>
Updated Droids description to match the other ones. The description
needs to be reworked to follow the trademark rules.
It would be nice to have one canonical location for some of the
information that needs to be updated. It seems that podlings have
several different locations that need to be updated when one thing changes.
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Re: What do Chukwa, Droids, Hama, Hise, Lucene.Net have in common?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 14 September 2011 03:08, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> Shane Curcuru wrote:
>>
>> None of them has a useful description on this page:
>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
>>
>> Podling mentors, have at it, please! People (even ones not me) really
>> do look at this page and wonder what the next big thing at the ASF will be.
>
> Thanks for bumping this issue. It is so important to
> encourage potential contributors to find projects
> to get involved with, and so that the Board/IPMC/ASF
> knows what these projects are about.
>
> The podlings themselves should be editing this page.
> All should develop and fine-tune their own concise description,
> and use it here and as the preface to their Board report.
Should also match the "Description" on the podling status page (e.g.
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/droids.html) and the summary
description on the website (e.g. http://incubator.apache.org/droids/)
Remember that trademarks must be used as adjectives, not nouns [1]
[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html#markdesc
> While doing it, please ensure that the list of Mentors is
> up-to-date.
>
> -David
>
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Re: What do Chukwa, Droids, Hama, Hise, Lucene.Net have in common?
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Shane Curcuru wrote:
>
> None of them has a useful description on this page:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
>
> Podling mentors, have at it, please! People (even ones not me) really
> do look at this page and wonder what the next big thing at the ASF will be.
Thanks for bumping this issue. It is so important to
encourage potential contributors to find projects
to get involved with, and so that the Board/IPMC/ASF
knows what these projects are about.
The podlings themselves should be editing this page.
All should develop and fine-tune their own concise description,
and use it here and as the preface to their Board report.
While doing it, please ensure that the list of Mentors is
up-to-date.
-David
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Re: What do Chukwa, Droids, Hama, Hise, Lucene.Net have in common?
Posted by "Edward J. Yoon" <ed...@apache.org>.
Oh, please ignore this. I've just committed this.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Edward J. Yoon <ed...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could anyone please commit this small patch?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Index: site-publish/projects/index.html
> ===================================================================
> --- site-publish/projects/index.html (revision 1170915)
> +++ site-publish/projects/index.html (working copy)
> @@ -332,9 +332,9 @@
> <td>
> <a href="../projects/hama.html">Hama</a>
> </td>
> - <td>Hama</td>
> + <td>Hama is a distributed computing framework based on BSP
> (Bulk Synchronous Parallel) computing techniques for massive
> scientific computations, e.g., matrix, graph and network
> algorithms.</td>
> <td>Incubator</td>
> - <td>Ian Holsman, Jeff Eastman, Brett Porter</td>
> + <td>Ian Holsman, Jeff Eastman, Tommaso Teofili, Steve Loughran</td>
> <td>2008-05-20</td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
>> None of them has a useful description on this page:
>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
>>
>> Podling mentors, have at it, please! People (even ones not me) really do
>> look at this page and wonder what the next big thing at the ASF will be.
>>
>> - Shane
>>
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>
>
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> @eddieyoon
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Re: What do Chukwa, Droids, Hama, Hise, Lucene.Net have in common?
Posted by "Edward J. Yoon" <ed...@apache.org>.
Hi,
Could anyone please commit this small patch?
Thanks.
Index: site-publish/projects/index.html
===================================================================
--- site-publish/projects/index.html (revision 1170915)
+++ site-publish/projects/index.html (working copy)
@@ -332,9 +332,9 @@
<td>
<a href="../projects/hama.html">Hama</a>
</td>
- <td>Hama</td>
+ <td>Hama is a distributed computing framework based on BSP
(Bulk Synchronous Parallel) computing techniques for massive
scientific computations, e.g., matrix, graph and network
algorithms.</td>
<td>Incubator</td>
- <td>Ian Holsman, Jeff Eastman, Brett Porter</td>
+ <td>Ian Holsman, Jeff Eastman, Tommaso Teofili, Steve Loughran</td>
<td>2008-05-20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
> None of them has a useful description on this page:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
>
> Podling mentors, have at it, please! People (even ones not me) really do
> look at this page and wonder what the next big thing at the ASF will be.
>
> - Shane
>
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Re: What do Chukwa, Droids, Hama, Hise, Lucene.Net have in common?
Posted by Chris Douglas <cd...@apache.org>.
Updated Chukwa description. -C
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
> None of them has a useful description on this page:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
>
> Podling mentors, have at it, please! People (even ones not me) really do
> look at this page and wonder what the next big thing at the ASF will be.
>
> - Shane
>
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