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Tomcat Master for PHP Hosting?

Does anyone know if there is anything like this already...

What I need (want to do) is turn TC into a Virtual PHP hosting system...

This is the idea... one can layout a html/PHP site in tomcat...
Then point that at distributed servers out there, and use the "remote links" 
in JSP, servlets etc.

And it just happens... ie those "Virtual Sites" are deployed to remote httpd 
servers and it all just works.

Then there could be intelligent processing, like a form submitted to a 
remote PHP site is processed by tomcat... there will be bridges but I havnt 
got that all thought thru yet...

Then the idea is that from the company you run TC... its the brain... but it 
now can take advantage of all the cheap hosting PHP sites out there...

A kind of load sharing system... that can make use of dumbed down hosting 
sites...
And one develops on tomcat as if it was all right there on your machine...

The thing I'm after is making a kinda TC MASTER...

I dont know what others find, but locally if I talk to hosting services and 
mention Tomcat... I get a Oooooh, that will cost more... like its rocket 
science or something...

So I want to put tomcats brain into PHP without giving the brilliant admin 
dude a cranial embolism.

I think intelligence can actually be made very light... and the plebs can do 
the heavy lifting...
So in the end... the home site is the brain... running a whole worker 
population out there.

... Anyway thats the idea... does anyone know if there is anything like this 
already?
... TC as a PHP god... sort of thing.

Thanks 


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Re: Tomcat Master for PHP Hosting?

Posted by Johnny Kewl <jo...@kewlstuff.co.za>.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Chaney" <al...@compulsivecreative.com>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Tomcat Master for PHP Hosting?


> Its called a 'web service'.
>
> Make your tomcat application a web service. Use a php application to 
> invoke it. Distribute the php applications to the php servers.
>
> The php application has a user interface and generates the invocation 
> request (probably as an xml file). Your 'MASTER' does the business logic 
> and generates a reply, either as an xml file which you can use XSLT in php 
> to render or some other form.
>
> If you really wanted to get sophisticated you could write a tomcat 
> application that generated most/all of the php against some specification 
> and style the displayed pages with css.
>
> There are, of course, numerous standards and implementations for web 
> services. You could also make it an AJAX app if you wanted to.
>
> HTH
>
> Alan

Thanks Alan... yes, u right.
Little things like common login and shared sessions and that sort of thing 
would have to be sorted...
But essentially even if we now had a functions like 
php_include_servlet('xyx')
it is at a generic level, a client talking to a server (web service).

Maybe there is something else really brilliant out there as well?
I'm fishing ;)

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Re: Tomcat Master for PHP Hosting?

Posted by Alan Chaney <al...@compulsivecreative.com>.
Its called a 'web service'.

Make your tomcat application a web service. Use a php application to 
invoke it. Distribute the php applications to the php servers.

The php application has a user interface and generates the invocation 
request (probably as an xml file). Your 'MASTER' does the business logic 
and generates a reply, either as an xml file which you can use XSLT in 
php to render or some other form.

If you really wanted to get sophisticated you could write a tomcat 
application that generated most/all of the php against some 
specification and style the displayed pages with css.

There are, of course, numerous standards and implementations for web 
services. You could also make it an AJAX app if you wanted to.

HTH

Alan


Johnny Kewl wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is anything like this already...
> 
> What I need (want to do) is turn TC into a Virtual PHP hosting system...
> 
> This is the idea... one can layout a html/PHP site in tomcat...
> Then point that at distributed servers out there, and use the "remote 
> links" in JSP, servlets etc.
> 
> And it just happens... ie those "Virtual Sites" are deployed to remote 
> httpd servers and it all just works.
> 
> Then there could be intelligent processing, like a form submitted to a 
> remote PHP site is processed by tomcat... there will be bridges but I 
> havnt got that all thought thru yet...
> 
> Then the idea is that from the company you run TC... its the brain... 
> but it now can take advantage of all the cheap hosting PHP sites out 
> there...
> 
> A kind of load sharing system... that can make use of dumbed down 
> hosting sites...
> And one develops on tomcat as if it was all right there on your machine...
> 
> The thing I'm after is making a kinda TC MASTER...
> 
> I dont know what others find, but locally if I talk to hosting services 
> and mention Tomcat... I get a Oooooh, that will cost more... like its 
> rocket science or something...
> 
> So I want to put tomcats brain into PHP without giving the brilliant 
> admin dude a cranial embolism.
> 
> I think intelligence can actually be made very light... and the plebs 
> can do the heavy lifting...
> So in the end... the home site is the brain... running a whole worker 
> population out there.
> 
> ... Anyway thats the idea... does anyone know if there is anything like 
> this already?
> ... TC as a PHP god... sort of thing.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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