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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com> on 2003/09/03 23:34:28 UTC
[collections] 3.0 release (1)
I am volunteering to arrange the 3.0 release of [collections], which is long
overdue.
I am currently:
- finishing the ObservedCollection code
- writing release notes
- trying to separate the primitive collections code
- rename SequencedSet to OrderedSet
- reviewing the bugzilla entries
Other tasks:
- write OrderedMap decorator (Hen)
- review Bag interface where it deviates from Collection
- see if MultiMap code on bugzilla can be integrated
Henri has volunteered to do the actual final builds and release to
Minatour/Mirrors, but (unless someone objects) I will manage the release.
Stephen
Re: [collections] Observed
Posted by Michael Heuer <he...@acm.org>.
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> How useful are these convenience methods? I added them, then removed them.
> Trouble is that not every handler will necessarily use listeners (although
> most will).
It seems to me that the Handler is more an artifact of designing
flexibility into the implementation than something that a client (in most
cases) wants to concern themselves with.
You raise a good exception though.
michael
>
> Synchronized - collection is always synchronized
> Bounded - collection is always bounded
> Predicated - collection is always predicated
> Unmodifiable - collection can not be modified
>
> Observed - collection is always observed
> Observable - collection can be observed
>
> Naming is dubious, but I guess Observable might be marginally better as the
> observer is optional. Any other views?
>
> Stephen
>
>
> From: "Michael Heuer" <he...@acm.org>
> > Could you add methods to ObservableCollection and friends that forward to
> > the ModificationHandler,
> >
> > public void addPreModificationListener(Object l)
> > {
> > getHandler().addPreModificationListener(l);
> > }
> >
> > public void removePreModificationListener(Object l)
> > public void addPostModificationListener(Object l)
> > public void removePostModificationListener(Object l)
> >
> > etc.
> >
> > Also, before release, does anyone else want to weigh in on Observable vs.
> > Observed?
> >
> > michael
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> >
> > > We still have too many issues for a freeze this weekend, so I'll extend
> the
> > > deadline by two weeks at this point, although I shan't be surprised if
> it
> > > slips again. The code is improving greatly however, so this is good.
> > >
> > > Still to do:
> > > - ObservedMap
> > > - write observedXxx() methods for CollectionUtils et al
> > > - write release notes
> > > - tidy up the Bugzilla entries
> > > - MultiMap changes??
> > > - Bag interface changes??
> > > - OrderedMap decorator?
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Stephen Colebourne" <sc...@btopenworld.com>
> > > To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:34 PM
> > > Subject: [collections] 3.0 release (1)
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am volunteering to arrange the 3.0 release of [collections], which
> is
> > > long
> > > > overdue.
> > > >
> > > > I am currently:
> > > > - finishing the ObservedCollection code
> > > > - writing release notes
> > > > - trying to separate the primitive collections code
> > > > - rename SequencedSet to OrderedSet
> > > > - reviewing the bugzilla entries
> > > >
> > > > Other tasks:
> > > > - write OrderedMap decorator (Hen)
> > > > - review Bag interface where it deviates from Collection
> > > > - see if MultiMap code on bugzilla can be integrated
> > > >
> > > > Henri has volunteered to do the actual final builds and release to
> > > > Minatour/Mirrors, but (unless someone objects) I will manage the
> release.
> > > >
> > > > Stephen
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [collections] Observed
Posted by Michael Heuer <he...@acm.org>.
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> How useful are these convenience methods? I added them, then removed them.
> Trouble is that not every handler will necessarily use listeners (although
> most will).
It seems to me that the Handler is more an artifact of designing
flexibility into the implementation than something that a client (in most
cases) wants to concern themselves with.
You raise a good exception though.
michael
>
> Synchronized - collection is always synchronized
> Bounded - collection is always bounded
> Predicated - collection is always predicated
> Unmodifiable - collection can not be modified
>
> Observed - collection is always observed
> Observable - collection can be observed
>
> Naming is dubious, but I guess Observable might be marginally better as the
> observer is optional. Any other views?
>
> Stephen
>
>
> From: "Michael Heuer" <he...@acm.org>
> > Could you add methods to ObservableCollection and friends that forward to
> > the ModificationHandler,
> >
> > public void addPreModificationListener(Object l)
> > {
> > getHandler().addPreModificationListener(l);
> > }
> >
> > public void removePreModificationListener(Object l)
> > public void addPostModificationListener(Object l)
> > public void removePostModificationListener(Object l)
> >
> > etc.
> >
> > Also, before release, does anyone else want to weigh in on Observable vs.
> > Observed?
> >
> > michael
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> >
> > > We still have too many issues for a freeze this weekend, so I'll extend
> the
> > > deadline by two weeks at this point, although I shan't be surprised if
> it
> > > slips again. The code is improving greatly however, so this is good.
> > >
> > > Still to do:
> > > - ObservedMap
> > > - write observedXxx() methods for CollectionUtils et al
> > > - write release notes
> > > - tidy up the Bugzilla entries
> > > - MultiMap changes??
> > > - Bag interface changes??
> > > - OrderedMap decorator?
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Stephen Colebourne" <sc...@btopenworld.com>
> > > To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:34 PM
> > > Subject: [collections] 3.0 release (1)
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am volunteering to arrange the 3.0 release of [collections], which
> is
> > > long
> > > > overdue.
> > > >
> > > > I am currently:
> > > > - finishing the ObservedCollection code
> > > > - writing release notes
> > > > - trying to separate the primitive collections code
> > > > - rename SequencedSet to OrderedSet
> > > > - reviewing the bugzilla entries
> > > >
> > > > Other tasks:
> > > > - write OrderedMap decorator (Hen)
> > > > - review Bag interface where it deviates from Collection
> > > > - see if MultiMap code on bugzilla can be integrated
> > > >
> > > > Henri has volunteered to do the actual final builds and release to
> > > > Minatour/Mirrors, but (unless someone objects) I will manage the
> release.
> > > >
> > > > Stephen
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
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Re: [collections] Observed
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
How useful are these convenience methods? I added them, then removed them.
Trouble is that not every handler will necessarily use listeners (although
most will).
Synchronized - collection is always synchronized
Bounded - collection is always bounded
Predicated - collection is always predicated
Unmodifiable - collection can not be modified
Observed - collection is always observed
Observable - collection can be observed
Naming is dubious, but I guess Observable might be marginally better as the
observer is optional. Any other views?
Stephen
From: "Michael Heuer" <he...@acm.org>
> Could you add methods to ObservableCollection and friends that forward to
> the ModificationHandler,
>
> public void addPreModificationListener(Object l)
> {
> getHandler().addPreModificationListener(l);
> }
>
> public void removePreModificationListener(Object l)
> public void addPostModificationListener(Object l)
> public void removePostModificationListener(Object l)
>
> etc.
>
> Also, before release, does anyone else want to weigh in on Observable vs.
> Observed?
>
> michael
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
>
> > We still have too many issues for a freeze this weekend, so I'll extend
the
> > deadline by two weeks at this point, although I shan't be surprised if
it
> > slips again. The code is improving greatly however, so this is good.
> >
> > Still to do:
> > - ObservedMap
> > - write observedXxx() methods for CollectionUtils et al
> > - write release notes
> > - tidy up the Bugzilla entries
> > - MultiMap changes??
> > - Bag interface changes??
> > - OrderedMap decorator?
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stephen Colebourne" <sc...@btopenworld.com>
> > To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:34 PM
> > Subject: [collections] 3.0 release (1)
> >
> >
> > > I am volunteering to arrange the 3.0 release of [collections], which
is
> > long
> > > overdue.
> > >
> > > I am currently:
> > > - finishing the ObservedCollection code
> > > - writing release notes
> > > - trying to separate the primitive collections code
> > > - rename SequencedSet to OrderedSet
> > > - reviewing the bugzilla entries
> > >
> > > Other tasks:
> > > - write OrderedMap decorator (Hen)
> > > - review Bag interface where it deviates from Collection
> > > - see if MultiMap code on bugzilla can be integrated
> > >
> > > Henri has volunteered to do the actual final builds and release to
> > > Minatour/Mirrors, but (unless someone objects) I will manage the
release.
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
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Re: [collections] Observed
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
How useful are these convenience methods? I added them, then removed them.
Trouble is that not every handler will necessarily use listeners (although
most will).
Synchronized - collection is always synchronized
Bounded - collection is always bounded
Predicated - collection is always predicated
Unmodifiable - collection can not be modified
Observed - collection is always observed
Observable - collection can be observed
Naming is dubious, but I guess Observable might be marginally better as the
observer is optional. Any other views?
Stephen
From: "Michael Heuer" <he...@acm.org>
> Could you add methods to ObservableCollection and friends that forward to
> the ModificationHandler,
>
> public void addPreModificationListener(Object l)
> {
> getHandler().addPreModificationListener(l);
> }
>
> public void removePreModificationListener(Object l)
> public void addPostModificationListener(Object l)
> public void removePostModificationListener(Object l)
>
> etc.
>
> Also, before release, does anyone else want to weigh in on Observable vs.
> Observed?
>
> michael
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
>
> > We still have too many issues for a freeze this weekend, so I'll extend
the
> > deadline by two weeks at this point, although I shan't be surprised if
it
> > slips again. The code is improving greatly however, so this is good.
> >
> > Still to do:
> > - ObservedMap
> > - write observedXxx() methods for CollectionUtils et al
> > - write release notes
> > - tidy up the Bugzilla entries
> > - MultiMap changes??
> > - Bag interface changes??
> > - OrderedMap decorator?
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stephen Colebourne" <sc...@btopenworld.com>
> > To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:34 PM
> > Subject: [collections] 3.0 release (1)
> >
> >
> > > I am volunteering to arrange the 3.0 release of [collections], which
is
> > long
> > > overdue.
> > >
> > > I am currently:
> > > - finishing the ObservedCollection code
> > > - writing release notes
> > > - trying to separate the primitive collections code
> > > - rename SequencedSet to OrderedSet
> > > - reviewing the bugzilla entries
> > >
> > > Other tasks:
> > > - write OrderedMap decorator (Hen)
> > > - review Bag interface where it deviates from Collection
> > > - see if MultiMap code on bugzilla can be integrated
> > >
> > > Henri has volunteered to do the actual final builds and release to
> > > Minatour/Mirrors, but (unless someone objects) I will manage the
release.
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >
> >
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Re: [collections] 3.0 release (1)
Posted by Michael Heuer <he...@acm.org>.
Hello Stephen,
Could you add methods to ObservableCollection and friends that forward to
the ModificationHandler,
public void addPreModificationListener(Object l)
{
getHandler().addPreModificationListener(l);
}
public void removePreModificationListener(Object l)
public void addPostModificationListener(Object l)
public void removePostModificationListener(Object l)
etc.
Also, before release, does anyone else want to weigh in on Observable vs.
Observed?
michael
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> We still have too many issues for a freeze this weekend, so I'll extend the
> deadline by two weeks at this point, although I shan't be surprised if it
> slips again. The code is improving greatly however, so this is good.
>
> Still to do:
> - ObservedMap
> - write observedXxx() methods for CollectionUtils et al
> - write release notes
> - tidy up the Bugzilla entries
> - MultiMap changes??
> - Bag interface changes??
> - OrderedMap decorator?
>
> Stephen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Colebourne" <sc...@btopenworld.com>
> To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:34 PM
> Subject: [collections] 3.0 release (1)
>
>
> > I am volunteering to arrange the 3.0 release of [collections], which is
> long
> > overdue.
> >
> > I am currently:
> > - finishing the ObservedCollection code
> > - writing release notes
> > - trying to separate the primitive collections code
> > - rename SequencedSet to OrderedSet
> > - reviewing the bugzilla entries
> >
> > Other tasks:
> > - write OrderedMap decorator (Hen)
> > - review Bag interface where it deviates from Collection
> > - see if MultiMap code on bugzilla can be integrated
> >
> > Henri has volunteered to do the actual final builds and release to
> > Minatour/Mirrors, but (unless someone objects) I will manage the release.
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
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Re: [collections] 3.0 release (1)
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> - OrderedMap decorator?
Have begun work on this. I'll go ahead and check in where I am at the
moment, with some nice big comments saying it's unfinished, but passing
unit tests. [mainly because the unit tests are very basic at the moment].
Hen
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Re: [collections] 3.0 release (1)
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> - OrderedMap decorator?
Have begun work on this. I'll go ahead and check in where I am at the
moment, with some nice big comments saying it's unfinished, but passing
unit tests. [mainly because the unit tests are very basic at the moment].
Hen
Re: [collections] 3.0 release (1)
Posted by Michael Heuer <he...@acm.org>.
Hello Stephen,
Could you add methods to ObservableCollection and friends that forward to
the ModificationHandler,
public void addPreModificationListener(Object l)
{
getHandler().addPreModificationListener(l);
}
public void removePreModificationListener(Object l)
public void addPostModificationListener(Object l)
public void removePostModificationListener(Object l)
etc.
Also, before release, does anyone else want to weigh in on Observable vs.
Observed?
michael
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> We still have too many issues for a freeze this weekend, so I'll extend the
> deadline by two weeks at this point, although I shan't be surprised if it
> slips again. The code is improving greatly however, so this is good.
>
> Still to do:
> - ObservedMap
> - write observedXxx() methods for CollectionUtils et al
> - write release notes
> - tidy up the Bugzilla entries
> - MultiMap changes??
> - Bag interface changes??
> - OrderedMap decorator?
>
> Stephen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Colebourne" <sc...@btopenworld.com>
> To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:34 PM
> Subject: [collections] 3.0 release (1)
>
>
> > I am volunteering to arrange the 3.0 release of [collections], which is
> long
> > overdue.
> >
> > I am currently:
> > - finishing the ObservedCollection code
> > - writing release notes
> > - trying to separate the primitive collections code
> > - rename SequencedSet to OrderedSet
> > - reviewing the bugzilla entries
> >
> > Other tasks:
> > - write OrderedMap decorator (Hen)
> > - review Bag interface where it deviates from Collection
> > - see if MultiMap code on bugzilla can be integrated
> >
> > Henri has volunteered to do the actual final builds and release to
> > Minatour/Mirrors, but (unless someone objects) I will manage the release.
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
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Re: [collections] 3.0 release (1)
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
We still have too many issues for a freeze this weekend, so I'll extend the
deadline by two weeks at this point, although I shan't be surprised if it
slips again. The code is improving greatly however, so this is good.
Still to do:
- ObservedMap
- write observedXxx() methods for CollectionUtils et al
- write release notes
- tidy up the Bugzilla entries
- MultiMap changes??
- Bag interface changes??
- OrderedMap decorator?
Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Colebourne" <sc...@btopenworld.com>
To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:34 PM
Subject: [collections] 3.0 release (1)
> I am volunteering to arrange the 3.0 release of [collections], which is
long
> overdue.
>
> I am currently:
> - finishing the ObservedCollection code
> - writing release notes
> - trying to separate the primitive collections code
> - rename SequencedSet to OrderedSet
> - reviewing the bugzilla entries
>
> Other tasks:
> - write OrderedMap decorator (Hen)
> - review Bag interface where it deviates from Collection
> - see if MultiMap code on bugzilla can be integrated
>
> Henri has volunteered to do the actual final builds and release to
> Minatour/Mirrors, but (unless someone objects) I will manage the release.
>
> Stephen
>
>
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Re: [collections] 3.0 release (1)
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
We still have too many issues for a freeze this weekend, so I'll extend the
deadline by two weeks at this point, although I shan't be surprised if it
slips again. The code is improving greatly however, so this is good.
Still to do:
- ObservedMap
- write observedXxx() methods for CollectionUtils et al
- write release notes
- tidy up the Bugzilla entries
- MultiMap changes??
- Bag interface changes??
- OrderedMap decorator?
Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Colebourne" <sc...@btopenworld.com>
To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:34 PM
Subject: [collections] 3.0 release (1)
> I am volunteering to arrange the 3.0 release of [collections], which is
long
> overdue.
>
> I am currently:
> - finishing the ObservedCollection code
> - writing release notes
> - trying to separate the primitive collections code
> - rename SequencedSet to OrderedSet
> - reviewing the bugzilla entries
>
> Other tasks:
> - write OrderedMap decorator (Hen)
> - review Bag interface where it deviates from Collection
> - see if MultiMap code on bugzilla can be integrated
>
> Henri has volunteered to do the actual final builds and release to
> Minatour/Mirrors, but (unless someone objects) I will manage the release.
>
> Stephen
>
>
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