trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

[Sahil Tandon <sa...@tandon.net>]

I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags:

[20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended 
that you configure trusted_networks manually

However:

# grep trusted /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
trusted_networks 		69.55.228.210

--lint does not complain, and I know that local.cf is being otherwise 
interpreted by SA because custom rules contained therein are scoring.

-- 
Sahil Tandon <sa...@tandon.net>

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

[Sahil Tandon <sa...@tandon.net>]

Daryl C. W. O'Shea <sp...@dostech.ca> wrote:

> On 21/06/2008 10:45 PM, Sahil Tandon wrote:
> > Daryl C. W. O'Shea <sp...@dostech.ca> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 21/06/2008 1:10 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote:
> >>> I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags:
> >>>
> >>> [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is 
recommended 
> >>> that you configure trusted_networks manually
> >> This is expected and intentional.  Your local cf files are not used to
> >> lint the rulesets.  Your pre files, however, are.
> > 
> > Are trusted_networks generally set in any of the .pre files?  If not, 
then 
> > why bother checking (and complaining about the absence of) 
trusted_networks 
> > if local.cf is not queried by sa-update's lint?
> 
> No, they should be set in a cf file.  You could open a bug in bugzilla
> to request an enhancement to have this debug output avoided.  It's
> really only cosmetic.

Cosmetic perhaps, but misleading for sure.  I'll open a ticket; thanks.

-- 
Sahil Tandon <sa...@tandon.net>

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

["Daryl C. W. O'Shea" <sp...@dostech.ca>]

On 21/06/2008 10:45 PM, Sahil Tandon wrote:
> Daryl C. W. O'Shea <sp...@dostech.ca> wrote:
> 
>> On 21/06/2008 1:10 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote:
>>> I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags:
>>>
>>> [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended 
>>> that you configure trusted_networks manually
>> This is expected and intentional.  Your local cf files are not used to
>> lint the rulesets.  Your pre files, however, are.
> 
> Are trusted_networks generally set in any of the .pre files?  If not, then 
> why bother checking (and complaining about the absence of) trusted_networks 
> if local.cf is not queried by sa-update's lint?

No, they should be set in a cf file.  You could open a bug in bugzilla
to request an enhancement to have this debug output avoided.  It's
really only cosmetic.

http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/

Daryl

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

[Sahil Tandon <sa...@tandon.net>]

Daryl C. W. O'Shea <sp...@dostech.ca> wrote:

> On 21/06/2008 1:10 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote:
> > I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags:
> > 
> > [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended 
> > that you configure trusted_networks manually
> 
> This is expected and intentional.  Your local cf files are not used to
> lint the rulesets.  Your pre files, however, are.

Are trusted_networks generally set in any of the .pre files?  If not, then 
why bother checking (and complaining about the absence of) trusted_networks 
if local.cf is not queried by sa-update's lint?

-- 
Sahil Tandon <sa...@tandon.net>

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

[Benny Pedersen <me...@junc.org>]

On Sat, June 21, 2008 20:05, Jari Fredriksson wrote:

> Should? What good is that lint anyway if it can't be used to test local rules?

spamassassin 2>&1 -D --lint | less

does it confirm ?



Benny Pedersen
Need more webspace ? http://www.servage.net/?coupon=cust37098

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

["Daryl C. W. O'Shea" <sp...@dostech.ca>]

On 21/06/2008 2:05 PM, Jari Fredriksson wrote:
>> On 21/06/2008 1:10 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote:
>>> I see the following when running sa-update with debug
>>> flags: 
>>>
>>> [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured;
>>> it is recommended that you configure trusted_networks
>>> manually 
>> This is expected and intentional.  Your local cf files
>> are not used to lint the rulesets.  Your pre files,
>> however, are. 
>>
>>
>>> However:
>>>
>>> # grep trusted /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
>>> trusted_networks 69.55.228.210
>>>
>>> --lint does not complain, and I know that local.cf is
>>> being otherwise interpreted by SA because custom rules
>>> contained therein are scoring. 
>> Yes, this is also the expected and intentional behaviour.
>> Everything is working as it should.
>>
>> Daryl
> 
> Should? What good is that lint anyway if it can't be used to test local rules?

Yes.  sa-update is specifically designed not to be concerned with your
local rules.  sa-update only cares if the *update* is valid (passes a
lint test).  It ignores your local cf files (since it doesn't care about
them) but uses the pre files so that it can load any plugins that may be
used by the *update* rulesets.

If you want to lint your local rules (in your local cf files) use
"spamassassin --lint" which will all [1] rules that are used by SA on
your system.  The sa-update lint is not meant to be (nor can I see a
reason why you'd want it to be) used to lint test your local rules.

[1] All system wide rules and the current user's per-user rules.

Daryl

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

[Jari Fredriksson <ja...@iki.fi>]

> On 21/06/2008 1:10 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote:
>> I see the following when running sa-update with debug
>> flags: 
>> 
>> [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured;
>> it is recommended that you configure trusted_networks
>> manually 
> 
> This is expected and intentional.  Your local cf files
> are not used to lint the rulesets.  Your pre files,
> however, are. 
> 
> 
>> However:
>> 
>> # grep trusted /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
>> trusted_networks 69.55.228.210
>> 
>> --lint does not complain, and I know that local.cf is
>> being otherwise interpreted by SA because custom rules
>> contained therein are scoring. 
> 
> Yes, this is also the expected and intentional behaviour.
> Everything is working as it should.
> 
> Daryl

Should? What good is that lint anyway if it can't be used to test local rules?

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

["Daryl C. W. O'Shea" <sp...@dostech.ca>]

On 21/06/2008 1:10 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote:
> I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags:
> 
> [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended 
> that you configure trusted_networks manually

This is expected and intentional.  Your local cf files are not used to
lint the rulesets.  Your pre files, however, are.


> However:
> 
> # grep trusted /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
> trusted_networks 		69.55.228.210
> 
> --lint does not complain, and I know that local.cf is being otherwise 
> interpreted by SA because custom rules contained therein are scoring.

Yes, this is also the expected and intentional behaviour.  Everything is
working as it should.

Daryl

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

[mouss <mo...@netoyen.net>]

Nigel Frankcom wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:10:53 -0400, Sahil Tandon <sa...@tandon.net>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags:
>>
>> [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended 
>> that you configure trusted_networks manually
>>
>> However:
>>
>> # grep trusted /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
>> trusted_networks 		69.55.228.210
>>     
>
> I could be very wrong here, it wouldn't be the 1st time; but isn't the
> main local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin/
>   

This is system dependent. Under *BSD, packages are not mixed with the 
base system.

> Per user may work differently, I'm not sure, my version of per user is
> handled by the MTA and a MySQL Database for users (Windows based mail
> server --> CentOS based SA)
>
> Might that be why sa-update is showing the error?
>
>   
>> --lint does not complain, and I know that local.cf is being otherwise 
>> interpreted by SA because custom rules contained therein are scoring.
>>     

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

[Sahil Tandon <sa...@tandon.net>]

Nigel Frankcom <ni...@blue-canoe.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:10:53 -0400, Sahil Tandon <sa...@tandon.net>
> wrote:
> 
> >I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags:
> >
> >[20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended 
> >that you configure trusted_networks manually
> >
> >However:
> >
> ># grep trusted /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
> >trusted_networks 		69.55.228.210
> 
> I could be very wrong here, it wouldn't be the 1st time; but isn't the
> main local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin/

Not in FreeBSD.  And again, I know the local.cf *is* being interpreted 
because its other contents affect SA.

-- 
Sahil Tandon <sa...@tandon.net>

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

[Nigel Frankcom <ni...@blue-canoe.com>]

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:10:53 -0400, Sahil Tandon <sa...@tandon.net>
wrote:

>I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags:
>
>[20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended 
>that you configure trusted_networks manually
>
>However:
>
># grep trusted /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
>trusted_networks 		69.55.228.210

I could be very wrong here, it wouldn't be the 1st time; but isn't the
main local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin/

Per user may work differently, I'm not sure, my version of per user is
handled by the MTA and a MySQL Database for users (Windows based mail
server --> CentOS based SA)

Might that be why sa-update is showing the error?

>
>--lint does not complain, and I know that local.cf is being otherwise 
>interpreted by SA because custom rules contained therein are scoring.