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Posted to dev@groovy.apache.org by Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> on 2020/05/20 01:40:45 UTC

logo permission

Hello,

I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice extension to add Apache 
Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.

The extensions require a small thumbnail image that displays in the 
Extension Manager for each installed extension beside the extension 
title and description.

I request to use the Groovy star logo for this thumbnail if possible as 
Groovy is the whole point of the extension.

Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a personal project for the 
time being and I plan on releasing it through our 
extensions.openoffice.org site under the Apache license.

I can send a screenshot if you would like to see the intended usage.
I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me directly.

Best regards,
Carl Marcum


Re: logo permission

Posted by Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org>.
On 5/19/20 9:40 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice extension to add Apache 
> Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>
> The extensions require a small thumbnail image that displays in the 
> Extension Manager for each installed extension beside the extension 
> title and description.
>
> I request to use the Groovy star logo for this thumbnail if possible 
> as Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>
> Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a personal project for 
> the time being and I plan on releasing it through our 
> extensions.openoffice.org site under the Apache license.
>
> I can send a screenshot if you would like to see the intended usage.
> I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me directly.
>
> Best regards,
> Carl Marcum
>


Thanks !!
I saw the approval on the issue.

Best regards,
Carl

Re: logo permission

Posted by MG <mg...@arscreat.com>.
On 24/05/2020 16:16, Carl Marcum wrote:
> I could use either one if the project prefers one over the other.
> However I own two shirts with the star logo:)

Putting it like that is actually refreshingly funny ;-)

My 10 cents: If using the more official logo based on a five-pointed 
star in the required size does not run into the technical problems I 
have (independent of my own like or dislikes of the logo) given, I would 
use that, it is most likely the better known one and I don't see that 
changing in the near or intermediate future.

Cheers,
mg




Re: logo permission

Posted by Carl Marcum <ca...@gmail.com>.
I could use either one if the project prefers one over the other.
However I own two shirts with the star logo:)

Best regards,
Carl

On 5/20/20 3:47 PM, MG wrote:
> I have added a comment suggesting considering using the Groovy 
> "icon"/Jira logo instead of the communist star one 
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star) G-)
> Cheers,
> mg
>
> On 20/05/2020 20:00, Carl Marcum wrote:
>> I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum <cmarcum@apache.org 
>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Paul,
>>
>>     Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some reason so I'm
>>     getting with infra about it.
>>
>>     I'll post back the issue when created.
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     Carl
>>
>>     On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
>>     > Hi Carl,
>>     >
>>     > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo that we'd
>>     like to
>>     > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue and attach a
>>     > screenshot.
>>     >
>>     > Thanks, Paul.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum
>>     <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>     > <mailto:cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     >     Hello,
>>     >
>>     >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice extension to
>>     add Apache
>>     >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>>     >
>>     >     The extensions require a small thumbnail image that
>>     displays in the
>>     >     Extension Manager for each installed extension beside the
>>     extension
>>     >     title and description.
>>     >
>>     >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this thumbnail if
>>     >     possible as
>>     >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>>     >
>>     >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a personal
>>     project
>>     >     for the
>>     >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>>     > extensions.openoffice.org <http://extensions.openoffice.org>
>>     <http://extensions.openoffice.org> site
>>     >     under the Apache license.
>>     >
>>     >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see the
>>     intended usage.
>>     >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me directly.
>>     >
>>     >     Best regards,
>>     >     Carl Marcum
>>     >
>>
>


Re: logo permission

Posted by MG <mg...@arscreat.com>.
Still not trolling, even if you keep pounding that :-)

But I have given my arguments and said all I want on this (by now very 
off) topic, so I would let it rest there: I have never liked the Groovy 
logo, in part due to me associating it with the Soviet Union and left 
wing terrorism, but I love Groovy, so peace out G-)

Cheers,
mg


On 21/05/2020 04:21, Jim White wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:11 PM MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com 
> <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
>
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star
>
>
> As I said, the essential element here is the "red" and definitely not 
> the "star".
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States
>
> Hence, we remain puzzled why you're trolling us with any sort of 
> connection between the Groovy star logo (it's light/grey blue) and the 
> Communist Red Star.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
>
>     "A red star, five-pointed and filled (★), is an important symbol
>     that has often historically been associated with communist
>     ideology, particularly in combination with the hammer and sickle,
>     but is also used as a purely socialist symbol in the 21st century."
>
>     How do you not know that *puzzled* ?
>
>     I agree with the Groovy support, though...
>     mg
>
>
>     On 21/05/2020 03:54, Jim White wrote:
>>     On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:49 PM MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com
>>     <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         NEVER ? Not even a little ? Come on...
>>
>>         Socialist/communist red star:
>>
>>
>>
>>     You're trolling us, right?  The only thing "Communist" about that
>>     is the red.  The figure is purely a filled pentagram.
>>
>>     Great to see OpenOffice getting renewed support for Groovy scripting.
>>
>>     -- Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Scale horizontally:
>>
>>
>>
>>         Change fill color, add black outline:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Add font-of-choice groovy text:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         That's why I jokingly call it the communist logo.
>>         I personally agree with the recent critique towards the logo
>>         looking old and not entirely professional, but apart from
>>         that the fact that it is quite wide makes it not a good fit
>>         with regards to being used as an icon:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         It also does not scale well down to small size:
>>
>>
>>
>>         But it was just a suggestion,
>>         Cheers,
>>         mg
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 20/05/2020 22:22, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>>         I have NEVER considered the Groovy logo to look like the
>>>         communist star. As a matter of fact, I find the Groovy Star
>>>         logo easily recognizable, and in the given case, I like it
>>>         over the circled G.
>>>
>>>         Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>>         Søren Berg Glasius
>>>
>>>         Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>>         Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
>>>         --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>>
>>>
>>>         Den ons. 20. maj 2020 kl. 21.47 skrev MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com
>>>         <ma...@arscreat.com>>:
>>>
>>>             I have added a comment suggesting considering using the
>>>             Groovy "icon"/Jira logo instead of the communist star
>>>             one (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star) G-)
>>>             Cheers,
>>>             mg
>>>
>>>             On 20/05/2020 20:00, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>>             I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
>>>>             Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>>
>>>>             [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564
>>>>
>>>>             On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum
>>>>             <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>>                 Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some
>>>>                 reason so I'm
>>>>                 getting with infra about it.
>>>>
>>>>                 I'll post back the issue when created.
>>>>
>>>>                 Thanks,
>>>>                 Carl
>>>>
>>>>                 On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
>>>>                 > Hi Carl,
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy
>>>>                 logo that we'd like to
>>>>                 > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira
>>>>                 issue and attach a
>>>>                 > screenshot.
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 > Thanks, Paul.
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum
>>>>                 <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>                 > <mailto:cmarcum@apache.org
>>>>                 <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 >     Hello,
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice
>>>>                 extension to add Apache
>>>>                 >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 >     The extensions require a small thumbnail
>>>>                 image that displays in the
>>>>                 >     Extension Manager for each installed
>>>>                 extension beside the extension
>>>>                 >     title and description.
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for
>>>>                 this thumbnail if
>>>>                 >     possible as
>>>>                 >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is
>>>>                 a personal project
>>>>                 >     for the
>>>>                 >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>>>>                 > extensions.openoffice.org
>>>>                 <http://extensions.openoffice.org>
>>>>                 <http://extensions.openoffice.org> site
>>>>                 >     under the Apache license.
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to
>>>>                 see the intended usage.
>>>>                 >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to
>>>>                 contact me directly.
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 >     Best regards,
>>>>                 >     Carl Marcum
>>>>                 >
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


Re: logo permission

Posted by Jim White <ja...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:11 PM MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star
>

As I said, the essential element here is the "red" and definitely not the
"star".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States

Hence, we remain puzzled why you're trolling us with any sort of connection
between the Groovy star logo (it's light/grey blue) and the Communist Red
Star.

-- Jim


>
>
> "A red star, five-pointed and filled (★), is an important symbol that has
> often historically been associated with communist ideology, particularly in
> combination with the hammer and sickle, but is also used as a purely
> socialist symbol in the 21st century."
>
> How do you not know that *puzzled* ?
>
> I agree with the Groovy support, though...
> mg
>
>
> On 21/05/2020 03:54, Jim White wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:49 PM MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>
>> NEVER ? Not even a little ? Come on...
>>
>> Socialist/communist red star:
>>
>>
>>
> You're trolling us, right?  The only thing "Communist" about that is the
> red.  The figure is purely a filled pentagram.
>
> Great to see OpenOffice getting renewed support for Groovy scripting.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Scale horizontally:
>>
>>
>>
>> Change fill color, add black outline:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Add font-of-choice groovy text:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> That's why I jokingly call it the communist logo.
>> I personally agree with the recent critique towards the logo looking old
>> and not entirely professional, but apart from that the fact that it is
>> quite wide makes it not a good fit with regards to being used as an icon:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It also does not scale well down to small size:
>>
>>
>>
>> But it was just a suggestion,
>> Cheers,
>> mg
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20/05/2020 22:22, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>
>> I have NEVER considered the Groovy logo to look like the communist star.
>> As a matter of fact, I find the Groovy Star logo easily recognizable, and
>> in the given case, I like it over the circled G.
>>
>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>> Søren Berg Glasius
>>
>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>
>>
>> Den ons. 20. maj 2020 kl. 21.47 skrev MG <mg...@arscreat.com>:
>>
>>> I have added a comment suggesting considering using the Groovy
>>> "icon"/Jira logo instead of the communist star one (
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star) G-)
>>> Cheers,
>>> mg
>>>
>>> On 20/05/2020 20:00, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>
>>> I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>> Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some reason so I'm
>>>> getting with infra about it.
>>>>
>>>> I'll post back the issue when created.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>> On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
>>>> > Hi Carl,
>>>> >
>>>> > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo that we'd like to
>>>> > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue and attach a
>>>> > screenshot.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks, Paul.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum <cmarcum@apache.org
>>>> > <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >     Hello,
>>>> >
>>>> >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice extension to add
>>>> Apache
>>>> >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>>>> >
>>>> >     The extensions require a small thumbnail image that displays in
>>>> the
>>>> >     Extension Manager for each installed extension beside the
>>>> extension
>>>> >     title and description.
>>>> >
>>>> >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this thumbnail if
>>>> >     possible as
>>>> >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>>>> >
>>>> >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a personal project
>>>> >     for the
>>>> >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>>>> >     extensions.openoffice.org <http://extensions.openoffice.org> site
>>>> >     under the Apache license.
>>>> >
>>>> >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see the intended
>>>> usage.
>>>> >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me directly.
>>>> >
>>>> >     Best regards,
>>>> >     Carl Marcum
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: logo permission

Posted by MG <mg...@arscreat.com>.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star

"A red star, five-pointed and filled (★), is an important symbol that 
has often historically been associated with communist ideology, 
particularly in combination with the hammer and sickle, but is also used 
as a purely socialist symbol in the 21st century."

How do you not know that *puzzled* ?

I agree with the Groovy support, though...
mg


On 21/05/2020 03:54, Jim White wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:49 PM MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com 
> <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
>
>     NEVER ? Not even a little ? Come on...
>
>     Socialist/communist red star:
>
>
>
> You're trolling us, right?  The only thing "Communist" about that is 
> the red.  The figure is purely a filled pentagram.
>
> Great to see OpenOffice getting renewed support for Groovy scripting.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>     Scale horizontally:
>
>
>
>     Change fill color, add black outline:
>
>
>
>
>     Add font-of-choice groovy text:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     That's why I jokingly call it the communist logo.
>     I personally agree with the recent critique towards the logo
>     looking old and not entirely professional, but apart from that the
>     fact that it is quite wide makes it not a good fit with regards to
>     being used as an icon:
>
>
>
>
>     It also does not scale well down to small size:
>
>
>
>     But it was just a suggestion,
>     Cheers,
>     mg
>
>
>
>     On 20/05/2020 22:22, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>     I have NEVER considered the Groovy logo to look like the
>>     communist star. As a matter of fact, I find the Groovy Star logo
>>     easily recognizable, and in the given case, I like it over the
>>     circled G.
>>
>>     Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>     Søren Berg Glasius
>>
>>     Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>     Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
>>     --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>
>>
>>     Den ons. 20. maj 2020 kl. 21.47 skrev MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com
>>     <ma...@arscreat.com>>:
>>
>>         I have added a comment suggesting considering using the
>>         Groovy "icon"/Jira logo instead of the communist star one
>>         (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star) G-)
>>         Cheers,
>>         mg
>>
>>         On 20/05/2020 20:00, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>         I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
>>>         Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>>         [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564
>>>
>>>         On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum
>>>         <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi Paul,
>>>
>>>             Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some
>>>             reason so I'm
>>>             getting with infra about it.
>>>
>>>             I'll post back the issue when created.
>>>
>>>             Thanks,
>>>             Carl
>>>
>>>             On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
>>>             > Hi Carl,
>>>             >
>>>             > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo
>>>             that we'd like to
>>>             > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue
>>>             and attach a
>>>             > screenshot.
>>>             >
>>>             > Thanks, Paul.
>>>             >
>>>             >
>>>             > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum
>>>             <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>             > <mailto:cmarcum@apache.org
>>>             <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>             >
>>>             >     Hello,
>>>             >
>>>             >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice
>>>             extension to add Apache
>>>             >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>>>             >
>>>             >     The extensions require a small thumbnail image
>>>             that displays in the
>>>             >     Extension Manager for each installed extension
>>>             beside the extension
>>>             >     title and description.
>>>             >
>>>             >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this
>>>             thumbnail if
>>>             >     possible as
>>>             >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>>>             >
>>>             >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a
>>>             personal project
>>>             >     for the
>>>             >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>>>             > extensions.openoffice.org
>>>             <http://extensions.openoffice.org>
>>>             <http://extensions.openoffice.org> site
>>>             >     under the Apache license.
>>>             >
>>>             >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see
>>>             the intended usage.
>>>             >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me
>>>             directly.
>>>             >
>>>             >     Best regards,
>>>             >     Carl Marcum
>>>             >
>>>
>>
>


Re: logo permission

Posted by MG <mg...@arscreat.com>.
More broadly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_symbolism

 From Germany's more recent history:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction

Later design of the RAF's insignia showing a red star and a Heckler & 
Koch MP5 submachine gun


On 21/05/2020 03:54, Jim White wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:49 PM MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com 
> <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
>
>     NEVER ? Not even a little ? Come on...
>
>     Socialist/communist red star:
>
>
>
> You're trolling us, right?  The only thing "Communist" about that is 
> the red.  The figure is purely a filled pentagram.
>
> Great to see OpenOffice getting renewed support for Groovy scripting.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>     Scale horizontally:
>
>
>
>     Change fill color, add black outline:
>
>
>
>
>     Add font-of-choice groovy text:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     That's why I jokingly call it the communist logo.
>     I personally agree with the recent critique towards the logo
>     looking old and not entirely professional, but apart from that the
>     fact that it is quite wide makes it not a good fit with regards to
>     being used as an icon:
>
>
>
>
>     It also does not scale well down to small size:
>
>
>
>     But it was just a suggestion,
>     Cheers,
>     mg
>
>
>
>     On 20/05/2020 22:22, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>     I have NEVER considered the Groovy logo to look like the
>>     communist star. As a matter of fact, I find the Groovy Star logo
>>     easily recognizable, and in the given case, I like it over the
>>     circled G.
>>
>>     Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>     Søren Berg Glasius
>>
>>     Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>     Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
>>     --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>
>>
>>     Den ons. 20. maj 2020 kl. 21.47 skrev MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com
>>     <ma...@arscreat.com>>:
>>
>>         I have added a comment suggesting considering using the
>>         Groovy "icon"/Jira logo instead of the communist star one
>>         (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star) G-)
>>         Cheers,
>>         mg
>>
>>         On 20/05/2020 20:00, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>         I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
>>>         Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>>         [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564
>>>
>>>         On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum
>>>         <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi Paul,
>>>
>>>             Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some
>>>             reason so I'm
>>>             getting with infra about it.
>>>
>>>             I'll post back the issue when created.
>>>
>>>             Thanks,
>>>             Carl
>>>
>>>             On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
>>>             > Hi Carl,
>>>             >
>>>             > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo
>>>             that we'd like to
>>>             > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue
>>>             and attach a
>>>             > screenshot.
>>>             >
>>>             > Thanks, Paul.
>>>             >
>>>             >
>>>             > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum
>>>             <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>             > <mailto:cmarcum@apache.org
>>>             <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>             >
>>>             >     Hello,
>>>             >
>>>             >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice
>>>             extension to add Apache
>>>             >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>>>             >
>>>             >     The extensions require a small thumbnail image
>>>             that displays in the
>>>             >     Extension Manager for each installed extension
>>>             beside the extension
>>>             >     title and description.
>>>             >
>>>             >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this
>>>             thumbnail if
>>>             >     possible as
>>>             >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>>>             >
>>>             >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a
>>>             personal project
>>>             >     for the
>>>             >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>>>             > extensions.openoffice.org
>>>             <http://extensions.openoffice.org>
>>>             <http://extensions.openoffice.org> site
>>>             >     under the Apache license.
>>>             >
>>>             >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see
>>>             the intended usage.
>>>             >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me
>>>             directly.
>>>             >
>>>             >     Best regards,
>>>             >     Carl Marcum
>>>             >
>>>
>>
>


Re: logo permission

Posted by OCsite <oc...@ocs.cz>.
> On 21 May 2020, at 4:08, MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
> Also a possible association, especially if you are coming from California

Well not me, but I've got an old friend who lives in Palm Springs, and he usually spells it “Commiefornia”. Looks like we found a connexion! :P

All the best,
OC


> , though certainly much less widely known...
> 
> On 21/05/2020 03:59, OCsite wrote:
>> Indeed!
>> 
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:California_Lone_Star_Flag_1836.svg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:California_Lone_Star_Flag_1836.svg>
>> 
>> :)
>> 
>>> On 21 May 2020, at 3:54, Jim White <james.paul.white@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:49 PM MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
>>> NEVER ? Not even a little ? Come on...
>>> 
>>> Socialist/communist red star:
>>> 
>>> <cbgnpjejpaanpadf.png>
>>> 
>>> You're trolling us, right?  The only thing "Communist" about that is the red.  The figure is purely a filled pentagram.
>>> 
>>> Great to see OpenOffice getting renewed support for Groovy scripting.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Scale horizontally:
>>> <ogfolohcpkhomgbp.png>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Change fill color, add black outline:
>>> 
>>> <dhbapleellmmpflb.png>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Add font-of-choice groovy text:
>>> 
>>> <mochanaaglpknahg.png>
>>> 
>>> <cmgmoohcmmogiejp.png>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <lfajfocefpojgkkn.png>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <bcidlgnjdjbpflja.png>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That's why I jokingly call it the communist logo. 
>>> I personally agree with the recent critique towards the logo looking old and not entirely professional, but apart from that the fact that it is quite wide makes it not a good fit with regards to being used as an icon:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <ikcadfipnbmpnokg.png><nilfejibfldkefhh.png>
>>> 
>>> It also does not scale well down to small size:
>>> 
>>> <jcnaagllpmmklbpo.png><mehdjlkjfnjhcboh.png>
>>> 
>>> But it was just a suggestion,
>>> Cheers,
>>> mg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 20/05/2020 22:22, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>>> I have NEVER considered the Groovy logo to look like the communist star. As a matter of fact, I find the Groovy Star logo easily recognizable, and in the given case, I like it over the circled G.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>>> Søren Berg Glasius
>>>> 
>>>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
>>>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Den ons. 20. maj 2020 kl. 21.47 skrev MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com <ma...@arscreat.com>>:
>>>> I have added a comment suggesting considering using the Groovy "icon"/Jira logo instead of the communist star one (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star>) G-)
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> mg
>>>> 
>>>> On 20/05/2020 20:00, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>>> I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
>>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564>
>>>>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some reason so I'm 
>>>>> getting with infra about it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll post back the issue when created.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Carl
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
>>>>> > Hi Carl,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo that we'd like to 
>>>>> > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue and attach a 
>>>>> > screenshot.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks, Paul.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org> 
>>>>> > <mailto:cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     Hello,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice extension to add Apache
>>>>> >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     The extensions require a small thumbnail image that displays in the
>>>>> >     Extension Manager for each installed extension beside the extension
>>>>> >     title and description.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this thumbnail if
>>>>> >     possible as
>>>>> >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a personal project
>>>>> >     for the
>>>>> >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>>>>> >     extensions.openoffice.org <http://extensions.openoffice.org/> <http://extensions.openoffice.org <http://extensions.openoffice.org/>> site
>>>>> >     under the Apache license.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see the intended usage.
>>>>> >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me directly.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     Best regards,
>>>>> >     Carl Marcum
>>>>> >
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 


Re: logo permission

Posted by MG <mg...@arscreat.com>.
Also a possible association, especially if you are coming from 
California, though certainly much less widely known...

On 21/05/2020 03:59, OCsite wrote:
> Indeed!
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:California_Lone_Star_Flag_1836.svg
>
> :)
>
>> On 21 May 2020, at 3:54, Jim White <james.paul.white@gmail.com 
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:49 PM MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com 
>> <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     NEVER ? Not even a little ? Come on...
>>
>>     Socialist/communist red star:
>>
>>     <cbgnpjejpaanpadf.png>
>>
>>
>> You're trolling us, right?  The only thing "Communist" about that is 
>> the red.  The figure is purely a filled pentagram.
>>
>> Great to see OpenOffice getting renewed support for Groovy scripting.
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Scale horizontally:
>>     <ogfolohcpkhomgbp.png>
>>
>>
>>     Change fill color, add black outline:
>>
>>     <dhbapleellmmpflb.png>
>>
>>
>>     Add font-of-choice groovy text:
>>
>>     <mochanaaglpknahg.png>
>>
>>     <cmgmoohcmmogiejp.png>
>>
>>
>>
>>     <lfajfocefpojgkkn.png>
>>
>>
>>
>>     <bcidlgnjdjbpflja.png>
>>
>>
>>
>>     That's why I jokingly call it the communist logo.
>>     I personally agree with the recent critique towards the logo
>>     looking old and not entirely professional, but apart from that
>>     the fact that it is quite wide makes it not a good fit with
>>     regards to being used as an icon:
>>
>>
>>     <ikcadfipnbmpnokg.png><nilfejibfldkefhh.png>
>>
>>     It also does not scale well down to small size:
>>
>>     <jcnaagllpmmklbpo.png><mehdjlkjfnjhcboh.png>
>>
>>     But it was just a suggestion,
>>     Cheers,
>>     mg
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 20/05/2020 22:22, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>>     I have NEVER considered the Groovy logo to look like the
>>>     communist star. As a matter of fact, I find the Groovy Star logo
>>>     easily recognizable, and in the given case, I like it over the
>>>     circled G.
>>>
>>>     Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>>     Søren Berg Glasius
>>>
>>>     Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>>     Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
>>>     --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Den ons. 20. maj 2020 kl. 21.47 skrev MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com
>>>     <ma...@arscreat.com>>:
>>>
>>>         I have added a comment suggesting considering using the
>>>         Groovy "icon"/Jira logo instead of the communist star one
>>>         (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star) G-)
>>>         Cheers,
>>>         mg
>>>
>>>         On 20/05/2020 20:00, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>>         I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
>>>>         Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>>
>>>>         [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564
>>>>
>>>>         On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum
>>>>         <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>>             Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some
>>>>             reason so I'm
>>>>             getting with infra about it.
>>>>
>>>>             I'll post back the issue when created.
>>>>
>>>>             Thanks,
>>>>             Carl
>>>>
>>>>             On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
>>>>             > Hi Carl,
>>>>             >
>>>>             > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo
>>>>             that we'd like to
>>>>             > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue
>>>>             and attach a
>>>>             > screenshot.
>>>>             >
>>>>             > Thanks, Paul.
>>>>             >
>>>>             >
>>>>             > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum
>>>>             <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>             > <mailto:cmarcum@apache.org
>>>>             <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>             >
>>>>             >     Hello,
>>>>             >
>>>>             >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice
>>>>             extension to add Apache
>>>>             >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>>>>             >
>>>>             >     The extensions require a small thumbnail image
>>>>             that displays in the
>>>>             >     Extension Manager for each installed extension
>>>>             beside the extension
>>>>             >     title and description.
>>>>             >
>>>>             >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this
>>>>             thumbnail if
>>>>             >     possible as
>>>>             >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>>>>             >
>>>>             >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a
>>>>             personal project
>>>>             >     for the
>>>>             >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>>>>             > extensions.openoffice.org
>>>>             <http://extensions.openoffice.org/>
>>>>             <http://extensions.openoffice.org
>>>>             <http://extensions.openoffice.org/>> site
>>>>             >     under the Apache license.
>>>>             >
>>>>             >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see
>>>>             the intended usage.
>>>>             >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me
>>>>             directly.
>>>>             >
>>>>             >     Best regards,
>>>>             >     Carl Marcum
>>>>             >
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


Re: logo permission

Posted by OCsite <oc...@ocs.cz>.
Indeed!

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:California_Lone_Star_Flag_1836.svg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:California_Lone_Star_Flag_1836.svg>

:)

> On 21 May 2020, at 3:54, Jim White <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:49 PM MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
> NEVER ? Not even a little ? Come on...
> 
> Socialist/communist red star:
> 
> <cbgnpjejpaanpadf.png>
> 
> You're trolling us, right?  The only thing "Communist" about that is the red.  The figure is purely a filled pentagram.
> 
> Great to see OpenOffice getting renewed support for Groovy scripting.
> 
> -- Jim
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Scale horizontally:
> <ogfolohcpkhomgbp.png>
> 
> 
> Change fill color, add black outline:
> 
> <dhbapleellmmpflb.png>
> 
> 
> Add font-of-choice groovy text:
> 
> <mochanaaglpknahg.png>
> 
> <cmgmoohcmmogiejp.png>
> 
> 
> 
> <lfajfocefpojgkkn.png>
> 
> 
> 
> <bcidlgnjdjbpflja.png>
> 
> 
> 
> That's why I jokingly call it the communist logo. 
> I personally agree with the recent critique towards the logo looking old and not entirely professional, but apart from that the fact that it is quite wide makes it not a good fit with regards to being used as an icon:
> 
> 
> <ikcadfipnbmpnokg.png><nilfejibfldkefhh.png>
> 
> It also does not scale well down to small size:
> 
> <jcnaagllpmmklbpo.png><mehdjlkjfnjhcboh.png>
> 
> But it was just a suggestion,
> Cheers,
> mg
> 
> 
> 
> On 20/05/2020 22:22, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>> I have NEVER considered the Groovy logo to look like the communist star. As a matter of fact, I find the Groovy Star logo easily recognizable, and in the given case, I like it over the circled G.
>> 
>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>> Søren Berg Glasius
>> 
>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>> 
>> 
>> Den ons. 20. maj 2020 kl. 21.47 skrev MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com <ma...@arscreat.com>>:
>> I have added a comment suggesting considering using the Groovy "icon"/Jira logo instead of the communist star one (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star>) G-)
>> Cheers,
>> mg
>> 
>> On 20/05/2020 20:00, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>> I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>> 
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564>
>>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>> Hi Paul,
>>> 
>>> Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some reason so I'm 
>>> getting with infra about it.
>>> 
>>> I'll post back the issue when created.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Carl
>>> 
>>> On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
>>> > Hi Carl,
>>> >
>>> > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo that we'd like to 
>>> > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue and attach a 
>>> > screenshot.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks, Paul.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org> 
>>> > <mailto:cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     Hello,
>>> >
>>> >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice extension to add Apache
>>> >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>>> >
>>> >     The extensions require a small thumbnail image that displays in the
>>> >     Extension Manager for each installed extension beside the extension
>>> >     title and description.
>>> >
>>> >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this thumbnail if
>>> >     possible as
>>> >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>>> >
>>> >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a personal project
>>> >     for the
>>> >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>>> >     extensions.openoffice.org <http://extensions.openoffice.org/> <http://extensions.openoffice.org <http://extensions.openoffice.org/>> site
>>> >     under the Apache license.
>>> >
>>> >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see the intended usage.
>>> >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me directly.
>>> >
>>> >     Best regards,
>>> >     Carl Marcum
>>> >
>>> 
>> 
> 


Re: logo permission

Posted by Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org>.

On 5/20/20 9:54 PM, Jim White wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:49 PM MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com 
> <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
>
>     NEVER ? Not even a little ? Come on...
>
>     Socialist/communist red star:
>
>
>
> You're trolling us, right?  The only thing "Communist" about that is 
> the red.  The figure is purely a filled pentagram.
>
> Great to see OpenOffice getting renewed support for Groovy scripting.

Thanks Jim,

I hope it takes off.
I'll post a project link once I've got the license stuff cleaned up and 
some docs done.

Carl

>
> -- Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>     Scale horizontally:
>
>
>
>     Change fill color, add black outline:
>
>
>
>
>     Add font-of-choice groovy text:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     That's why I jokingly call it the communist logo.
>     I personally agree with the recent critique towards the logo
>     looking old and not entirely professional, but apart from that the
>     fact that it is quite wide makes it not a good fit with regards to
>     being used as an icon:
>
>
>
>
>     It also does not scale well down to small size:
>
>
>
>     But it was just a suggestion,
>     Cheers,
>     mg
>
>
>
>     On 20/05/2020 22:22, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>     I have NEVER considered the Groovy logo to look like the
>>     communist star. As a matter of fact, I find the Groovy Star logo
>>     easily recognizable, and in the given case, I like it over the
>>     circled G.
>>
>>     Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>     Søren Berg Glasius
>>
>>     Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>     Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
>>     --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>
>>
>>     Den ons. 20. maj 2020 kl. 21.47 skrev MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com
>>     <ma...@arscreat.com>>:
>>
>>         I have added a comment suggesting considering using the
>>         Groovy "icon"/Jira logo instead of the communist star one
>>         (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star) G-)
>>         Cheers,
>>         mg
>>
>>         On 20/05/2020 20:00, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>         I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
>>>         Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>>         [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564
>>>
>>>         On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum
>>>         <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi Paul,
>>>
>>>             Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some
>>>             reason so I'm
>>>             getting with infra about it.
>>>
>>>             I'll post back the issue when created.
>>>
>>>             Thanks,
>>>             Carl
>>>
>>>             On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
>>>             > Hi Carl,
>>>             >
>>>             > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo
>>>             that we'd like to
>>>             > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue
>>>             and attach a
>>>             > screenshot.
>>>             >
>>>             > Thanks, Paul.
>>>             >
>>>             >
>>>             > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum
>>>             <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>             > <mailto:cmarcum@apache.org
>>>             <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>             >
>>>             >     Hello,
>>>             >
>>>             >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice
>>>             extension to add Apache
>>>             >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>>>             >
>>>             >     The extensions require a small thumbnail image
>>>             that displays in the
>>>             >     Extension Manager for each installed extension
>>>             beside the extension
>>>             >     title and description.
>>>             >
>>>             >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this
>>>             thumbnail if
>>>             >     possible as
>>>             >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>>>             >
>>>             >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a
>>>             personal project
>>>             >     for the
>>>             >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>>>             > extensions.openoffice.org
>>>             <http://extensions.openoffice.org>
>>>             <http://extensions.openoffice.org> site
>>>             >     under the Apache license.
>>>             >
>>>             >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see
>>>             the intended usage.
>>>             >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me
>>>             directly.
>>>             >
>>>             >     Best regards,
>>>             >     Carl Marcum
>>>             >
>>>
>>
>


Re: logo permission

Posted by Jim White <ja...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:49 PM MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:

> NEVER ? Not even a little ? Come on...
>
> Socialist/communist red star:
>
>
>
You're trolling us, right?  The only thing "Communist" about that is the
red.  The figure is purely a filled pentagram.

Great to see OpenOffice getting renewed support for Groovy scripting.

-- Jim


>
>
>
>
> Scale horizontally:
>
>
>
> Change fill color, add black outline:
>
>
>
>
> Add font-of-choice groovy text:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That's why I jokingly call it the communist logo.
> I personally agree with the recent critique towards the logo looking old
> and not entirely professional, but apart from that the fact that it is
> quite wide makes it not a good fit with regards to being used as an icon:
>
>
>
>
> It also does not scale well down to small size:
>
>
>
> But it was just a suggestion,
> Cheers,
> mg
>
>
>
> On 20/05/2020 22:22, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>
> I have NEVER considered the Groovy logo to look like the communist star.
> As a matter of fact, I find the Groovy Star logo easily recognizable, and
> in the given case, I like it over the circled G.
>
> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
> Søren Berg Glasius
>
> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>
>
> Den ons. 20. maj 2020 kl. 21.47 skrev MG <mg...@arscreat.com>:
>
>> I have added a comment suggesting considering using the Groovy
>> "icon"/Jira logo instead of the communist star one (
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star) G-)
>> Cheers,
>> mg
>>
>> On 20/05/2020 20:00, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>
>> I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some reason so I'm
>>> getting with infra about it.
>>>
>>> I'll post back the issue when created.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
>>> > Hi Carl,
>>> >
>>> > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo that we'd like to
>>> > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue and attach a
>>> > screenshot.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks, Paul.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum <cmarcum@apache.org
>>> > <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     Hello,
>>> >
>>> >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice extension to add
>>> Apache
>>> >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>>> >
>>> >     The extensions require a small thumbnail image that displays in the
>>> >     Extension Manager for each installed extension beside the extension
>>> >     title and description.
>>> >
>>> >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this thumbnail if
>>> >     possible as
>>> >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>>> >
>>> >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a personal project
>>> >     for the
>>> >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>>> >     extensions.openoffice.org <http://extensions.openoffice.org> site
>>> >     under the Apache license.
>>> >
>>> >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see the intended
>>> usage.
>>> >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me directly.
>>> >
>>> >     Best regards,
>>> >     Carl Marcum
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: logo permission

Posted by h2...@abula.org.
No. Never.

Are you sure you're not biased in any say? Not even a little? Come on...

Cheers,

Haakon Hansen
The "communist" kingdom of Norway

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Den 2020-05-21 03:48, skrev MG:
> NEVER ? Not even a little ? Come on...
> 
> Socialist/communist red star:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Scale horizontally:
> 
> 
> 
> Change fill color, add black outline:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Add font-of-choice groovy text:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> That's why I jokingly call it the communist logo.
> I personally agree with the recent critique towards the logo looking
> old and not entirely professional, but apart from that the fact that
> it is quite wide makes it not a good fit with regards to being used as
> an icon:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It also does not scale well down to small size:
> 
> 
> 
> But it was just a suggestion,
> Cheers,
> mg
> 
> 
> 
> On 20/05/2020 22:22, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>> I have NEVER considered the Groovy logo to look like the communist 
>> star. As a matter of fact, I find the Groovy Star logo easily 
>> recognizable, and in the given case, I like it over the circled G.
>> 
>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>> Søren Berg Glasius
>> 
>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>> 
>> 
>> Den ons. 20. maj 2020 kl. 21.47 skrev MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com 
>> <ma...@arscreat.com>>:
>> 
>>     I have added a comment suggesting considering using the Groovy
>>     "icon"/Jira logo instead of the communist star one
>>     (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star) G-)
>>     Cheers,
>>     mg
>> 
>>     On 20/05/2020 20:00, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>     I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
>>>     Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>> 
>>>     [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564
>>> 
>>>     On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum <cmarcum@apache.org
>>>     <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>         Hi Paul,
>>> 
>>>         Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some reason so
>>>         I'm
>>>         getting with infra about it.
>>> 
>>>         I'll post back the issue when created.
>>> 
>>>         Thanks,
>>>         Carl
>>> 
>>>         On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
>>>         > Hi Carl,
>>>         >
>>>         > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo that
>>>         we'd like to
>>>         > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue and
>>>         attach a
>>>         > screenshot.
>>>         >
>>>         > Thanks, Paul.
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum
>>>         <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>         > <mailto:cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>         >
>>>         >     Hello,
>>>         >
>>>         >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice extension
>>>         to add Apache
>>>         >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>>>         >
>>>         >     The extensions require a small thumbnail image that
>>>         displays in the
>>>         >     Extension Manager for each installed extension beside
>>>         the extension
>>>         >     title and description.
>>>         >
>>>         >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this 
>>> thumbnail if
>>>         >     possible as
>>>         >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>>>         >
>>>         >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a
>>>         personal project
>>>         >     for the
>>>         >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>>>         > extensions.openoffice.org
>>>         <http://extensions.openoffice.org>
>>>         <http://extensions.openoffice.org> site
>>>         >     under the Apache license.
>>>         >
>>>         >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see the
>>>         intended usage.
>>>         >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me 
>>> directly.
>>>         >
>>>         >     Best regards,
>>>         >     Carl Marcum
>>>         >
>>> 
>> 

Re: logo permission

Posted by MG <mg...@arscreat.com>.
NEVER ? Not even a little ? Come on...

Socialist/communist red star:






Scale horizontally:



Change fill color, add black outline:




Add font-of-choice groovy text:















That's why I jokingly call it the communist logo.
I personally agree with the recent critique towards the logo looking old 
and not entirely professional, but apart from that the fact that it is 
quite wide makes it not a good fit with regards to being used as an icon:




It also does not scale well down to small size:



But it was just a suggestion,
Cheers,
mg



On 20/05/2020 22:22, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
> I have NEVER considered the Groovy logo to look like the communist 
> star. As a matter of fact, I find the Groovy Star logo easily 
> recognizable, and in the given case, I like it over the circled G.
>
> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
> Søren Berg Glasius
>
> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>
>
> Den ons. 20. maj 2020 kl. 21.47 skrev MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com 
> <ma...@arscreat.com>>:
>
>     I have added a comment suggesting considering using the Groovy
>     "icon"/Jira logo instead of the communist star one
>     (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star) G-)
>     Cheers,
>     mg
>
>     On 20/05/2020 20:00, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>     I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
>>     Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>>     [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564
>>
>>     On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum <cmarcum@apache.org
>>     <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi Paul,
>>
>>         Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some reason so
>>         I'm
>>         getting with infra about it.
>>
>>         I'll post back the issue when created.
>>
>>         Thanks,
>>         Carl
>>
>>         On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
>>         > Hi Carl,
>>         >
>>         > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo that
>>         we'd like to
>>         > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue and
>>         attach a
>>         > screenshot.
>>         >
>>         > Thanks, Paul.
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum
>>         <cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>         > <mailto:cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>         >
>>         >     Hello,
>>         >
>>         >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice extension
>>         to add Apache
>>         >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>>         >
>>         >     The extensions require a small thumbnail image that
>>         displays in the
>>         >     Extension Manager for each installed extension beside
>>         the extension
>>         >     title and description.
>>         >
>>         >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this thumbnail if
>>         >     possible as
>>         >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>>         >
>>         >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a
>>         personal project
>>         >     for the
>>         >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>>         > extensions.openoffice.org
>>         <http://extensions.openoffice.org>
>>         <http://extensions.openoffice.org> site
>>         >     under the Apache license.
>>         >
>>         >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see the
>>         intended usage.
>>         >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me directly.
>>         >
>>         >     Best regards,
>>         >     Carl Marcum
>>         >
>>
>


Re: logo permission

Posted by Søren Berg Glasius <so...@glasius.dk>.
I have NEVER considered the Groovy logo to look like the communist star. As
a matter of fact, I find the Groovy Star logo easily recognizable, and in
the given case, I like it over the circled G.

Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
Søren Berg Glasius

Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
--- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.


Den ons. 20. maj 2020 kl. 21.47 skrev MG <mg...@arscreat.com>:

> I have added a comment suggesting considering using the Groovy "icon"/Jira
> logo instead of the communist star one (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star) G-)
> Cheers,
> mg
>
> On 20/05/2020 20:00, Carl Marcum wrote:
>
> I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some reason so I'm
>> getting with infra about it.
>>
>> I'll post back the issue when created.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Carl
>>
>> On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
>> > Hi Carl,
>> >
>> > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo that we'd like to
>> > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue and attach a
>> > screenshot.
>> >
>> > Thanks, Paul.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum <cmarcum@apache.org
>> > <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Hello,
>> >
>> >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice extension to add Apache
>> >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>> >
>> >     The extensions require a small thumbnail image that displays in the
>> >     Extension Manager for each installed extension beside the extension
>> >     title and description.
>> >
>> >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this thumbnail if
>> >     possible as
>> >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>> >
>> >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a personal project
>> >     for the
>> >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>> >     extensions.openoffice.org <http://extensions.openoffice.org> site
>> >     under the Apache license.
>> >
>> >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see the intended usage.
>> >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me directly.
>> >
>> >     Best regards,
>> >     Carl Marcum
>> >
>>
>>
>

Re: logo permission

Posted by MG <mg...@arscreat.com>.
I have added a comment suggesting considering using the Groovy 
"icon"/Jira logo instead of the communist star one 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_star) G-)
Cheers,
mg

On 20/05/2020 20:00, Carl Marcum wrote:
> I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum <cmarcum@apache.org 
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Paul,
>
>     Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some reason so I'm
>     getting with infra about it.
>
>     I'll post back the issue when created.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Carl
>
>     On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
>     > Hi Carl,
>     >
>     > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo that we'd
>     like to
>     > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue and attach a
>     > screenshot.
>     >
>     > Thanks, Paul.
>     >
>     >
>     > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum <cmarcum@apache.org
>     <ma...@apache.org>
>     > <mailto:cmarcum@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hello,
>     >
>     >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice extension to
>     add Apache
>     >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>     >
>     >     The extensions require a small thumbnail image that displays
>     in the
>     >     Extension Manager for each installed extension beside the
>     extension
>     >     title and description.
>     >
>     >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this thumbnail if
>     >     possible as
>     >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>     >
>     >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a personal project
>     >     for the
>     >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>     > extensions.openoffice.org <http://extensions.openoffice.org>
>     <http://extensions.openoffice.org> site
>     >     under the Apache license.
>     >
>     >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see the
>     intended usage.
>     >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me directly.
>     >
>     >     Best regards,
>     >     Carl Marcum
>     >
>


Re: logo permission

Posted by Carl Marcum <ca...@gmail.com>.
I have attached the screenshots to this issue [1].
Please let me know if you have any questions.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-9564

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some reason so I'm
> getting with infra about it.
>
> I'll post back the issue when created.
>
> Thanks,
> Carl
>
> On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
> > Hi Carl,
> >
> > This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo that we'd like to
> > support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue and attach a
> > screenshot.
> >
> > Thanks, Paul.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum <cmarcum@apache.org
> > <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hello,
> >
> >     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice extension to add Apache
> >     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
> >
> >     The extensions require a small thumbnail image that displays in the
> >     Extension Manager for each installed extension beside the extension
> >     title and description.
> >
> >     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this thumbnail if
> >     possible as
> >     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
> >
> >     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a personal project
> >     for the
> >     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
> >     extensions.openoffice.org <http://extensions.openoffice.org> site
> >     under the Apache license.
> >
> >     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see the intended usage.
> >     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me directly.
> >
> >     Best regards,
> >     Carl Marcum
> >
>
>

Re: logo permission

Posted by Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org>.
Hi Paul,

Having trouble attaching the image to Jira for some reason so I'm 
getting with infra about it.

I'll post back the issue when created.

Thanks,
Carl

On 5/19/20 10:31 PM, Paul King wrote:
> Hi Carl,
>
> This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo that we'd like to 
> support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue and attach a 
> screenshot.
>
> Thanks, Paul.
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum <cmarcum@apache.org 
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hello,
>
>     I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice extension to add Apache
>     Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>
>     The extensions require a small thumbnail image that displays in the
>     Extension Manager for each installed extension beside the extension
>     title and description.
>
>     I request to use the Groovy star logo for this thumbnail if
>     possible as
>     Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>
>     Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a personal project
>     for the
>     time being and I plan on releasing it through our
>     extensions.openoffice.org <http://extensions.openoffice.org> site
>     under the Apache license.
>
>     I can send a screenshot if you would like to see the intended usage.
>     I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me directly.
>
>     Best regards,
>     Carl Marcum
>


Re: logo permission

Posted by Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au>.
Hi Carl,

This sounds like the kind of use of the Groovy logo that we'd like to
support. Can I ask you to create a Groovy Jira issue and attach a
screenshot.

Thanks, Paul.


On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 AM Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm wrapping up work on an Apache OpenOffice extension to add Apache
> Groovy as a scripting language to OpenOffice.
>
> The extensions require a small thumbnail image that displays in the
> Extension Manager for each installed extension beside the extension
> title and description.
>
> I request to use the Groovy star logo for this thumbnail if possible as
> Groovy is the whole point of the extension.
>
> Although I'm on the AOO PMC this extension is a personal project for the
> time being and I plan on releasing it through our
> extensions.openoffice.org site under the Apache license.
>
> I can send a screenshot if you would like to see the intended usage.
> I'm subscribed to dev@ or feel free to contact me directly.
>
> Best regards,
> Carl Marcum
>
>