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NGCC?
Hi,
Is anyone working on an NGCC event for this year? Given all of the
recent changes, it seems like it could be really useful. If not, is
there interest? When would be good, September? October? What about
location? I think we could get the space to host such an even in
either San Antonio (centrally located), or San Francisco (San
Franciscoly located).
Thoughts?
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Re: NGCC?
Posted by Nate McCall <zz...@gmail.com>.
>
> Mid-to-late September is good, but so is October.
The community-driven Cassandra Japan conference is tentatively
targeting the first week of October. We've had participants from Japan
the past couple of years at NGCC, so would be cool if we could
accommodate that.
+1 on Mid September. (We should probably move this to a vote/form thingy soon).
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Re: NGCC?
Posted by Jonathan Haddad <jo...@jonhaddad.com>.
+1.
Are there guidelines for how to set something like this up or is it tribal
knowledge?
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 3:05 PM Gary Dusbabek <gd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1. I'm happy to help with logistics.
>
> Mid-to-late September is good, but so is October.
>
> Gary.
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Eric Evans <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is anyone working on an NGCC event for this year? Given all of the
> > recent changes, it seems like it could be really useful. If not, is
> > there interest? When would be good, September? October? What about
> > location? I think we could get the space to host such an even in
> > either San Antonio (centrally located), or San Francisco (San
> > Franciscoly located).
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > --
> > Eric Evans
> > john.eric.evans@gmail.com
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
>
Re: NGCC?
Posted by Gary Dusbabek <gd...@gmail.com>.
+1. I'm happy to help with logistics.
Mid-to-late September is good, but so is October.
Gary.
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Eric Evans <jo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is anyone working on an NGCC event for this year? Given all of the
> recent changes, it seems like it could be really useful. If not, is
> there interest? When would be good, September? October? What about
> location? I think we could get the space to host such an even in
> either San Antonio (centrally located), or San Francisco (San
> Franciscoly located).
>
> Thoughts?
>
> --
> Eric Evans
> john.eric.evans@gmail.com
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cassandra.apache.org
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>
Re: NGCC?
Posted by Eric Stevens <mi...@gmail.com>.
Trying to coordinate it around the eclipse seems neat on the surface, but
practically it's probably not a great idea as most major cities along the
eclipse line have largely sold out their hotel rooms for that event.
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:13 PM Carlos Rolo <ro...@pythian.com> wrote:
> I might try to get some internal support for sponsorship if needed.
>
> Would love for a NGCC event to happen.
>
> Regards,
>
> Carlos Juzarte Rolo
> Cassandra Consultant / Datastax Certified Architect / Cassandra MVP
>
> Pythian - Love your data
>
> rolo@pythian | Twitter: @cjrolo | Skype: cjr2k3 | Linkedin:
> *linkedin.com/in/carlosjuzarterolo
> <http://linkedin.com/in/carlosjuzarterolo>*
> Mobile: +351 918 918 100 <+351%20918%20918%20100>
> www.pythian.com
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Ben Bromhead <be...@instaclustr.com> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 at 13:17 Eric Evans <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Ben Bromhead <be...@instaclustr.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > We are more than happy to donate some resources (both people and
> > > materials)
> > > > to putting on NGCC.
> > > >
> > > > I would suggest some sort of committee of folks who are willing to do
> > the
> > > > groundwork and who act as the executive so it gets done :)
> > >
> > > Gary Dusbabek and myself are both willing to shoulder the grunt work
> > > of organizing this.
> > >
> > > Since we're both in San Antonio, that's the location that would be
> > > most practical for us. It's also easy to get to, centrally located,
> > > and the weather should be fantastic that time of year.
> > >
> > > We were thinking we'd put together some options for venue, and propose
> > > some dates, and circle back to the list in search of consensus.
> > >
> > > If this seems reasonable for now, then we'll get back to everyone with
> > > more info in a weeks time.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Eric Evans
> > > john.eric.evans@gmail.com
> > >
> > --
> > Ben Bromhead
> > CTO | Instaclustr <https://www.instaclustr.com/>
> > +1 650 284 9692 <(650)%20284-9692>
> > Managed Cassandra / Spark on AWS, Azure and Softlayer
> >
>
> --
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
Re: NGCC?
Posted by Carlos Rolo <ro...@pythian.com>.
I might try to get some internal support for sponsorship if needed.
Would love for a NGCC event to happen.
Regards,
Carlos Juzarte Rolo
Cassandra Consultant / Datastax Certified Architect / Cassandra MVP
Pythian - Love your data
rolo@pythian | Twitter: @cjrolo | Skype: cjr2k3 | Linkedin:
*linkedin.com/in/carlosjuzarterolo
<http://linkedin.com/in/carlosjuzarterolo>*
Mobile: +351 918 918 100
www.pythian.com
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Ben Bromhead <be...@instaclustr.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 at 13:17 Eric Evans <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Ben Bromhead <be...@instaclustr.com>
> wrote:
> > > We are more than happy to donate some resources (both people and
> > materials)
> > > to putting on NGCC.
> > >
> > > I would suggest some sort of committee of folks who are willing to do
> the
> > > groundwork and who act as the executive so it gets done :)
> >
> > Gary Dusbabek and myself are both willing to shoulder the grunt work
> > of organizing this.
> >
> > Since we're both in San Antonio, that's the location that would be
> > most practical for us. It's also easy to get to, centrally located,
> > and the weather should be fantastic that time of year.
> >
> > We were thinking we'd put together some options for venue, and propose
> > some dates, and circle back to the list in search of consensus.
> >
> > If this seems reasonable for now, then we'll get back to everyone with
> > more info in a weeks time.
> >
> > --
> > Eric Evans
> > john.eric.evans@gmail.com
> >
> --
> Ben Bromhead
> CTO | Instaclustr <https://www.instaclustr.com/>
> +1 650 284 9692
> Managed Cassandra / Spark on AWS, Azure and Softlayer
>
--
--
Re: NGCC?
Posted by Ben Bromhead <be...@instaclustr.com>.
+1
On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 at 13:17 Eric Evans <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Ben Bromhead <be...@instaclustr.com> wrote:
> > We are more than happy to donate some resources (both people and
> materials)
> > to putting on NGCC.
> >
> > I would suggest some sort of committee of folks who are willing to do the
> > groundwork and who act as the executive so it gets done :)
>
> Gary Dusbabek and myself are both willing to shoulder the grunt work
> of organizing this.
>
> Since we're both in San Antonio, that's the location that would be
> most practical for us. It's also easy to get to, centrally located,
> and the weather should be fantastic that time of year.
>
> We were thinking we'd put together some options for venue, and propose
> some dates, and circle back to the list in search of consensus.
>
> If this seems reasonable for now, then we'll get back to everyone with
> more info in a weeks time.
>
> --
> Eric Evans
> john.eric.evans@gmail.com
>
--
Ben Bromhead
CTO | Instaclustr <https://www.instaclustr.com/>
+1 650 284 9692
Managed Cassandra / Spark on AWS, Azure and Softlayer
Re: NGCC?
Posted by Eric Evans <jo...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Ben Bromhead <be...@instaclustr.com> wrote:
> We are more than happy to donate some resources (both people and materials)
> to putting on NGCC.
>
> I would suggest some sort of committee of folks who are willing to do the
> groundwork and who act as the executive so it gets done :)
Gary Dusbabek and myself are both willing to shoulder the grunt work
of organizing this.
Since we're both in San Antonio, that's the location that would be
most practical for us. It's also easy to get to, centrally located,
and the weather should be fantastic that time of year.
We were thinking we'd put together some options for venue, and propose
some dates, and circle back to the list in search of consensus.
If this seems reasonable for now, then we'll get back to everyone with
more info in a weeks time.
--
Eric Evans
john.eric.evans@gmail.com
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Re: NGCC?
Posted by Ben Bromhead <be...@instaclustr.com>.
We are more than happy to donate some resources (both people and materials)
to putting on NGCC.
I would suggest some sort of committee of folks who are willing to do the
groundwork and who act as the executive so it gets done :)
On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 at 11:37 Patrick McFadin <pm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A couple years ago we tried to attach it to an ApacheCon event, but the
> feedback from the ASF was fairly negative on attaching events. I don't
> think making it a part of Apache Big Data would work.
>
> The alternative as an independent event with sponsorship will be really
> hard to coordinate and a potential political minefield.
>
> Tl;DR Cassandra Summit Japan could be an ideal place.
>
> Oh and Russ? You win for most awesome event activity ever.
>
> Patrick
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Eric Evans <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Russell Bradberry <rbradberry@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >> read: developers *of* Cassandra
> > >
> > > Historically it has not only been developers of Cassandra but also
> > specific power users, influencers, and experts. If you want to be
> > successful in deciding the direction of a product, you need more than its
> > developers present. For instance, I am not a Cassandra developer, but I
> > have been invited every year. Same with folks like Peter Bailis, Rick
> > Branson, and others who come in with a wealth of knowledge around varying
> > use cases. Unfortunately, I missed that last two years, but was hoping
> to
> > make it this year.
> >
> > You are right, of course. I was (clumsily) trying to create a
> > distinction between this and a regular user conference.
> >
> > --
> > Eric Evans
> > john.eric.evans@gmail.com
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
>
--
Ben Bromhead
CTO | Instaclustr <https://www.instaclustr.com/>
+1 650 284 9692
Managed Cassandra / Spark on AWS, Azure and Softlayer
Re: NGCC?
Posted by Patrick McFadin <pm...@gmail.com>.
A couple years ago we tried to attach it to an ApacheCon event, but the
feedback from the ASF was fairly negative on attaching events. I don't
think making it a part of Apache Big Data would work.
The alternative as an independent event with sponsorship will be really
hard to coordinate and a potential political minefield.
Tl;DR Cassandra Summit Japan could be an ideal place.
Oh and Russ? You win for most awesome event activity ever.
Patrick
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Eric Evans <jo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Russell Bradberry <rb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> read: developers *of* Cassandra
> >
> > Historically it has not only been developers of Cassandra but also
> specific power users, influencers, and experts. If you want to be
> successful in deciding the direction of a product, you need more than its
> developers present. For instance, I am not a Cassandra developer, but I
> have been invited every year. Same with folks like Peter Bailis, Rick
> Branson, and others who come in with a wealth of knowledge around varying
> use cases. Unfortunately, I missed that last two years, but was hoping to
> make it this year.
>
> You are right, of course. I was (clumsily) trying to create a
> distinction between this and a regular user conference.
>
> --
> Eric Evans
> john.eric.evans@gmail.com
>
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Re: NGCC?
Posted by Eric Evans <jo...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Russell Bradberry <rb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> read: developers *of* Cassandra
>
> Historically it has not only been developers of Cassandra but also specific power users, influencers, and experts. If you want to be successful in deciding the direction of a product, you need more than its developers present. For instance, I am not a Cassandra developer, but I have been invited every year. Same with folks like Peter Bailis, Rick Branson, and others who come in with a wealth of knowledge around varying use cases. Unfortunately, I missed that last two years, but was hoping to make it this year.
You are right, of course. I was (clumsily) trying to create a
distinction between this and a regular user conference.
--
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Re: NGCC?
Posted by Jeff Jirsa <jj...@gmail.com>.
We should do our best to plan around Cassandra Summit Tokyo - NGCC in
September seems like a good idea.
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:09 AM, K.Tomita <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm organizer for Cassandra Summit Tokyo.
> we are Cassandra user's group of Japan.
> We're planning to hold a conference by Tokyo to invite some committers
> at a first week in October.
> I'm preparing in order to announce it while being close.
>
> And I welcome NGCC.
> As far as possible , I'd like to cooperate.
>
>
> ** I hope tomorrow will be a good day **
>
> Tomita Kazutaka
>
> mailto:tomitakazutaka@gmail.com
> blog : http://www.intheforest.jp/blog/
> twitter:http://twitter.com/railute
> ***** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****
>
>
> 2017-06-02 1:02 GMT+09:00 Russell Bradberry <rb...@gmail.com>:
> >> read: developers *of* Cassandra
> >
> > Historically it has not only been developers of Cassandra but also
> specific power users, influencers, and experts. If you want to be
> successful in deciding the direction of a product, you need more than its
> developers present. For instance, I am not a Cassandra developer, but I
> have been invited every year. Same with folks like Peter Bailis, Rick
> Branson, and others who come in with a wealth of knowledge around varying
> use cases. Unfortunately, I missed that last two years, but was hoping to
> make it this year.
> >
> > -Russ
> >
> > On 6/1/17, 11:53 AM, "Eric Evans" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Eric Evans <
> john.eric.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Is anyone working on an NGCC event for this year? Given all of the
> > > recent changes, it seems like it could be really useful. If not, is
> > > there interest? When would be good, September? October? What about
> > > location? I think we could get the space to host such an even in
> > > either San Antonio (centrally located), or San Francisco (San
> > > Franciscoly located).
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> >
> > And to be clear:
> >
> > NGCC == Next Generation Cassandra Conference
> >
> > And conference may or may not be a misnomer here. I think what we're
> > talking about is more of a meeting of Cassandra developers (read:
> > developers *of* Cassandra), to discuss their respective needs /
> plans,
> > and to talk about how that might fit into a project road map.
> >
> > IMO, a successful event would result in ideas and help inform
> > consensus about where the project is going, what is important, and
> who
> > is willing to collaborate on what. I do not see this as a place
> where
> > actual decisions would be made, that wouldn't be inclusive of all the
> > people unable to attend.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > --
> > Eric Evans
> > john.eric.evans@gmail.com
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
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> >
> >
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Re: NGCC?
Posted by Mark Dewey <mi...@gmail.com>.
Blot out the sun and talk about Cassandra? Seems kind of on the nose, right?
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:53 AM Russell Bradberry <rb...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I’m just throwing this out there, mostly because I’m a science nerd, but
> why not August 21st in the viewability range for the Solar eclipse? Here
> is a map showing the best viewing areas.
> http://www.eclipse2017.org/2017/maps.htm (
>
>
> Thanks,
> -Russ
>
>
> On 6/1/17, 2:03 PM, "Jason Brown" <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I kind of agree with Russ, here. However, at the same time, a
> once-a-year,
> in-person meeting that not everyone can physically attend isn't the
> only
> avenue to bring up issues for discussion. All
> influencers/developers/power
> users/whatevers should be encouraged to start discussions on the dev@
> ML,
> at anytime. In addition to being more in the Apache Way, it's
> trackable,
> maintains history, and is publicly open to everyone. Traditionally, we
> as a
> community haven't done so well with dev@ discussions, although I
> think it's
> better than a few years ago and we are improving.
>
> All this being said, I think having an in-person get together of the
> developers (and any others) to help discuss roadmap, new and crazy
> ideas
> wrt implementation, and just generally hang out is good thing. As space
> usually follows budget, if we end up constrained for a NGCC, we may
> need to
> be more (or less) selective than in years past - I don't know how
> that'll
> happen, but perhaps we can find a way with PMC voting or something
> along
> those lines.
>
> I like the idea of a NGCC, but we shouldn't subscribe to it as the only
> medium for discussions of big issues/features/concerns.
>
> -Jason
>
> p.s. Yes, Jira can serve a similar purpose as a dev@ thread, but it's
> usually not a great place to have design discussions of large features
> (I'm
> guilty of this).
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:09 AM, K.Tomita <to...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm organizer for Cassandra Summit Tokyo.
> > we are Cassandra user's group of Japan.
> > We're planning to hold a conference by Tokyo to invite some
> committers
> > at a first week in October.
> > I'm preparing in order to announce it while being close.
> >
> > And I welcome NGCC.
> > As far as possible , I'd like to cooperate.
> >
> >
> > ** I hope tomorrow will be a good day **
> >
> > Tomita Kazutaka
> >
> > mailto:tomitakazutaka@gmail.com
> > blog : http://www.intheforest.jp/blog/
> > twitter:http://twitter.com/railute
> > ***** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****
> >
> >
> > 2017-06-02 1:02 GMT+09:00 Russell Bradberry <rb...@gmail.com>:
> > >> read: developers *of* Cassandra
> > >
> > > Historically it has not only been developers of Cassandra but also
> > specific power users, influencers, and experts. If you want to be
> > successful in deciding the direction of a product, you need more
> than its
> > developers present. For instance, I am not a Cassandra developer,
> but I
> > have been invited every year. Same with folks like Peter Bailis, Rick
> > Branson, and others who come in with a wealth of knowledge around
> varying
> > use cases. Unfortunately, I missed that last two years, but was
> hoping to
> > make it this year.
> > >
> > > -Russ
> > >
> > > On 6/1/17, 11:53 AM, "Eric Evans" <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Eric Evans <
> > john.eric.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Is anyone working on an NGCC event for this year? Given all
> of the
> > > > recent changes, it seems like it could be really useful. If
> not, is
> > > > there interest? When would be good, September? October? What
> about
> > > > location? I think we could get the space to host such an
> even in
> > > > either San Antonio (centrally located), or San Francisco (San
> > > > Franciscoly located).
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > And to be clear:
> > >
> > > NGCC == Next Generation Cassandra Conference
> > >
> > > And conference may or may not be a misnomer here. I think
> what we're
> > > talking about is more of a meeting of Cassandra developers
> (read:
> > > developers *of* Cassandra), to discuss their respective needs /
> > plans,
> > > and to talk about how that might fit into a project road map.
> > >
> > > IMO, a successful event would result in ideas and help inform
> > > consensus about where the project is going, what is important,
> and
> > who
> > > is willing to collaborate on what. I do not see this as a
> place
> > where
> > > actual decisions would be made, that wouldn't be inclusive of
> all the
> > > people unable to attend.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Eric Evans
> > > john.eric.evans@gmail.com
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cassandra.apache.org
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: NGCC?
Posted by Russell Bradberry <rb...@gmail.com>.
I’m just throwing this out there, mostly because I’m a science nerd, but why not August 21st in the viewability range for the Solar eclipse? Here is a map showing the best viewing areas. http://www.eclipse2017.org/2017/maps.htm (
Thanks,
-Russ
On 6/1/17, 2:03 PM, "Jason Brown" <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
I kind of agree with Russ, here. However, at the same time, a once-a-year,
in-person meeting that not everyone can physically attend isn't the only
avenue to bring up issues for discussion. All influencers/developers/power
users/whatevers should be encouraged to start discussions on the dev@ ML,
at anytime. In addition to being more in the Apache Way, it's trackable,
maintains history, and is publicly open to everyone. Traditionally, we as a
community haven't done so well with dev@ discussions, although I think it's
better than a few years ago and we are improving.
All this being said, I think having an in-person get together of the
developers (and any others) to help discuss roadmap, new and crazy ideas
wrt implementation, and just generally hang out is good thing. As space
usually follows budget, if we end up constrained for a NGCC, we may need to
be more (or less) selective than in years past - I don't know how that'll
happen, but perhaps we can find a way with PMC voting or something along
those lines.
I like the idea of a NGCC, but we shouldn't subscribe to it as the only
medium for discussions of big issues/features/concerns.
-Jason
p.s. Yes, Jira can serve a similar purpose as a dev@ thread, but it's
usually not a great place to have design discussions of large features (I'm
guilty of this).
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:09 AM, K.Tomita <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm organizer for Cassandra Summit Tokyo.
> we are Cassandra user's group of Japan.
> We're planning to hold a conference by Tokyo to invite some committers
> at a first week in October.
> I'm preparing in order to announce it while being close.
>
> And I welcome NGCC.
> As far as possible , I'd like to cooperate.
>
>
> ** I hope tomorrow will be a good day **
>
> Tomita Kazutaka
>
> mailto:tomitakazutaka@gmail.com
> blog : http://www.intheforest.jp/blog/
> twitter:http://twitter.com/railute
> ***** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****
>
>
> 2017-06-02 1:02 GMT+09:00 Russell Bradberry <rb...@gmail.com>:
> >> read: developers *of* Cassandra
> >
> > Historically it has not only been developers of Cassandra but also
> specific power users, influencers, and experts. If you want to be
> successful in deciding the direction of a product, you need more than its
> developers present. For instance, I am not a Cassandra developer, but I
> have been invited every year. Same with folks like Peter Bailis, Rick
> Branson, and others who come in with a wealth of knowledge around varying
> use cases. Unfortunately, I missed that last two years, but was hoping to
> make it this year.
> >
> > -Russ
> >
> > On 6/1/17, 11:53 AM, "Eric Evans" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Eric Evans <
> john.eric.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Is anyone working on an NGCC event for this year? Given all of the
> > > recent changes, it seems like it could be really useful. If not, is
> > > there interest? When would be good, September? October? What about
> > > location? I think we could get the space to host such an even in
> > > either San Antonio (centrally located), or San Francisco (San
> > > Franciscoly located).
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> >
> > And to be clear:
> >
> > NGCC == Next Generation Cassandra Conference
> >
> > And conference may or may not be a misnomer here. I think what we're
> > talking about is more of a meeting of Cassandra developers (read:
> > developers *of* Cassandra), to discuss their respective needs /
> plans,
> > and to talk about how that might fit into a project road map.
> >
> > IMO, a successful event would result in ideas and help inform
> > consensus about where the project is going, what is important, and
> who
> > is willing to collaborate on what. I do not see this as a place
> where
> > actual decisions would be made, that wouldn't be inclusive of all the
> > people unable to attend.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > --
> > Eric Evans
> > john.eric.evans@gmail.com
> >
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Re: NGCC?
Posted by Jason Brown <ja...@gmail.com>.
I kind of agree with Russ, here. However, at the same time, a once-a-year,
in-person meeting that not everyone can physically attend isn't the only
avenue to bring up issues for discussion. All influencers/developers/power
users/whatevers should be encouraged to start discussions on the dev@ ML,
at anytime. In addition to being more in the Apache Way, it's trackable,
maintains history, and is publicly open to everyone. Traditionally, we as a
community haven't done so well with dev@ discussions, although I think it's
better than a few years ago and we are improving.
All this being said, I think having an in-person get together of the
developers (and any others) to help discuss roadmap, new and crazy ideas
wrt implementation, and just generally hang out is good thing. As space
usually follows budget, if we end up constrained for a NGCC, we may need to
be more (or less) selective than in years past - I don't know how that'll
happen, but perhaps we can find a way with PMC voting or something along
those lines.
I like the idea of a NGCC, but we shouldn't subscribe to it as the only
medium for discussions of big issues/features/concerns.
-Jason
p.s. Yes, Jira can serve a similar purpose as a dev@ thread, but it's
usually not a great place to have design discussions of large features (I'm
guilty of this).
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:09 AM, K.Tomita <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm organizer for Cassandra Summit Tokyo.
> we are Cassandra user's group of Japan.
> We're planning to hold a conference by Tokyo to invite some committers
> at a first week in October.
> I'm preparing in order to announce it while being close.
>
> And I welcome NGCC.
> As far as possible , I'd like to cooperate.
>
>
> ** I hope tomorrow will be a good day **
>
> Tomita Kazutaka
>
> mailto:tomitakazutaka@gmail.com
> blog : http://www.intheforest.jp/blog/
> twitter:http://twitter.com/railute
> ***** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****
>
>
> 2017-06-02 1:02 GMT+09:00 Russell Bradberry <rb...@gmail.com>:
> >> read: developers *of* Cassandra
> >
> > Historically it has not only been developers of Cassandra but also
> specific power users, influencers, and experts. If you want to be
> successful in deciding the direction of a product, you need more than its
> developers present. For instance, I am not a Cassandra developer, but I
> have been invited every year. Same with folks like Peter Bailis, Rick
> Branson, and others who come in with a wealth of knowledge around varying
> use cases. Unfortunately, I missed that last two years, but was hoping to
> make it this year.
> >
> > -Russ
> >
> > On 6/1/17, 11:53 AM, "Eric Evans" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Eric Evans <
> john.eric.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Is anyone working on an NGCC event for this year? Given all of the
> > > recent changes, it seems like it could be really useful. If not, is
> > > there interest? When would be good, September? October? What about
> > > location? I think we could get the space to host such an even in
> > > either San Antonio (centrally located), or San Francisco (San
> > > Franciscoly located).
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> >
> > And to be clear:
> >
> > NGCC == Next Generation Cassandra Conference
> >
> > And conference may or may not be a misnomer here. I think what we're
> > talking about is more of a meeting of Cassandra developers (read:
> > developers *of* Cassandra), to discuss their respective needs /
> plans,
> > and to talk about how that might fit into a project road map.
> >
> > IMO, a successful event would result in ideas and help inform
> > consensus about where the project is going, what is important, and
> who
> > is willing to collaborate on what. I do not see this as a place
> where
> > actual decisions would be made, that wouldn't be inclusive of all the
> > people unable to attend.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > --
> > Eric Evans
> > john.eric.evans@gmail.com
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
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> >
> >
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Re: NGCC?
Posted by "K.Tomita" <to...@gmail.com>.
I'm organizer for Cassandra Summit Tokyo.
we are Cassandra user's group of Japan.
We're planning to hold a conference by Tokyo to invite some committers
at a first week in October.
I'm preparing in order to announce it while being close.
And I welcome NGCC.
As far as possible , I'd like to cooperate.
** I hope tomorrow will be a good day **
Tomita Kazutaka
mailto:tomitakazutaka@gmail.com
blog : http://www.intheforest.jp/blog/
twitter:http://twitter.com/railute
***** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****
2017-06-02 1:02 GMT+09:00 Russell Bradberry <rb...@gmail.com>:
>> read: developers *of* Cassandra
>
> Historically it has not only been developers of Cassandra but also specific power users, influencers, and experts. If you want to be successful in deciding the direction of a product, you need more than its developers present. For instance, I am not a Cassandra developer, but I have been invited every year. Same with folks like Peter Bailis, Rick Branson, and others who come in with a wealth of knowledge around varying use cases. Unfortunately, I missed that last two years, but was hoping to make it this year.
>
> -Russ
>
> On 6/1/17, 11:53 AM, "Eric Evans" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Eric Evans <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is anyone working on an NGCC event for this year? Given all of the
> > recent changes, it seems like it could be really useful. If not, is
> > there interest? When would be good, September? October? What about
> > location? I think we could get the space to host such an even in
> > either San Antonio (centrally located), or San Francisco (San
> > Franciscoly located).
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> And to be clear:
>
> NGCC == Next Generation Cassandra Conference
>
> And conference may or may not be a misnomer here. I think what we're
> talking about is more of a meeting of Cassandra developers (read:
> developers *of* Cassandra), to discuss their respective needs / plans,
> and to talk about how that might fit into a project road map.
>
> IMO, a successful event would result in ideas and help inform
> consensus about where the project is going, what is important, and who
> is willing to collaborate on what. I do not see this as a place where
> actual decisions would be made, that wouldn't be inclusive of all the
> people unable to attend.
>
> HTH,
>
> --
> Eric Evans
> john.eric.evans@gmail.com
>
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Re: NGCC?
Posted by Russell Bradberry <rb...@gmail.com>.
> read: developers *of* Cassandra
Historically it has not only been developers of Cassandra but also specific power users, influencers, and experts. If you want to be successful in deciding the direction of a product, you need more than its developers present. For instance, I am not a Cassandra developer, but I have been invited every year. Same with folks like Peter Bailis, Rick Branson, and others who come in with a wealth of knowledge around varying use cases. Unfortunately, I missed that last two years, but was hoping to make it this year.
-Russ
On 6/1/17, 11:53 AM, "Eric Evans" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Eric Evans <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is anyone working on an NGCC event for this year? Given all of the
> recent changes, it seems like it could be really useful. If not, is
> there interest? When would be good, September? October? What about
> location? I think we could get the space to host such an even in
> either San Antonio (centrally located), or San Francisco (San
> Franciscoly located).
>
> Thoughts?
And to be clear:
NGCC == Next Generation Cassandra Conference
And conference may or may not be a misnomer here. I think what we're
talking about is more of a meeting of Cassandra developers (read:
developers *of* Cassandra), to discuss their respective needs / plans,
and to talk about how that might fit into a project road map.
IMO, a successful event would result in ideas and help inform
consensus about where the project is going, what is important, and who
is willing to collaborate on what. I do not see this as a place where
actual decisions would be made, that wouldn't be inclusive of all the
people unable to attend.
HTH,
--
Eric Evans
john.eric.evans@gmail.com
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Re: NGCC?
Posted by Eric Evans <jo...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Eric Evans <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is anyone working on an NGCC event for this year? Given all of the
> recent changes, it seems like it could be really useful. If not, is
> there interest? When would be good, September? October? What about
> location? I think we could get the space to host such an even in
> either San Antonio (centrally located), or San Francisco (San
> Franciscoly located).
>
> Thoughts?
And to be clear:
NGCC == Next Generation Cassandra Conference
And conference may or may not be a misnomer here. I think what we're
talking about is more of a meeting of Cassandra developers (read:
developers *of* Cassandra), to discuss their respective needs / plans,
and to talk about how that might fit into a project road map.
IMO, a successful event would result in ideas and help inform
consensus about where the project is going, what is important, and who
is willing to collaborate on what. I do not see this as a place where
actual decisions would be made, that wouldn't be inclusive of all the
people unable to attend.
HTH,
--
Eric Evans
john.eric.evans@gmail.com
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Re: NGCC?
Posted by Nate McCall <zz...@gmail.com>.
I would love for this to happen as well. I don't have time to run
point on setting up an event, but am happy to help out. (I think a lot
of people feel similarly).
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Eric Evans <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is anyone working on an NGCC event for this year? Given all of the
> recent changes, it seems like it could be really useful. If not, is
> there interest? When would be good, September? October? What about
> location? I think we could get the space to host such an even in
> either San Antonio (centrally located), or San Francisco (San
> Franciscoly located).
>
> Thoughts?
>
> --
> Eric Evans
> john.eric.evans@gmail.com
>
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