Interesting quote....

[Jon Scott Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>]

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"My attitude is, everybody should try competing with Microsoft once in their
life. Once." -- Marc Andreessen


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Re: Interesting quote....

[Vladimir Bossicard <vl...@bossicard.com>]

> I guess, for Marc, Failure IS an option.... For most of us, it is not.

Since you can't be sure to succeed, failure is always an option.  Even 
if you don't plan to take it.

If you don't want to fail, simply do not try anything.  But if you you 
want to try, failure is part of the risks.

-Vladimir

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Re: Interesting quote....

[Kief Morris <ki...@bitbull.com>]

Vladimir Bossicard typed the following on 10:29 AM 6/17/2002 -0700
>> his attitute that you should 
>> compete against Microsoft only "once" is what makes him a failure.
>
>"My attitude is, everybody should try competing with Microsoft once in 
>their life. Once."
>
>I understand the quote as Marc meaning "[at least] once" and not "[at 
>most] once".

I dunno, the repetition of "once", combined with his current venture not
apparently being in competition with MS, leads me to think he means
once is enough, although a good character building exercise.

As in, "Don't call me an idiot. My mother called me an idiot once. Once."

Kief


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Re: Interesting quote....

[Vladimir Bossicard <vl...@bossicard.com>]

> his attitute that you should 
> compete against Microsoft only "once" is what makes him a failure.

"My attitude is, everybody should try competing with Microsoft once in 
their life. Once."

I understand the quote as Marc meaning "[at least] once" and not "[at 
most] once".  But it's interpretation.  Ever tried to convince a child 
to eat his vegetables?  Chances are that you'll say "try it once"...

-Vladimir

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Re: Interesting quote....

[Shantul Nigam <Sh...@Mac.com>]

I was responding to the quote. Netscape is finally back on track and the 
shift to browsers is a success, however, his attitute that you should 
compete against Microsoft only "once" is what makes him a failure. Most 
of us live by the adage "...Try, try again....". Nothing cannot be beat. 
Not even Microsoft.

Netscape had a chance but blew it. Apple had a chance and blew it. Java 
right now has a chance and may actually succeed. Linux has a chance. The 
difference? People behind these technologies fought Microsoft and lost 
once, now they are back. SUN, IBM, Oracle, AOL, Ximian, KDE, GNOME, GNU. 
The attitude is different. That is what I mean.

It is ok to not succeed. It is failure to give up. Saying you should 
compete only once is failure.


Conor MacNeill wrote:

> Shantul Nigam wrote:
>
>> I guess, for Marc, Failure IS an option.... For most of us, it is not.
>>
>
> Huh? How is Andreessen a failure?
>
> "The good news is, it's everywhere now. The concept is everywhere, the 
> implementations are everywhere, everybody uses it, everybody 
> understands the metaphor and the shift in the architecture of 
> computing around the browser is very serious."
>
> Perhaps he doesn't measure success in terms of market share :-)
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Re: Interesting quote....

[Conor MacNeill <co...@cortexebusiness.com.au>]

Shantul Nigam wrote:
> I guess, for Marc, Failure IS an option.... For most of us, it is not.
> 

Huh? How is Andreessen a failure?

"The good news is, it's everywhere now. The concept is everywhere, the 
implementations are everywhere, everybody uses it, everybody understands 
the metaphor and the shift in the architecture of computing around the 
browser is very serious."

Perhaps he doesn't measure success in terms of market share :-)


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Re: Interesting quote....

[Shantul Nigam <Sh...@Mac.com>]

I guess, for Marc, Failure IS an option.... For most of us, it is not.

lloyd wrote:

> Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
>
>> "My attitude is, everybody should try competing with Microsoft once 
>> in their
>> life. Once." -- Marc Andreessen
>
>
> ...and then, apparently, to get so cozy with them that you're 
> unwilling to even comment on their antitrust situation.
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Re: Interesting quote....

[lloyd <su...@twilight-systems.com>]

Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> "My attitude is, everybody should try competing with Microsoft once in their
> life. Once." -- Marc Andreessen

...and then, apparently, to get so cozy with them that you're unwilling 
to even comment on their antitrust situation.



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