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Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Hello,

as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
FOSDEM 2016.

It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
FOSDEM with a booth.

Kind regards
Michael


Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by Amir Tajida <am...@gmail.com>.
SM-G900F
On Oct 11, 2015 12:36 AM, "Andrea Pescetti" <pe...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 06/10/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
>> I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar
>> to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year).
>>
>
> This was sent yesterday. I didn't CC the list since submissions now happen
> through a web form, but content is not much different from the 2015
> submission linked above.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by Amir Tajida <am...@gmail.com>.
SM-G900F
On Oct 11, 2015 12:36 AM, "Andrea Pescetti" <pe...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 06/10/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
>> I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar
>> to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year).
>>
>
> This was sent yesterday. I didn't CC the list since submissions now happen
> through a web form, but content is not much different from the 2015
> submission linked above.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 06/10/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar
> to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year).

This was sent yesterday. I didn't CC the list since submissions now 
happen through a web form, but content is not much different from the 
2015 submission linked above.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 06/10/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar
> to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year).

This was sent yesterday. I didn't CC the list since submissions now 
happen through a web form, but content is not much different from the 
2015 submission linked above.

Regards,
   Andrea.

Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> just wanted to let you guys know that I've just submitted
> a proposal for Big Data and Data Science devroom for
> FOSDEM.

Good!

> Not sure how to increase our chances of being accepted,
> but would love any feedback on that.

Both booths/stands and devrooms are accepted (or rejected) directly by 
the FOSDEM organizers, with (as far as I know) no way to influence the 
decision. But organizers prefer to see devrooms that focus on one topic 
rather than one software and that gather similar projects.

Acceptance of a stand and/or a devroom for the same project are 
independent. So a stand for OpenOffice is unrelated to a devroom for ODF 
Editors. And a stand for Apache is unrelated to a devroom for Big Data 
projects. And different Apache projects can show up in different 
devrooms since they apply to different areas.

I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar 
to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year).

Regards,
   Andrea.

Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> just wanted to let you guys know that I've just submitted
> a proposal for Big Data and Data Science devroom for
> FOSDEM.

Good!

> Not sure how to increase our chances of being accepted,
> but would love any feedback on that.

Both booths/stands and devrooms are accepted (or rejected) directly by 
the FOSDEM organizers, with (as far as I know) no way to influence the 
decision. But organizers prefer to see devrooms that focus on one topic 
rather than one software and that gather similar projects.

Acceptance of a stand and/or a devroom for the same project are 
independent. So a stand for OpenOffice is unrelated to a devroom for ODF 
Editors. And a stand for Apache is unrelated to a devroom for Big Data 
projects. And different Apache projects can show up in different 
devrooms since they apply to different areas.

I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar 
to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year).

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
Hi!

just wanted to let you guys know that I've just submitted
a proposal for Big Data and Data Science devroom for
FOSDEM. ASF is the org that can make it a really successfull
DEVROOM and last year the feedback was asking for
something like this big time.

Not sure how to increase our chances of being accepted,
but would love any feedback on that.

Thanks,
Roman.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:59 AM, RA Stehmann
<an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> wrote:
> On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
>>> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
>>> FOSDEM 2016.
>>
>> So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
>> don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
>> OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.
>
> Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
> FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
> Apache OpenOffice.
>
> Apache is one of the major (and greatest ;-) ) projects in the Free
> Software world.
>
>>
>>> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
>>> FOSDEM with a booth.
>>
>> I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice
>> request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF
>> request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both
>> were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we
>> would share the table.
>
> We might get a problem, if both booths are granted, but in different
> places. It isn't a proper behavior to quit one of the booths in that case.
>
>>
>> So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would
>> try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.
>>
>> It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF
>> (deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the
>> lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that
>> the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under
>> whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.
>>
>
> Perhaps we should make a conditional request. But the best thing would
> be, that Daniel ask the orga sufficiently early before the deadline.
> They are all nice human beings.
>
> Regards
> Michael
>
>
>

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Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 29/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
> On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
>> don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
>> OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.
> Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
> FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
> Apache OpenOffice.

Time passed and it seems today (Friday) is the last day for proposing a 
stand/booth. As things stand now, with no information at all, probably 
it would make sense to submit a quick request on behalf of OpenOffice 
saying that we would accept (and we recommend!) that the request is 
merged with the Apache one (I mean, the one reportedly sent by Daniel), 
and that Apache can get adequate table space for the merged booth, on 
the ground floor.

I'm not going to submit it; I'm leaving this to Michael for 
consideration. Of course, if we already know that Daniel's request will 
be accepted, there is no reason for submitting this "extra" request.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 29/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
> On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
>> don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
>> OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.
> Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
> FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
> Apache OpenOffice.

Time passed and it seems today (Friday) is the last day for proposing a 
stand/booth. As things stand now, with no information at all, probably 
it would make sense to submit a quick request on behalf of OpenOffice 
saying that we would accept (and we recommend!) that the request is 
merged with the Apache one (I mean, the one reportedly sent by Daniel), 
and that Apache can get adequate table space for the merged booth, on 
the ground floor.

I'm not going to submit it; I'm leaving this to Michael for 
consideration. Of course, if we already know that Daniel's request will 
be accepted, there is no reason for submitting this "extra" request.

Regards,
   Andrea.

Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
Hi!

just wanted to let you guys know that I've just submitted
a proposal for Big Data and Data Science devroom for
FOSDEM. ASF is the org that can make it a really successfull
DEVROOM and last year the feedback was asking for
something like this big time.

Not sure how to increase our chances of being accepted,
but would love any feedback on that.

Thanks,
Roman.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:59 AM, RA Stehmann
<an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> wrote:
> On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
>>> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
>>> FOSDEM 2016.
>>
>> So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
>> don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
>> OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.
>
> Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
> FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
> Apache OpenOffice.
>
> Apache is one of the major (and greatest ;-) ) projects in the Free
> Software world.
>
>>
>>> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
>>> FOSDEM with a booth.
>>
>> I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice
>> request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF
>> request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both
>> were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we
>> would share the table.
>
> We might get a problem, if both booths are granted, but in different
> places. It isn't a proper behavior to quit one of the booths in that case.
>
>>
>> So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would
>> try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.
>>
>> It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF
>> (deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the
>> lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that
>> the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under
>> whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.
>>
>
> Perhaps we should make a conditional request. But the best thing would
> be, that Daniel ask the orga sufficiently early before the deadline.
> They are all nice human beings.
>
> Regards
> Michael
>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>.
On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
>> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
>> FOSDEM 2016.
> 
> So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
> don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
> OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.

Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
Apache OpenOffice.

Apache is one of the major (and greatest ;-) ) projects in the Free
Software world.

> 
>> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
>> FOSDEM with a booth.
> 
> I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice
> request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF
> request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both
> were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we
> would share the table.

We might get a problem, if both booths are granted, but in different
places. It isn't a proper behavior to quit one of the booths in that case.

> 
> So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would
> try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.
> 
> It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF
> (deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the
> lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that
> the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under
> whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.
> 

Perhaps we should make a conditional request. But the best thing would
be, that Daniel ask the orga sufficiently early before the deadline.
They are all nice human beings.

Regards
Michael




Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>.
On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
>> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
>> FOSDEM 2016.
> 
> So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
> don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
> OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.

Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
Apache OpenOffice.

Apache is one of the major (and greatest ;-) ) projects in the Free
Software world.

> 
>> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
>> FOSDEM with a booth.
> 
> I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice
> request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF
> request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both
> were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we
> would share the table.

We might get a problem, if both booths are granted, but in different
places. It isn't a proper behavior to quit one of the booths in that case.

> 
> So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would
> try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.
> 
> It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF
> (deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the
> lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that
> the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under
> whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.
> 

Perhaps we should make a conditional request. But the best thing would
be, that Daniel ask the orga sufficiently early before the deadline.
They are all nice human beings.

Regards
Michael




Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
> FOSDEM 2016.

So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We 
don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and 
OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.

> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
> FOSDEM with a booth.

I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice 
request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF 
request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both 
were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we 
would share the table.

So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would 
try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.

It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF 
(deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the 
lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that 
the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under 
whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
> FOSDEM 2016.

So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We 
don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and 
OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.

> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
> FOSDEM with a booth.

I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice 
request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF 
request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both 
were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we 
would share the table.

So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would 
try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.

It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF 
(deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the 
lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that 
the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under 
whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.

Regards,
   Andrea.

Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>.
On 28.09.2015 22:45, Guy Waterval wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm intending to come to help you on the stand for french speakers. It will
> be a real pleasure to meet you again.
> 
> Regards
> 
We also look forward to meet you again.

Regards
Michael


Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>.
On 28.09.2015 22:45, Guy Waterval wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm intending to come to help you on the stand for french speakers. It will
> be a real pleasure to meet you again.
> 
> Regards
> 
We also look forward to meet you again.

Regards
Michael


Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by Guy Waterval <wa...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I'm intending to come to help you on the stand for french speakers. It will
be a real pleasure to meet you again.

Regards
-- 
gw

2015-09-28 9:48 GMT+02:00 RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>:

> Hello,
>
> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
> FOSDEM 2016.
>
> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
> FOSDEM with a booth.
>
> Kind regards
> Michael
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Posted by Guy Waterval <wa...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I'm intending to come to help you on the stand for french speakers. It will
be a real pleasure to meet you again.

Regards
-- 
gw

2015-09-28 9:48 GMT+02:00 RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>:

> Hello,
>
> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
> FOSDEM 2016.
>
> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
> FOSDEM with a booth.
>
> Kind regards
> Michael
>
>