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Data in SOAP messages
Hi all,
does (and if it does where and how ) the SOAP specificaton allow to
add proprietary or application specific data
to SOAP messages?
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Re: Data in SOAP messages
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
Or at least point me to the right documentation for this and I will take
it from there.
Paul Fremantle wrote:
> Sure Demetris - that is what headers are for. However, although you
> can include headers in the WSDL, most of the time people don't. The
> reason is that they like to keep a separation between application
> (functional) and non-application logic (non-functional, e.g. QoS,
> higher level tracking etc).
>
> You can add headers inside the client or using a module. You can even
> extend the policy languages to define your own headers using a policy.
>
> Paul
>
> On 5/29/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Glen,
>>
>> I hope this makes a bit of a sense:
>>
>> Can the server send some network specific information to the client
>> by including that
>> information in the WSDL file in such a way so that when the client stubs
>> generate the
>> SOAP calls back to the server, this information can be intercepted and
>> utilized in a
>> certain manner. In other words, I want to take advantage of the existing
>> traffic between
>> the client and the server to transport additional information across
>> them.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Glen Mazza wrote:
>> > I am not sure what you asking--can you give us an example of what you
>> > might be looking for?
>> >
>> > Glen
>> >
>> >
>> > Am Montag, den 28.05.2007, 23:07 -0400 schrieb Demetris G:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> does (and if it does where and how ) the SOAP specificaton
>> allow to
>> >> add proprietary or application specific data
>> >> to SOAP messages?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: Data in SOAP messages
Posted by Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com>.
Demetris
If you have a stub (called stub) and you call:
stub._getServiceClient().addStringHeader(new
QName("http://my/namespace", "myTagname", "header text");
You will see something like (if you use TCPMON to trace the SOAP messages)
<soapenv:Header>
...
<pre:myTagname xmlns:pre="http://my/namespace">header text</pre:myTagname>
...
</soapenv:Header>
flowing. If you have more complex headers to send you can do:
stub._getServiceClient().addHeader(omElement);
In the server (assuming its also Axis2) you can implement a method:
public void init(MessageContext msgctx){
// store the message context
}
from msgctx you can access the Envelope and then the SOAPHeaders.
Paul
On 5/30/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I tend to agree with you so I want to avoid doing so. I am trying to
> find
> a way to pass information about specialized sockets to the client from the
> server so that when the SOAP messages are generated they will have this
> information. I am not sure what the best way would be now to do so but
> I will need to work on it a bit more to figure that out. Any suggestions
> would be more than welcome.
> And thanks again for taking the time to help out Paul. Much
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > Demetris
> >
> > I was trying to get across that you *don't* want to add headers into
> > the WSDL. Its not a good model. The point is that the body is (mostly)
> > strongly-typed and the headers are loosely typed in the sense that you
> > may or may not have them. Axis2 doesn't support generating WSDL with
> > headers in it. I'm not sure if WSDL2Java has been tested with WSDL
> > with headers in either, because its not a common case.
> >
> > If you want to read more, look at this:
> > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/ws-tip-headers.html
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On 5/29/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> I did find some information on adding headers on the client side or in
> >> the SOAP
> >> message. How does one ask the Axis engine on the server side to add
> >> headers
> >> in the generated WSDL ?
> >>
> >> Paul Fremantle wrote:
> >> > Sure Demetris - that is what headers are for. However, although you
> >> > can include headers in the WSDL, most of the time people don't. The
> >> > reason is that they like to keep a separation between application
> >> > (functional) and non-application logic (non-functional, e.g. QoS,
> >> > higher level tracking etc).
> >> >
> >> > You can add headers inside the client or using a module. You can even
> >> > extend the policy languages to define your own headers using a policy.
> >> >
> >> > Paul
> >> >
> >> > On 5/29/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hey Glen,
> >> >>
> >> >> I hope this makes a bit of a sense:
> >> >>
> >> >> Can the server send some network specific information to the
> >> client
> >> >> by including that
> >> >> information in the WSDL file in such a way so that when the client
> >> stubs
> >> >> generate the
> >> >> SOAP calls back to the server, this information can be intercepted
> >> and
> >> >> utilized in a
> >> >> certain manner. In other words, I want to take advantage of the
> >> existing
> >> >> traffic between
> >> >> the client and the server to transport additional information across
> >> >> them.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Glen Mazza wrote:
> >> >> > I am not sure what you asking--can you give us an example of
> >> what you
> >> >> > might be looking for?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Glen
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Am Montag, den 28.05.2007, 23:07 -0400 schrieb Demetris G:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> does (and if it does where and how ) the SOAP specificaton
> >> >> allow to
> >> >> >> add proprietary or application specific data
> >> >> >> to SOAP messages?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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Re: Data in SOAP messages
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
Hi Paul,
I tend to agree with you so I want to avoid doing so. I am trying to
find
a way to pass information about specialized sockets to the client from the
server so that when the SOAP messages are generated they will have this
information. I am not sure what the best way would be now to do so but
I will need to work on it a bit more to figure that out. Any suggestions
would be more than welcome.
And thanks again for taking the time to help out Paul. Much
appreciated.
Thanks
Paul Fremantle wrote:
> Demetris
>
> I was trying to get across that you *don't* want to add headers into
> the WSDL. Its not a good model. The point is that the body is (mostly)
> strongly-typed and the headers are loosely typed in the sense that you
> may or may not have them. Axis2 doesn't support generating WSDL with
> headers in it. I'm not sure if WSDL2Java has been tested with WSDL
> with headers in either, because its not a common case.
>
> If you want to read more, look at this:
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/ws-tip-headers.html
>
> Paul
>
> On 5/29/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> I did find some information on adding headers on the client side or in
>> the SOAP
>> message. How does one ask the Axis engine on the server side to add
>> headers
>> in the generated WSDL ?
>>
>> Paul Fremantle wrote:
>> > Sure Demetris - that is what headers are for. However, although you
>> > can include headers in the WSDL, most of the time people don't. The
>> > reason is that they like to keep a separation between application
>> > (functional) and non-application logic (non-functional, e.g. QoS,
>> > higher level tracking etc).
>> >
>> > You can add headers inside the client or using a module. You can even
>> > extend the policy languages to define your own headers using a policy.
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
>> > On 5/29/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hey Glen,
>> >>
>> >> I hope this makes a bit of a sense:
>> >>
>> >> Can the server send some network specific information to the
>> client
>> >> by including that
>> >> information in the WSDL file in such a way so that when the client
>> stubs
>> >> generate the
>> >> SOAP calls back to the server, this information can be intercepted
>> and
>> >> utilized in a
>> >> certain manner. In other words, I want to take advantage of the
>> existing
>> >> traffic between
>> >> the client and the server to transport additional information across
>> >> them.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Glen Mazza wrote:
>> >> > I am not sure what you asking--can you give us an example of
>> what you
>> >> > might be looking for?
>> >> >
>> >> > Glen
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Am Montag, den 28.05.2007, 23:07 -0400 schrieb Demetris G:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi all,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> does (and if it does where and how ) the SOAP specificaton
>> >> allow to
>> >> >> add proprietary or application specific data
>> >> >> to SOAP messages?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
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Re: Data in SOAP messages
Posted by Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com>.
Demetris
I was trying to get across that you *don't* want to add headers into
the WSDL. Its not a good model. The point is that the body is (mostly)
strongly-typed and the headers are loosely typed in the sense that you
may or may not have them. Axis2 doesn't support generating WSDL with
headers in it. I'm not sure if WSDL2Java has been tested with WSDL
with headers in either, because its not a common case.
If you want to read more, look at this:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/ws-tip-headers.html
Paul
On 5/29/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
>
> I did find some information on adding headers on the client side or in
> the SOAP
> message. How does one ask the Axis engine on the server side to add headers
> in the generated WSDL ?
>
> Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > Sure Demetris - that is what headers are for. However, although you
> > can include headers in the WSDL, most of the time people don't. The
> > reason is that they like to keep a separation between application
> > (functional) and non-application logic (non-functional, e.g. QoS,
> > higher level tracking etc).
> >
> > You can add headers inside the client or using a module. You can even
> > extend the policy languages to define your own headers using a policy.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On 5/29/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey Glen,
> >>
> >> I hope this makes a bit of a sense:
> >>
> >> Can the server send some network specific information to the client
> >> by including that
> >> information in the WSDL file in such a way so that when the client stubs
> >> generate the
> >> SOAP calls back to the server, this information can be intercepted and
> >> utilized in a
> >> certain manner. In other words, I want to take advantage of the existing
> >> traffic between
> >> the client and the server to transport additional information across
> >> them.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Glen Mazza wrote:
> >> > I am not sure what you asking--can you give us an example of what you
> >> > might be looking for?
> >> >
> >> > Glen
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Am Montag, den 28.05.2007, 23:07 -0400 schrieb Demetris G:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >>
> >> >> does (and if it does where and how ) the SOAP specificaton
> >> allow to
> >> >> add proprietary or application specific data
> >> >> to SOAP messages?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: axis-user-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: axis-user-help@ws.apache.org
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >>
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Re: Data in SOAP messages
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
I did find some information on adding headers on the client side or in
the SOAP
message. How does one ask the Axis engine on the server side to add headers
in the generated WSDL ?
Paul Fremantle wrote:
> Sure Demetris - that is what headers are for. However, although you
> can include headers in the WSDL, most of the time people don't. The
> reason is that they like to keep a separation between application
> (functional) and non-application logic (non-functional, e.g. QoS,
> higher level tracking etc).
>
> You can add headers inside the client or using a module. You can even
> extend the policy languages to define your own headers using a policy.
>
> Paul
>
> On 5/29/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Glen,
>>
>> I hope this makes a bit of a sense:
>>
>> Can the server send some network specific information to the client
>> by including that
>> information in the WSDL file in such a way so that when the client stubs
>> generate the
>> SOAP calls back to the server, this information can be intercepted and
>> utilized in a
>> certain manner. In other words, I want to take advantage of the existing
>> traffic between
>> the client and the server to transport additional information across
>> them.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Glen Mazza wrote:
>> > I am not sure what you asking--can you give us an example of what you
>> > might be looking for?
>> >
>> > Glen
>> >
>> >
>> > Am Montag, den 28.05.2007, 23:07 -0400 schrieb Demetris G:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> does (and if it does where and how ) the SOAP specificaton
>> allow to
>> >> add proprietary or application specific data
>> >> to SOAP messages?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: axis-user-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: axis-user-help@ws.apache.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
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Re: Data in SOAP messages
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
Hey Paul,
that sounds good. Excuse my ignorance on some of the technology
details ; would the headers in the WSDL be visible in the SOAP messages
that the client stubs emit without me needing to add anything manually ?
If yes then this solves my problem and it would make for a happy day :)
Thanks again
Paul Fremantle wrote:
> Sure Demetris - that is what headers are for. However, although you
> can include headers in the WSDL, most of the time people don't. The
> reason is that they like to keep a separation between application
> (functional) and non-application logic (non-functional, e.g. QoS,
> higher level tracking etc).
>
> You can add headers inside the client or using a module. You can even
> extend the policy languages to define your own headers using a policy.
>
> Paul
>
> On 5/29/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Glen,
>>
>> I hope this makes a bit of a sense:
>>
>> Can the server send some network specific information to the client
>> by including that
>> information in the WSDL file in such a way so that when the client stubs
>> generate the
>> SOAP calls back to the server, this information can be intercepted and
>> utilized in a
>> certain manner. In other words, I want to take advantage of the existing
>> traffic between
>> the client and the server to transport additional information across
>> them.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Glen Mazza wrote:
>> > I am not sure what you asking--can you give us an example of what you
>> > might be looking for?
>> >
>> > Glen
>> >
>> >
>> > Am Montag, den 28.05.2007, 23:07 -0400 schrieb Demetris G:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> does (and if it does where and how ) the SOAP specificaton
>> allow to
>> >> add proprietary or application specific data
>> >> to SOAP messages?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: axis-user-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: axis-user-help@ws.apache.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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>> >
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Re: Data in SOAP messages
Posted by Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com>.
Sure Demetris - that is what headers are for. However, although you
can include headers in the WSDL, most of the time people don't. The
reason is that they like to keep a separation between application
(functional) and non-application logic (non-functional, e.g. QoS,
higher level tracking etc).
You can add headers inside the client or using a module. You can even
extend the policy languages to define your own headers using a policy.
Paul
On 5/29/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
>
> Hey Glen,
>
> I hope this makes a bit of a sense:
>
> Can the server send some network specific information to the client
> by including that
> information in the WSDL file in such a way so that when the client stubs
> generate the
> SOAP calls back to the server, this information can be intercepted and
> utilized in a
> certain manner. In other words, I want to take advantage of the existing
> traffic between
> the client and the server to transport additional information across them.
>
> Thanks
>
> Glen Mazza wrote:
> > I am not sure what you asking--can you give us an example of what you
> > might be looking for?
> >
> > Glen
> >
> >
> > Am Montag, den 28.05.2007, 23:07 -0400 schrieb Demetris G:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> does (and if it does where and how ) the SOAP specificaton allow to
> >> add proprietary or application specific data
> >> to SOAP messages?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
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Re: Data in SOAP messages
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
Hey Glen,
I hope this makes a bit of a sense:
Can the server send some network specific information to the client
by including that
information in the WSDL file in such a way so that when the client stubs
generate the
SOAP calls back to the server, this information can be intercepted and
utilized in a
certain manner. In other words, I want to take advantage of the existing
traffic between
the client and the server to transport additional information across them.
Thanks
Glen Mazza wrote:
> I am not sure what you asking--can you give us an example of what you
> might be looking for?
>
> Glen
>
>
> Am Montag, den 28.05.2007, 23:07 -0400 schrieb Demetris G:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> does (and if it does where and how ) the SOAP specificaton allow to
>> add proprietary or application specific data
>> to SOAP messages?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
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Re: Data in SOAP messages
Posted by Glen Mazza <gr...@verizon.net>.
I am not sure what you asking--can you give us an example of what you
might be looking for?
Glen
Am Montag, den 28.05.2007, 23:07 -0400 schrieb Demetris G:
> Hi all,
>
> does (and if it does where and how ) the SOAP specificaton allow to
> add proprietary or application specific data
> to SOAP messages?
>
> Thanks
>
>
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