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incubator report / podling status
HTrace's quarterly report is slightly overdue (due yesterday). I've pasted
a bare bones draft below based on the last report. Does anyone have
something to add?
We should have a discussion about HTrace's status. We were talking about
the possibility of graduation over a year ago. Do you think we need to grow
the community further before proposing graduation?
-----
HTrace is a tracing framework intended for use with distributed systems
written in java.
HTrace has been incubating since 2014-11-11.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Continue to grow the Apache HTrace community
2. Continue to explore projects integrating Apache HTrace
3. Continue to develop and release stable Apache HTrace incubating
artifacts
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
There are no issues requiring board attention at this time.
How has the community developed since the last report?
Mailing lists have been quiet.
How has the project developed since the last report?
Development has been quiet.
How would you assess the podling's maturity?
Please feel free to add your own commentary.
[ ] Initial setup
[ ] Working towards first release
[x] Community building
[ ] Nearing graduation
[ ] Other:
Date of last release:
2016-10-06
When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
2016-10-03
Re: incubator report / podling status
Posted by Stack <st...@duboce.net>.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:31 AM, Raam Rosh-Hai <ra...@findhotel.net> wrote:
> I will be giving a talk about using htrace to build the
> akka-streams-tracing library http://scalar-conf.com/ (Raam @ 14:30), It
> might help with community building and I would be happy to introduce
> specific things to that talk that the community finds relevant.
>
> I didn't put in githtub yet since there's still some work to be done,
> Tracing seems like a hot topic in the scala community so we might get more
> interest from that direction.
>
>
Sweet Raam. Post pointer to talk here after you are done?
Thanks,
S
> On 3 March 2017 at 17:21, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I posted the report to https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017 and
> > > signed off. Other mentors, please sign off as well.
> > >
> > >
> > Done
> >
> >
> >
> > > There has been some discussion in the Accumulo community about
> > contributing
> > > its span receiver back to HTrace. We know it works well, and that would
> > > make configuring and versioning it easier. I haven't had time to work
> on
> > > it, though, which is why I haven't brought it up. Would HTrace consider
> > > accepting an Accumulo span receiver, if we could find someone to work
> on
> > > it?
> > >
> > >
> > Yes. Makes sense. What is special about this receiver?
> >
> > St.Ack
> >
> >
> > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Colin McCabe <cm...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017, at 13:01, Stack wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > HTrace's quarterly report is slightly overdue (due yesterday).
> I've
> > > > pasted
> > > > > > a bare bones draft below based on the last report. Does anyone
> have
> > > > > > something to add?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you Billie. +1 on the report. It conveys that little has
> > > happened
> > > > > since our last report.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > We should have a discussion about HTrace's status. We were
> talking
> > > > about
> > > > > > the possibility of graduation over a year ago. Do you think we
> need
> > > to
> > > > grow
> > > > > > the community further before proposing graduation?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > We should. There has been little progress of late. Lets talk about
> > > this.
> > > > > Most of us seem to be off occupied on other stuff with little time
> > over
> > > > > for
> > > > > moving HTrace forward.
> > > > >
> > > > > St.Ack
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for speaking up, Billie and Stack. Agree it's been a little
> > > > quiet lately. I've been busy on Apache Kafka recently. There was
> some
> > > > stuff I wanted to push on the HTrace side but I didn't get a chance
> to
> > > > post it yet.
> > > >
> > > > Colin
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > HTrace is a tracing framework intended for use with distributed
> > > systems
> > > > > > written in java.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTrace has been incubating since 2014-11-11.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > > graduation:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Continue to grow the Apache HTrace community
> > > > > > 2. Continue to explore projects integrating Apache HTrace
> > > > > > 3. Continue to develop and release stable Apache HTrace
> > incubating
> > > > > > artifacts
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need
> to
> > be
> > > > > > aware of?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are no issues requiring board attention at this time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mailing lists have been quiet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Development has been quiet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [ ] Initial setup
> > > > > > [ ] Working towards first release
> > > > > > [x] Community building
> > > > > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > > > > [ ] Other:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Date of last release:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2016-10-06
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2016-10-03
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: incubator report / podling status
Posted by Raam Rosh-Hai <ra...@findhotel.net>.
I will be giving a talk about using htrace to build the
akka-streams-tracing library http://scalar-conf.com/ (Raam @ 14:30), It
might help with community building and I would be happy to introduce
specific things to that talk that the community finds relevant.
I didn't put in githtub yet since there's still some work to be done,
Tracing seems like a hot topic in the scala community so we might get more
interest from that direction.
On 3 March 2017 at 17:21, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I posted the report to https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017 and
> > signed off. Other mentors, please sign off as well.
> >
> >
> Done
>
>
>
> > There has been some discussion in the Accumulo community about
> contributing
> > its span receiver back to HTrace. We know it works well, and that would
> > make configuring and versioning it easier. I haven't had time to work on
> > it, though, which is why I haven't brought it up. Would HTrace consider
> > accepting an Accumulo span receiver, if we could find someone to work on
> > it?
> >
> >
> Yes. Makes sense. What is special about this receiver?
>
> St.Ack
>
>
> > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Colin McCabe <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017, at 13:01, Stack wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > HTrace's quarterly report is slightly overdue (due yesterday). I've
> > > pasted
> > > > > a bare bones draft below based on the last report. Does anyone have
> > > > > something to add?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you Billie. +1 on the report. It conveys that little has
> > happened
> > > > since our last report.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > We should have a discussion about HTrace's status. We were talking
> > > about
> > > > > the possibility of graduation over a year ago. Do you think we need
> > to
> > > grow
> > > > > the community further before proposing graduation?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > We should. There has been little progress of late. Lets talk about
> > this.
> > > > Most of us seem to be off occupied on other stuff with little time
> over
> > > > for
> > > > moving HTrace forward.
> > > >
> > > > St.Ack
> > >
> > > Thanks for speaking up, Billie and Stack. Agree it's been a little
> > > quiet lately. I've been busy on Apache Kafka recently. There was some
> > > stuff I wanted to push on the HTrace side but I didn't get a chance to
> > > post it yet.
> > >
> > > Colin
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > HTrace is a tracing framework intended for use with distributed
> > systems
> > > > > written in java.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTrace has been incubating since 2014-11-11.
> > > > >
> > > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > graduation:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Continue to grow the Apache HTrace community
> > > > > 2. Continue to explore projects integrating Apache HTrace
> > > > > 3. Continue to develop and release stable Apache HTrace
> incubating
> > > > > artifacts
> > > > >
> > > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to
> be
> > > > > aware of?
> > > > >
> > > > > There are no issues requiring board attention at this time.
> > > > >
> > > > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mailing lists have been quiet.
> > > > >
> > > > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > > > >
> > > > > Development has been quiet.
> > > > >
> > > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > > > >
> > > > > [ ] Initial setup
> > > > > [ ] Working towards first release
> > > > > [x] Community building
> > > > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > > > [ ] Other:
> > > > >
> > > > > Date of last release:
> > > > >
> > > > > 2016-10-06
> > > > >
> > > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2016-10-03
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: incubator report / podling status
Posted by Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Colin McCabe <cm...@fastmail.com>
wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017, at 10:56, Billie Rinaldi wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I posted the report to https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
> and
> > > > signed off. Other mentors, please sign off as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Done
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > There has been some discussion in the Accumulo community about
> > > contributing
> > > > its span receiver back to HTrace. We know it works well, and that
> would
> > > > make configuring and versioning it easier. I haven't had time to
> work on
> > > > it, though, which is why I haven't brought it up. Would HTrace
> consider
> > > > accepting an Accumulo span receiver, if we could find someone to
> work on
> > > > it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Yes. Makes sense. What is special about this receiver?
> > >
> >
> > Nearly all Apache Accumulo instances are configured to send traces to
> > themselves using this mechanism. There's a tracer process that spans are
> > sent to via Thrift, and the tracer inserts the spans into Accumulo. The
> > tracer location(s) are discovered via ZooKeeper. So, pretty normal?
> > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/tree/master/server/tracer
> /src/main/java/org/apache/accumulo/tracer
>
> Yeah, we should add that SpanReceiver to HTrace.
>
> >
> > When testing out HDFS and Accumulo tracing together, I found I had to add
> > a
> > configuration property that would optionally allow the receiver to drop
> > spans of length 0ms, as HDFS was generating a huge number of these. (I
> > realize dropping spans is not recommended, but I was still able to do
> > some
> > interpretation of parentless spans when the 0ms spans were missing.)
>
> This should be fixed in the latest HDFS. Unfortunately, the Hadoop 2.8
> release got eaten by a grue, but if you try Hadoop 3.0 alpha, it should
> be there. Incidentally, updating Accumulo to HTrace 4.x would be one of
> the best things we could do to help HTrace...
>
We've had a discussion about that. I think it will happen when we bump our
default Hadoop version to one that depends on HTrace 4. It will mean
dropping support for Accumulo+HDFS tracing for versions of Hadoop using
HTrace 3, but we decided that would be preferable to having a shim layer.
Another reason it would be nice to have the Accumulo receiver in HTrace.
>
> cheers,
> Colin
>
> >
> > Billie
> >
> >
> > >
> > > St.Ack
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Colin McCabe <cm...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017, at 13:01, Stack wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Billie Rinaldi <
> billie@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > HTrace's quarterly report is slightly overdue (due yesterday).
> I've
> > > > > pasted
> > > > > > > a bare bones draft below based on the last report. Does anyone
> have
> > > > > > > something to add?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you Billie. +1 on the report. It conveys that little has
> > > > happened
> > > > > > since our last report.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > We should have a discussion about HTrace's status. We were
> talking
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > the possibility of graduation over a year ago. Do you think we
> need
> > > > to
> > > > > grow
> > > > > > > the community further before proposing graduation?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > We should. There has been little progress of late. Lets talk
> about
> > > > this.
> > > > > > Most of us seem to be off occupied on other stuff with little
> time
> > > over
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > moving HTrace forward.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > St.Ack
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for speaking up, Billie and Stack. Agree it's been a little
> > > > > quiet lately. I've been busy on Apache Kafka recently. There was
> some
> > > > > stuff I wanted to push on the HTrace side but I didn't get a
> chance to
> > > > > post it yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > Colin
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > HTrace is a tracing framework intended for use with distributed
> > > > systems
> > > > > > > written in java.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HTrace has been incubating since 2014-11-11.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > > > graduation:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. Continue to grow the Apache HTrace community
> > > > > > > 2. Continue to explore projects integrating Apache HTrace
> > > > > > > 3. Continue to develop and release stable Apache HTrace
> > > incubating
> > > > > > > artifacts
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board
> wish/need to
> > > be
> > > > > > > aware of?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are no issues requiring board attention at this time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mailing lists have been quiet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Development has been quiet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > > > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [ ] Initial setup
> > > > > > > [ ] Working towards first release
> > > > > > > [x] Community building
> > > > > > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > > > > > [ ] Other:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date of last release:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2016-10-06
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2016-10-03
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
> --
> Colin McCabe
> cmccabe314@fastmail.com
>
Re: incubator report / podling status
Posted by Colin McCabe <cm...@fastmail.com>.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017, at 10:56, Billie Rinaldi wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I posted the report to https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017 and
> > > signed off. Other mentors, please sign off as well.
> > >
> > >
> > Done
> >
> >
> >
> > > There has been some discussion in the Accumulo community about
> > contributing
> > > its span receiver back to HTrace. We know it works well, and that would
> > > make configuring and versioning it easier. I haven't had time to work on
> > > it, though, which is why I haven't brought it up. Would HTrace consider
> > > accepting an Accumulo span receiver, if we could find someone to work on
> > > it?
> > >
> > >
> > Yes. Makes sense. What is special about this receiver?
> >
>
> Nearly all Apache Accumulo instances are configured to send traces to
> themselves using this mechanism. There's a tracer process that spans are
> sent to via Thrift, and the tracer inserts the spans into Accumulo. The
> tracer location(s) are discovered via ZooKeeper. So, pretty normal?
> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/tree/master/server/tracer/src/main/java/org/apache/accumulo/tracer
Yeah, we should add that SpanReceiver to HTrace.
>
> When testing out HDFS and Accumulo tracing together, I found I had to add
> a
> configuration property that would optionally allow the receiver to drop
> spans of length 0ms, as HDFS was generating a huge number of these. (I
> realize dropping spans is not recommended, but I was still able to do
> some
> interpretation of parentless spans when the 0ms spans were missing.)
This should be fixed in the latest HDFS. Unfortunately, the Hadoop 2.8
release got eaten by a grue, but if you try Hadoop 3.0 alpha, it should
be there. Incidentally, updating Accumulo to HTrace 4.x would be one of
the best things we could do to help HTrace...
cheers,
Colin
>
> Billie
>
>
> >
> > St.Ack
> >
> >
> > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Colin McCabe <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017, at 13:01, Stack wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > HTrace's quarterly report is slightly overdue (due yesterday). I've
> > > > pasted
> > > > > > a bare bones draft below based on the last report. Does anyone have
> > > > > > something to add?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you Billie. +1 on the report. It conveys that little has
> > > happened
> > > > > since our last report.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > We should have a discussion about HTrace's status. We were talking
> > > > about
> > > > > > the possibility of graduation over a year ago. Do you think we need
> > > to
> > > > grow
> > > > > > the community further before proposing graduation?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > We should. There has been little progress of late. Lets talk about
> > > this.
> > > > > Most of us seem to be off occupied on other stuff with little time
> > over
> > > > > for
> > > > > moving HTrace forward.
> > > > >
> > > > > St.Ack
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for speaking up, Billie and Stack. Agree it's been a little
> > > > quiet lately. I've been busy on Apache Kafka recently. There was some
> > > > stuff I wanted to push on the HTrace side but I didn't get a chance to
> > > > post it yet.
> > > >
> > > > Colin
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > HTrace is a tracing framework intended for use with distributed
> > > systems
> > > > > > written in java.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTrace has been incubating since 2014-11-11.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > > graduation:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Continue to grow the Apache HTrace community
> > > > > > 2. Continue to explore projects integrating Apache HTrace
> > > > > > 3. Continue to develop and release stable Apache HTrace
> > incubating
> > > > > > artifacts
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to
> > be
> > > > > > aware of?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are no issues requiring board attention at this time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mailing lists have been quiet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Development has been quiet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [ ] Initial setup
> > > > > > [ ] Working towards first release
> > > > > > [x] Community building
> > > > > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > > > > [ ] Other:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Date of last release:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2016-10-06
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2016-10-03
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
--
Colin McCabe
cmccabe314@fastmail.com
Re: incubator report / podling status
Posted by Raam Rosh-Hai <ra...@findhotel.net>.
Sure thing Stack
On 6 March 2017 at 19:56, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I posted the report to https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017 and
> > > signed off. Other mentors, please sign off as well.
> > >
> > >
> > Done
> >
> >
> >
> > > There has been some discussion in the Accumulo community about
> > contributing
> > > its span receiver back to HTrace. We know it works well, and that would
> > > make configuring and versioning it easier. I haven't had time to work
> on
> > > it, though, which is why I haven't brought it up. Would HTrace consider
> > > accepting an Accumulo span receiver, if we could find someone to work
> on
> > > it?
> > >
> > >
> > Yes. Makes sense. What is special about this receiver?
> >
>
> Nearly all Apache Accumulo instances are configured to send traces to
> themselves using this mechanism. There's a tracer process that spans are
> sent to via Thrift, and the tracer inserts the spans into Accumulo. The
> tracer location(s) are discovered via ZooKeeper. So, pretty normal?
> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/tree/master/server/
> tracer/src/main/java/org/apache/accumulo/tracer
>
> When testing out HDFS and Accumulo tracing together, I found I had to add a
> configuration property that would optionally allow the receiver to drop
> spans of length 0ms, as HDFS was generating a huge number of these. (I
> realize dropping spans is not recommended, but I was still able to do some
> interpretation of parentless spans when the 0ms spans were missing.)
>
> Billie
>
>
> >
> > St.Ack
> >
> >
> > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Colin McCabe <cm...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017, at 13:01, Stack wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > HTrace's quarterly report is slightly overdue (due yesterday).
> I've
> > > > pasted
> > > > > > a bare bones draft below based on the last report. Does anyone
> have
> > > > > > something to add?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you Billie. +1 on the report. It conveys that little has
> > > happened
> > > > > since our last report.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > We should have a discussion about HTrace's status. We were
> talking
> > > > about
> > > > > > the possibility of graduation over a year ago. Do you think we
> need
> > > to
> > > > grow
> > > > > > the community further before proposing graduation?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > We should. There has been little progress of late. Lets talk about
> > > this.
> > > > > Most of us seem to be off occupied on other stuff with little time
> > over
> > > > > for
> > > > > moving HTrace forward.
> > > > >
> > > > > St.Ack
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for speaking up, Billie and Stack. Agree it's been a little
> > > > quiet lately. I've been busy on Apache Kafka recently. There was
> some
> > > > stuff I wanted to push on the HTrace side but I didn't get a chance
> to
> > > > post it yet.
> > > >
> > > > Colin
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > HTrace is a tracing framework intended for use with distributed
> > > systems
> > > > > > written in java.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTrace has been incubating since 2014-11-11.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > > graduation:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Continue to grow the Apache HTrace community
> > > > > > 2. Continue to explore projects integrating Apache HTrace
> > > > > > 3. Continue to develop and release stable Apache HTrace
> > incubating
> > > > > > artifacts
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need
> to
> > be
> > > > > > aware of?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are no issues requiring board attention at this time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mailing lists have been quiet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Development has been quiet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [ ] Initial setup
> > > > > > [ ] Working towards first release
> > > > > > [x] Community building
> > > > > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > > > > [ ] Other:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Date of last release:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2016-10-06
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2016-10-03
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: incubator report / podling status
Posted by Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I posted the report to https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017 and
> > signed off. Other mentors, please sign off as well.
> >
> >
> Done
>
>
>
> > There has been some discussion in the Accumulo community about
> contributing
> > its span receiver back to HTrace. We know it works well, and that would
> > make configuring and versioning it easier. I haven't had time to work on
> > it, though, which is why I haven't brought it up. Would HTrace consider
> > accepting an Accumulo span receiver, if we could find someone to work on
> > it?
> >
> >
> Yes. Makes sense. What is special about this receiver?
>
Nearly all Apache Accumulo instances are configured to send traces to
themselves using this mechanism. There's a tracer process that spans are
sent to via Thrift, and the tracer inserts the spans into Accumulo. The
tracer location(s) are discovered via ZooKeeper. So, pretty normal?
https://github.com/apache/accumulo/tree/master/server/tracer/src/main/java/org/apache/accumulo/tracer
When testing out HDFS and Accumulo tracing together, I found I had to add a
configuration property that would optionally allow the receiver to drop
spans of length 0ms, as HDFS was generating a huge number of these. (I
realize dropping spans is not recommended, but I was still able to do some
interpretation of parentless spans when the 0ms spans were missing.)
Billie
>
> St.Ack
>
>
> > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Colin McCabe <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017, at 13:01, Stack wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > HTrace's quarterly report is slightly overdue (due yesterday). I've
> > > pasted
> > > > > a bare bones draft below based on the last report. Does anyone have
> > > > > something to add?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you Billie. +1 on the report. It conveys that little has
> > happened
> > > > since our last report.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > We should have a discussion about HTrace's status. We were talking
> > > about
> > > > > the possibility of graduation over a year ago. Do you think we need
> > to
> > > grow
> > > > > the community further before proposing graduation?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > We should. There has been little progress of late. Lets talk about
> > this.
> > > > Most of us seem to be off occupied on other stuff with little time
> over
> > > > for
> > > > moving HTrace forward.
> > > >
> > > > St.Ack
> > >
> > > Thanks for speaking up, Billie and Stack. Agree it's been a little
> > > quiet lately. I've been busy on Apache Kafka recently. There was some
> > > stuff I wanted to push on the HTrace side but I didn't get a chance to
> > > post it yet.
> > >
> > > Colin
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > HTrace is a tracing framework intended for use with distributed
> > systems
> > > > > written in java.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTrace has been incubating since 2014-11-11.
> > > > >
> > > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > graduation:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Continue to grow the Apache HTrace community
> > > > > 2. Continue to explore projects integrating Apache HTrace
> > > > > 3. Continue to develop and release stable Apache HTrace
> incubating
> > > > > artifacts
> > > > >
> > > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to
> be
> > > > > aware of?
> > > > >
> > > > > There are no issues requiring board attention at this time.
> > > > >
> > > > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mailing lists have been quiet.
> > > > >
> > > > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > > > >
> > > > > Development has been quiet.
> > > > >
> > > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > > > >
> > > > > [ ] Initial setup
> > > > > [ ] Working towards first release
> > > > > [x] Community building
> > > > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > > > [ ] Other:
> > > > >
> > > > > Date of last release:
> > > > >
> > > > > 2016-10-06
> > > > >
> > > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2016-10-03
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: incubator report / podling status
Posted by Stack <st...@duboce.net>.
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org> wrote:
> I posted the report to https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017 and
> signed off. Other mentors, please sign off as well.
>
>
Done
> There has been some discussion in the Accumulo community about contributing
> its span receiver back to HTrace. We know it works well, and that would
> make configuring and versioning it easier. I haven't had time to work on
> it, though, which is why I haven't brought it up. Would HTrace consider
> accepting an Accumulo span receiver, if we could find someone to work on
> it?
>
>
Yes. Makes sense. What is special about this receiver?
St.Ack
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Colin McCabe <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017, at 13:01, Stack wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > HTrace's quarterly report is slightly overdue (due yesterday). I've
> > pasted
> > > > a bare bones draft below based on the last report. Does anyone have
> > > > something to add?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you Billie. +1 on the report. It conveys that little has
> happened
> > > since our last report.
> > >
> > >
> > > > We should have a discussion about HTrace's status. We were talking
> > about
> > > > the possibility of graduation over a year ago. Do you think we need
> to
> > grow
> > > > the community further before proposing graduation?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > We should. There has been little progress of late. Lets talk about
> this.
> > > Most of us seem to be off occupied on other stuff with little time over
> > > for
> > > moving HTrace forward.
> > >
> > > St.Ack
> >
> > Thanks for speaking up, Billie and Stack. Agree it's been a little
> > quiet lately. I've been busy on Apache Kafka recently. There was some
> > stuff I wanted to push on the HTrace side but I didn't get a chance to
> > post it yet.
> >
> > Colin
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > > HTrace is a tracing framework intended for use with distributed
> systems
> > > > written in java.
> > > >
> > > > HTrace has been incubating since 2014-11-11.
> > > >
> > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> graduation:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Continue to grow the Apache HTrace community
> > > > 2. Continue to explore projects integrating Apache HTrace
> > > > 3. Continue to develop and release stable Apache HTrace incubating
> > > > artifacts
> > > >
> > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> > > > aware of?
> > > >
> > > > There are no issues requiring board attention at this time.
> > > >
> > > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > > >
> > > > Mailing lists have been quiet.
> > > >
> > > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > > >
> > > > Development has been quiet.
> > > >
> > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > > >
> > > > [ ] Initial setup
> > > > [ ] Working towards first release
> > > > [x] Community building
> > > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > > [ ] Other:
> > > >
> > > > Date of last release:
> > > >
> > > > 2016-10-06
> > > >
> > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > > >
> > > > 2016-10-03
> > > >
> >
>
Re: incubator report / podling status
Posted by Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org>.
I posted the report to https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017 and
signed off. Other mentors, please sign off as well.
There has been some discussion in the Accumulo community about contributing
its span receiver back to HTrace. We know it works well, and that would
make configuring and versioning it easier. I haven't had time to work on
it, though, which is why I haven't brought it up. Would HTrace consider
accepting an Accumulo span receiver, if we could find someone to work on it?
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Colin McCabe <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017, at 13:01, Stack wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > HTrace's quarterly report is slightly overdue (due yesterday). I've
> pasted
> > > a bare bones draft below based on the last report. Does anyone have
> > > something to add?
> > >
> > > Thank you Billie. +1 on the report. It conveys that little has happened
> > since our last report.
> >
> >
> > > We should have a discussion about HTrace's status. We were talking
> about
> > > the possibility of graduation over a year ago. Do you think we need to
> grow
> > > the community further before proposing graduation?
> > >
> > >
> > We should. There has been little progress of late. Lets talk about this.
> > Most of us seem to be off occupied on other stuff with little time over
> > for
> > moving HTrace forward.
> >
> > St.Ack
>
> Thanks for speaking up, Billie and Stack. Agree it's been a little
> quiet lately. I've been busy on Apache Kafka recently. There was some
> stuff I wanted to push on the HTrace side but I didn't get a chance to
> post it yet.
>
> Colin
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > > HTrace is a tracing framework intended for use with distributed systems
> > > written in java.
> > >
> > > HTrace has been incubating since 2014-11-11.
> > >
> > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
> > >
> > > 1. Continue to grow the Apache HTrace community
> > > 2. Continue to explore projects integrating Apache HTrace
> > > 3. Continue to develop and release stable Apache HTrace incubating
> > > artifacts
> > >
> > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> > > aware of?
> > >
> > > There are no issues requiring board attention at this time.
> > >
> > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > >
> > > Mailing lists have been quiet.
> > >
> > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > >
> > > Development has been quiet.
> > >
> > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > >
> > > [ ] Initial setup
> > > [ ] Working towards first release
> > > [x] Community building
> > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > [ ] Other:
> > >
> > > Date of last release:
> > >
> > > 2016-10-06
> > >
> > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > >
> > > 2016-10-03
> > >
>
Re: incubator report / podling status
Posted by Colin McCabe <cm...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017, at 13:01, Stack wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > HTrace's quarterly report is slightly overdue (due yesterday). I've pasted
> > a bare bones draft below based on the last report. Does anyone have
> > something to add?
> >
> > Thank you Billie. +1 on the report. It conveys that little has happened
> since our last report.
>
>
> > We should have a discussion about HTrace's status. We were talking about
> > the possibility of graduation over a year ago. Do you think we need to grow
> > the community further before proposing graduation?
> >
> >
> We should. There has been little progress of late. Lets talk about this.
> Most of us seem to be off occupied on other stuff with little time over
> for
> moving HTrace forward.
>
> St.Ack
Thanks for speaking up, Billie and Stack. Agree it's been a little
quiet lately. I've been busy on Apache Kafka recently. There was some
stuff I wanted to push on the HTrace side but I didn't get a chance to
post it yet.
Colin
>
>
>
>
> -----
> > HTrace is a tracing framework intended for use with distributed systems
> > written in java.
> >
> > HTrace has been incubating since 2014-11-11.
> >
> > Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
> >
> > 1. Continue to grow the Apache HTrace community
> > 2. Continue to explore projects integrating Apache HTrace
> > 3. Continue to develop and release stable Apache HTrace incubating
> > artifacts
> >
> > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> > aware of?
> >
> > There are no issues requiring board attention at this time.
> >
> > How has the community developed since the last report?
> >
> > Mailing lists have been quiet.
> >
> > How has the project developed since the last report?
> >
> > Development has been quiet.
> >
> > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> >
> > [ ] Initial setup
> > [ ] Working towards first release
> > [x] Community building
> > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > [ ] Other:
> >
> > Date of last release:
> >
> > 2016-10-06
> >
> > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> >
> > 2016-10-03
> >
Re: incubator report / podling status
Posted by Stack <st...@duboce.net>.
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Billie Rinaldi <bi...@apache.org> wrote:
> HTrace's quarterly report is slightly overdue (due yesterday). I've pasted
> a bare bones draft below based on the last report. Does anyone have
> something to add?
>
> Thank you Billie. +1 on the report. It conveys that little has happened
since our last report.
> We should have a discussion about HTrace's status. We were talking about
> the possibility of graduation over a year ago. Do you think we need to grow
> the community further before proposing graduation?
>
>
We should. There has been little progress of late. Lets talk about this.
Most of us seem to be off occupied on other stuff with little time over for
moving HTrace forward.
St.Ack
-----
> HTrace is a tracing framework intended for use with distributed systems
> written in java.
>
> HTrace has been incubating since 2014-11-11.
>
> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>
> 1. Continue to grow the Apache HTrace community
> 2. Continue to explore projects integrating Apache HTrace
> 3. Continue to develop and release stable Apache HTrace incubating
> artifacts
>
> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> aware of?
>
> There are no issues requiring board attention at this time.
>
> How has the community developed since the last report?
>
> Mailing lists have been quiet.
>
> How has the project developed since the last report?
>
> Development has been quiet.
>
> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
>
> [ ] Initial setup
> [ ] Working towards first release
> [x] Community building
> [ ] Nearing graduation
> [ ] Other:
>
> Date of last release:
>
> 2016-10-06
>
> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>
> 2016-10-03
>