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Posted to dev@bval.apache.org by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> on 2010/04/06 18:12:04 UTC
JCP TCK Materials
FYI,
Some information about Apache's participation in the JCP -- http://apache.org/jcp/
Here's general information about getting access to TCK materials -- http://apache.org/jcp/#gettingtck
You'd need to fill out the ASF Non-Disclosure Agreement -- http://apache.org/jcp/ApacheNDA.pdf
You can then request access to Sun TCK materials by sending a note to jcp-open@apache.org.
Some projects manage TCK materials within the project (e.g. Geronimo). This isn't a requirement. For technology projects like BeanValidation with relatively small TCKs, a committer can send a note to jcp-open@apache.org (after they've submitted their NDA) and request the TCK materials. Typically, the TCK is placed in your home directory on people.apache.org.
You are expected to keep TCK materials private. Also, some care needs to be taken in publicly discussing the TCK. Which is the point that Donald raised in BVAL-16. I think this restriction only applies to materials obtained under the NDA. IIUC, this is not the case for the TCK tests currently being run.
--kevan
Re: JCP TCK Materials
Posted by Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>.
Go ahead and check it into trunk/bval-tck/ (drop the runner part of the
name). Also, I noticed several files are missing the ASL 2.0 header
(*.properties and *.xml) that will have to be added.
There is a file/directory that doesn't look like it's needed (beans.xml
is empty) and should probably not be checked in -
src/test/resources/org/jboss/testharness/impl/packaging/jsr299/default/beans.xml
Once we have the code in, I'll update the pom.xml so we don't deploy any
artifacts for that module.
-Donald
On 4/7/10 10:36 AM, Roman Stumm wrote:
> Am 07.04.10 16:26, schrieb Kevan Miller:
>> On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:08 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hello Kevan,
>>>
>>> isn't the TCK for this "free" ? I think JBoss does that nowadays for
>>> their "new" stuff.
>>>
>>> For instance, on OpenWebBeans we use this one:
>>> http://repository.jboss.com/maven2/org/jboss/jsr299/tck/
>>>
>> Yes. And I think what JBoss has done with these TCK's is fantastic. I
>> wish all JCP projects would do this.
>>
>> This email was a followup to a question/concern that Donald raised in
>> a recent Jira about public discussion of TCK results. I was only
>> elaborating with additional information about JCP.
>>
>> I don't think BeanValidation needs to do anything differently.
>>
>> My only question would be what the project can claim, after passing
>> all of the TCK tests. If we want to claim "Sun Certified", we might
>> need to obtain the official TCK materials from Sun/Oracle, not from
>> JBoss. I haven't looked at this in any detail.
>>
>> --kevan
> Hi Donald,
>
> should I commit the subproject bval-tck-runner created by Carlos into
> svn under trunk/bval/ or are there any doubts about that? (for Jira
> issue BVAL-16)
>
> Roman
>
Re: JCP TCK Materials
Posted by Roman Stumm <ro...@gmx.de>.
Am 07.04.10 16:26, schrieb Kevan Miller:
> On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:08 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>
>
>> Hello Kevan,
>>
>> isn't the TCK for this "free" ? I think JBoss does that nowadays for
>> their "new" stuff.
>>
>> For instance, on OpenWebBeans we use this one:
>> http://repository.jboss.com/maven2/org/jboss/jsr299/tck/
>>
> Yes. And I think what JBoss has done with these TCK's is fantastic. I wish all JCP projects would do this.
>
> This email was a followup to a question/concern that Donald raised in a recent Jira about public discussion of TCK results. I was only elaborating with additional information about JCP.
>
> I don't think BeanValidation needs to do anything differently.
>
> My only question would be what the project can claim, after passing all of the TCK tests. If we want to claim "Sun Certified", we might need to obtain the official TCK materials from Sun/Oracle, not from JBoss. I haven't looked at this in any detail.
>
> --kevan
Hi Donald,
should I commit the subproject bval-tck-runner created by Carlos into
svn under trunk/bval/ or are there any doubts about that? (for Jira
issue BVAL-16)
Roman
Re: JCP TCK Materials
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:08 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> Hello Kevan,
>
> isn't the TCK for this "free" ? I think JBoss does that nowadays for
> their "new" stuff.
>
> For instance, on OpenWebBeans we use this one:
> http://repository.jboss.com/maven2/org/jboss/jsr299/tck/
Yes. And I think what JBoss has done with these TCK's is fantastic. I wish all JCP projects would do this.
This email was a followup to a question/concern that Donald raised in a recent Jira about public discussion of TCK results. I was only elaborating with additional information about JCP.
I don't think BeanValidation needs to do anything differently.
My only question would be what the project can claim, after passing all of the TCK tests. If we want to claim "Sun Certified", we might need to obtain the official TCK materials from Sun/Oracle, not from JBoss. I haven't looked at this in any detail.
--kevan
Re: JCP TCK Materials
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
TCK for BeanValidation is located here:
http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/hibernate/beanvalidation/tck/trunk/
and it is licensed under Apache2, see:
http://twitter.com/emmanuelbernard/status/11750039600
Greetings,
Matthias
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hello Kevan,
>
> isn't the TCK for this "free" ? I think JBoss does that nowadays for
> their "new" stuff.
>
> For instance, on OpenWebBeans we use this one:
> http://repository.jboss.com/maven2/org/jboss/jsr299/tck/
>
> -Matthias
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> FYI,
>> Some information about Apache's participation in the JCP -- http://apache.org/jcp/
>>
>> Here's general information about getting access to TCK materials -- http://apache.org/jcp/#gettingtck
>>
>> You'd need to fill out the ASF Non-Disclosure Agreement -- http://apache.org/jcp/ApacheNDA.pdf
>>
>> You can then request access to Sun TCK materials by sending a note to jcp-open@apache.org.
>>
>> Some projects manage TCK materials within the project (e.g. Geronimo). This isn't a requirement. For technology projects like BeanValidation with relatively small TCKs, a committer can send a note to jcp-open@apache.org (after they've submitted their NDA) and request the TCK materials. Typically, the TCK is placed in your home directory on people.apache.org.
>>
>> You are expected to keep TCK materials private. Also, some care needs to be taken in publicly discussing the TCK. Which is the point that Donald raised in BVAL-16. I think this restriction only applies to materials obtained under the NDA. IIUC, this is not the case for the TCK tests currently being run.
>>
>> --kevan
>
>
>
> --
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>
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>
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Re: JCP TCK Materials
Posted by Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>.
Maybe this should be raised on jcp-open, since the TCK is available
freely under ASL 2.0, but certification of the JSR-303 spec is
controlled by the JCP and falls under the domain of the NDA....
-Donald
On 4/7/10 4:08 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> Hello Kevan,
>
> isn't the TCK for this "free" ? I think JBoss does that nowadays for
> their "new" stuff.
>
> For instance, on OpenWebBeans we use this one:
> http://repository.jboss.com/maven2/org/jboss/jsr299/tck/
>
> -Matthias
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> FYI,
>> Some information about Apache's participation in the JCP -- http://apache.org/jcp/
>>
>> Here's general information about getting access to TCK materials -- http://apache.org/jcp/#gettingtck
>>
>> You'd need to fill out the ASF Non-Disclosure Agreement -- http://apache.org/jcp/ApacheNDA.pdf
>>
>> You can then request access to Sun TCK materials by sending a note to jcp-open@apache.org.
>>
>> Some projects manage TCK materials within the project (e.g. Geronimo). This isn't a requirement. For technology projects like BeanValidation with relatively small TCKs, a committer can send a note to jcp-open@apache.org (after they've submitted their NDA) and request the TCK materials. Typically, the TCK is placed in your home directory on people.apache.org.
>>
>> You are expected to keep TCK materials private. Also, some care needs to be taken in publicly discussing the TCK. Which is the point that Donald raised in BVAL-16. I think this restriction only applies to materials obtained under the NDA. IIUC, this is not the case for the TCK tests currently being run.
>>
>> --kevan
>
>
>
Re: JCP TCK Materials
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Hello Kevan,
isn't the TCK for this "free" ? I think JBoss does that nowadays for
their "new" stuff.
For instance, on OpenWebBeans we use this one:
http://repository.jboss.com/maven2/org/jboss/jsr299/tck/
-Matthias
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FYI,
> Some information about Apache's participation in the JCP -- http://apache.org/jcp/
>
> Here's general information about getting access to TCK materials -- http://apache.org/jcp/#gettingtck
>
> You'd need to fill out the ASF Non-Disclosure Agreement -- http://apache.org/jcp/ApacheNDA.pdf
>
> You can then request access to Sun TCK materials by sending a note to jcp-open@apache.org.
>
> Some projects manage TCK materials within the project (e.g. Geronimo). This isn't a requirement. For technology projects like BeanValidation with relatively small TCKs, a committer can send a note to jcp-open@apache.org (after they've submitted their NDA) and request the TCK materials. Typically, the TCK is placed in your home directory on people.apache.org.
>
> You are expected to keep TCK materials private. Also, some care needs to be taken in publicly discussing the TCK. Which is the point that Donald raised in BVAL-16. I think this restriction only applies to materials obtained under the NDA. IIUC, this is not the case for the TCK tests currently being run.
>
> --kevan
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf