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Things you don't want to know about Ukraine??
I go started down a rabbit hole this am when my husband told me Putin was
contemplating bombing the US Embassey in Ukraine. A vacant building at this
point but internet searches kept popping up about the embassy pulling
docs/information about some bio labs housed in Ukraine that were/are
jointly run by Ukraine/US and wholly funded by the US!
Dare I say if this is true, the US has a MUCH LARGER stake in the future of
Ukraine.
You can do your own search or enlist your son to help.
I am more freaked out than ever. And if Biden knows all this -- which I'm
sure he does -- he needs to get his ass in gear!
We live in WAY WAY WAY BEYOND BULLSHIT times!
https://www.newsweek.com/us-biological-weapons-ukraine-labs-germ-warfare-1685956
Re: Things you don't want to know about Ukraine??
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
> On Mar 22, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Jose R R <jo...@metztli.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:37 AM Max Merbald <ma...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Matthias,
>>
>> the blatant fake news José was spreading definitely required an answer.
>> Such junk could not remain unanswered, and never mind which list this is.
>
> Unlike you, troll of the 'Ministry of Truth' (Orwell), I do not engage
> in disinformation. Your stunted intellect and short sighted stupidity
> --
> and that of the gullible masses like you -- is the facilitator for
> manufacturing fascist US/UK Anglo- European world wars -- while their
> propaganda whores blame those on others with a 24/7 demonization of
> the targeted individual(s) in a maliciously created narrative to exalt
> the 'virtues' and 'moral superiority of the West'.
>
> Oh, Moderator, what kind of tone is that, 'STOP OR YOU WILL BE
> BANNED'!? I will save you the trouble of 'banning' me. I will
> unsubscribe.
I am currently reading an anthology of George Orwell called All Art is Propaganda. It’s very interesting. Mostly Orwell was concerned about orthodoxy on all extremes.
But that’s not the point raised here. This mailing list is for discussions about developing Apache OpenOffice. Our mission is about the public good in the most expansive way. Here we aren’t judging “isms”. That can be done elsewhere. Thank you very much.
>>
>> You seemed only to worry about the list and not about someone spreading
>> fake news. Sorry to say but that seems narrow-minded to me.
“Fake news” is propaganda. Determining whose is often difficult. A suite of Apache Software was used for analyzing the Panama Papers. Don’t judge our interests by what we are willing to discuss.
All the best,
Dave
>>
>>
>> Am 21.03.2022 um 16:27 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi Max,
>>>
>>> Am 21.03.22 um 16:11 schrieb Max Merbald:
>>>> @ Matthias: Going by your reaction, you don't seem to be very concerned
>>>> about the war in Ukraine. Well, I am. It might well turn into WW3. You
>>>> should be concerned, too!
>>> I am very concerned, but this is a developer mailing list for OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> So PLEASE stop this discussion here!
>>>
>>> There are enough places where you (and others) can express their thoughts.
>>>
>>>
>>
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> Cheers, Fernando!
>
> Best Professional Regards.
>
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Re: Things you don't want to know about Ukraine??
Posted by Jose R R <jo...@metztli.com>.
On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:37 AM Max Merbald <ma...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Matthias,
>
> the blatant fake news José was spreading definitely required an answer.
> Such junk could not remain unanswered, and never mind which list this is.
Unlike you, troll of the 'Ministry of Truth' (Orwell), I do not engage
in disinformation. Your stunted intellect and short sighted stupidity
--
and that of the gullible masses like you -- is the facilitator for
manufacturing fascist US/UK Anglo- European world wars -- while their
propaganda whores blame those on others with a 24/7 demonization of
the targeted individual(s) in a maliciously created narrative to exalt
the 'virtues' and 'moral superiority of the West'.
Oh, Moderator, what kind of tone is that, 'STOP OR YOU WILL BE
BANNED'!? I will save you the trouble of 'banning' me. I will
unsubscribe.
>
> You seemed only to worry about the list and not about someone spreading
> fake news. Sorry to say but that seems narrow-minded to me.
>
>
> Am 21.03.2022 um 16:27 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> > Hi Max,
> >
> > Am 21.03.22 um 16:11 schrieb Max Merbald:
> >> @ Matthias: Going by your reaction, you don't seem to be very concerned
> >> about the war in Ukraine. Well, I am. It might well turn into WW3. You
> >> should be concerned, too!
> > I am very concerned, but this is a developer mailing list for OpenOffice.
> >
> > So PLEASE stop this discussion here!
> >
> > There are enough places where you (and others) can express their thoughts.
> >
> >
>
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Cheers, Fernando!
Best Professional Regards.
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Re: Things you don't want to know about Ukraine??
Posted by Max Merbald <ma...@gmx.de>.
Hi Matthias,
the blatant fake news José was spreading definitely required an answer.
Such junk could not remain unanswered, and never mind which list this is.
You seemed only to worry about the list and not about someone spreading
fake news. Sorry to say but that seems narrow-minded to me.
Am 21.03.2022 um 16:27 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Hi Max,
>
> Am 21.03.22 um 16:11 schrieb Max Merbald:
>> @ Matthias: Going by your reaction, you don't seem to be very concerned
>> about the war in Ukraine. Well, I am. It might well turn into WW3. You
>> should be concerned, too!
> I am very concerned, but this is a developer mailing list for OpenOffice.
>
> So PLEASE stop this discussion here!
>
> There are enough places where you (and others) can express their thoughts.
>
>
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Re: Things you don't want to know about Ukraine??
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Hi Max,
Am 21.03.22 um 16:11 schrieb Max Merbald:
>
> @ Matthias: Going by your reaction, you don't seem to be very concerned
> about the war in Ukraine. Well, I am. It might well turn into WW3. You
> should be concerned, too!
I am very concerned, but this is a developer mailing list for OpenOffice.
So PLEASE stop this discussion here!
There are enough places where you (and others) can express their thoughts.
Re: Things you don't want to know about Ukraine??
Posted by Max Merbald <ma...@gmx.de>.
José, why are you spreading fake news???
it's not the West who censors everything, it's Russia. The Russian
people are not supposed to know how ruthless their President bombs
civilians, women and children in Ukraine. Nor are the governments in
Europe and North America fascists. Putin, though, is a brutal dictator.
He suppresses freedom of speech in Russia, puts people in jail who speak
their opinion and stated this bloody war in Ukraine!
My mother said the other day, take a big box, drill a few air holes into
them, put Putin and Trump (and a few others like Bolsonaro, Assad, Kim
and Erdogan alsongside with them) in, and then, accidentially, during an
airlift, drop the box over the Pacific Ocean.
@ Matthias: Going by your reaction, you don't seem to be very concerned
about the war in Ukraine. Well, I am. It might well turn into WW3. You
should be concerned, too!
Am 20.03.2022 um 22:00 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> STOP that!
>
> This is a developer list for OpenOffice.
>
> Am 20.03.22 um 21:58 schrieb Jose R R:
>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 9:10 AM Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I go started down a rabbit hole this am when my husband told me Putin was
>>> contemplating bombing the US Embassey in Ukraine. A vacant building at this
>>> point but internet searches kept popping up about the embassy pulling
>>> docs/information about some bio labs housed in Ukraine that were/are
>>> jointly run by Ukraine/US and wholly funded by the US!
>>> Dare I say if this is true, the US has a MUCH LARGER stake in the future of
>>> Ukraine.
>> That is why all the Russian media is being censored by Europe, Canada,
>> US/UK; the fascist rulers of the latter pseudo-democracies do not want
>> their disinfo narrative to be challenged at all. Locally, Telegram
>> channels of RT.com, SputnikNews, are being censored. And Google (will
>> this email reach you ;-) , 'META', Twitter, GitHub, etc. are complicit
>> in this unprecedented censorship campaign.
>>
>> But, indeed, even State Dept. Victoria 'Fuck the EU' Kagan Nuland,
>> confirmed the fact the US is funding biolabs in Ukraine.
>> < https://metztli.blog/media/blogs/calli/On-NATO-Expansion/biological-labs-ukraine.mp4?mtime=1647293994
>> At the same time the 'exceptional nation' was collecting Slavic --
>> more specifically, Russian DNA. Why?
>> "Only one main thing is important for Nazism -- internationally
>> speaking. That is, that nations or states that are allowed to do
>> anything are the 'master races' [modern euphemism is 'the First
>> World,' i.e., genocidal thieves and plunderers] and then you have the
>> minor nations who are the slaves [modern euphemism is 'the Third
>> World,' i.e., displaced, surviving victims of plunder and theft by the
>> former]. For the Europeans, the slaves were/are 'Indians' and
>> Africans; for Hitler, they were Jews (not any anymore ;-), Gypsies,
>> and Slavs."
>> Fascism: A History.
>> < https://rtd.rt.com/films/fascism-a-history >
>>
>> Obviously, the US' 'exceptionalism' places its fascist rulers on the
>> same level as Napoleon, Hirohito, and Hitler. They are targeting
>> Russia and its people for annihilation by using Zionist -ruled Ukraine
>> and its Aidar, Tornado, Azov, Nazi batallions as proxies for a wider
>> conflict as there are ~ 175,000 thousand US/UK NATO forces surrounding
>> Russia... just ready for the spark of a CIA orchestrated false flag
>> op.
>>
>>> You can do your own search or enlist your son to help.
>>> I am more freaked out than ever. And if Biden knows all this -- which I'm
>>> sure he does -- he needs to get his ass in gear!
>>>
>>> We live in WAY WAY WAY BEYOND BULLSHIT times!
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.newsweek.com/us-biological-weapons-ukraine-labs-germ-warfare-1685956
>> Best Professional Regards.
>>
>> P.S. I was recently censored by 'progressive' Daily Kos site because I
>> do not fit the demonization of Putin narrative disseminated by the
>> West's propaganda.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jose R R
>> http://metztli.it
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Re: Things you don't want to know about Ukraine??
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
STOP that!
This is a developer list for OpenOffice.
Am 20.03.22 um 21:58 schrieb Jose R R:
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 9:10 AM Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I go started down a rabbit hole this am when my husband told me Putin was
>> contemplating bombing the US Embassey in Ukraine. A vacant building at this
>> point but internet searches kept popping up about the embassy pulling
>> docs/information about some bio labs housed in Ukraine that were/are
>> jointly run by Ukraine/US and wholly funded by the US!
>> Dare I say if this is true, the US has a MUCH LARGER stake in the future of
>> Ukraine.
> That is why all the Russian media is being censored by Europe, Canada,
> US/UK; the fascist rulers of the latter pseudo-democracies do not want
> their disinfo narrative to be challenged at all. Locally, Telegram
> channels of RT.com, SputnikNews, are being censored. And Google (will
> this email reach you ;-) , 'META', Twitter, GitHub, etc. are complicit
> in this unprecedented censorship campaign.
>
> But, indeed, even State Dept. Victoria 'Fuck the EU' Kagan Nuland,
> confirmed the fact the US is funding biolabs in Ukraine.
> < https://metztli.blog/media/blogs/calli/On-NATO-Expansion/biological-labs-ukraine.mp4?mtime=1647293994
> At the same time the 'exceptional nation' was collecting Slavic --
> more specifically, Russian DNA. Why?
> "Only one main thing is important for Nazism -- internationally
> speaking. That is, that nations or states that are allowed to do
> anything are the 'master races' [modern euphemism is 'the First
> World,' i.e., genocidal thieves and plunderers] and then you have the
> minor nations who are the slaves [modern euphemism is 'the Third
> World,' i.e., displaced, surviving victims of plunder and theft by the
> former]. For the Europeans, the slaves were/are 'Indians' and
> Africans; for Hitler, they were Jews (not any anymore ;-), Gypsies,
> and Slavs."
> Fascism: A History.
> < https://rtd.rt.com/films/fascism-a-history >
>
> Obviously, the US' 'exceptionalism' places its fascist rulers on the
> same level as Napoleon, Hirohito, and Hitler. They are targeting
> Russia and its people for annihilation by using Zionist -ruled Ukraine
> and its Aidar, Tornado, Azov, Nazi batallions as proxies for a wider
> conflict as there are ~ 175,000 thousand US/UK NATO forces surrounding
> Russia... just ready for the spark of a CIA orchestrated false flag
> op.
>
>> You can do your own search or enlist your son to help.
>> I am more freaked out than ever. And if Biden knows all this -- which I'm
>> sure he does -- he needs to get his ass in gear!
>>
>> We live in WAY WAY WAY BEYOND BULLSHIT times!
>>
>>
>> https://www.newsweek.com/us-biological-weapons-ukraine-labs-germ-warfare-1685956
> Best Professional Regards.
>
> P.S. I was recently censored by 'progressive' Daily Kos site because I
> do not fit the demonization of Putin narrative disseminated by the
> West's propaganda.
>
>
> --
> Jose R R
> http://metztli.it
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Re: Things you don't want to know about Ukraine??
Posted by Jose R R <jo...@metztli.com>.
On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 9:10 AM Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I go started down a rabbit hole this am when my husband told me Putin was
> contemplating bombing the US Embassey in Ukraine. A vacant building at this
> point but internet searches kept popping up about the embassy pulling
> docs/information about some bio labs housed in Ukraine that were/are
> jointly run by Ukraine/US and wholly funded by the US!
> Dare I say if this is true, the US has a MUCH LARGER stake in the future of
> Ukraine.
That is why all the Russian media is being censored by Europe, Canada,
US/UK; the fascist rulers of the latter pseudo-democracies do not want
their disinfo narrative to be challenged at all. Locally, Telegram
channels of RT.com, SputnikNews, are being censored. And Google (will
this email reach you ;-) , 'META', Twitter, GitHub, etc. are complicit
in this unprecedented censorship campaign.
But, indeed, even State Dept. Victoria 'Fuck the EU' Kagan Nuland,
confirmed the fact the US is funding biolabs in Ukraine.
< https://metztli.blog/media/blogs/calli/On-NATO-Expansion/biological-labs-ukraine.mp4?mtime=1647293994
>
At the same time the 'exceptional nation' was collecting Slavic --
more specifically, Russian DNA. Why?
"Only one main thing is important for Nazism -- internationally
speaking. That is, that nations or states that are allowed to do
anything are the 'master races' [modern euphemism is 'the First
World,' i.e., genocidal thieves and plunderers] and then you have the
minor nations who are the slaves [modern euphemism is 'the Third
World,' i.e., displaced, surviving victims of plunder and theft by the
former]. For the Europeans, the slaves were/are 'Indians' and
Africans; for Hitler, they were Jews (not any anymore ;-), Gypsies,
and Slavs."
Fascism: A History.
< https://rtd.rt.com/films/fascism-a-history >
Obviously, the US' 'exceptionalism' places its fascist rulers on the
same level as Napoleon, Hirohito, and Hitler. They are targeting
Russia and its people for annihilation by using Zionist -ruled Ukraine
and its Aidar, Tornado, Azov, Nazi batallions as proxies for a wider
conflict as there are ~ 175,000 thousand US/UK NATO forces surrounding
Russia... just ready for the spark of a CIA orchestrated false flag
op.
> You can do your own search or enlist your son to help.
> I am more freaked out than ever. And if Biden knows all this -- which I'm
> sure he does -- he needs to get his ass in gear!
>
> We live in WAY WAY WAY BEYOND BULLSHIT times!
>
>
> https://www.newsweek.com/us-biological-weapons-ukraine-labs-germ-warfare-1685956
Best Professional Regards.
P.S. I was recently censored by 'progressive' Daily Kos site because I
do not fit the demonization of Putin narrative disseminated by the
West's propaganda.
--
Jose R R
http://metztli.it
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Re: Things you don't want to know about Ukraine??
Posted by Moderator <bm...@apache.org>.
Please do not add any more comments to this thread.
Already stated the original post was sent to this list by mistake and
the original poster has apologized for accidentally posting an intended
private message to a public list.
It is not a case of caring one way or another about any world events, as
Matthias pointed out this is a mailing list for discussion about
software development, not an open forum for the airing of political views.
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