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[users@httpd] Q) apache + W2008R2 + NLB
Hi
I am in the situation where I am looking at replacing a rhel LVS + apache load balanced reverse proxy with Windows, I have started to look at IIS7. But I am thinking I would rather use apache.
Has anyone on the list used apache on W 2008 R2 and have the used it with the Microsoft NLB. Does it work ?
Thanks
Alex
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RE: [users@httpd] Q) apache + W2008R2 + NLB
Posted by Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <Al...@yieldbroker.com>.
Hi
Great, currently the set I have is IPVS (rhel) -> apache 2.2 mpm using mod_proxy_ajp -> jboss cluster
I guess I should have specified mod_proxy_ajp and not tomcat connector - they are sort of the same in my mind :)
(can't believe I am saying this), but its actually cheaper to run 2 IIS server over a 3 year period (especially with Centos not being able to do a 6.1 release !) , so we are looking at windows and thus started with IIS.
But what I am seeing is that I can take my IIS config and move it across to W2K8 with apache and have it work there... I do love using config files over point and click..
As for http or ajp connectors, I believe (and I could be wrong), that the ajp is faster ? than straight http ...
Thanks
Alex
-----Original Message-----
From: congo thomas [mailto:apache@thva.dk]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2011 9:25 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Q) apache + W2008R2 + NLB
On Tue, December 6, 2011 20:35, Yehuda Katz wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <
> Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com> wrote:
>>
>> 1) any idea if there is a tomcat (AJP) connector that would work or
>> are all the standard modules compiled
>>
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-4.0-doc/config/ajp.html
just to make clear of the tomcat versions:
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/ajp.html
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/ajp.html
- I use tomcat6 in various contents both on win32 and win64 and rhel64, thinking of upgrading to tomcat7 or finding another servlet container for the java... if you dont dare to encounter ajp, you can always proxypass or even balance several tomcats with apache (either http or ajp in front of tomcat).
>
> Binaries for mod_jk are available for several platforms in the same
> area as
>> the Tomcat Binary Release. The binaries are located in subdirectories
>> by platform. For some platforms, such as Windows, this is the typical
>> way of obtaining mod_jk since most Windows systems do not have C
>> compilers. For others, the binary distribution of mod_jk offers
>> simpler installation.
>
>
>
>> 2) what worker model is it mpm or single thread ?
>
> There is a special MPM for Windows.
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mpm_winnt.html
>
br
congo
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Re: [users@httpd] Q) apache + W2008R2 + NLB
Posted by congo thomas <ap...@thva.dk>.
On Tue, December 6, 2011 20:35, Yehuda Katz wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <
> Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com> wrote:
>>
>> 1) any idea if there is a tomcat (AJP) connector that would work or are
>> all the standard modules compiled
>>
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-4.0-doc/config/ajp.html
just to make clear of the tomcat versions:
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/ajp.html
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/ajp.html
- I use tomcat6 in various contents both on win32 and win64 and rhel64,
thinking of upgrading to tomcat7 or finding another servlet container for
the java... if you dont dare to encounter ajp, you can always proxypass
or even balance several tomcats with apache (either http or ajp in front
of tomcat).
>
> Binaries for mod_jk are available for several platforms in the same area
> as
>> the Tomcat Binary Release. The binaries are located in subdirectories by
>> platform. For some platforms, such as Windows, this is the typical way
>> of
>> obtaining mod_jk since most Windows systems do not have C compilers. For
>> others, the binary distribution of mod_jk offers simpler installation.
>
>
>
>> 2) what worker model is it mpm or single thread ?
>
> There is a special MPM for Windows.
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mpm_winnt.html
>
br
congo
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Re: [users@httpd] Q) apache + W2008R2 + NLB
Posted by Yehuda Katz <ye...@ymkatz.net>.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <
Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com> wrote:
>
> 1) any idea if there is a tomcat (AJP) connector that would work or are
> all the standard modules compiled
>
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-4.0-doc/config/ajp.html
Binaries for mod_jk are available for several platforms in the same area as
> the Tomcat Binary Release. The binaries are located in subdirectories by
> platform. For some platforms, such as Windows, this is the typical way of
> obtaining mod_jk since most Windows systems do not have C compilers. For
> others, the binary distribution of mod_jk offers simpler installation.
> 2) what worker model is it mpm or single thread ?
There is a special MPM for Windows.
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mpm_winnt.html
RE: [users@httpd] Q) apache + W2008R2 + NLB
Posted by Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <Al...@yieldbroker.com>.
Hi
Thanks, I suppose the finally questions for this are
1) any idea if there is a tomcat (AJP) connector that would work or are all the standard modules compiled
2) what worker model is it mpm or single thread ?
Alex
-----Original Message-----
From: Rapp, James [mailto:james.rapp@sap.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2011 3:23 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Q) apache + W2008R2 + NLB
Hi Yehuda,
Apache works fine with Microsoft NLB. You can set the Listen directive to the NLB IP address and you should have no problem binding to that interface.
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mpm_common.html#listen
Good luck.
Jim
James Rapp
Senior Ecosystem Quality Manager, Global Ecosystem and Delivery Partners, AGS Primary Support
From: Yehuda Katz [mailto:yehuda@ymkatz.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:27 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Q) apache + W2008R2 + NLB
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <Al...@yieldbroker.com> wrote:
Hi
I am in the situation where I am looking at replacing a rhel LVS + apache load balanced reverse proxy with Windows, I have started to look at IIS7. But I am thinking I would rather use apache.
Has anyone on the list used apache on W 2008 R2 and have the used it with the Microsoft NLB. Does it work ?
Apache works very well on Server 2008 R2 (I have several servers using it).
I suggest you get the pre-compiled version from Apache Lounge (or 64-bit) instead of from apache.org.
Installing it in a path with no spaces on the C: drive (I use C:\Webserv) will make sure you do not run into trouble later because of those issues.
I have never had the need for NLB, but there should be no reason it would not work (Source).
- Y
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RE: [users@httpd] Q) apache + W2008R2 + NLB
Posted by "Rapp, James" <ja...@sap.com>.
Hi Yehuda,
Apache works fine with Microsoft NLB. You can set the Listen directive to the NLB IP address and you should have no problem binding to that interface.
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mpm_common.html#listen
Good luck.
Jim
James Rapp
Senior Ecosystem Quality Manager, Global Ecosystem and Delivery Partners, AGS Primary Support
From: Yehuda Katz [mailto:yehuda@ymkatz.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:27 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Q) apache + W2008R2 + NLB
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <Al...@yieldbroker.com> wrote:
Hi
I am in the situation where I am looking at replacing a rhel LVS + apache load balanced reverse proxy with Windows, I have started to look at IIS7. But I am thinking I would rather use apache.
Has anyone on the list used apache on W 2008 R2 and have the used it with the Microsoft NLB. Does it work ?
Apache works very well on Server 2008 R2 (I have several servers using it).
I suggest you get the pre-compiled version from Apache Lounge (or 64-bit) instead of from apache.org.
Installing it in a path with no spaces on the C: drive (I use C:\Webserv) will make sure you do not run into trouble later because of those issues.
I have never had the need for NLB, but there should be no reason it would not work (Source).
- Y
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Re: [users@httpd] Q) apache + W2008R2 + NLB
Posted by Yehuda Katz <ye...@ymkatz.net>.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <
Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am in the situation where I am looking at replacing a rhel LVS + apache
> load balanced reverse proxy with Windows, I have started to look at IIS7.
> But I am thinking I would rather use apache.
>
> Has anyone on the list used apache on W 2008 R2 and have the used it with
> the Microsoft NLB. Does it work ?
>
Apache works very well on Server 2008 R2 (I have several servers using it).
I suggest you get the pre-compiled version from Apache
Lounge<http://www.apachelounge.com/download/> (or
64-bit <http://www.apachelounge.com/download/win64/>) instead of from
apache.org.
Installing it in a path with no spaces on the C: drive (I use C:\Webserv)
will make sure you do not run into trouble later because of those issues.
I have never had the need for NLB, but there should be no reason it would
not work (Source<http://people.apache.org/~sctemme/ApconUS2007/scalingout.pdf>
).
- Y